#limit

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robust roost
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F(x) is the floor function.

steep cometBOT
carmine venture
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Doesn’t it approach 0?

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Because no matter what you do, that sin(x) will give you 0

echo hamlet
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You cant just say that because it is of the form $0\cdot -\infty$

rugged caveBOT
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Ryanstaal2006

flat hearth
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yea 0 times inf is undetermined

robust roost
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by graphing the function on Desmos , i can see it is -1 , but i have no idea how to get to this result

flat hearth
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technically floor(1/x) ≈ 1/x

so -sin(x) * floor(1/x) ≈ -sin(x)/x = 1 if x -> 0

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Maybe squeeze theorem works

robust roost
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floor(x) ≈ 1 / x ????

flat hearth
robust roost
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in term of the limit ?

orchid terrace
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consider x is a natural number and resolve it

robust roost
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how would that work?

orchid terrace
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or consider x is a natural number n + a real number between 0 and 1

robust roost
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i don't understand

orchid terrace
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ok i got it

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$\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \sin(x)\left[ x - \lfloor \frac{1}{x} \rfloor \right]=\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}x\sin(x) - \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \sin(x)\lfloor \frac{1}{x} \rfloor=-\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \sin(\frac{1}{x})\left( x - { x } \right)$

robust roost
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what did you use here ?

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a bit more explanation if possible

rugged caveBOT
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tio zuca

orchid terrace
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first I distributed the sinx into the brackets

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then I just separated the limits

robust roost
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there still is a problem to calculate the second limit

orchid terrace
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and then evaluated the xsinx at 0

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the final limit i substituted x to 1/x, so the limit now is infinity

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and the {x} is the fractional part of x, like if x = 3.14 then {x}=0.14

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distribute again and you will have lim {x} sin(1/x) - xsin(1/x)

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the limit xsin(1/x) at x->infinity is the same as 1/x*sin(x) at x-> 0

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sin(x)/x -> 1 as x-> 0

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so is {x}sin(1/x) - 1

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{x} is always between 0 and 1

robust roost
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oh

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i understand

orchid terrace
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if x approaches infinity being natural numbers like 1, 2, 3, 4, ... up to infinity (Like a sequence) {x} is 0 since it don't have a fractional part

robust roost
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that's a completly different approach from mine

orchid terrace
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if x approaches infinity being just fractional numbers like 0.75, 5.32456, etc etc, {x} isnt 0, so you just evaluate sin(1/x) at x-> infty which is 0

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so the answer is -1

robust roost
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thank you for the explanation kind sir

orchid terrace
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i'm sorry if i did some grammar errors, i'm brazilian and i dont speak english very well

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u r welcome

robust roost
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no problem , you speak well

orchid terrace
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thanks

robust roost
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.solved