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yea, in the first one you could let y = 3^x and you get a quadratic in y
this won't work in the second one because as you noted, the bases are not the same
also, even if the bases were the same, you have a 9th power term, so if anything it would be 9th degree polynomial, not a quadratic
Ahh that makes sense, so it’s a 1st degree polynomial if you leave it at base of 8 but at base 2 it becomes 9th degree. But since the two terms aren’t/can’t be converted to same base unless you use log func, can’t just factor like a normal quadratic
Anyway I think that clears that up for me, thanks
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simplify $\frac{\sin(7x)-\sin(5x)-\sin(3x)+\sin(x)}{\cos(7x)-\cos(5x)+\cos(3x)-\cos(x)}$
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is this correct?
,w [sin 7x - sin 5x - sin 3x + sin x]/[cos 7x - cos 5x + cos 3x - cos x]
tan 2x it is 
thank you!
You have good eyes
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im trying to find the relative extrema and points of inflection
but i think myrelative extrema is wrong
and also idk how to find the second dereviative
it's not wrong
it's totally correct
the 2nd derivative is a little bit of a pain to find, but you can use the product rule
before doing derivatives you seem to be simplifying the e's exponent and you wrote -1/2 x^2 + 2x - 2 = -x + 2, kind of confused what you are doing there
oh derivative of that part i see
it'd be helpful to actually write what you are doing instead of just a bunch of = signs 😄 between expressions that aren't actually equal
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as soosh said, it would be really helpful if you just indicated you were simplify and differentiating the exponent here 
cuz if u choose a number bigger than 2 , then the entire thing becomes negative :d
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ur not doing it with g'(x) :c
u even wrote it there , signs of f'
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so,
3ab=a+b => 3abc=ac+bc
4bc=b+c => 4abc=ab+ac
5ac=a+c => 5abc=ab+bc
12abc=2(ab+ac+bc)
24abc=4(ab+ac+bc)
24abc/(ab+ac+bc)=4(ab+ac+bc)/(ab+ac+bc)=4
is this correct
ok ty
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how many triangular pyramids can be formed by using the verticies of a cube
total is 8c4=70
but there are some that are just fully flat so not a pyramid
so there are the ones that are like the faces of a cube, so subtract 6
then the diagonals that are horizontal to eachother, which is 2, and diagonals that are vertical, which is 4, so 70-6-6=68
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can anyone help me with this limit
What's with the alpha?
this is so bizarre
First try to find the limit of the thing in the arctangent
Ig we have to split in cases and solve for different range of values of alpha
well there can be at most one value of alpha for which the limit is finite and nonzero
Yeahh !
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I gave an exam today and really wanna know if I passed ….. please help me confirm how much I scored … only the questions which I have ticked.. thanks in advance
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Can someone please help me on this question
The red part is what I know so far
I don't know how to calculate the area of the second triangle
Area Formula for scalene triangles
yeah i noticed that too
i don't know what the height is
Ofc 5, if 12 is base
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How do I find what this limit converges to?
Tried using squeeze theorem but I don’t know what lower bound to use
what's x_1 and x_2
Why x,y became x1,x2
isnt the lower bound just 0
Honestly, step one should be substituting the x_1 - 1 = X
ln(x) can become negative
lnx1 isn’t always positive
Why do you write it is 1?
It’s a question mark
$\lim_{(X, Y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{XY^2}{X^2 + Y^2} \cancelto{1}{\frac{\ln (1+X)}{X}}$
wow
near x = 1, if x > 1, lnx>0
if x < 1, lnx < 0
as x -> 1, lnx -> 0
therefore we know |lnx| is small for x near 1
Arya
Is that the same function?
Is it not? Is it easier to deal with (x_1 - 1)² + x_2² and ln(x_1) as (x_1, x_2) -> (1, 0) than to deal with X² + Y² and ln(1+X) as (X, Y) -> (0, 0)?
or you can use squeeze theorem, you can see that as x -> 1, lnx -> 0 therefore lower bound is 0
Yeah or I wasn’t sure about the lower bound
yes lower bound
if x tends to 1, lnx will tend to 0
so you can consider the lower bound to be 0
How does that help
because the definition of squeeze theorem is g(x) <= f(x) <= h(x)
Yeah and both upper and lower tend to 0 then
yes
I think somehow a minus got lost here?This is now >= 0.
There is no lower bound
as x->1, lnx->0
where?
X -> 0^{-} => ln (1 + X) < 0
What is Y here?
x_2
your x2
,wolf lim ((1/n)²ln(1-1/n))/((1-1/n-1)²+(1/n)²), n->oo
huh wait
the limit is indeed zero, and there is a way to prove this term goes to 0
rewrite it as
$\frac{xx_2^2}{x^2+x_2^2}$
rafilou is not not born in 2003
well it does
choose x_1=1 and x_2=1/n
How do I use Cauchy schwarz to show that?
then f(n) = 0 for all n
abs(xy)<=abs(x) abs(y) is Cauchy schwarz right
no
wait
I might have gotten confused on the name
it's AM GM
What’s that
Or maybe using polar coordinates?
rafilou is not not born in 2003
deduce an upper bound of $|xx_2|$
rafilou is not not born in 2003
x x2 + 1 maybe?
maybe rather consider $(|x|-|x_2|)^2$ instead
rafilou is not not born in 2003
and no it won't come like that
you need to rewrite what $(|x|-|x_2|)^2\geq 0$ means
rafilou is not not born in 2003
Yeah
Doesn’t it matter that the denominator is 0
That does not converge to any limit, the original expression does.
So like squeeze theorem?
multiplying by x_2, that goes to 0
yes it's the idea
so we're trying to find an upper bound
Yeah but since the ln term becomes 1 we wanna show this part goes to 0
they're saying that because you forgot a ^2 in your message
you wrote xx_2/... instead of xx_2^2
anyways
rewrite this in a way
that makes this term appear
Coming back to this, use the inequality to find appropriate upper bound to this
what's the lower bound of the absolute value of something?
0
so we only need an upper bound
for the absolute value of this
Where does the absolute term come
wdym
Or I’m confused why were looking at the absolute value now
we want to show our thing converges to 0
So we show absolute convergence?
so by squeeze theorem
Is that the term I don’t remember
no that's not it
it's just that
f(x,y) -> 0 iff |f(x,y)| -> 0
so trying to show |f(x,y)| -> 0
upper bound |f(x,y)| by something that goes to 0
and we're done
Okay so then we look for an upper bound to the absolute value of the expression x x^2/(x^2+x2^2)
So for example taking the x^2 term away from the denominator were left with just x which goes to 0
Or?
How? The term becomes bigger
Since were dividing by a smaller number
$\frac{X}{1 + \frac{X^2}{Y^2}} \leq X$
Arya
Oh that’s much simpler
And since the RHS converges to 0, by squeeze theorem you have your result
Exactly 
otherwise
Isn’t this result tthe same as taking away the x^2 term from the denominator
Of the absolute value
yes it's the same as upper bounding the denominator x^2 + y^2 >= y^2
Put abs on | • |
and that
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i have to show that the number of incorrect answers by ahmed < 4
idk if i’m making this problem harder than it is but:
x is the number of questions he got right in section 1 and 30 - x is the number of questions he got wrong in section 1
The same thing applies for y and z but in sections 2 and sections 3 respectively
And so:
x(1) + (30-x) (-3) + 2y + (30 - y)(-1) + 2z + (15 - z) (-2) = 4x + 3y + 4z - 150
now i know that 0 < x,y <= 30 and 0 < z <= 15, where x,y, and z are integers
i'm guessing then the problem reduces to me having to show that 75 - (x + y + z) < 4 or in other words (x + y + z) > 71 when 4x + 3y + 4z > 258
looks pretty hard but with code i’ve verified that the claim is true

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i already did all that tho lol
check my message above
there’s 3 variables
for 3 sections

the question is literally this tho
if your solution is something along the lines of having 4 mistakes in section 2 still not resulting in <90% grade thus …
then that feels gimmicky
yeah then that isn’t 😭a type of solution i’m looking for
it’s gimmicky
can u build off what i did
no, i thought of the exact same solution
which is why i typed it out before u did
it works for this problem
i want to learn smth from the problem
instead of just “solving” it
isn’t this 😭just what we said informally
can we just do what i did
at the start?
Did you try case solving this? The four cases being Ahmed's scores at 82, 83, 86, 90
Wait that's all?
not something like this solution
Wdym no gimmicks
bc that solution rests more on the number 4 than anything and therefore i’m not learning anything from this problem
Welp, that's the way though. An incorrect answer in sections 1 and 3 give a minus 4 score
other than “solving” it
😭😭
In section 2 is a minus 3
the thing is
the question type is of the form
is 4 > incorrect answers from ahmed
4 = incorrect answers from ahmed
4 < incorrect answers from ahmed
no sufficient information
Do you want an optimization type solution?
yeah
smth like i’ve done above?
Yes. In fact 3 > incorrect answers from ahmed
Write all restrictions on x, y, z, even something like x ≥ 0 or x ≥ 1
isn't it already written there
Oh hmm
tbh
our problem is now just this:
like all the yap probably only requires this
(according to me)
but i think all steps logically follow
So, the problem is to minimize (x + y + z) subject to 4x + 3y + 4z > 258, 0 < x, y ≤ 30, 0 < z ≤ 15
that could be another way to phrase the problem yeah
actually show that the minimum > 71
ran a code with this description
and as you can see yeah the sum > 71
hmm okay np.
not smth overly complicated either 😭
this is assumedly algebra
> x,y, and z are integers
> 0 < x,y <= 30 and 0 < z <= 15```
surprisingly, that's technically all the problem boils down to^ imo
You might be looking for this

it's a 2 minute problem
i did think of linear programming
but like not too familiar with it
Is indeed a 2min prob if you're familiar with linear programming
Give a sec.
> x, y, and z are integers
> 0 < x, y <= 30 and 0 < z <= 15
=> 4(x + y + z) > 258 + y
=> x + y + z > 64.5 + y/4
Claim: y > 26
Assume to the contrary that y ≤ 26
=> 4x + 3y + 4z ≤ 4(x + z) + 3*26 ≤ 180 + 78 = 258 =><=
Hence, y > 26
=> x + y + z > 64.5 + y/4 > 64.5 + 26/4 = 71
=> x + y + z > 71```
@exotic cosmos that's probably the rigor you're looking for?
I will also check Linear Programming and provide an alternate soln. once I'm done revising :O [been 2 yrs since I've touched the topic]
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A question for a game (Factorio)
I need to produce 16 (A) items every 21 seconds, they need a material that takes 15s to craft, how many crafters do I need at the same time to supply the (A) items
i feel stupid ngl
the key to these questions is to make the timeframe the same
for example by considering the lcm
(least common multiple)
thanks for clarifying
what is the lcm of 21 and 15?
3?
thats the gcd, greatest common divisor
105?
yes
so, how many items do you need to produce in 105 seconds?
how many materials do you need?
how many do you make from one crafter in 105 seconds?
not quite. you probably mean the correct thing tho
you said you need to produce 16 items in 21 seconds, so thats how many in 105 ?
if you need 16 in 21 seconds, then you need 80=5*16 in 105 seconds
no like I meant I produce 5 every 105
ok we are clearly talking about different things
I can only go by your initial numbers
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how would we show f is into
oh wait is it that f is always positive in the given domain
it's quicker to note f(x) is an even function ;3
note the numerator is x^2-4 as well, and this has two zeros that are in the domain of the function
wtf is an into function 
injective
and many one into?
not injective
oh wait
one-one onto means injective and surjective?
and many one into means not injective?
im tired
that is absurd notation
into alone also means injective?
onto is surjective
that one i know
one one is injective
that just proves injectivity tho?
yes
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$\sum_{i=1}^{n} i^4$
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yes
How
,w expand 1/5 (x + 1/2)^5 - 1/5 (x - 1/2)^5 - 1/6 (x + 1/2)^3 + 1/6 (x - 1/2)^3 + 7/240
$U_i = i^4, U_{i-1} = (i-1)^4$
,w integrate x
,w integrate Li_2(x)
,w integrate li(x)
?
,, U_i = \f 15 \parens [\bigg] {i + \f12}^5 - \f 16 \parens [\bigg] {i + \f12}^3 + \f 7 {240} \parens [\bigg] {i + \f12}
use this
u literally explained nothing
but thanks for trying
answer isn't what I need
its how I get to it
well you can construct it
construct?
just go term by term
like
look at the first term
,w expand 1/5 (i + 1/2)^5 - 1/5 (i - 1/2)^5
yeah but how'd u get that
,w -1/6 (i + 1/2)^3 + 1/6 (i - 1/2)^3
how'd u get that function
well you need i^4
yes
so
god wolfram is using the imaginary unit
Hello is this occupied?
bruh yes its occupied
Yes
so you see here
,w expand (k+1)^5
when you take a difference of 5th powers you get 5k^4
u have a lot of things u dont need here
yes
which is why i didn't do +1
i did +1/2 -1/2
it makes a lot of the terms go away
you re-centre on 0
you have to divide by 5 to get rid of the 5 coefficient on the k^4
,w expand (k+0.5)^5
,w expand (k+1/2)^5 - (k-1/2)^5
see how the difference has less extra stuff
We telescope $(n + 1)^5 - n^5 = 5n^4 + 10n^3 + 10n^2 + 5n + 1$ to figure summation $n^4$, given summation $n^3, n^2, n$. So you could plug the rest and get your desired closed form for sum $n^4$. But yes, $(n+1/2)^5 - (n-1/2)^5$ is smart
so then you construct more terms
5k²/2
Arya
wait how bout this
,w expand 1/5((k+1/2)^5 - (k-1/2)^5)
,w expand (k+1)^5 - (k-1)^5
we need to rid the k^2/2 term
THATS A LOT CLEANER
then it's not quite telescoping but okay that's fine
you get difference of 2 between terms
yeah but u still get it right
you don't get direct cancellation between adjacent terms
yeah
sure
we can work with that
so we should do 1/10 of that
why not, and why does the other one have direct cancelation
,w expand 1/10((k+1)^5 - (k-1)^5)
because k^4 doesn't have a coefficent?
no
because when you have a telescoping series it's like
,, \sum (u_k - u_{k-1})
so the terms are like [ u_1 - u_0 + u_2 - u_1 + u_3 - u_2 + \dotsb ]
and here you get direct cancellation between adjacent terms
ik that
but how do you recognize the direct cancellation
like the function that you gave
well
i'm suggesting to do like
u'll suggest a course 😭
(k + 1/2)^2 - (k - 1/2)^2
k + 1/2 and k - 1/2 differ by 1
k + 1 and k - 1 differ by 2
yes
when you differ by 1 is when telescoping happens
i mean you can still telescope when it's a difference of 2
it's just not as nice
like it's doable
$\sum_{n=1}^{2025} n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)(n+5)$
okay but like again this will shift only by 1
actually no will it
here
,, \sum_{n=1}^{2025} n(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)(n+5)
lowercase s
kronium_
yes
okay so this is like
a long one
you need to write out a hell of a lotta terms
6?
when u expand
but doable
well
only after 6 terms
no
after the first time
actually
from the second term onwards
u get cancellation
are you sure
why
okay i think it might work
look
i'm just checking it in my head
yes
okay
these numbers will get large quick
Hi I am new
wait no i messed up
hmm
sure
ok so
,w expand C(n+7,7) - C(n+6,7)
wolfram is so bad
I THOUGHT'D WE'D GET CANCELLATION
no you have to like
write it differently
this is annoying to type on a phone
,w simplify (n + 7)(n + 6)(n + 5)(n + 4)(n + 3)(n + 2)(n + 1) - (n + 6)(n + 5)(n + 4)(n + 3)(n + 2)(n + 1)n
wait
okay this is just
jesus
there
you do that thing
so it's a shift by 1
if you like
do the algebra properly
yes
(x+6) - (x-1) = 7
and you take the difference of those two
you can see it here
there's two things and you take their difference
the function multiplied by (x+6) is called p(x)
and you get your function
the function we want is p(x) - q(x)
going from p to q
and q(x) = p(x-1)
SEE
but because of the shift by 1
so theres cancellatiion
by 7
you even wrote it here
YES BUT HOW DO U KNOW THE SHIFT
without evaluating the TERMS
well
I was told the answer
the factors of p are like
x up to (x+7)
and the factors of q are (x-1) up to (x+6)
so you can see the factors of q are the factors of p shifted down by 1
that's why you get the equation q(x) = p(x - 1)
and my point before is that it's the same for (k + 1/2) and (k - 1/2)
you shift by 1
yes
,w expand (k+1)^5 - (k-1)^5
okay now the 5th powers cancel
sure
,w expand (k+ 1/2)^5 - (k - 1/2)^5
0?
where about
1k^4
yes
,w expand 1/5((k+ 1/2)^5 - (k - 1/2)^5)
the 5 comes from the fact that we used 5th powers
and binomial theorem
okay speak
we will keep putting on terms
to cancel them
so for example
,w expand (k+1/2)^3 - (k-1/2)^3
look
we get a k^2 here right
so if we subtract off the right amount of this from the previous terms
we can get rid of the k^2/2
yes
,w expand 1/5((k+ 1/2)^5 - (k - 1/2)^5) - 1/6((k + 1/2)^3 - (k - 1/2)^3)
wait
okay waiting
ok
$\sum_{i=1}^{n} i^4 = \frac{1}{5} \sum_{i=1}^{n} (i+\frac{1}{2})^5 - (i-\frac{1}{5})^5 \quad - \frac{1}{2} \sum_{i=1}^{n} i^2 \quad - n/80$
ayo
and make another summation to evalutate that k²/2
and then subtract that from the original
and do the same for the constant
that's what this correction term is essentially doing
i think that's probably a 1/2 not a 1/10
well
we are dividing the original equation by a 5 along with that right
cuz
its
(1/5) (k + 0.5)^5 - (k-0.5)^5
it's already divided
no
I kept the constants different
the first 1/5 is only for that specific sum
not distributed
agreed?
kronium_
if you want to just sum the i^2 sum by itself you can
the usual
(i)(i+1)(2i+1)/6
like
maybe not?
we are expected to memorize the quadratic equation but not the cubic equation
its not like you'll spend forever rederiving it
same way what about i^4
k'
but like
if you use it a couple times
i'm sure it'll stick in your head
can't be that hard to remember
k
alright thx
i got maths exam tmrw
i gotta study for it
and this is not even taught in school this year
ok
hahaha 🤡
ok
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not just you
u wanna see our question paper?
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hello
if AUB={1,2,3,4,5} and A∩B ={3} where A= {1,3,x} find the possible values of x in set A
x can be 2,4,5 right?
my ans key only shows 4 or 5
um, the whole question seems inconsistent
I meant intersection for the 2nd one
ah
sorry
yeh, the values don't need to be ordered. its possible for x to be 2
solution: since A Union B includes all elements 1,2,3,4,5 , the missing element must be covered by B and any choice of x. For A={1,3,x} , the values of x could be 4 or 5 for AUB to cover all required elements
that's the explanation
must be a typo then
I think they won't consider it bcz 3>2
that seems the only reason to include 4 and 5 and not 2
but order doesn't matter ?
ye ik
it's still typo anyways
the question should explictely state that order matters or something
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if i have three vectors $$ l_i i cap, m_i j cap , n_i k cap, i = 1,2,3$$ they are all mutually perpendicular unit vectors
lakshya
@earnest heath Has your question been resolved?
what
?
i cap j cap k cap
how u resemble vectors
in x y and z
axis
$$i^{}$$
lakshya
$i^{\wedge}$
lakshya
idk whateer
$\hat{\textbf{\j}}$
mmmm7
i don't even understand your question lol
prove that lines with direction ratios $$l_1,l_2,l_3; m_1,m_2,m_3 ; l_3,m_3,n_3 $$are also mutually perpendicular
begin with what you already know, right down all the axioms you are aware of
also prove that those direction ratios are direction cosines...
you could prove it by proving the angle between them to be 90deg
yes how to
look up the formula for finding the angle
...
if you know the formula, it's clear it can't be done with the formula alone... anyway the formula is $$ cos(\theta) = l_1.l_2+m_1.m_2+n_1.n_2 $$ where $$l_1,l_2...$$ are direction cosines
lakshya
that's not the formula
yes it is
