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gray skyBOT
west reef
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you can use integrals for this if you know how

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you have to find the equation for the half circle with radius 12.2 and intersections with the x axis at (5.2,0) and (-5.2,0)

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and the parabola with a vertex on the y axis at y=4.89, and the same x intercepts as the circle

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and then integrate with respect to x from -5.2 to 5.2

compact girder
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i know half circle is

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piR^2/2

west reef
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the equation for a circle is x^2 + y^2 = r^2

so in this case x^2 + y^2 = (12.2)^2

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from there you have to rearrange the equation so that it's y = f(x) and then translate the graph down such that it intersects the x axis at the given points

compact girder
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so i have to bring it down by 12.2

west reef
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to find the translation down needed for the correct x intercepts plug in x = 5.2 and subtract the resulting y output

compact girder
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into sqrt of 12.2^2-(5.2)^2

west reef
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yes

compact girder
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i got 121.8

west reef
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I think you just didn't square root it

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you got the square of the correct value

compact girder
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thats right

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so i drop it by 11.03630

west reef
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yes

compact girder
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i see now i gotta take the integral between them

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?

west reef
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yeah so the integral of the top curve minus the bottom curve

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from -5.2 to 5.2

compact girder
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one sec lemme work that out

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so the distance from the x-axis to the top of the circle is the 11.036?

compact girder
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so the distance from the x-axis from the top of the circle

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would be 11.036

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or?

west reef
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no

west reef
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the distance to the top of the circle from the x axis in the original form (in the message I responded to) is the radius of the circle 12.2 but in the original figure we see that the parabola and circle intersect twice 10.4 units apart from one another so to make the calculation easier we're just making that the distance between where the 2 graphs intersect the x axis

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so when we subtracted the f(5.2) value for the translation down the goal was to bring the graph down so that it intersects with the x axis AT -5.2 and 5.2

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and then the parabola should intercept at those points as well

compact girder
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does it change anything if the dotted line is the y axis

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i just have no clue how its 1.23 on this one

west reef
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no that's actually what we've been doing so far

compact girder
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so how did they get the 1.23 out of this?

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is our like 5.2?

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@west reef

west reef
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I see that your problem has changed a bit so I'll show you this

compact girder
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wheres the distance from top of circle on this?

west reef
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the integral for this is:

west reef
compact girder
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so that finds me the area?

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if i take the integral from -5.2 to 5.2

west reef
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yeah

compact girder
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where you get 5.2?

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and 27.04

compact girder
west reef
compact girder
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and 27.04

compact girder
west reef
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that was the original value of f(0) for (x+5.2)(x-5.2) and I used it to solve for the correct coefficient for the parabola

compact girder
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so what would be the equation for just the cirlce??

gray skyBOT
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west reef
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lemme walk you through how to find each of the graphs.

for the circle you start with x^2 + y^2 = r^2
and then you convert it into a function of x like y = sqrt(r^2 - x^2)
then you figure out how much to translate it down by so that it intersects the x axis at the correct points. in the example we did earlier the total width from one bottom point to another was 10.4 ft which meant that each one of those points was 5.2 feet away from the y axis. so to get the amount that you subtract it by to translate it down to the correct level you have to plug in the x intercept value you want into the original equation and subtract by that much because you're moving the graph down by that exact amount so that it's zero at those points.

for the parabola you take the 2 x intercepts and you make a factorized polynomial in the previous case it was -(x+5.2)(x-5.2) because that way when x is 5.2 or -5.2 the value of the equation is 0, but that wasn't the actual equation for the graph because we needed the vertex of the parabola to be at y = 4.89 (at x = 0) so in order to get the value that we have to multiply the polynomial by we first set it to some unknown value a. we then have an equation that looks like this -a(0+5.2)(0-5.2) = 4.89 and you can use that to get "a" which was 4.89/27.04.

compact girder
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