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quartz yoke
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I have 1 more question as well

urban kindle
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sure

quartz yoke
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Lemme try this time

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,rccw

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quartz yoke
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Lemme do this question

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11/50?

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Wow this is so ez

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Thank you so much at @urban kindle 😭

urban kindle
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npnp

quartz yoke
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Like how do i write in a proper way in exam

urban kindle
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haha no idea either

quartz yoke
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Oh thanks xD 😭ill ask my teacher ok

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cursive harbor
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Just name the events A and B and write out the formula

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That should be enough

quartz yoke
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Uh

cursive harbor
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Wait no it's not Bayes

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It's just conditional probability

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Same point holds

quartz yoke
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Im not used to solve probability based on combination

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Forgot it 🥲

urban kindle
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i dont think theyve been introduced to priors/posteriors yet...

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that kinda is what we're doing here but intuitively?

quartz yoke
cursive harbor
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(it's possibly smth I know but I've never heard the terms)

urban kindle
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The posterior probability is a type of conditional probability that results from updating the prior probability with information summarized by the likelihood via an application of Bayes' rule. From an epistemological perspective, the posterior probability contains everything there is to know about an uncertain proposition (such as a scientific h...

cursive harbor
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Oh okay that I know, didn't know it had a name

quartz yoke
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quartz yoke
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,rccw

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quartz yoke
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2 please

kind viper
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this is a bit ambiguous

urban kindle
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i think we can assume uniform dist :c

kind viper
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it's not clear what we are supposed to count: is any mix of aces and kings OK, or do we want specifically all aces or all kings but no mixture?

cursive harbor
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I assume the latter

kind viper
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ok then there are exactly 2 favorable outcomes.

cursive harbor
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Idk why they had to specify the parentheses at all

kind viper
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i mean maybe this is a trick question where they fool you into taking one interpretation and then go SIKE and say it was the other all along

cursive harbor
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Which makes it a bad question imo

quartz yoke
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So far, all i worked in rd sharma, never felt anything this hard, tbh not even integrals except for the way to solve it

cursive harbor
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What book is this one

quartz yoke
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Rd sharma clas 12

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Class*

cursive harbor
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RD Sharma is usually better with wording

quartz yoke
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Its actually an exemplar

ornate knoll
cursive harbor
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There's three possible readings of this:

  1. 4 cards are a mixture of kings and aces
  2. 4 cards are either all kings or all aces
  3. 4 cards are all aces (and the kings is just mentioned there for some wild reason)
ornate knoll
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So

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Find the prob of 1st ace

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Then 2nd

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Then 3rd

quartz yoke
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I did 2 x 4/52 x 3/51 x 2/50 x 1/49

ornate knoll
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Then 4th

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Similar do king

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And then

quartz yoke
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To think ann has stepped in, i see smth fishy

ornate knoll
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Add

urban kindle
ornate knoll
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I did this last year

cursive harbor
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So you mean the second one in my message, Lizzie?

quartz yoke
ornate knoll
quartz yoke
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Ye dw, in no time i can low-mid diff this

ornate knoll
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Lmao

cursive harbor
ornate knoll
cursive harbor
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Why are you surprised that he can do rd

ornate knoll
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I mean

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Usually ncert and exemplar

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Takes a lot of time

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That u dont have time for rd

quartz yoke
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I skipped exemplar lmao

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Who does that

ornate knoll
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Apparently board

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🤕🤕

quartz yoke
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Im focusing on concept building with medium pace

ornate knoll
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Hmm yea I did trigo with Rd in 11th

quartz yoke
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For which rd is way better

ornate knoll
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It really helped me think

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Different

quartz yoke
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So how do i procced this

ornate knoll
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Now in 12th its really easy to do integration and diff

ornate knoll
quartz yoke
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It shud be like

ornate knoll
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Then find prob of 2nd ace

ornate knoll
quartz yoke
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24/6497400

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Noo how

quartz yoke
ornate knoll
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Yes sry

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Like this

quartz yoke
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4/52 x 3/51 x 2/50 x 1/49

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Yes

ornate knoll
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Yes

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Now do similar with king

quartz yoke
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But i already got the ans

ornate knoll
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Yes

quartz yoke
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1/270275

ornate knoll
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Just multiply by 2

quartz yoke
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Then if king again, it doubles

ornate knoll
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Cause u have to add king one too

ornate knoll
quartz yoke
ornate knoll
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Why

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Answer should be

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2/270275

quartz yoke
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Maybe cuz they mentioned in brackets

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If not it maybe 2/270725

ornate knoll
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They said

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All aces

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Or all kings

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So u add

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Their prob

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So its either all ace or all kings

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U can get one of the two

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Hence y add

quartz yoke
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Yes exactly if it was "all aces or kings"

ornate knoll
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It doesn't say

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Any one

ornate knoll
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Are u given

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The answer

quartz yoke
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But it's "all aces(or kings)" ig

ornate knoll
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Yea

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Its so u dont think that its only one of them

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It can be both

quartz yoke
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,rccw

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ornate knoll
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Oh ig

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Alr then

quartz yoke
ornate knoll
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Yea

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:((

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Sry

quartz yoke
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I had the same thought too so dw

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Thanks for your help 😭

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ornate knoll
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Np :))

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cosmic crypt
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Can you stop spamming the same message everywhere?

urban kindle
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go away @limpid python

random path
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Is this even allowed

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Or does it deserve a mod ping

soft stone
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It is not allowed, it is the definition of SPAM

cosmic crypt
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This is very weird, especially since the OP was asking for help on such questions a few months ago:

random path
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Even if it weren't spam wouldn't it be self-advertising

urban kindle
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😭

random path
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And paid services

urban kindle
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they weren't asking, they were sending it w no context to random channels

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last pine
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i need help with b)
i think we know that the path must be made of 4 units in one diagonal direction (right up or right down), 2 units in the other diagonal direction (right down or right up), and 1 unit that goes down or up

signal willow
last pine
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so im thinking maybe its 7C4 and something else

signal willow
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there's a couple of strategies from this point

last pine
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like im not sure what to do with 7C4

signal willow
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maybe don't do 7C4

last pine
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oh

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alright

signal willow
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you have your one vertical unit

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casework on that obviously works, right?

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maybe you'll find a better solution after doing the casework, but for now, there's only 9 vertical units, which is basically 4 different cases

last pine
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wait why is it 4 different cases

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help

signal willow
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you can exploit symmetry

last pine
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oh yes ok

signal willow
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okay technically each of the cases also splits into 2 cases: whether you go up or down

last pine
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oh yes okok

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wait sorry where do we go from here

signal willow
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casework: which one is the vertical unit used, and which direction you traverse it

last pine
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would the number of variations be the same for each case?

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wait no it isnt right

signal willow
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not necessarily the same

last pine
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cause before this i was thinking like 7C4 * 5 * 2 would work because theres 5 vertical slots the vertical lines can be in and 2 directions yk

signal willow
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so you have to do each case, if you choose to do this casework

last pine
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oh

signal willow
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not sure if there are other cleaner solutions

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oh wait, there are

last pine
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if it helps its a lesson on permutations and combinations

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idk

signal willow
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we do dynamic programming with an extra state

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so there's basically 2 states to keep track of - whether you have taken the vertical path or not

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probably much cleaner

last pine
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is there a way to do it without programming i dont think we've covered that in the class hahah

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maybe its not needed hoepfully

signal willow
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dynamic programming works like this:
Define the following function:
ways(position, taken the vertical) = number of ways to get from A to the given position on the grid, depending on whether you have already taken the vertical move

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so now you can compute all the values, and then your answer is just ways(P, true)

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basically, it's 18 relatively easy values to compute

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but if you still want to do casework on which vertical line to use, you can do that solution instead

last pine
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i was just thinking is there a cleaner way without dynamic programming idk hahah usually the problems from this place have shorter solutions

signal willow
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not sure, I can show you my dynamic programming solution after you are done with either approach

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last pine
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oh

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wait its fine i think

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thank you!

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kind glen
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The order and degree of the differential equation of all tangent lines to parabola y=x^2 is?

kind glen
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how do I write the differential equation?

strange ermine
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!original

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Mmh I'm not sure that the tangent lines form a differential equation

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rugged parrot
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when doing u sub for definite integrals, is it better to write the bounds in terms of u and evaluate the whole integral, or find the integral in terms of u, and then convert it back to x and evaluate?

viscid canopy
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especially with trig integrals

rugged parrot
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thought so, thanks

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how do i do that? i dont really get it tbh

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like lets take the integral of tanx from 0 to 2pi

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i let u = cosx, then what do i do with the bounds?

viscid canopy
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you see how u=cos(x)

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the bounds correspond to x=0 and x=2π

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so the lower bound will be u=cos(0) and upper bound will be u=cos(2π)

rugged parrot
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ohhhhh ok. i see, thanks!

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toxic shoal
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i m uinely stumped

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toxic shoal
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its my first time bte

chilly basalt
toxic shoal
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....

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k

kind viper
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get one that doesn't have a name on it

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mossy tulip
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What does it mean for an equivalence relation to be stronger than another equivalence relation

signal willow
cursive harbor
signal willow
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but to check, you can give more context

cursive harbor
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If a relationship is stronger, its corresponding set is smaller

mossy tulip
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Right, so I suppose a stronger equivalence relation will break the universe down into smaller equivalence classes?

cursive harbor
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Yes

safe oyster
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you will also hear such terminology as coarser and finer

mossy tulip
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Such that equivalence classes formed by weaker equivalence relations will contain union one or more of the equivalence classes made by stronger relation, and uhh

safe oyster
mossy tulip
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Context is isotopy vs isomorphism

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Of Latin squares

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Both are equivalence relations

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Isotopy allows relabelling of elements on the Latin square

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Isomorphism does not

safe oyster
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so isomorphism will be stronger than isotopy

mossy tulip
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Yeah

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But I'm not sure if I'm understanding it right

mossy tulip
safe oyster
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infact it will be exactly a union of equivalence classes of the stronger one

mossy tulip
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"An alternate way to define isomorphic Latin squares is to say that a pair of isotopic Latin squares are isomorphic if the three bijections used to show that they are isotopic are, in fact, equal."

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Not understanding this

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What 3 bijections

safe oyster
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i would have assumed the 3 bijections are permuting rows, permuting columns, and relabelling the elements

mossy tulip
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Hmm

safe oyster
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but then it doesnt make to say they are equal since the domain,codomains of them dont match

mossy tulip
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Yeah

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I'm not getting this

cursive harbor
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Is it trying to say the bijections are equality

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Actually idk what latin squares are so Idk how they're defined

mossy tulip
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I don't even get how this works lmao

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Isn't the domain S

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Of function g

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How is it being applied to the Latin square itself

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Ah rifht

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It's cus L(i, j) is an element of S

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Hmm

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slender delta
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Hello. I was stuck on a problem for about half an hour from a calculus book, so I decided to check the answer, but I don't understand it.
I don't quite get why the derivative g'(1+) is calculated from the formula for derivative of g for x > 1 and contains only '2b', when it should also have in its terms the difference of g(x+h) - g(x), but g(1) is ax^3 - 3x

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eternal pulsar
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So we only need to consider the right hand side, since we’re taking the limit from inputs greater than 1

slender delta
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I am not sure of the definition you used, I know 2 formulas for derivative, and I use this one most of the times (sorry for bad formatting):
lim(h -> 0+) of [ f(x+h) - f(x) ] / h

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so for g'+(1) according to this definition we would have lim(h -> 0+) of [ g(1+h) - g(1)] / h

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so g(1) is in the definition of the right hand derivative according to this definition

pine osprey
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I think its just a notation rather than a definition

eternal pulsar
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We would have 1^+ rather than 1

pine osprey
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Yeah, more like lim(x->a) of (g(x) - g(a))/(x-a)

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slender delta
pine osprey
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When its derivative in a given point, its the one used

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x+h is for generic one

slender delta
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that's what I have in this book

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from what I read, both definitions are valid, but the definition Nr5 requires factoring (x-a) in the numerator most of the times

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so it's harder to find derivatives than the one in definition 4

slender delta
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somehow it doesn't seem right to me, or maybe there's something I miss entirely

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because I haven't seen it anywhere in this book until now

lime juniper
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i forgot the proof atm

slender delta
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I guess if there is such a theorem, solution would work

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it's interesting that until now it hasn't been used or showed in the book, and this is chapter 3.1

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south niche
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26…. I can’t visualize it for shit

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twin idol
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Hmm

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Do you have a decent idea about the x and y parametrization?

south niche
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Yes, on the xy plane we’d see the unit circle

twin idol
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Alright

south niche
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So that narrows it down to I, IV, and VI.

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I can’t be it because z’s range is (0, 1]

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My only problem is between IV and VI

twin idol
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It looks like VI also loops

south niche
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I can’t visualize that Z parametric at all

twin idol
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Hmm

south niche
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I guess Z is constantly oscillating between 0 and 1, so if it’s looping it has to be VI right?

twin idol
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If you graph y = 1/(1+x^2), you'll have a grasp over how the z axis will behave

south niche
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Ohhh so it’s like

twin idol
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It has to be some oscillation that uses an exponential argument

south niche
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it only has 1 small exponential change

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Which you can see at the top of VI

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Ohhh I’m finally getting it

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static kettle
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how I do this

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nimble basalt
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you have y''=-36y

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can you think of any functions that, when differentiated twice, give some constant multiple of the negative of the function?

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short lantern
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the general solution isnt what youre looking for, you can test each answer since youre looking for a specific solution

static kettle
short lantern
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yes, see which one gives you 0

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Yes

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safe oyster
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Can you send the question in English please

strange pendant
safe oyster
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So what is your question

strange pendant
safe oyster
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Which part of i

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There are 2 questions in i

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@strange pendant

strange pendant
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first

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the former

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@safe oyster

safe oyster
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You could not prove that it is an equivalence relation?

strange pendant
safe oyster
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If R is an equivalence relation, then what does R need to satisfy

strange pendant
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reflexivity

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symmetry

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transitivity

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@safe oyster

safe oyster
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So which one are you having trouble proving

strange pendant
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symmetry

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@safe oyster @safe oyster @safe oyster

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you here dude

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or not?

safe oyster
strange pendant
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xRx ∀x ∈ X

safe oyster
safe oyster
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R is symmetric if xRy implies yRx

strange pendant
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i mean

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i am having trouble with reflexive

safe oyster
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Seriously?

strange pendant
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ye

safe oyster
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You can't prove that gRg for all g in F?

strange pendant
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g R g <=> g o f = gof

safe oyster
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Yeah

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Is it true that g o f = g o f for all g?

strange pendant
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ye

safe oyster
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????

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So it's reflexive

strange pendant
safe oyster
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Okay?

safe oyster
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So how do you not agree that it's reflexive

strange pendant
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yes bit we need to prove the equality holds

safe oyster
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I know that

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You are not able to prove that a = a?

strange pendant
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that is where I am stuck

safe oyster
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g o f and g o f are the same thing (and they both exist)

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They are equal

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I don't know how else to say this

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Sure you can use equality of functions (whatever that means) to prove they are equal

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But none of that is needed

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They are the same element of a set

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So they are equal

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i am trying to take union of two arrays, here's what i have done: ```#include <iostream>
#include <set>
using namespace std;
int main()
{
int n1, n2;
cout << "enter the number of elements in first array: ";
cin >> n1;

int a[n1];
cout << "enter elements of the array: ";
for (int i = 0; i < n1; i++)
{
    cin >> a[i];
}
cout << "enter the number of elements in second array: ";
cin >> n2;

int b[n2];
cout << "enter elements of the array: ";
for (int i = 0; i < n2; i++)
{
    cin >> b[i];
}
set <int> s;
for(int i = 0; i < n1 + n2; i++)
{
    s.insert(a[i]);
    s.insert(b[i]);
}
cout << "after union: ";
for (auto it = s.begin(); it != s.end(); it++)
{
    cout << *it << endl;
}

}but, for my output, i am getting a couple garbage values:enter the number of elements in first array: 5
enter elements of the array: 1
2
3
4
5
enter the number of elements in second array: 4
enter elements of the array: 4
5
6
7
after union: 0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
256
9191456i could be wrong but i think the problem is here:for(int i = 0; i < n1 + n2; i++)``` because it is also considering the values common in both of the arrays. how do i fix this?

wintry knot
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oh also, just noticed, why am i also getting 0 as an element in my output?

hushed magnet
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insert first a into s

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and then b

wintry knot
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different loops?

hushed magnet
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currently you are using a[i] and b[i] with values i which are > n1, n2

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that is undefined behavior

wintry knot
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okay, makes sense

hushed magnet
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probably coincidence

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from the undefined behavior

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not sure

wintry knot
hushed magnet
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I am actually surprised that s has so few elements after this

wintry knot
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why?

hushed magnet
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it should have way more

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you are inserting 18 elements

wintry knot
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union does not contain repeated elements, right?

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no?

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5 elements of a and 4 elements of b

hushed magnet
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your loop runs 9 times. and in each loop you are inserting 2 elements

wintry knot
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ah i get it now

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wait

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n1 + n2 is unnecessary, no?

hushed magnet
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yes

wintry knot
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should be greater of both of them

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?

hushed magnet
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one option: two loops

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personally I like that option more

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clean, easy to read

wintry knot
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but still it takes garbage values

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what's the other option?

hushed magnet
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second option: one loop, build in a check that i is not too big

wintry knot
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do not get what you mean by that

hushed magnet
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if i < n1: insert a(i)
if i < n2: insert b(i)

wintry knot
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right

wintry knot
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than the first approach

hushed magnet
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should be more

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first has two loops with n1 and n2 steps each

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this one has 2*max(n1, n2) steps

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and two costly if conditions

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but who knows what the compiler actually makes out of that

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right

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hushed magnet
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you could of course be cheeky

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and immediately insert the elements into s when you input them

wintry knot
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and not take two separate arrays?

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but would that not make the question trivial

hushed magnet
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hushed magnet
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well you could still insert them into a, b

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but that would be just for show

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hence, cheeky

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it would miss the point of the exercise (which is to combine two arrays)

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but it would give the correct result

wintry knot
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would that result in an optimal solution?

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i mean

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yes, no?

hushed magnet
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I dont know what the compiler does with code like this

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it should be a very tiny difference

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cause really you are just moving the same statement to a different point

wintry knot
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but aren't we using less for loops

hushed magnet
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sure, but each loop does more

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in total we do the same amount of steps

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I dont know how costly it is to "start" a for loop

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in practice this difference would never matter

wintry knot
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can you please link me to a good youtube video which teaches how to calculate time complexity, if you know of any? it gets a little confusing for me at times

hushed magnet
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I dont know one

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for basic things like this, you really just need to count how often each for loop runs and how many steps you do in each iteration

wintry knot
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but wouldn't that be a lot of work if you have a code with hundreds of lines?

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like i have seen people calculate time complexities of complex codes in seconds

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i have watched a couple of lectures on it but

hushed magnet
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depends on the code

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for some code you only need to see things like "oh three nested for loops, each going from 1 to n and each with a constant amount of steps in it, so O(n^3)"

wintry knot
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isn't the amount of steps always constant?

hushed magnet
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well the lines in the loop could themselves call functions which take some amount of steps

wintry knot
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but still, that would still be constant to some extent, right? because there has to be a base condition

hushed magnet
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each function in its implementation could again have a for loop or something

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that depends on n

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or i

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or some other thing

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if that happens, then stuff gets more complicated

wintry knot
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okay, makes sense

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I forgot, what part of this equation is the normalvector?

hushed magnet
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the cross product of (1,0,2) and (-2,1,2)

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2nd and 3rd

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gilded lark
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Multiple correct

kind viper
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,rccw

boreal girderBOT
gilded lark
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I tried

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That denominator is not 0

paper anchor
gilded lark
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Yeah it did but not in options

paper anchor
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It's c right?

winged dock
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The general method to solve such questions is to equate the fraction to y

gilded lark
gilded lark
paper anchor
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1 - 4k > 0

gilded lark
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Bruh
Silly mistake

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It happens to me too

paper anchor
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Or wait, it's not equal to 0

winged dock
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@gilded lark what did you try

gilded lark
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But idk how well

gilded lark
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And nothing truly

gilded lark
winged dock
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That is a condition you can check for later

gilded lark
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U mean to take it = y

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And solve then

winged dock
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Wait I have another question

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How do we find the range of the expression x²+bx +c / x² + dx + e

gilded lark
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The answer is B for sure and might be more

winged dock
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Have you done questions like these

gilded lark
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I have

winged dock
gilded lark
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Ty

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I can solve it further
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Anyone knows how LSTM works and can help me to understand it?

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Like the math behind it

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Never mind I think this is too broad

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,rccw

boreal girderBOT
true lava
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for the thing 8(x-5)^2(X+2)

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its asking to solve the following inequalities

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and write in interval notation

cursive harbor
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Observe that 8(x-5)² is always positive

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So it comes down to the signs of the rest

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(other than for equality)

true lava
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yeah

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yeah the rest are negative using the method of the line thingy

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but im not sure what

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interval notation it is

cursive harbor
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Essentially

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You can rewrite it as two things

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One is an equality and one is a strict inequality

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Then in the strict inequality you can get rid of the stuff which is always positive

cursive harbor
true lava
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ok?

lime juniper
true lava
cursive harbor
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What method did you teacher explain

true lava
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that line method

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where you pick a value inbetween and sub it in to find if its negative or positive

lime juniper
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is the line method in the room with us right now

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oh witht the +++, ++- part?

true lava
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this part

lime juniper
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okay sure

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call the polynomial p

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p(x) = 8(x-5)^2 etc

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what are the roots of p? meaning, when is p=0?

true lava
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x=5

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x=-2

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x=3

lime juniper
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good

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are those the ONLY places p=0?

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or could it be there's a fourth x we haven't found

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p(104)=0?

true lava
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there is no 4th x man

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i mean zero

lime juniper
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correct, there are only those 3 places

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now

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let's suppose p is positive on some interval and negative on the same interval

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it has to be that p crosses the x-axis if that happens

true lava
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well i figured that out

lime juniper
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oh, so you're good without more help?

true lava
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no idk what the interval is then

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thats the problem

lime juniper
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well

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what intervals do we KNOW the polynomial can't change sign?

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any interval that doesn't solve p(x)=0

true lava
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cant change the sign?

lime juniper
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can't be both positive and negative in the same interval

true lava
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yeah

lime juniper
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since p crosses zero any place where it changes sign, any interval where p(x)=0 has no solutions has a constant sign

true lava
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well from -inf to -2 its above

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-2 to 3 its negative

lime juniper
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which is not a solution

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so from -2 to 3 it is a solution

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any other intervals where it's a solution?

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to the inequality?

true lava
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3 to inf?

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wait where its negative

lime juniper
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then p is positive

true lava
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no there is only that then

lime juniper
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great

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so the interval is either

true lava
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so its -2 to 3 only?

lime juniper
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(-2,3), [-2,3], (-2,3] or [-2,3)

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you've narrowed down the interval to those 4 choices

true lava
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well its hard bracket

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[]

lime juniper
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correct, because it says <=0

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not < 0

true lava
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yeah

lime juniper
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so that's [-2,3]

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that's the interval of solutions

true lava
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yrah

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you think you can help me with some more stuff

lime juniper
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you should write

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$$x \in [-2,3]$$

boreal girderBOT
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gfauxpas

lime juniper
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to be precise that the interval means what range of x values you can use

true lava
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yeah

lime juniper
true lava
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its the same page with the same title

lime juniper
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okay shoot

true lava
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,rccw

boreal girderBOT
lime juniper
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all 3 parts?

true lava
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the first one so i know how to do it

lime juniper
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so an important rule

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definition:

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the image of a function is the values it can take

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for example, the image of the function f(x) = -2 is just {-2}.
if g(x)=x^2, the image of g is [0,+infinity)

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Theorem

true lava
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yeah

lime juniper
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the image of an odd degree polynomial is all reals

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the image of an even degree polynomial is NOT all reals

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so why is that relevant here?

true lava
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im not sure

lime juniper
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because if the limit at -infinity is infinity, and the limit at infinity is -infinity

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it means the polynomial can be any real number

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because it connects every point in between

true lava
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yeah

lime juniper
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which means you've narrowed down the 4 possible answers to 2, which are?

true lava
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a and d

lime juniper
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why'[s that?

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it can only be a degree odd polynomial

true lava
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oopsie

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i was thinking about the end behavior based off the degree

lime juniper
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really you don't need this theorem, but I encourage students to use theorems that narrow down a multiple choice question to half the possible answers with 3 seconds of thinking

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to find the limit at +infinity or -infinity of a polynomial, you just look at the biggest degree term because that's the most "important" for large x

true lava
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but would it be c

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i looked at the limits

lime juniper
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the second one, you don't want to have to use the binomial theorem on (x+2)^5, but you don't need to for a similar reason that for the inequality question you didn't need to consider the behavior of 8(x-5)^2 in the polynomial 8(x-5)^2(x+2)(x-3)

true lava
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and the sketches the end behavior

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which mimics c's degree of negative and odd

lime juniper
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don't think "mimic" is the right word but i think i know what youre saying

true lava
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well is it correct?

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my langguage isnt super good

lime juniper
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try to say it in a different way so i understand waht youre thinking

true lava
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well a negative makes the end behavior flip right and an odd end beahavoir is and sorta s like shape

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@lime juniper

lime juniper
true lava
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oh ok

lime juniper
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s-shape is good way to think of it

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keeping in mind a straight line also is an odd degree polynomial though

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but the idea is that the behavior at one end +infinity and the other end is -infinity

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if you multiply an s-shaped function by an even degree polynomial, those infinite limits at infinity wont change, I think thats what youre saying

true lava
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yeah

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so is c correct or not?

lime juniper
true lava
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d*

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missclick

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hello?

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hello

lime juniper
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hello

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yes d

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there's another way to do this that applies for the second group of questions

true lava
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i got answers for those already

lime juniper
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but you can use the first way

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alright

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great

true lava
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b and a

lime juniper
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hmm gonna have to disagree with you on that

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did you narrow it down to the biggest degree term?

lime juniper
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what are they?

true lava
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first 2 are 8

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second 2 are 9

lime juniper
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but you cant forget the coefficient

true lava
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i didnt?

lime juniper
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okay, so, first 2 are 8 with what coefficient? second 2 are 9 with what coefficient?

true lava
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they all got 2 but a and c are negative

lime juniper
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so the polynomial h cant have a negative leading coefficient

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why not?

true lava
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because the end behavoir doesnt allow it

lime juniper
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right, so, it cant be "b and a" like yoiu said

true lava
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no i meant the 2nd question was b and the third was a

lime juniper
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ooh, well

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sorry for that confusion

true lava
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it ok

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so?

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@lime juniper

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sorry im busy now i cant help anymore until later

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hello i need help solving part a

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uneven birch
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Hint : use the center of the circle to partition the área

wind grove
kind viper
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yeah im gonna second shakigras here

kind viper
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take the midpoint of EF and call it O

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thats the center of the circle

wind grove
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ohh okay yeah

kind viper
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connect G and O with a line segment; this will split your area into two pieces -- one of them is a triangle (EGO), the other a sector (FOG)

wind grove
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can you please help me visualise

kind viper
wind grove
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ohhh right tysm

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then what?

kind viper
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this will split your area into two pieces -- one of them is a triangle (EGO), the other a sector (FOG)

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do you know in general how to find the area of each of those shapes?

wind grove
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uhh

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the triangle is 1/2 * base * height no?

kind viper
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that's one of the formulas for the area of a triangle

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but far from the only one

midnight stream
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that's one formula

wind grove
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so whats the one we need to use for this

midnight stream
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but since you're given θ you'll need a formula that involves that

kind viper
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you will find it more convenient to use the formula A = 1/2 ab sin(C) [via sides and angle between them]

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you'll need to do a little bit of angle-chasing on the diagram before that tho

warped parrot
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whjat part are you on

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ab or c

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i mean a orb

wind grove
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midnight stream
wind grove
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no

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unfortunately

midnight stream
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you need to find the area of the 2 shapes you created as function of thera

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theta

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since without theta as a variable, you're not given enough information

kind viper
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for a start, can you find either of these two angles i've marked here

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in terms of θ, obv

wind grove
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i

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hmmmm

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no..

midnight stream
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the triangle has 2 equal sides

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EO AND OG

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also Ann lmk if you think I'm interfering negatively

wind grove
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yeah

midnight stream
wind grove
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the angles are also equal?

kind viper
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which angles?

midnight stream
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not all angles

wind grove
midnight stream
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which they aren't

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2 sides are equal, therefore

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?

kind viper
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yknow what @midnight stream you can take this oveer

wind grove
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therefore two angles are equal?

midnight stream
midnight stream
midnight stream
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I'll ping you when you're needed again

wind grove
midnight stream
wind grove
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EGF?

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and GEF

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?

midnight stream
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GEF and EGF

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yes

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they're both equal θ

wind grove
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i seee

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yeah

midnight stream
wind grove
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yess

midnight stream
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can you find the red angle

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now

wind grove
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pi - 2 theta?

midnight stream
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correct

wind grove
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ty

midnight stream
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which would mean that the green is

wind grove
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uh

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pi/2 - (pi - 2 theta)

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?

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oh wait no

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mb

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green should be js 2 theta

midnight stream
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EOF is pi, correct

wind grove
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i think

midnight stream
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correct

wind grove
wind grove
midnight stream
wind grove
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how

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do we use it

midnight stream
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you'll need the length of 2 sides, a,b in this case and the angle that connects the two sides

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do you have that?

wind grove
midnight stream
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well you only know the length of 2 sides

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of the triangle

wind grove
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oh yes

midnight stream
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and we just found the red angle which is the angle that connects those 2 sides

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so what's the area of the triangle

wind grove
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wait so like EG is the side we're looking for right

midnight stream
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we're not looking for any sides

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we have all the information needed to use the formula

wind grove
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ohh

midnight stream
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we have the sides EO and OG as well as the angle EOG

wind grove
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so like 1/2(6 * 6) * sin(2 theta)?

midnight stream
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correct but the angle is wrong

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2 theta is green

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red is pi-2 theta

wind grove
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pi - 2 theta then?

midnight stream
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yes

wind grove
wind grove
midnight stream
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Area of Triangle = 1/2 x EO x OG x sin(EOG)

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and then add the numbers

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do the math

wind grove
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ohhh right right

midnight stream
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and let me know what you end up with

wind grove
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thank you smm

wind grove
midnight stream
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you're not done yet

wind grove
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wait what

midnight stream
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you want the area of the whole region, you've only found the triangle and you still don't have what you need for the triangle which js 18*sin(2θ)

wind grove
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh right thats only the area of the triangle

midnight stream
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what'd you find

wind grove
wind grove
midnight stream
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you'll have something really similar

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but not quite

wind grove
wind grove
midnight stream
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okay

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so sin(π-θ)=sin(θ)

wind grove
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bro im supposed to be doing 10th grade maths why is this so complicated

midnight stream
wind grove
midnight stream
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you've either been asked to memorize it or derive it

wind grove
midnight stream
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but there's like a lot of ways to derive it

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sin(pi-theta)=sin(theta)

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that's just true

wind grove
midnight stream
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yes

wind grove
midnight stream
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but I'm not sure if you have to prove it or you're asked to know it

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memorize

wind grove
wind grove
midnight stream
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you've probably come across this

wind grove
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maybe idk

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okay so then what

midnight stream
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okay

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so do you know what a sector is

wind grove
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yeah

midnight stream
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do you know how to find its area

wind grove
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pi * r^2 * theta/2pi

midnight stream
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correct so the area is the area of the circle (pi*r^2) and all of that multiplied by the portion of the circle it takes up (theta/2pi)

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does the formula make sense to you

wind grove
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yes

midnight stream
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okay, do we have everything we need to find the area?

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of the sector

wind grove
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so the pi cancels out and so we're left with 36 theta

midnight stream
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correct

wind grove
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so we add this to the area of the triangle

midnight stream
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the shaded region is those 2 regions, the triangle's and the sector's added

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and you have the solution you were looking for

wind grove
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lowkey a life saver

midnight stream
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do you need help with b?

wind grove
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uhhh

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actually

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sure

midnight stream
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can you repost the question cause I don't wanna scroll all the way up

midnight stream
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ty

midnight stream
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any idea how you'd go about this

wind grove
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one sec

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uhh

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dA/dt = dA/d theta * d theta/dt?

midnight stream
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okay so the derivative

wind grove
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dA/d theta is js

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36 theta + 36cos 2 theta

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i believe

midnight stream
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no

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treat theta as x

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if that helps you

wind grove
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i still arrive at the same conclusion

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idk where im going wrong

midnight stream
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36x

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what's its derivative

wind grove
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36

midnight stream
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good

midnight stream
wind grove
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oh shit

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nah mb gng i didnt see that

midnight stream
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the other one is correct

wind grove
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that was a mistake i didnt mean to write theta

midnight stream
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18cos(2 theta)*2

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all good

wind grove
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yeah

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and d theta/dt is 0.05

midnight stream
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correct

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can you figure out the rest

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or tag Ann, because I'm currently at 4%

wind grove
wind grove
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sure

midnight stream
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can you double check with someone else cause no battery, good luck man

random mica
wind grove
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thank you sm for the help guys

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i really appreciate it

midnight stream
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do .close to close the channel

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already banned

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Damn

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icy topaz
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Let me send the statement of question.

quartz yoke
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bruh I was getting excited then they had to ruin everything in the last sentence

icy topaz
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Why?

quartz yoke
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  • find measure of something
quartz yoke
quartz yoke
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are you still here?

icy topaz
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Hi.

quartz yoke
icy topaz
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I have found AP, AM and MC to all be equal.

quartz yoke
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Nice

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So you'd like to set the angles at the base of triangle PAQ equal