#Algebra question

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clear roost
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What i need to do and how to sloved this?

safe monolithBOT
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slender veldt
blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

slender veldt
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And since $u\neq 0$ you can multiply the equation by u on both sides, then you get a quadratic equation in terms of u.

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adonhs

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Whats U?

slender veldt
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And then

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What we need to do

slender veldt
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Like I didn't tell

clear roost
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I mean what the answer want?

slender veldt
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You have to calculate the solutions of the equation:

$\ 3e^{2x} - 4e^{-2x} = 5\$

Substitute with $u = e^{2x}$:

$\ 3u - 4u^{-1} = 5\$

$\ \Rightarrow 3u - \frac{4}{u} = 5\$

Multiply by u both sides since $u = e^{2x} \neq 0$

$\ \Rightarrow 3u^2 - 4 = 5u\$

$\ \Rightarrow 3u^2 -5u - 4 = 0\$

Resubstitute back after you got the solutions.

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adonhs

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Ok i has been get it

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What the answer

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I try to check my answer

slender veldt
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Wait hold on

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I got wrong

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Is that possible to factoring that?

clear roost
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i got the answer is

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5 plus minus sqrt -23/6

slender veldt
# clear roost 5 plus minus sqrt -23/6

Kinda now resubstitute and solve for x:

$\e^{2x} = u_1 = \frac{5+\sqrt{73}}{6}\$

Notice that $u_2 = \frac{5-\sqrt{73}}{6} < 0\$

So that is not a solution.

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adonhs

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wait

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my answer is sqrt -23

slender veldt
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This cant be

clear roost
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hmm ok

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so is cant be use a quadratic formula??

slender veldt
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You can

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You just probably did a miscalculation

clear roost
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oh

slender veldt
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That can happen

clear roost
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ok let me check

slender veldt
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$3u^2 -5u -4 = 0\$

$\ \Rightarrow u_{1,2} = \frac{-(-5) \pm \sqrt{(-5)^2 - 4\cdot 3 \cdot (-4)}}{2\cdot 3}\$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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yeah thats right

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same as me

slender veldt
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As you can see there is no negative value under the square root

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minus times minus is positive

clear roost
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ohh

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i see

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i wrong about this

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it will be 25 + 48 right?

slender veldt
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no worries happens

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Yes

clear roost
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damn im not in focus

slender veldt
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then take a rest lol

clear roost
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after this haha

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ok i has been get it 5 plus minus sqrt 73/6

slender veldt
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yea and we only have to consider the plus case

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because the minus case gives us a negative value

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and we know that the exponential function is always positive in this case

slender veldt
clear roost
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cuz some question have like x1=3 ,x2=-5

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but in this case must be +

slender veldt
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because exponential function has positive values only

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$\ e^{2x} > 0 \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

slender veldt
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So there is no x for a negative value

clear roost
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what is R

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e^2x > 0 forr all x is an element of R

slender veldt
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Yes

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R is real numbers

clear roost
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ohh ok

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hmm

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bro what must im doing

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Do I have to break this root form

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llike simplification

slender veldt
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Resubstitute and solve for x:

$\e^{2x} = u_1 = \frac{5+\sqrt{73}}{6}\$

Notice that $u_2 = \frac{5-\sqrt{73}}{6} < 0\$

So that is not a solution since $e^{2x} > 0 \quad \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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Ok if (u) is : e^2x

It will be

e^2x = 5+โˆš73/6
&
e^2x = 5-โˆš73/6

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But how to solve X

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Its will be like

e^x = 5ยฑ73/6

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Bro im stuck at there

slender veldt
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$ln(e^{2x}) = 2x \cdot ln(e) = 2x$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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And then you almost already solved it

clear roost
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What is ln

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Oh integral?

slender veldt
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inverse function of e^x

slender veldt
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you dont know ln(x) and e^x

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?

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logarithms

clear roost
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Ohhh i know that

slender veldt
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$ln(x) = log_{e}x$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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Yess

slender veldt
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You should know that they cancel out

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$ln(e^x) = log_{e}e^x = e^{ln(x)} = x$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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I hope you check it

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ankara messi

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๐Ÿคฃ

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I didnt get it bro

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Btw i get this question from A level test Cambridge

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๐Ÿ˜‚

slender veldt
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I didnt know about this logarithm
I just know about characteristic of logarithm

slender veldt
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Suppose f(x) and its inverse function $f^{-1}(x)$.

Then it follows:

$\f^{-1}(f(x)) = x = f(f^{-1}(x))$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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This is a charaterisric for all functions with their inverse

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Example:

$\sin(arcsin(x)) = x\$

$\cos(arccos(x)) = x\$

$\ln(e^x) = x\$

blazing wolfBOT
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adonhs

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Damn i didnt learn that, i will learn more of this

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Thanks bro i apreciated that, i will solved this by learn more one days

slender veldt
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Yeah watch a video about this as it makes it solving equations easier

slender veldt
regal hearth
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just ln the entire equation

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put ln next to all those numbers