#Even & Odd Functions

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sinful sparrow
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I do not understand how to graph this function and create a rule for it, can someone please explain?

frail galleonBOT
sinful sparrow
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old spire
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as u know, it is gonna be a parabola for x>0. As odd functions have rotational symmetry, this would be looking like -x^2 for x<=0. Because f(-x) has to equal -f(x). This will only happen if for x <=0 the function is off opposite gradient and values of the function's behaviour at x >0

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the rule for this function would be thru a piecewise function

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f(x) : { x^2, x>0
-x^2, <= 0

sinful sparrow
old spire
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hmm ya doesnt look like a piecewise can fit in there

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what i think might be the case is

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they might have restricted the domain of f(x) for x >0 (i think and hope)

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but that would make it too easy

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i hate how they didnt specified a domain

sinful sparrow
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yes its a really annoying question

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i understand the concept but the question is trippy

old spire
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which means we had to do it ourselves thru a piecewise, and now they aint accepting that??? all that says to mke is to give them a taste of their own medicine --> just say x^2 really

sinful sparrow
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i already tried that

old spire
sinful sparrow
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it doesnt

faint ivy
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Why not like x^2 * x/|x|

old spire
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but

faint ivy
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Or just x * |x|

sinful sparrow
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ya so x^3/|x|

old spire
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ahh nice this should work

sinful sparrow
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it worked

old spire
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so the trick was we dont have to split the mod

sinful sparrow
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x^3/|x| worked

old spire
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LESGOO

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@faint ivy @sinful sparrow gg

sinful sparrow
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btw i had tried x^3/x earlier and i was surprised that it didn't work but now i see why

sinful sparrow
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ty guys

old spire
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np, a good way to learn for me asw

sinful sparrow
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if you have time, can you help me with this one as well?

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its the other one i was stuck on

old spire
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yeah sure

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this one u have to use long division, then u will get a fraction and a constant added

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*function of x and constant added

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first step - divide 2x^3 + x^2 + 1 by x^2 - 9

faint ivy
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The even function is 1+x^2 / x^2 + 9

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The odd function is 2x^3 / x^2 + 9

sinful sparrow
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let me try again

faint ivy
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its definitely right

sinful sparrow
faint ivy
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Oops

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-9

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For both

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Read it wrong

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It’s still the correct even / oddness

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Tho

sinful sparrow
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it says its wrong

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i already tried it

old spire
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does it take 2x+1 for the odd part?

sinful sparrow
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thats what i did

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(highlighted boxes are incorrect)

sinful sparrow
old spire
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yeh i was gonna give the even part if this one worked

sinful sparrow
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wait i think i know what i did wrong

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g(x) is supposed to be odd

old spire
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but i think 2x+1 and -18x+10/x^2-9 are both odd

sinful sparrow
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oops

old spire
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bruh

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Lol

sinful sparrow
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lmao

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its correct now lol

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my bad

old spire
sinful sparrow
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we just started the lesson

old spire
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nah its not really a method, just using past knowledge.

sinful sparrow
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oh ok

old spire
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but those r good questions

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a hyperbola will always be odd

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and 2x+1 is also odd

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its good application

sinful sparrow
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the question just asks if the function is even or odd

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ok cya

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i might have more questions later tho

old spire
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yeh sure

sinful sparrow
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frail galleonBOT
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sinful sparrow
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@old spire isn't this correct?

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sinful sparrow
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i used discriminant but it says its wrong

faint ivy
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The fundamental theorem of algebra states that any polynomial with degree n will have exactly n roots, so one way to lower the roots of this polynomial to 1 is by lowering its degree to 1. This can be achieved by setting n to zero, which removes the first term.

sinful sparrow
old spire
sinful sparrow
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i somehow forgot i could set n to 0

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lol

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faint ivy
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the discriminant is 4 + n16

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Setting n to -1/4 does give a polynomial with "one" root

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but its technically zero twice

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in the image it also looks like you typed a space after the number 1

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which could be causing an issue

sinful sparrow
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the error was that i didnt put n=0 as a solution

faint ivy
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thats strange

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as both cause it to have one root

sinful sparrow
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no it always asks for all solutions

faint ivy
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ah

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so you need 0, -1/4

sinful sparrow
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altho the way the question is worded makes it sound like n has only one value

faint ivy
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yeah

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because it says "the value" instead of the values

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implying that there is only one

sinful sparrow
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@faint ivy is this not correct?

faint ivy
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?

sinful sparrow
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its another question

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my answer is in the box

faint ivy
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that does not immediately appear to be correct

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the 2 in the (x^2) should add some extra x terms

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but you still have -2

sinful sparrow
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i just did 5(x)^2-2x+3+5(2)^2-2(2)+3

faint ivy
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5(x + 2)^2 = 5(x + 2)(x + 2) = 5(x^2 + 4x + 4)

sinful sparrow
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oh wait ya

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i forgot i have to substitute them together

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f(x+y) != f(x)+f(y)

faint ivy
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mhm

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unless f is a linear transformation

sinful sparrow
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so its 5x^2+18x+19