The Unsolvable (2) 3x+1

[sand bolt]

Do you think a bunch of people on Discord would be able to solve the collatz conjecture because you asked them to

[lapis karma]

No? I didn't ask anyone to. This is just the place to try and solve it. The way you laughed just made you look dumb.

[unborn halo]

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I wish I could solve insanely difficult mathematical problems just by insulting them.

[devout oyster]

politicians lore

[unborn halo]

xD
I swear what all some of them do is shout.

[lapis karma]

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[nimble yacht]

I found an error in the conjecture!!! If you start with zero it just loops at zero! (This is a joke.)

[lapis karma]

That makes kind of sense though, don't you think?

[devout oyster]

yeha yeanh

[nimble yacht]

The thing is that this kind of conjecture doesn’t have like any applications… The only interesting thing about it is that no one can prove it.

[lapis karma]

I will

[sand bolt]

I am at ease with looking dumb

[lapis karma]

You are.

[sand bolt]

Now if you want to be taken more seriously, maybe provide more precisions into what you are investigating

[sand bolt]

Oh but it does signal that our mathematics are not yet advanced enough in some regard

[sand bolt]

Seems like insulting me didn't get people to take you that much more seriously

Maybe you need to come down a little bit and learn some manners (then you can try to do some maths after)

[solemn salmon]

I mean it’s good to be ambitious, but it’s incredibly unlikely you alone will prove the conjecture

[lapis karma]

Well you laughed at me which I found insulting and now you're saying I need manners?

[solemn salmon]

How exactly does laughing make someone look dumb i don’t get it

[sand bolt]

I didn't laugh "at you"..?
And you probably will not prove the collatz conjecture

Unfortunately the world does not revolve around you specifically 😦

[lapis karma]

I am serious and he laughed at me and said that I "asked them" which I didn't. He laughed and got it wrong.

[lapis karma]

I never implied that and never thought of that.

[devout oyster]

I have a proof, but it is too long to fit in the margin

[lapis karma]

What is the proof about?

[solemn salmon]

I mean, there really is no point in creating a thread here, since it’s incredibly unlikely anybody here has to ability to actually prove the conjecture

[devout oyster]

proceeds to die

[zinc walrus]

I do but i dont feel like proving it

[solemn salmon]

If anything, the ones who are actually going to make any substantial progress are likely in conference rooms and specialized seminars

[zinc walrus]

goodbye

[lapis karma]

Some people here like Math. While solving something, they also find it fun.

[solemn salmon]

Yeah, but why do you think that they would be able to prove such an infamous conjecture?

[lapis karma]

And if they are able to, they could win something.

[devout oyster]

look if anyone here proves it then this server is golden

[zinc walrus]

fine gimme couple hours

ill be back

[lapis karma]

Because they are advance and like something which gives them the urge to do something about a topic.

[nimble yacht]

Well I have been thinking about it and have got a little progress.

[devout oyster]

news titled "discord users solving infamous mathematical problem haunting for decades" would be all over the world

[lapis karma]

LMAO

[solemn salmon]

Virtually none of us are that advanced man

Collatz is prob not a simple conjecture that can be proven with elementary methods

[devout oyster]

and the stocks of discord would be higher than Microsoft

[lapis karma]

Yeah not with elementary methods but can be with college topics.

[nimble yacht]

Discord is publicly traded?

[lapis karma]

Like calculus or something could do it.

[devout oyster]

just for the meme

[final light]

@lapis karma You could try building on Terence Tao's progress

https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.03562

[devout oyster]

I'm economically brainless

[solemn salmon]

Not a chance lmao

If it was that easy it’d be done already

[lapis karma]

Then it is "something"

If you saw it 💀

[solemn salmon]

What is “something” lmao

If it’s a method not discovered until 100 years from now then it doesn’t matter

[lapis karma]

That's what mathematicians are trying to solve.

[solemn salmon]

If you actually want to contribute, I’d suggest reading the literature surrounding collatz as well as the most recent progress made

[nimble yacht]

It would probably be more like number theoretic methods like modular stuff. Calculus is “usually” not related to whole numbers or if it is, there are already better ways to think of the whole numbers.

Try reading a number theory book and if you still think you are the next Euler/Andrew Wiles, then keep trying.

[lapis karma]

There's probably another topic of Math that we didn't discover yet.

[solemn salmon]

Ofc there are lol

I don’t mean to insult you, but you’re coming off a bit naive

[lapis karma]

Imagine if we discover a specific topic that solves Collatz Conjecture and also probably solves parallel universe or something lmao.

[devout oyster]

coming to think of it, human civilizations have only been there for 4000 years, yet had so much progress, which is aamzing

[nimble yacht]

Like Gaussian Prime numbers? 🤔

[jagged bridge]

yeah we need to solve the parallel universes this is a pressing problem in mathematical research

[nimble yacht]

Dude has been watching too much Rick and Morty.

[jagged bridge]

it's right up there with the divide by zero problem

[solemn salmon]

There’s literally no correlation between the two lol

[jagged bridge]

not sure what i'll be working on today... goldbachs conjecture or solving how to divide by zero

[lapis karma]

Probably have

I'll be back.

[jagged bridge]

are you at all familiar with sacred geometry

[solemn salmon]

Unless you have good reason to believe so, it’s not likely

[nimble yacht]

Again, I would start by try to read and understand a number theory book.

It can help you to see if you have any potential.

[solemn salmon]

^^

[nimble yacht]

And even if you do have potential, it is a very hard problem, so don’t assume it can be solved by yourself.

[devout oyster]

this is gonna become the second https://discord.com/channels/268882317391429632/1152223186247749744

[lapis karma]

It's just probably, we do not know yet so clearly I did not "believe so".

[jagged bridge]

why not focus on problems that are more your level

and not problems that are like impossible

[unborn halo]

if someone could prove it, they wouldn't share it on Discord before getting it peer reviewed and published first

[lapis karma]

I know we can't technically solve it but getting more informations about it could help

[unborn halo]

So you need help finding information on this?

[lapis karma]

Not just me.

[unborn halo]

Asking for a friend too?

[lapis karma]

It's for everyone.

[unborn halo]

Ah, a discussion? Seems a bit like the wrong channel, but whatever.

[lapis karma]

Hm.

[lapis karma]

.close

[zenith sandal]

Solved

Post marked as solved by @sturdy mantle.

Use .unsolved if this was a mistake.

[deep cedar]

There’s something so ironic about marking a post about Collatz Conjecture as solved

[devout oyster]

discord users made it

[lapis karma]

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[lapis karma]

It's so ironic that you're laughing because you think I want the answers of the conjecture even though this is just a channel to get more details about it and discuss it. Made you look so dumb.

[deep cedar]

Ouch, didn’t know you can’t take a joke

You seem really fun

[unborn halo]

Everyone...
relax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Last_Word

[lapis karma]

Aren't jokes supposed to be funny and not laughing at something serious?

[deep cedar]

Please explain to me what you find so serious about tagging a post called “The Unsolvable (2) 3x+1” as solved. No idea why you are so upset over a lighthearted joke with absolutely nobody being laughed at

[zinc walrus]

alex seems like he has no fun in his life

ever!

its okay guys

https://tenor.com/view/just-be-kind-kindnses-kindness-quotes-rules-dophin-gif-25541906

everyone should be happy and loved

[lapis karma]

I closed the post that's why it says "solved"

[unborn halo]

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