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sleek wyvern
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Can someone give me equations like 5a=3b-1 or somethinganf i try to solve it

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sleek wyvern
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Yes

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Would the answer be 5?

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For that example

pine iron
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\begin{enumerate}
\item $5x=3x-2$
\item $2x=5x+3$
\item $69x=420x-96$
\item $8x=3x+8$
\item $7x+5=4x+3$
\item $4x-2=10x+4$
\item $ax=5x+3$
\item Find a number $x$ such that number plus it's double equal to that number plus 4.
\item $ax=4-2x$
\end{enumerate}

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Like that?

sleek wyvern
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Number 3 and 5 look too advanced for me

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Lol

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Im going to try number 1

pine iron
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I added a few more

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They're challenge ones (7-9)

sleek wyvern
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Which one do you recommend me to do

pine iron
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well all of them but which do you have issues with?

sleek wyvern
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And I woud like to add that im not in any course about number theory and stuff like that i just like learning more

pine iron
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do you want me to get rid of the fractions?

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sleek wyvern
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So you want me to solve for x or a in number i

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pine iron
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treating all other variables (a) as constants (1, 2, 3, 4, etc...)

sleek wyvern
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Yeah 8 is kind of hard but I got x=4 not sure if its right though

pine iron
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nope

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So take look: "Find a number x such that number plus its double"

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so x+2x

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"is equal to that number plus 4"

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so =x+4

sleek wyvern
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Instead of these can you give me simple diophantine equations

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Like maybe something like x+2y=3 or something

pine iron
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alright

sleek wyvern
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You dont have to give me a list give me one one by one

pine iron
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very well

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I realize with diophantine equations, you may want integer solutions 😅

sleek wyvern
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To me it doesnt really matter if itd an integer or not as long as the equations true

pine iron
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smthn like $3x+4y=5$?

sleek wyvern
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Im just trying to test myself

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sleek wyvern
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Did I already do this one?

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Im going to try to solve it eitherway

pine iron
sleek wyvern
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I couldnt solve this one unfortunately.

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If I remember you would use either a formula or the euclidean algorithm

pine iron
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Ok so, for LDE we have to convert to an HLDE

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We have to find the gcf of both coefficients

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gcf(3,4)=1 which is divisible by 4 (obviously)

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so we're all good to proceed

sleek wyvern
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Is the answer for x=-5/7 and y=5/7?

pine iron
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but generally LDE require solutions over the integers

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so now we find a case where the equation works

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which is $x=-1$ and $y=2$, we get $3(-1)+4(2)=-3+8=$\fbox{5}

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pine iron
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Ok so now we let values $u=x+1$ and $v=y-2$

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pine iron
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then we get $3u+4v=3(x+1)+4(y-2)$ do you understand how I got this?

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sleek wyvern
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No i dont understand

pine iron
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question, what math class are you in?

sleek wyvern
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Like I said im not experienced. Im in precalc but ive been seeing videos on diophantine equations and understand a little

pine iron
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ah ok so this is an independent study, good learning math is great, so what part are you not getting?

sleek wyvern
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Ok so I get the gcf part but dont understand how you got x=-1 and y=-2

pine iron
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it's just one solution

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to the equation $3x+4y=5$

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pine iron
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there are infinitely many it's just best to chose one with the littlest numbers possible

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to make your life easier

sleek wyvern
pine iron
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How did you do it?

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oh well that has only one variable

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3x+4y=5 has two

sleek wyvern
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Ok so you know how an even integer is 2k and odd integer is 2k+1

pine iron
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mhm

sleek wyvern
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So what i did was substitute the values in corresponding to the coefficents so it would be 4(2k)-3(2k+1)=-5 and solve for k

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Because 4 is even and 3 is odd

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And then once you solved for k you plug it back in

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So x=2k and y=2k+1

pine iron
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There are few issues: in the equation: $4x=3x-5$ you are giving the variable $x$ two different forms.\~\

Also you are assuming that $2k$ and $2k-1$ are going to produce two different results when it's just going to produce the $k$th even and odd number, 7 and 8 or 9 and 10

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pine iron
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Ok, wait hang on

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your trying to solve for y in an equations with only x's?

sleek wyvern
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No you solve for k and whatever number you get plug it back in to the substitution

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If you want i can show you with a picture in my whiteboard

pine iron
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ok?

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@sleek wyvern ?

sleek wyvern
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I know the picture is aligned weird my bad

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Im just experimenting with things for the fun of it

pine iron
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also maybe put the original equation as 4x-3y=5 instead of 4x-3x=5

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but I think what you're doing is just finding one solution of the original diophantine equation

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I haven't seen such a method before but hey there very well could be

sleek wyvern
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Sorry for wasting your time i just wanted to see if my method works

pine iron
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I am letting $2m$ and $2m+1$ be coefficients of a diophantine equation and $c$ the constant on the end.\~\

$(2m)(2k+1)+(2m+1)(2k)=c$\
$4km+2m+4km+2k=c$\
$8km+2m+2k=c$\~\

Huh, tbh idk what to do with that, but that's pretty cool, it might be a way of generating a solution

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sleek wyvern
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This might be too advanced for me but i wouldnt mind doing basic calculus problems

pine iron
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$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}{e^{-x^{2}}}dx$

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pine iron
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lmao "basic"

sleek wyvern
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I memorized this one its square root of pi

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Lol

pine iron
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prove it 😳

sleek wyvern
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Thats...too hard for me right now

pine iron
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\begin{center}
We begin with the integral over the entire bell curve, and multiply to get a double integral over the real plane using \textit{Fubini's Theorem}.
\end{center}
$$I=\int^{\infty}{-\infty}{e^{-x^{2}}}dx\Rightarrow I^2=\int^{\infty}{-\infty}{e^{-x^{2}}}dx\cdot\int^{\infty}{-\infty}{e^{-y^{2}}}dy\Rightarrow I^2=\iint{\mathbb{R}^{2}}{e^{-(x^2+y^2)}}dydx$$

\begin{center}
Next, we transform with 3d polar coordinates using the Jacobean. Notably, $x=\rho\cos\theta$ and $y=\rho\sin\theta$, therefore $x^2+y^2=\rho^2$. So out task is computing $dydx$ and to transform into $d\rho d\theta$.
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$$J_{\rho\theta}=\frac{d(x,y)}{d(\rho,\theta)}=\begin{vmatrix}\frac{\partial x}{\partial\rho} & \frac{\partial x}{\partial\theta}\ \frac{\partial y}{\partial\rho} & \frac{\partial y}{\partial\theta}\end{vmatrix}$$
$$\Rightarrow\begin{vmatrix}\frac{\partial}{\partial\rho}\left[\rho\cos\theta\right] & \frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}\left[\rho\cos\theta\right]\ \frac{\partial}{\partial\rho}\left[\rho\sin\theta\right] & \frac{\partial}{\partial\theta}\left[\rho\sin\theta\right]\end{vmatrix}=\begin{vmatrix}\cos\theta & -\rho\sin\theta \ \sin\theta & \rho\cos\theta\end{vmatrix}$$

$$\Rightarrow -\rho\cos^2\theta-(\rho\sin^2\theta)=-\rho(\cos^2\theta+\sin^2\theta)=-\rho$$
$$\frac{d(x,y)}{d(\rho,\theta)}=-\rho\Rightarrow d(x,y)=-\rho\cdot d(\rho,\theta)$$

\begin{center}
Now we must find our bounds. It trivial that $\theta\in[0,2\pi)$ and $\rho\in[0,\infty)$ so those must be our bounds, so we have:
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$$I^2=\int^{2\pi}{0}{\int^{\infty}{0}{-\rho e^{-\rho^{2}}}d\rho}d\theta\Rightarrow I^2=2\pi\int^{\infty}{0}{-\rho e^{-\rho^{2}}}d\rho\Rightarrow\pi\left(e^{-\rho^{2}}\right|^{\infty}{0}$$
$$\Rightarrow\pi(-e^{-\infty}+e^{-0})\Rightarrow I^2=\pi\Rightarrow I=\sqrt{\pi}=\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}{e^{-x^{2}}}dx$$

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q.e.d.
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pine iron
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ok anyways, you really don't want to do calculus until you have strong foundation in trig, alg, and precalc

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specifically the rules of Algebra

sleek wyvern
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When i mean basic calculus i mean like u substitution

pine iron
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do you know any calc?

sleek wyvern
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A little yes

pine iron
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do you understand limits conceptually and computationally?

sleek wyvern
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I wouldnt say conceptually but maybe computationally

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Like the derivative is just the limit approaching 0

pine iron
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ok

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sleek wyvern
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yes

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pine iron
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Ok, how is your power rule?

sleek wyvern
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Decent

pine iron
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So if I gave you the problem $\frac{d}{dx}\left[6x^{79}\right]$ you would be able to do it?

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sleek wyvern
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Yes

pine iron
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so then what is $\frac{dy}{dx}$

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sleek wyvern
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Is it 474x^78 ?

pine iron
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Ok so challenge, what about: $\frac{d}{dx}\left[\sqrt{x}\right]$ knowing that $\sqrt{x}=x^{\frac{1}{2}}$

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sleek wyvern
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1/2(squareroot of x)

pine iron
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nice!

sleek wyvern
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I already memorized that one because ive done it a million times

pine iron
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ah

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what about $\frac{d}{dx}[\sqrt[n]{x}]$

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sleek wyvern
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1/n(x)^1-n/n ?

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This is ones tricky

pine iron
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Ok, so we have $\frac{d}{dx}[\sqrt[n]{x}]\Rightarrow\frac{d}{dx}[x^{\frac{1}{n}}]$, yes?

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sleek wyvern
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Yes

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Bring power to front

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And then subtract the power

pine iron
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Now we drop the exponent down in front and subtract from it: $\frac{1}{n}(x^{\frac{1}{n}-1})$

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sleek wyvern
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Yes

pine iron
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simplify the exponent and we get $\frac{1}{n}(x^{\frac{1-n}{n}})\Rightarrow\frac{\sqrt[n]{x^{1-n}}}{n}$

sleek wyvern
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How do i know the exponent is positive?

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1-n/n

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pine iron
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I messed it up 💀

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but that should be it

sleek wyvern
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Can you give me a limit problem

pine iron
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I'll start easy: $\lim_{x\to3}\frac{x^2-9}{x-3}$

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sleek wyvern
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6

pine iron
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nice, quick and easy

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$\lim_{x\to n}\frac{x^2-n^2}{x-n}$

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sleek wyvern
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2n?

pine iron
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Ok so you got that down, $\lim_{x\to0}xe^{-x}$

sleek wyvern
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Would it be just x?

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Wait

pine iron
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oh wait, hang on I think I did this wrong... 💀

sleek wyvern
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No worries

pine iron
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$\lim_{x\to\infty}xe^{-x}$

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sleek wyvern
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Would it be 0?

pine iron
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yes

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how did you get that?

sleek wyvern
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Bring down e^x to the denominator

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And then use lhopitals rule

pine iron
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Can you think about it conceptually without using l'Hôspital's Rule?

sleek wyvern
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Well I know that e^x is growing really fast

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Because its exponential

sleek wyvern
pine iron
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So we have the fraction $\frac{x}{e^x}$

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pine iron
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yes?

sleek wyvern
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Yes

cobalt gull
pine iron
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for sufficiently large x

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e^x will dominate the linear x

cobalt gull
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Or any polynomial x^n for that matter

pine iron
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sleek wyvern
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Thats too hard for me atm

pine iron
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sleek wyvern
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Isnt n factorial just n(n-1)(n-2)...

pine iron
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well then you take that problem as a thought (i forgor correct word) ig, if you have any other question or problems let me know otherwise, is that it?

sleek wyvern
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Can we stick with the basic limits

pine iron
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Ok, how about $\lim_{x\to3}\frac{x^4-81}{x^2-9}$?

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cobalt gull
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$\lim_{x\to0} x\sin(\frac{1}{x})$

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pine iron
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isn't it: $\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\sin(x)}{x}$?

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pine iron
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or are you considering a different limit?

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sleek wyvern
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Oh im dumb lol i factored the denominator

pine iron
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ah

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well that could work just be more steps

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so then what would be the limit?

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sleek wyvern
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18?

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So 1-10 what are my limit skills at I would say im at a 4

pine iron
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$\lim_{0\to\infty}\frac{\ln x}{x}$

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pine iron
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bruh wow im tired

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i really just said limit 0 to infity 🤦‍♂️

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you get the idea x to infinity

sleek wyvern
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0

pine iron
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how did you get that?

sleek wyvern
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Just used lhopitals again as the derivative of lnx is 1/x and derivative of x is 1

pine iron
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ok good

ocean elk
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how on earth did you go from asking about 5a-3b=1 to integrals

pine iron
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dw honestly got carried away with it, math does that ig

sleek wyvern
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I think basic calculus is more up my ally

pine iron
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ok @sleek wyvern I am seriously sleep deprived so I'm gonna go to sleep you can close the thingy if you want by typing .solved or .close I assume you know that but if you want maybe you can get someone else

ocean elk
sleek wyvern
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Im not

ocean elk
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5a-3b= 1 is algebra

pine iron
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no we we're trying to do Diophantine equations

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and he wasn't getting it

pine iron
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ok gn ppl 👋

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.close