#does this work

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hard loom
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I'm trying to prove that every odd int is the diff of 2 squares

feral sunBOT
sturdy ember
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wait the calculation is incorrect, what happened from the first to the second line?

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also 3≠√7

hard loom
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Thanks for catching that

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But it the idea sound

sturdy ember
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and I think you meant difference of 2 squares of integers

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right?

hard loom
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Yea where k is a positive int

sturdy ember
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oh sorry didn't see

hard loom
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It's all good I didn't see my mistake in line 2

sturdy ember
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wait what

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k^2-k^2

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that's obviously 0 right

hard loom
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I mean I never said k had to be the same number

sturdy ember
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yeah lemme quickly find a proof

limber turtle
sturdy ember
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huh?

limber turtle
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k has to be the same number

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hence why you use the same letter

hard loom
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I see

limber turtle
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if it is a different number, then you should use a different letter

sturdy ember
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do people throw their brain away when they get into uni or smt

hard loom
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Ight sorry this is my first proof class

hard loom
limber turtle
sturdy ember
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no worries

hard loom
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So something more like a^2 - b^2 = k+1

sturdy ember
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yep

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actually contradiction might be easier

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lemme get some scrap paper

hard loom
sturdy ember
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uh if that's what you prefer

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but contradiction is chad

hard loom
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But that's not the assignment

sturdy ember
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on second thought

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direct is easier

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yep yeah

hard loom
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I worked it out to being a = sqrt(b^2 +k+1

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Does that work as a end proof

sturdy ember
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if you can discuss how "a" is an integer, yes

sturdy ember
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(and if you didn't make any mistakes in calculation)

hard loom
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Hanging on

sturdy ember
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how does that show "a" is integer

limber turtle
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You have put k+1 as the formula of an odd integer.

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What if k is 1?

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That gives you 2.

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Which is even.

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2k+1 fits better assuming that k is an integer.

sturdy ember
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(man I remember I proved this before and showed it to another person 💀 )

hard loom
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Does that change much in my current proof?

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Besides adding the 2

limber turtle
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i will work it out

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on a piece of paper

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give me a sec

hard loom
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Ight

limber turtle
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i think you need to prove by exhaustion

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"every odd integer equal to the difference of two squares"

hard loom
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But there's a non finite amount of options in the domain

limber turtle
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you need to consider different circumstances

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split the calculation into different cases

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or perhaps assume that there is an even integer equal to the difference of two squares

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that would be contradiction

hard loom
limber turtle
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let me have a look

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you could do

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2k+1 = (a-b)(a+b) and then

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try different situations where a = 2k+1 and b = 2k+1 or a = 2k and b = 2k+1

hard loom
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Is this still solving by contradiction?

limber turtle
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that is exhaustion

hard loom
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Oh sorry

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So when working out the first case does that ones line end at 2k+1 = a^2 - b^2 or does it end at 2k+1 + b^2 = a^2

sturdy ember
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honestly contradiction is easier, I recall that's the way I did

hard loom
sturdy ember
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uh so I got ((a+b)(a-b)-1)/2=k

hard loom
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Oh it's being used to find the value of k

sturdy ember
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so just try proving (a+b)(a-b) can result to all odd numbers

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my brain is having monday sickness

hard loom
sturdy ember
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monday left me broken~

hard loom
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Mhm Monday destroyer of energy, bane of the living

hard loom
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!close

brisk cloak
hard loom
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Thanks

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