#Prove sameness

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kind garnet
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(x²-x+1)2- (x + 1)³ + 3(x − 1)(x² + x + 1) = x(x³-5) -3

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kind garnet
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Help?

stuck holly
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Expand both sides.

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@kind garnet

kind garnet
stuck holly
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Are they equal?

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@kind garnet

kind garnet
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I don't know, it has to be solved

stuck holly
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Did you expand both sides?

kind garnet
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Yes

stuck holly
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What were your results for that?

kind garnet
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Can you solve it?

kind garnet
stuck holly
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Yes.

kind garnet
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(x²-x+1)²-(x+1)³+3(x³-1)=x⁴-5x-3

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Is that correct

stuck holly
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That's correct for the right side.

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What about the left side?

kind garnet
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x⁴-5x-3

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I can go this far if you can solve it further

stuck holly
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Is that what you got from the left side?

kind garnet
stuck holly
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OK, so expand the left side.

kind garnet
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I can't, I don't know how

stuck holly
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OK, expand (x^2 - x + 1)^2.

kind garnet
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Can you give me a solution, I will look at it and understand it

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Because it's a little hard for me like that

stuck holly
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The solution is that you expand both sides, then simplify, then see that they're equal.

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In order to expand the left side, you just expand the parts of it.

kind garnet
stuck holly
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That is a proof that they're equal.

kind garnet
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Can you just solve it for me?

stuck holly
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No, we can only help you to know how to do it.

kind garnet
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ok

stuck holly
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The way you prove that two things are equal is to do correct algebra steps to get them to look equal.

kind garnet
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I do not know how

stuck holly
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You have (x² - x + 1)² - (x + 1)³ + 3(x − 1)(x² + x + 1).

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So, break it into three parts.

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Part 1 is (x² - x + 1)². Part 2 is (x + 1)³. Part 3 is (x − 1)(x² + x + 1).

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Can you expand those three parts separately?

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Like, what is (x² - x + 1)² after you expand it?

kind garnet
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Well, I can't just thank you

stuck holly
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OK, so here's how you do that.

kind garnet
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for taking the time

stuck holly
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Squaring something means to multiply it by itself.

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So, you have (x² - x + 1)², and that can be turned into (x² - x + 1)(x² - x + 1).

kind garnet
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Yes

stuck holly
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Then, you do this: x²(x² - x + 1) - x(x² - x + 1) + 1(x² - x + 1).

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Notice how I took the three terms on the left and multiplied them by the right.

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Like we had x² - x + 1. The three parts are x², -x, and 1.

kind garnet
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👍

stuck holly
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And then I wrote each of those parts from the left factor in front of the right factor.

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To see it a bit clearer.

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(a + b + c)(d + e + f) = a(d + e + f) + b(d + e + f) + c(d + e + f).

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Does it make sense how that works?

kind garnet
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Yes

stuck holly
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OK, so do that with (x² - x + 1)². First notice that squaring means multiplying a number by itself and write it as (x² - x + 1)(x² - x + 1). Then do that trick I just showed you. Then use the distributive property.

kind garnet
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Yes after that?

stuck holly
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Oh, just do it up to there. Let's see what you get.

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Then, we can do the same sort of thing for part 2 and part 3.

kind garnet
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That's enough for me thanks

stuck holly
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OK.

kind garnet
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I'll try to solve it later, if I can't do something, I'll write to you

stuck holly
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OK, you can also ping @Helpers 15 minutes after you ask.

kind garnet
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OK

kind garnet
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@stuck holly

stuck holly
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For when you get back, first do:

(x² - x + 1)²
( - x + 1)(x² - x + 1)
(x² - x + 1) - x(x² - x + 1) + 1(x² - x + 1)
(x²x² - x²x + x²) - (xx² - xx + x1) + (1x² - 1x + 1*1)

Then you simplify everything.

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For the (x + 1)³ part, you do this:

(x + 1)³
(x + 1)(x + 1)(x + 1)

Parenthesize the first two to do them first:

[(x + 1)(x + 1)](x + 1)
[x(x + 1) + 1(x + 1)](x + 1)
[xx + x1 + 1x + 1 * 1](x + 1)

Then simplify the part in the square brackets. Then do the same thing, multiply each term in the simplified square brackets by the (x + 1), then simplify.

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For the 3(x − 1)(x² + x + 1) part, parenthesize the first two:

3(x − 1)(x² + x + 1)
[3(x − 1)](x² + x + 1)

Distribute:

[3x - 3*1](x² + x + 1)

Then, simplify that and do the same sort of thing.

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Then, you take the simplified first part, subtract the simplified second part from it, and add the simplified third part. Then simplify.

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It's just one small technique done a lot of times.

stuck holly
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If you don't get that, show your work and ask for help on where you went wrong.

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Once you get x⁴ - 5x - 3 on both sides of the equal sign, it's proven because when you do algebra steps the right way to two things and they end up the same, that means they have to be equal.