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wind bane
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im just trying to understand the derivative

rigid scaffold
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theta/t is not angular velocity

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theta is the angular displacement

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t is time

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since linear velocity is rate of change of displacement with respect to time

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does it make sense that angular velocity is rate of change of angular displacement (theta) with respect to time

wind bane
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...

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isnt theta/t angular velocity

rigid scaffold
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change in angle means d theta

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since d means small change

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very small change

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so its like this

wind bane
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wait. so d(theta)/dt is the instantaneous angular velocity.

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right?

rigid scaffold
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in a way yes

wind bane
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in a way?

rigid scaffold
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d theta/dt is used when angular velocity is variable

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but if its constant u can use theta/t

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its like suvat and dv/dt

wind bane
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yeha

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this makes sense

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so lemme just understand this..

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so d(theta)/dt is the instantaneous angular velocity meaning that. it gives you the change in angular velocity at a specific moment in time. agree?

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so it acts like a variable kinda

rigid scaffold
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yes

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like finding a tangent to f(x) at a point

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where f(x) is a curve

wind bane
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but theta/t is a constant

rigid scaffold
wind bane
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then what is linear velocity

swift laurel
rigid scaffold
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essentially theres no small change, the ds just cancel out

swift laurel
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ds/dt

wind bane
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okay thanks a lot guys

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tidal vale
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tidal vale
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pls answer this then show me what to put on my calculator

jagged agate
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What have you tried

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jagged agate
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Hi ann

velvet osprey
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first and foremost you should make a diagram here

jagged agate
velvet osprey
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sniped lol

tidal vale
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one sec

jagged agate
velvet osprey
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i might need to go to sleep any minute now tho

jagged agate
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I think i got this

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😂 cookin w trigo

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looks simple.

tidal vale
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its annoying

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maybe for u

jagged agate
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Have you drawn the diag?

tidal vale
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tan(8.3

)=
66.5
h

⇒h=66.5×tan(8.3

)

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hold on that didnt help and no

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65x tan83

jagged agate
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Well, i’m pretty certain you would need a diagram but assuming you don’t really want to draw a disgram

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What is the distance travelled by the plane?

tidal vale
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i need to know how to do it on my calculator

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133 miles per hour

jagged agate
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It travels for 30 mins before being directly over the landmark.

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So you need to know the distance, no?

tidal vale
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no the hight

jagged agate
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Yes, you’re looking for the height.

tidal vale
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distance of the hight idk

jagged agate
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You’re given angle of depression

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You could use one of the 3 basic trigo sin, cos, tan.

tidal vale
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thats what im supposed to use

jagged agate
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Which you already did here.

tidal vale
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i keep getting it wrong

jagged agate
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But you don’t have the opposite, adjacent or hypotenuse.

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So i’d suggest drawing a diagram to help you find one of the three

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And with any one of it, you could use the angle of depression to find the height.

tidal vale
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51249feet?

jagged agate
tidal vale
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the hight yes

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is it right ?

jagged agate
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Its close to my solution

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Did you use the correct conversion?

tidal vale
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1 mile=5280 feet

jagged agate
tidal vale
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9.707

jagged agate
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interesting

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You could try using 9.7 miles

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But yes your solution is right

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$tan(8.3\degrees) = \frac{Height}{66.5}$

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tidal vale
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?

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ohh

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try that

jagged agate
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As long as you got this step, you’re on the right track.

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And i saw your previous step so you’re fine

jagged agate
tidal vale
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yeah i did that

jagged agate
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,calc 9.707*5280

potent lotusBOT
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Result:

51252.96
jagged agate
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Or

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,calc 9.7 * 5280

potent lotusBOT
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Result:

51216
jagged agate
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It’s really the rounding

tidal vale
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my teacher fucked me when it came to that at the beginning of the year

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since it doesnt say to round she says dont round carry your answers on the calculator

jagged agate
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As a STEM student! I only use 3 s.f or 1 dp!

tidal vale
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so which answer has no rounding the top one ?

jagged agate
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Did it work?

tidal vale
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yes

jagged agate
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Okay

tidal vale
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life savor over here

jagged agate
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Nah

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You did everything rigjt from the beginning

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It’s just rounding error.

tidal vale
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i have a iep so sometimes this online shit screws me up

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and yeah my teacher screwed me with that at the begging

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i got more questions

jagged agate
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😂

tidal vale
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yep

jagged agate
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Working?

tidal vale
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wdym

jagged agate
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Show me ur steps

tidal vale
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tan(42

)=
427
h
1


⇒h
1

=427×tan(42

)≈427×0.9004=384.47 ft

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top of tower

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tan(24

)=
427
h
2


⇒h
2

=427×tan(24

)≈427×0.4452=190.10 ft

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bottom of tower

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then add

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am i wrong

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sorry i type on word then copy paste

jagged agate
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😭

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I genuinely cannot read this

tidal vale
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hang on

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tan(42∘)=427h1⇒h1=427×tan(42∘)≈427×0.9004=384.47 ft

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that better

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tan(24∘)=427h2⇒h2=427×tan(24∘)≈427×0.4452=190.10 ft

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first top then bottom

edgy lava
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tan(42) would be h1/427 not the other way around

tidal vale
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rewrite my eqaution to what it shoud be

jagged agate
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What she said.

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Remember, Tan = Opp/Adj

edgy lava
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do it urself lmao

tidal vale
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sorry i just relized my copy paste went wrong i did do it that way

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h1 divided by 427

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and i was just tryna see where its wrong

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574.57 is what i got for h

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wanton grove
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I’m trying to show this, but I’m not sure how

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I was able to show that the volume of the solid bounded above by sphere and below by cone defined on board

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remote mural
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Ohno my question before this wasn't resolved but I went to sleep

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Wait what's going on tho I wanna try

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Sorry I don't think I have the knowledge to understand the usage of phi in your work TAT

wanton grove
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Most of my confusion is actually coming from that

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analog plinth
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determine whether f(x)=|x-5| is differentiable at x=-5. if it is, find the derivative, if it is not, prove it.

analog plinth
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how would I approach this?

mossy geode
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modulus function is non diff at zero

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nvm

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its is

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it is no diff at 5

winter elbow
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The result isn’t zero

civic dirge
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I see what you did haha

mossy geode
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it is diff at -5

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u can use derivative definition to check or draw the graph

analog plinth
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gpt says it's not differnetiable

mossy geode
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gpt is not good at math

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it hallucinates sometimes

civic dirge
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Nice, another example of GPT failing questions

analog plinth
mossy geode
analog plinth
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can someone please give me the full layout of how to solve like the steps?

mossy geode
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😔

analog plinth
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like gpt does

mossy geode
mossy geode
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use lhl rhl= fx for cont and for diff use rhd =lhd check

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if its non cont its non diff not vice versa

analog plinth
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okay

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and if continuous and rhd=lhd then its differnetiable

mossy geode
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then its diff

analog plinth
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okay

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and what does the question mean "prove it"

mossy geode
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u find it and see it justifies the claim

analog plinth
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for this example it is dfiferntialble right?

mossy geode
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what do you think

analog plinth
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is that not a corner

mossy geode
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thats at 5

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-5 is a straight line

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its diff

analog plinth
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wouldnt derifgviative be a vertical line

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I thought straihgt vertical line was no deriviative?

mossy geode
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it isnt vertical

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is it

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all polynomials are diff in their domain

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straight line is a polynomial of deg 1

analog plinth
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can you put it into laymans terms why it's differentialble

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like one coherent sentence

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im kinda slow sorry

mossy geode
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u need to revisit

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this topic

analog plinth
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alright

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what topics exactly?

mossy geode
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i laid it out in multiple simple points

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differentiavility continuity limits functions

analog plinth
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okay bet

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ima just use what u said and learn it more

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thanks for the help

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A "magical birthday" is a birthday in which our age is equal to the sum of the digits in which we were born. For example, people born in 1899 will have a magical birthday in 1926. Similarly, people born in 1908 will have a magical birthday in 1926 as well. Find the first year after 1926 (the first year) that there exists people born on different years that will have a magical birthday in that year.

cunning reef
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so heres what im thinking

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a person born in year $x$ will have a magical birthday in year $y$ if $\$ $x - y = \sigma(y)$

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Copter

cunning reef
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wait what denotes sum of digits again..

glass heart
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sigma is fine

cunning reef
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oh okay

glass heart
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doesnt matter

cunning reef
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how do i go about figuring that out?

glass heart
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I dont think there is something better than just straight up brute force

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the sum of digits function is not nice mathematically speaking

cunning reef
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awh hell nah💔

glass heart
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for each year y compute y+sigma(y)

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computing consecutive sums of digits is easy

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so this is not too much work

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generally you will always add 2 in each step, one from increasing y and one from increasing sigma(y)

cunning reef
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1935 i think?

glass heart
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dunno I wont do the calcs

cunning reef
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lmao

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thanks anyways

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native fox
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^real

barren token
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i was able to find the independent of (2x^2-3/x)^6 which was like -4860 but idk how to get the constant in the first function: (x+1/x)^5

velvet osprey
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you won't actually want to do that here

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the constant terms from each bracket will not help you much

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bc you would have to also think about how you could get x^n from one bracket times x^-n from the other...

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which is difficult

barren token
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mhm

velvet osprey
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do this instead

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barren token
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sorry ive been trying to expand the first function and the second function and mulitply them together to get x^11 ? am i on the right track ?

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@velvet osprey

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there are only two ways to get x^11

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either x^2 * x^9 or x^8 * x^3

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I SOLVED IT AFT ER SO LONG

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i got -36180

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obsidian shale
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help, how do I solve this if neither the frequency of conversion (m) or the nominal rate (i^m) of the other one is not given? tried using the simple interest formula P = F(1 + rt) but got 1.004%. The answer key in the book says it should be 2.015% but how do I come up with that 😭😭

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obsidian shale
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okay, simple and compound interest formula came up w the same ans as well

polar bison
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Don't ping helpers

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Wait for 15 minutes then

obsidian shale
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yeah sorry

unkempt drift
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,calc (1 + 0.01/4)^4

potent lotusBOT
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Result:

1.0100375625391
unkempt drift
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,calc (1 + 0.01)^4

potent lotusBOT
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Result:

1.04060401
unkempt drift
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should be 1.0038% as you said

obsidian shale
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ohh really 😮

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okay thank you

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<@&268886789983436800>

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sturdy edge
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hello

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sturdy edge
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may anyone help me to figure out this question ?

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I am trying to apply NAND-AND but I cant get them both together

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unreal rose
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unreal rose
spare beacon
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I don't want to do any calculation to verify it, but I expect it's because the MGF series starts at x = 1 and its a consequence of reindexing.

unreal rose
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what does reindexing mean

spare beacon
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Like changing the sum from x = 1 to infinity to x = 0 to infinity

unreal rose
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when x=0 this thing = 2 so i still dont understand

spare beacon
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What I am saying is that they are using a geometric series to evaluate the infinite sum and you cannot just replace that without accounting for the missing first term.

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And that I assume that is where it comes from

unreal rose
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oh geometric sum

spare beacon
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Just add and subtract the missing term of the geometric series, absorb one into the series, evaluate the geometric series and simplify

unreal rose
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i didnt even see that im not in the right mind for this

spare beacon
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Then see if that matches or not

unreal rose
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alr thx

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short salmon
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I'm a little curious

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did you ghost ping me here?

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I got a ping and it was deleted when I checked this channel

polar bison
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The harder the problem is the more you need to wait

short salmon
polar bison
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So wait for a postgraduate

short salmon
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unless i am going crazy, i think this question would fall more into the pre-university math category

polar bison
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..

short salmon
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the wording is just a little confusing

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which is why I think people aren't answering

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by "value of the income stream," do they mean how much you'll be making in t years or how much money you'll have in total?

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also, does "interest" here just mean gaining interest on the money you have stored away?

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I really hate that they can't ask their question more clearly 😅 i haven't done word problems in so long since all my college classes never really touch on applied math

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what's the said formula you're meant to use?

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I have one in mind but.... if you're taught something in a certain way, it's prob best to do it that way to please your professor

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can you send it here?

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oh, it's an integral

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oh this one is going to be annoying to integrate because e^negative something

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i'd just wolfram alpha it if i were u lol

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-_-

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i mean, i could i guess but

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you should probably do it yourself for pedagogical reasons

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oh yeah, they probably would not approve of me plugging the integral into wolfram for you

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well ok, let's uh, plug in the terms and then we can stick it into wolfram

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so, for part a, T=4 and r=0.0371, right?

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because, well, it's sort of good to understand this formula more intuitively

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which means looking at what e represents

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which is uh... for you to read on your own. I refer you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)#Definitions

The number e is a mathematical constant approximately equal to 2.71828 that is the base of the natural logarithm and exponential function. It is sometimes called Euler's number, after the Swiss mathematician Leonhard Euler, though this can invite confusion with Euler numbers, or with Euler's constant, a different constant typically denoted

...

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well, sure, but it has a really important interpretation when it comes to computing interest with integrals

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because it's a limit of an expression useful for such tasks

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and also, it integrates and differentiates nicely

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ok ummm

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I would like to ask you to think closely about why e is useful here, since I think it'll help u better understand the problem

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look at the limit definition and see what happens if you rewrite it with $\frac 1n=r$

potent lotusBOT
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00100000

short salmon
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wait wait

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I'm trying to help you understand the math here a bit more

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not just give the answer

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but it will benefit you in the long run to properly understand the math...

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well, alright, if you say so

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uh, well, sure I guess, but like...

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ok fine. I suppose I will wolfram it for you :P

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no, because I didn't compute the integral

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I had integrals in mind for both

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I'm getting a different number for future value

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no

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however, I'm plugging in the exact same integrals as you just wrote out

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so it might be a calculator issue on your end

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or a mistake on my end

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uhhhhhh

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sure

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FV: 5517.53
PV: 1248.87

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short salmon
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were those values correct?

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oh. well, I'm glad to help

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hopefully, you can figure out what was causing you to get incorrect values for your integrals

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I'll be happy to answer your questions if you have spare time

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however, I don't really have the time to directly teach you, unfortunately

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seeing as you're an undergraduate, I have some great books I can recommend you, however

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yeah. I don't really mind

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it's just that if I'm particularly busy, I may not be able to respond

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it's my spring break right now tho

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of course.

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well, which books to recommend really depends on what you're interested in learning i guess.

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hmmm... the unfortunate thing about calculus is that it's mostly taught through heuristics, so it's important to have a strong "intuitive" sense of the principles behind each concept. thankfully, it's definitely something buildable and not innate

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I'd recommend you read AOPS calculus. It's definitely my favorite single-variable calculus book

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full disclosure: i learned single variable calc mostly from high school and not through that book, but I did skim a good chunk afterwards

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💀 not the tea and coffee

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on a related note, I drank way too much coffee last afternoon, and couldn't sleep well at all as a result

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exotic bane
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What is the least multiple of 2016 whose sum of digits is 2016 ?

exotic bane
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somebody help me pls

leaden thunder
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did you try finding a pattern for sum of digits for multiples of 2016

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2 + 1 + 6 = 9

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4 + 3 + 2 = 9

potent smelt
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999...999, with 224 digits is the smallest number whose sum is 2016, this is not divisible by 2016 though.

exotic bane
potent smelt
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So I would approach this with divisibility rules

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We know that 2016 = 32 * 7 * 9

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yes

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so the last 5 digits of our numner must be divisible by 32

potent smelt
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The 9 divisibility we can take care of by just ensuring that our sum is 2016

exotic bane
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yup

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The 7 one is a little trickier, and I'm not sure of a good way to approach it tbqh, as the method is remove the last digit from the number, double it, and subtract it from the leftover part

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We also want to make the leading digit as small as possible

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That vs the 32 divisibility seem to be in tension

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It's not. I'm not actually entirely sure how to do this by hand

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This feels like an Olympiad question, so I am assuming no calculators

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Absolute state of the internet.

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I’ll stop trolling, close it if you’re not asking a maths related question

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-.-

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11

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just ask ur q

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Do you understand how to multiply exponents with the same base and how negative powers work

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Basically imagine I have 2^2 x 2^3

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This is just 2x2x2x2x2

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Or 2^5

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We can generalize this though

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If I have a^b times a^c it equals a^(b+c)

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Does that make sense?

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Ok, so now negative exponents

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Imagine we have 2^2, what operation can we do to go back to 2^1?

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Like doing fractional exponents in general?

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Not quite

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Sooooooo

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Imagine I take 2^3 how do I go back to 2^2?

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This will help, trust me

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Think simpler

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Ypu can also reverse it tho

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The equation
[\frac{ax^2 - 24x + b}{x - 1} = x^2 + x]holds for exactly two real values of $x,$ and their sum is $12$. Find $a - b.$

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Dork9399

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I cross-mulitplied and simplified, and got this

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$x^3 - ax^2 + 23x - b = 0, x \neq 1$

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Dork9399

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Since the equation only holds for 2 real values, we can assume that x^3 - ax^2 + 23x - b has a root at x=1

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which implies that 24 - a - b = 0

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also since the other two roots add to 12, we can assume that a = 13, by vieta's formulae

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that implies that b = 11

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$x^3 - 13x^2 + 23x - 11 = (x-1)^2(x-11)$

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Dork9399

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which means it only satisfies for one real x

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what else could the roots be?

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oh wait

bold bear
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Well if two of them are the same

glacial nacelle
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oops

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bruh

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so uh

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assume we have (x-r)(x-r)(x-(12-r))

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then a = 12+r

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23 = -r^2 + 24r

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uh

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so its

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$x^3 - 11x^2 + 23x - 13$

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Dork9399

glacial nacelle
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,w factor x^3 - 11x^2 + 23x - 13

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oh

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,w expand (x+1)(x+1)(x-13)

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Find the solutions to
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I have to calculate the area that is made by two function

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x=y^2-4 and x=y-2

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here is the plot for them

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i will explain now

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when i rotate

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this what i get

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so i want to calulate the red area - blue area right?

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then why when i integrate this

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i get the negative number of the area

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-1 and 2 is where the function are even

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why?

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isn't the red area the integral of y^2-4

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okey then

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this

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right so i made the mistake on plot

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but

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why is it negative though

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i want the blue

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okey but what do you mean

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ohhh

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right so the area is negative because of that

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or is there another method

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i mean the integral is negative

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okey th

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how do i do this with u sub

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or regularly integrate it

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Multiply top and bot by e^x before

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And then u = exp will be a cool way

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And for b) try to write it as exp(ln(7^x)) and then simplify

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Ok

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Then just do $\int a^xdx=\int e^{x\ln(a)}dx$

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u=xln(a)

gusty lance
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what

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why not js

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ln u = xln7

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can you do it like this

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with logairthmic diff

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ya but for u sub method

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cant we say u = 7^x

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lnu = xln7

tulip spear
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ig?

gusty lance
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ok so then du/udx = ln7 + x/7

tulip spear
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?

gusty lance
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$\frac{1}{u} \cdot\frac{du}{dx} = ln7 + \frac{x}{7}$

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gamer75431

gusty lance
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is this right

gusty lance
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whats wrong with ti

tulip spear
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$\frac1u\cdot\frac{du}{dx}=\ln(7)$

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gusty lance
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isn't it product rule

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xln7

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f'xgx + fxg'x

tulip spear
gusty lance
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oh true

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yes

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but now i am getting du/dx = uln7

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$\frac{du}{ln7} = 7^x dx$

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gamer75431

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idk if this right tho

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if its right then i have no clue where to go from here

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cuz isn't that the whole integrand

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theres no U that were integrating

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how can i know that myself?

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velvet osprey
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black magic tbh

royal ingot
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using delta

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but too much calculations

velvet osprey
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or rawdog the 5 digit number that the discriminant probably is

crimson swift
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?

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royal ingot
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depends in how much your brain can support

pure kayak
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if you can use just a standard calculator, then its not much effort
if you want to do it solely by mind and body, you might get a tad sad

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mode 53?

pure kayak
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quad formula

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calc will deal with the big numbers

royal ingot
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125 is 5^3
404 = 101* 4
308 = 154 * 2 = 77 * 4

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there is a mistake there

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i can use a calculator

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royal ingot
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oh ok

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what about the discriminant ?

crimson swift
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but again, i just dont know how to get to that with it

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mode 53 on the discriminant ?

pure kayak
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(we dont know what mode 53 is)

royal ingot
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honestly I don't use a calculator to solve second degree equations

crimson swift
royal ingot
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you can write the discriminat in your paper calculate it and then write the solution for x and calculate it

pure kayak
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$\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$

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AℤØ

pure kayak
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that

crimson swift
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ok so mode 53 solves that in my calc, the answers to that are 2, 154\125,

pure kayak
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so (x-2)(x-154/125) has the same roots as your quadratic

you multiply by 125 since thats your x^2 coefficient
(x-2)(125x-154) is your factored form

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need help woth question. “A tire with a diameter of 38cm rotates 10 times in 5 seconds.” a) What is the angle that the tire rotates through, in radians from 0s to 5s?

bold bear
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What have you tried?

wicked arch
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i have no idea where to start

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please help😭😭 what does this question even mean? its about angular velocity

bold bear
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Part a isn't about angular velocity, it's just the raw angle

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Okay here's an easier question

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Say the tire rotates once

wicked arch
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yup

bold bear
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How many radians is that?

wicked arch
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2pi

bold bear
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Great

wicked arch
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because thats 360!! heck yeah

bold bear
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So how about if the tire rotates 5 times?

wicked arch
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oh 360 x 5

bold bear
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Sorry 10 times I misread the question

wicked arch
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so 1800

bold bear
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But yeah

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Except that's degrees

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Not radians

wicked arch
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wait so it should be 3600

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in degrees

bold bear
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Yeah

wicked arch
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and into radians its like that times pi over 180

bold bear
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Eventually you just learn to think in radians but for now it's okay to convert everything to degrees, if you find that easier

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Yeah exactly

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Which is?

wicked arch
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so 20 pi?

bold bear
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Yep

wicked arch
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so 20 pi is the answer?

bold bear
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Yeah

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2 pi is one rotation

wicked arch
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ohhh

bold bear
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so 20 pi is 10 rotatins

wicked arch
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so the angle the tire rotates through is 20 pi

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woah what the heck thats actually easy

bold bear
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I reckon you just panicked bc you saw radians

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thank you!!🙏

bold bear
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It's not too bad

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tysm!! good bye depression😭

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np

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what is meant by linear factor

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as in like

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imaginary and real

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so a complex root

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In your book, they're just saying (x - a) can be factored out of any polynomial

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Which is really the same thing

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so its justt asying that a polynomial of degree "n" can be simplified into multiple factors?

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😭

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They're just saying (x - a) can be factored out of any polynomial

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(x - a) is linear, and since it can be factored out, we call it a factor

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It's a linear factor

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how is the limit of this 0

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so what i thought

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so that would be 1/ 1+(1/0)

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but 1/0 is undefined

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you can't necessarily plug in 0

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what does 1/x approach as x -> 0^+

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think about what happens as x gets really small but is >0

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Hint: Write this as $\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{x}{1+x}$

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What a wonderful world !

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I'd try plugging in things like 0.01, 0.0001, 0.000001... and seeing what happens

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wait

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what does approaching x->0+

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mean

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like its approaches 0 as y is positive or sum

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bright wraith
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k but why is it when u just plug in 0 for the orignal equation its undefined

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exactly?

wet urchin
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what

bright wraith
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wont that mean the limit would be undefined?

wet urchin
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approaching 0

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and being 0

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are 2 different things

bright wraith
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Ok

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ok i have a equation

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if the question asked

wet urchin
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hence why you have to take the limit

bright wraith
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lim x->0 without the positive, what would it be

wet urchin
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uh

drifting seal
bright wraith
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bro are we real

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there is a general for a reason

wet urchin
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so basically it was pointless

drifting seal
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tough

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fr

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anything even change

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am i missing smth

bright wraith
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wait

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im so confused

wet urchin
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about?

bright wraith
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wait so as x goes to 0

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right

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it goes to infinity

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and to negative infiinity

wet urchin
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no

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approaches 0

bright wraith
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wait this shi aint right

wet urchin
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what are you specifically not understanding

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like where do you get confused

bright wraith
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the whole thing

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like what is the limit represent

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how did they get 0

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where it clearly intersects on the graph

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at 0,0

wet urchin
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do you know what a limit does?

bright wraith
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huh

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not rly

wet urchin
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if your like not really sure how limits work at all id watch a quick youtubve videe explaining them

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would help u wayy more trust me

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just search calc 1 limits tutorial or smth on youtube

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this probably is a good one

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you can even watch in like 1.5x speed cause he lokey talks kinda slow

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Hi, I wanted to prove that every every subgroup of a abilian group is normal, and I kinda did it in this form: (H is the subgroup of G)

assume $g \in G$ We need to show $gHg^{-1}=H$. $\forall h \in H$ we can show that $ghg^{-1}=gg^{-1}h=eh=h$ thus you would get back the entire group and they are normal

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so what have you tried

wild marten
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sorry i pressed enter too eraly

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my book does it completely differently so

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I was curious

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would by proof still be correct

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yes it's correct

wild marten
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ok in that case

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any clue what was done here?

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it's the same thing

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just written differently

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why is he using gh=hg

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i mean its true but whats the reason for it

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he is starting with gh = hg and right-multiplying both sides by g^{-1}

elder pawn
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these are equivalent

wild marten
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Ok wait so when proving that a subset is normal

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we only need to prove one of them right

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as they mean the same thing

elder pawn
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yes

wild marten
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ok i was curious why he wrote both

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just making sure we only needed to prove/show one

twin raptor
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he is using gh = hg to prove ghg^-1 = h

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he isn't proving both

wild marten
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i mean why

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isnt gh = hg enough

twin raptor
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yeah sure

wild marten
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whats the latex command for iff btw

twin raptor
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$\iff$

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flying_fly

wild marten
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ah cool

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ok so

wild marten
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because if $gHg{-1} = H \iff gH=Hg$ then we only need to show either or right

potent lotusBOT
elder pawn
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i might be a dumb reader

twin raptor
elder pawn
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but ill read gh=hg and say thats clear bc abelian, then i understand the proof

twin raptor
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he just chose to show gHg^-1 = H

wild marten
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hmm

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he says since tho

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oh

elder pawn
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do u get what i mean

wild marten
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gh=hg is the def of commutative

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ah

twin raptor
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gh = hg because the group is abelian

wild marten
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yeah

twin raptor
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that is what he is using

wild marten
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yeah

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not to show it is normal

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alr

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he could just stop there tho

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just making sure

twin raptor
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yeah he could

elder pawn
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i think he did this to make it easier for a dumber reader to understand 🙂

wild marten
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it would just be shitty if he stopped there because it doesnt really form the connection between abelian to normal

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but yeah

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@twin raptor @elder pawn if ur still here

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should this not be $r^{i}H=Hr^{i}$

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twin raptor
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i think it is saying r^iH and Hr^i are both equal to H

wild marten
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wait

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why

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oh

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oh

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OHHH

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its because the last one

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would go

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if i is 1

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then i+n-1 wiuld go to e

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its jsut shifting the rotations by a factor of i

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thats so cool

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unless im wrong

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also

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i never understood

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why the reflections are written as s

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and then a factor of r

twin raptor
wild marten
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like the way he discribes s

civic dirge
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s comes after r, I can only imagine that's why s is used

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s and r are common in dihedral groups

elder pawn
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@wild marten its good to look at the wiki example

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try to convince urself every reflection is s (reflect horizontal) then a power of r (rotate pi/4 ccw)

calm coralBOT
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@wild marten Has your question been resolved?

wild marten
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@elder pawn ohh

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so every reflection is just

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a reflextion on the x axis with a rotation?

elder pawn
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every reflection is s (reflect horizontal) then a power of r (rotate pi/4 ccw)

wild marten
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@elder pawn how did he move it at the bottom:

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Like where did he make it so rs = sr^{-1}

civic dirge
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rs = sr^{-1} is true in every dihedral group

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You can swap s and r. If you do, take the inverse of r (inverse of s is just s itself)

wild marten
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ok so if u look

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at the srs=r^-1

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how would this get translated to $rs = sr^{-1}$

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civic dirge
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srs = r^(-1)

Left-multiply both sides by s:
ssrs = sr^(-1)

ers = sr^(-1)

rs = sr^(-1)

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Where e is the identity

wild marten
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OHH

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ok yeah

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that makes sense

civic dirge
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I would think you'd want to go the other way though

wild marten
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s has order 2

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and r has order n

civic dirge
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rs = sr^(-1) is the common fact

srs = r^(-1) shows the rotations are fixed under conjugation by s

wild marten
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Yeah

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For all dihedral groups right

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@civic dirge

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also also also also

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if ur still here

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$D_4$ would be on a square right

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not a rectangle

civic dirge
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That's a triangle

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wild marten
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whoops typo

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but yeah

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because all the angles and line

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would have their own reflection

civic dirge
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All dihedral groups are on equilateral shapes

wild marten
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goat

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and last clarifying question

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if u have time i feel bad lmao

civic dirge
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Huh? I am here because I am bored at home lol

wild marten
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W lmao

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okok so

civic dirge
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No need to feel bad

wild marten
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whats the latex command for subgroup

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lets say H is a subgroup of $S_3$ where its just {e,(12)}

elder pawn
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many ppl use $\le$

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ロケットジャンプ

wild marten
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ok so

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lets say H \le $S_3$ where its just {e,(12)}

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BOSS
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elder pawn
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wrap $ around all latex

wild marten
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yeah

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i got lazy

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ok but with that

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if i wanted to show its not normal

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do i need ot find the entire coset

elder pawn
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no

wild marten
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or just show that (12) does not commute with say (123)

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its element spesific right

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like each element has the saem coset

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same*

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like is there a case where i get like

elder pawn
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normal is $ghg\inv\in H$

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wild marten
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gH = {z,y} and then Hg = {y,z}

elder pawn
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to show not normal, show its false for one g and h

wild marten
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(12)(123)(21) = (132)

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which $\notin H$

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elder pawn
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ya

wild marten
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but just to understand

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you can have the same coset

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with different elements of H times g

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as long as u get all of h for gH and Hg its fine

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like

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for an indivisual element, gh does not need to be hg for a spesific h

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does that make sense

elder pawn
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ya

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gh=hg only holds in abelian G so if ur trying to impose that itd be damn hard to find normal subgroups in general haha

wild marten
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@elder pawn yeah thats what i was thinking lmao

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.close

calm coralBOT
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Channel closed

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Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

wild marten
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.reopen

calm coralBOT
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wild marten
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uno sec

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@civic dirge twin

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u still alive

twin raptor
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do you have another question

wild marten
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yes

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im trying to understand this

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have the same determanant does not make it the same matrix rifght

twin raptor
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correct

wild marten
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ok i dont understand this proof then

twin raptor
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because ghg^-1 has determinant 1, it is still in SL2(R)

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even if it's different from h

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it's similar to what you were saying above

wild marten
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ok let me break this down

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oh

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OH

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OHHHHHHHHH

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so no matter what u get the entire subgroup again

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im so stupid

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alr ty

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:D

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essensically

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gHg-1 means that u just get back all matricies with det 1

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how do u know u get all of H tho

twin raptor
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suppose h is in H

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you want to find h' in H such that gh'g-1 = h

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and solving this yields h' = g-1hg

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and h' is in H by the same determinants argument

wild marten
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wait im walking back to my dorm ill follow up when i reach