#I need help with part b

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hollow sail
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I need help with part B

plush fableBOT
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I need help with part b

stuck salmon
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Hi @hollow sail , What does L mean in this context? Speed of light?

hollow sail
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I have already found part a

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v(t) = 4.9e^-t/2

stuck salmon
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Alright, to determine the smallest possible value of L we need to find the maximum value of v(t):

lim x -> inf v(t)

hollow sail
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So we need to find the max value of v(t)

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I am allowed to use the calculator for this question from my teacher

stuck salmon
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I see that you have a small mistake in your velocity v(t). When integrating, we still get an integration constant:

v(t) = 19.6e^-t/2 + C

You can determine this by the boundary condition that the object starts falling at t=0 and therefore has no velocity yet:

v(t = 0) = 19.6e^-t/2 + C = 0
C = -19.6

Now you can calculate the limit. Consider what happens to e^-t/2 when t becomes very large

update: corrected the mistake

hollow sail
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Oh I realized my mistake, let me fix the problem for part a

hollow sail
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v(t)=19.6e^t/2 + C

stuck salmon
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dont forget the minus in e^-t/2

hollow sail
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ok

stuck salmon
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now you can find C by the boundary condition: v(t=0) = 0. So C is -19.6 m/s

hollow sail
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So that is that answer

stuck salmon
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No, for the answer, you still need to calculate the limit of v(t) as t approaches infinity. This will give you the maximum velocity. So far, we have only done task a

hollow sail
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oh

hollow sail
stuck salmon
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In the problem, t is the time the object is falling. We release it at t = 0, at which point the object initially has no velocity since it first accelerates downwards. Therefore v(t=0) = 0

hollow sail
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So how to solve part b

stuck salmon
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wel..

hollow sail
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well

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$lim{t \to \infty} v(t) = lim{t \to \infty} 19.6e^{-\frac{t}{2}} - 19.6 $

stuck salmon
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we need to calc

lim(t -> infinity) v(t)

lim(t -> infinity) 19.6e^-t/2 - 19.6

we can seperate it

lim(t -> infinity) 19.6e^-t/2 - lim(t -> infinity) 19.6

for t -> infinity we have in general

e^-t -> 0

therefore

lim(t -> infinity) 19.6e^-t/2 = 0

that means:

lim(t -> infinity) v(t) = 19.6 m/s

hollow sail
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So what is the answer?

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I have never used infinity before

stuck salmon
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L = 19.6 m/s

hollow sail
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Thank you

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for helping me

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IS there a another why to slove this not using infinity

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?

stuck salmon
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Oh okay, good to know. Then here's another possible solution:

We are looking for the maximum value of v(t) consists of two terms, where the first one has an e^-t/2 factor and the second one is a constant number. As t becomes larger and larger, the e^-t/2 factor becomes smaller and smaller, making the entire first term diminish until it eventually disappears. However, the second term remains constant throughout

hollow sail
stuck salmon
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Since the second term is not dependent on t and always remains 19.6, regardless of how large or small t is

hollow sail
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Ok so the answer is 19.6 m/s

stuck salmon
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👍 yes

hollow sail
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ok thank you for your help.

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