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potent lotusBOT
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A dense set

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How does this proof look

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We wish to proceed via induction
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Base case : $1^2=1^3$
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Inductive hypothesis : $(\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^2 = (\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^3$
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We wish to prove this implies that $(\sum_{i=1}^{n+1}i)^2 = \sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i^3$
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We start by adding $(n+1)^3$ to both sides
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This gives us
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$(\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^2 + (n+1)^3 = \sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i^3$
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Expanding the left hand side we get
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$ \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4} + (n+1)^3 = \frac{(n+1)^2(n^2+4n+4)}{4} = (\frac{ (n+1)(n+2)}{4})^2 = (\sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i)^2 =\sum_{i=1}^{n} i^3$

potent lotusBOT
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A dense set

blazing coyote
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Is this proof fine?

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Looks good to me

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mossy wigeon
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the answer can only be n=1 here right

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old plume
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Which formula did you use?

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old plume
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Then your answer would be correct if there is no calculation mistake

mossy wigeon
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3 5 or 6

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when n_1 literally cant be smaller than n_2

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Did you calculate it?
AI's answer can't be trusted

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sonic python
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$\int_0^1 \sqrt{\sum_{i=1}^n (x_i+t(y_i-x_i)-P_i)^2}dt$, solution, Wolfram can't?

fathom shuttle
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what?

sonic python
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It is a formula, did it not render?

fathom shuttle
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whats the context

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also no dx, dt, or dy

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integrating with respect to what variable

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what is this for anyway

potent lotusBOT
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maybeJosiah

fathom shuttle
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i dont think this has a nice clean solution

sonic python
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This is for average of all distances for a line from a point. X E.

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If it HAS a solution I am happy. X E.

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What would Taylor series be?

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Or any other method?

fathom shuttle
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how did you come up with that formula

sonic python
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distance squared equals sum of dimension changes each squared. X E.

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Before P is a point and P is point to compare with. X E.

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Iterate over line all points by t. X E.

potent igloo
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what is X E?

fathom shuttle
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All as per one might be maybe or might not be maybe, maybe or maybe not, maybe

sonic python
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Read bio. X E.

fathom shuttle
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can you explain what that means

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because it looks like word salad to me

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i dont see why you need a sum and an integral

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the line is a line not a parametric curve right?

sonic python
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It is a not lying thing, whatever precedes, overall true. X E.

sonic python
fathom shuttle
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ok

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so you can describe your point as (x_0,y_0)

sonic python
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It is 3d+ so I need a sum. X E.

fathom shuttle
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oh ok i see

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so you can describe your point as $(x_0,y_0,z_0)$ right

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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average distance is infinite

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i just relized

sonic python
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And w etc. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok

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do you just want it for a short segment of a line?

sonic python
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Yes. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok

sonic python
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And I don't want point by point. X E.

fathom shuttle
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your idea isnt too bad, but we have to fix it a little

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do you know what your start and endpoints are?

sonic python
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Also, divide result by distance of line points. X E.

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Yes. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok thats good

sonic python
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And I also know other point to compare with. X E.

fathom shuttle
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lets say we have our starts at $(x_1,y_1,z_1,...)$ and ends at $(x_2,y_2,z_2)$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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the point can be $(x_P,y_P,z_P,...)$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

sonic python
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You need square root in whatever to use. X E.

fathom shuttle
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so our line can be written as $(x_1+t(x_2-x_1),y_1+t(y_2-y_1),...)$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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this way the line starts at t=0 and ends at t=1 like you did

sonic python
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Okay. X E.

fathom shuttle
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good

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now we can do our distance formula

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for an arbitrary point on the line we get $\sqrt{(x_1+t(x_2-x_1)-x_P)^2+...}$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

sonic python
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Basically what I started with. X E.

fathom shuttle
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yeah

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you were pretty close, but the notation was just wonky

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maybe thats just me

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either way, what we can do is expand

sonic python
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Does area of triangle of from point to line relate?

fathom shuttle
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$\sqrt{(x_1-x_P)^2+2(x_2-x_1)t+(x_2-x_1)^2t^2+...}$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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you can imagine two triangles with the same base and height, but one of the points makes it isosceles and one makes it extremely obtuse

sonic python
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I am trying to compare which is drawn before, area of a triangle per angles seems like it should relate. X E.

fathom shuttle
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e.g. this

sonic python
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This is for a graphics app. X E.

fathom shuttle
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are you familiar with law of sines?

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ok lets step back

sonic python
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AC is line, B to compare it with. X E.

fathom shuttle
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what is your original goal

fathom shuttle
sonic python
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To have a consistent draw order based on distances for a graphics engine. X E.

fathom shuttle
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what are you trying to do with this?

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consistent as in?

sonic python
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I am comparing with polygons, lines, and points. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok but what is the draw order

sonic python
fathom shuttle
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arent there already algorithms for this?

sonic python
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They are all by point. X E.

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I am not doing that. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok

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i dont know how finding average distance will help

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since shapes might cross each other or only partly obscure shapes

sonic python
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I would cut to parts either entirely in front or behind. X E.

fathom shuttle
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im not so sure

sonic python
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No need to argue over that though. X E.

fathom shuttle
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ok well

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finishing off what we started earlier, the formula would be $$\frac{\int_0^1\sqrt{\sum_{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)p)^2+2\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)_2)((var_i)_1-(var_i)p)t+\sqrt{\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)2)^2}dt}}{\sqrt{\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)_2)^2}}$$

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hah nice

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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the integral is of the form $\int\sqrt{a+bt+ct^2}dt$

potent lotusBOT
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me when the gbf

fathom shuttle
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i dont know if that has a proper integral

sonic python
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Correct. X E.

fathom shuttle
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i think youre kinda out of luck here

bronze adder
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very annoying one though

sonic python
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Area of triangle helps. X E.

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So how to do it?

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What X about?

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So it is unsolvable?

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What about sqrt(area of triangle of line and point to compare with)?

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I guess I will test that. X E.

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Maybe also angles help. X E.

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Well anyway, not like I expect you to know now. X E.

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finite dagger
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i need help understanding how to solve this

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can anyone help? i know its simple

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i havent learned this yet

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west ermine
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do eigenvalues consist of adding up or substracting up the diagonals, im confused

glass heart
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neither

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the trace is the sum of the eigenvalues of the matrix if that's what you mean

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(the trace being the sum of the diagonal elements)

west ermine
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I don’t get it

west ermine
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On where the diagonal I don’t understand what happens

glass heart
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yes context please

west ermine
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Here the context is a perfect economy where it’s 1

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Ax=1x

west ermine
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But in some cases I see that we - the eigen values

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Minus the eigen values *

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That’s what I mean by adding and subtracting

glass heart
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Ax=1x is equivalent to (A-I)x=0 where I is the identity matrix

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so A-I is A but 1 subtracted on the diagonal

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which what is usually done

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here they did it the other way around

west ermine
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but in this case they added it

glass heart
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(I-A)x=0

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note that they also flipped all the other signs

west ermine
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yes because they shifted everything to the other side of the equality

west ermine
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and give the same answer

glass heart
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whether you solve (A-I)x=0 or (I-A)x=0 does not matter

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its equivalent

west ermine
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so youre telling me that i can do this

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wait

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this is the equivalent

west ermine
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etc

glass heart
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I dont know why you have (450,50,4) on the other side

glass heart
west ermine
glass heart
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if there is another vector on the other side then you also have to flip the signs of that

west ermine
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but those are the resultants

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vector resultant

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not sure if thats how we say it in english

glass heart
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you want to solve x=Ax+y where y=(450,50,4)

west ermine
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yes

glass heart
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you can either do that as (I-A)x=y which is what they have done

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or (A-I)x=-y

west ermine
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(-450,-50,-4)

glass heart
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yes

west ermine
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I see

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okay i understand

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ty

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so in all cases where there is an equality

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or a problem similar to this i should always shift it like this (A-I)x=-y or the other way

glass heart
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its just how you would solve equations with numbers

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x=ax+y you would solve either with (1-a)x=y or (a-1)x=-y

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kk

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spark coyote
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Did I do this right, I did the beginning in my head

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faiyrose

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brave moss
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if 3 out of 25 students are left handed, and there are 1050 students, how many possible could be left handed.

i did 3+25=28

1050 / 28 = 37,5

3 * 37,5 = 112,5

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brave moss
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because ratio 3:25

runic jewel
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But it’s 3 out of 25

brave moss
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yes if we have 25 students

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in a group

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at least 3 of them are left handed

runic jewel
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Right

brave moss
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oh yeah

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we need to now expand the group to 1050

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so 1050 divided by 25

runic jewel
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Yep

brave moss
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is

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42

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and so with 3

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expand that by 3

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= 126

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omg so easy

runic jewel
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Correct

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stone roost
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can length AB be found out with this data?
BD or AD are not given, E or C are not middle point

remote mural
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mb

stone roost
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can similar triangles be used in this way?
AB/EC = AD/CD

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base ratio= hypotenuse ratio

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wait, but that won't help anything

fringe swan
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why think deeply anyway

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js do it the normal route

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oh wait no mb

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im thinking it wrong

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i actually need to find speed, I have time to cover length AB

wooden socket
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what is written on the distances?

stone roost
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same

wooden socket
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and on the upper row of the table?

stone roost
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when going and coming, distance is same (trip1 trip2) but going takes double time than coming. so I need to find ratio of speed of both trips

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I tried doing
= 180 (10-0) + 319 (15 - 10) + ... 4151 (125 - 62)
to get 313226

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but it was wrong what did I miss

unkempt drift
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so you need to round that

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to the right number of sig figs

wheat wyvern
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Yes, but it's an early estimate

unkempt drift
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I'd say 3 sig figs

wheat wyvern
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I don't think so cause I multiplied each one

unkempt drift
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no I'm saying to round your answer 313226 to 3 sf

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at least try it

wheat wyvern
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it says enter an exact number

unkempt drift
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oh okay

wheat wyvern
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but it didn't like 313000 also

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:(

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they wanted me to ignore the last data

unkempt drift
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ohhhh

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right yeah I totally missed that
yes cause you are only doing it to 62s

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so the last data point for 125s is irrelevant

wheat wyvern
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why tell me useless data sully

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yeah

unkempt drift
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read the question moment I guess

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thank you though

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tulip herald
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the continued fraction x=<1,1,1,1,...> should be clearly positive and we have that $x=1+1/x$, thus $x$ is a solution to $x^2-x-1=0$

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somethingwrong

tulip herald
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solving the quadratic equation then gives us $x=\frac{1\pm \sqrt{5}}{2}$

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somethingwrong

tulip herald
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and so the solution must be the positive root but is there anyway to to do without referring back to the original expression?

vagrant oak
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x = 1 + 1/x has 2 sols

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so you have to refer to the original expression

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to eliminate one

viscid zenith
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golden ratio mentioned

tulip herald
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ah okay wait, its not a very smart question now that i think about it oops, x=1+1/x is just an equation that the continued fraction satisfies, doesn't imply that the solutions must be related to the continued fraction

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Would the relative acceleration of the block m w.r.t. to the surface it's touching (trolley 1) not be a_1 - a_2?

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?

remote mural
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mental tendon
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How did this guy get rid of ln

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drifting seal
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$\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\ln(\tan 7x)}{\ln(\tan 3x)}$

potent lotusBOT
drifting seal
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this?

mental tendon
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yes

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i feel like what he did is wrong

drifting seal
mental tendon
drifting seal
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🤔

mental tendon
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idk how he got rid of ln

drifting seal
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first, please tell them to write clearer and not write 7s like that

mental tendon
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and idk where the -1 cmae from

drifting seal
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oh wait

mental tendon
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is it lhopital

drifting seal
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yea i’d just use lhopital here you have inf/inf

mental tendon
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ok

drifting seal
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$\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{\frac{7\sec^2 7x}{\tan 7x}}{\frac{3\sec^2 3x}{\tan 3x}}$

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mental tendon
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so i got 7cos(3x)sin(3x)/3cos(7x)sin(7x)

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do i lhopital again

drifting seal
drifting seal
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split the limit

mental tendon
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how do i do that

drifting seal
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$\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{7\cos 3x}{3\cos 7x} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\sin 3x}{\sin 7x}$

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drifting seal
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the left limit is just substitution

mental tendon
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oh

drifting seal
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and the right limit is a common trig limit

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$\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin ax}{\sin bx} = \frac{a}{b}$

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drifting seal
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you can use lhopital to verify that

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if you’d like

mental tendon
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does it matter if its 0+ or 0-

drifting seal
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no

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because for the limit to exist in the first place the right hand and left hand limits have to be equal

mental tendon
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ok

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then it would just be 1

drifting seal
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yea (7/3)(3/7) = 1

mental tendon
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ok

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thank u so much

drifting seal
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you’re welcome

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Is this correct

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Can someone help me start this?

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see if you can find a formula involving dy/dx

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Should I treat c as a constant or make it 1/2rootc

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The above problem

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I found dy/dx

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But I'm not sure what to do next

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# smoky igloo I found dy/dx

After that , just write the equation in point of contact form
Let's take ( x1 , y1 ) as point of contact of tangent
From the equation calculate x and y intercept
Add them up and it should be solvable using the first equation

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x = 0 or y = 0

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Why tho

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$y'=3cx^2+e^x$
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A dense set

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Is there a formula to count the number of integers by skipping certain steps

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For example let a and b be any 2 integers
b>a

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Number of integers in [a,b]=b-a+1

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That's if I skip only one step

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Now let a=2 b=6

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Now if I skip 2 steps in [a,b] we have 2,4,6 so 3 numbers

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Any formula or a good way to visualise would be appreciated

fringe swan
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u take the higher bound and divide it by 2

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if its even

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if its odd tho, add one then divide it by 2

ocean bough
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What's a bound

fringe swan
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say we have thenfollowing inequality: a < b

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a is considered the lower bound of the inequality

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and b is the higher bound

ocean bough
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Hmm

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But what if we're skipping say 19 steps

fringe swan
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now this is between us as a formula, tho its not an internationally recognized one

fringe swan
ocean bough
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Like what if a=-183 and b= 298 and we are skipping 19 steps

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Find number of integers in (a,b)

fringe swan
ocean bough
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Yeah

fringe swan
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ill see if i can find smt

ocean bough
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My idea is to form arithmetic sequence

fringe swan
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i mean

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thats what i tried going for

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its the obvious way

ocean bough
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And find an < b

fringe swan
ocean bough
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Hmm

fringe swan
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should work

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i wonder if there is a way with euclidean division

ocean bough
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What's Euclidean division

fringe swan
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for all a,b are natural numbers (b≠0)

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there exists (q,r) couple of natural numbers verifying:

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a = bq + r

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0 =< r < b

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this is the definition in natural numbers tho

ocean bough
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Division theorem

fringe swan
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well, its euclidean division too ig

ocean bough
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Oh

fringe swan
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euclid found it

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OH I FOUND IT

ocean bough
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Some things are so fundamental that I forget it had to be discovered

fringe swan
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@ocean bough

ocean bough
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Yes?

fringe swan
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just do b - a

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and divide it by ur 19

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u get the answer

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i knew some arithmetic had to be involved

ocean bough
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Let's test

fringe swan
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depends how u round it up

ocean bough
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(2,4) skipping 2

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Answer should be 0

fringe swan
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oh

ocean bough
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But we get 1

fringe swan
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well thats a bummer

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it probably has to do with open/closed intervals

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wait what it is right

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there is an integer between 2 and 4

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its 3

ocean bough
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But we are skipping 2

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2 then 4

fringe swan
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2 is not included

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so u cant start from 2

ocean bough
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2 and 4 not included

fringe swan
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this is a game of definitions now

fringe swan
ocean bough
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I mean

fringe swan
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u slhave to start from the first integer

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in that set

ocean bough
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We start from 2 regardless it's included or not

fringe swan
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are u telling me there exists an integer in (3 ,4)

ocean bough
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No

fringe swan
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then u frankly cant start from 3

ocean bough
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Ok I'm assuming your question is (3,4) right? Skipping 1

fringe swan
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its b >= a to be precise

ocean bough
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Ok so we have we move from 3 to 4 but we reject 3 and 4 it is open interval

fringe swan
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go on

ocean bough
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That's it

fringe swan
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so like

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was this an argument or ur trying to understand me

ocean bough
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Yeah (3,4) is [3,4]-{3,4}

fringe swan
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true

ocean bough
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You would start from 3 if it were closed interval, yeah?

fringe swan
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yes

ocean bough
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That's what I was trying to say

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So we start from a regardless

fringe swan
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wait wut

ocean bough
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a as in (a,b)

fringe swan
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so like

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ur with me here?

ocean bough
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There is a big misunderstanding

ocean bough
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We started from 2 but we have to remove it later

fringe swan
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in ur (2,4)?

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wait

ocean bough
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Yes

fringe swan
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u said ur skipping 1 in this interval or 2?

ocean bough
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2

fringe swan
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oh 2

ocean bough
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Yes

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I'm pretty sure 'skip' isn't the right term

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But thanks for understanding

fringe swan
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yeah yeah its alright bud

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though i found a problem

ocean bough
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Hmm?

fringe swan
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skipping 1 in (2,4)

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using my method u get 2

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so this means theres some conditions

ocean bough
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Your method?

fringe swan
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the division thing

ocean bough
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Yeah we should get 1

fringe swan
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yeah so there are some conditions non verified

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my method sucks too

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what if u have [- 2 + sqrt(17) , pi + 12] this method would be absolute horror

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fringe swan
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safe to say, js use arithmetic sequence method

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to avoid issues

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i guess the method i used is certain to be correct if the interval is closed

fringe swan
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1

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going easy

ocean bough
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Hold on

fringe swan
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find as many integers there are

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in the interval

ocean bough
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I think it's possible

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For one

fringe swan
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might have to rely on rounding up

ocean bough
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Yeah

fringe swan
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so

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would all this

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fussin

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answer u?

ocean bough
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If a or b is negative we apply greatest integer function

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Otherwise smallest integers function

fringe swan
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what r u heading for here?

ocean bough
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You said if a or b is decimal

fringe swan
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yes

ocean bough
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Pi+12 or something

fringe swan
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yds

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yes

ocean bough
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Yeah then we apply greatest integer function for positive

fringe swan
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oh wait i kept thinking

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GCD

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im sorry

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greatest function wouldnt work

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only works for the higher/upper bound

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but the lower bound no

ocean bough
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Oh ok

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How about this

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Always smallest integer function for lower bound

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Greatest for higher bound

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That should work

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[-2.1 ,3.1]

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Then we get [-2,3]

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So 6

fringe swan
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greatest integer for lower bound

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smallest integer for upper bound

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cause we wanna keep everything in the interval

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dont get them out of it

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and this technique

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suprisingly works

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im impressed damn

ocean bough
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When I mean greatest integer I mean greatest integer LESS than or equal to that number

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That's how it is in my country

fringe swan
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no u have a point

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im wrong here

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i forgot the definition

ocean bough
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👍

fringe swan
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yeah u resolved it bud

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im amazed

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i didnt think of it

ocean bough
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I was wondering all this because I was amazed that there were formulae for counting numbers

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10/10 would recommend

fringe swan
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which formula?

fringe swan
ocean bough
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[a,b] has b-a+1 integers
(a,b] or [a,b) Has b-a integers
( a,b) Has b-a -1 integers

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All these are for skipping 1

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Made my life easier

fringe swan
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ohhh

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yeah they do

ocean bough
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I got greedy and I was wondering for skipping 2 or more hehe

fringe swan
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there is no formula

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so u js have to prove it

ocean bough
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I guess I'll never need it, if I do, I'll use arithmetic mean

fringe swan
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oh yeah

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definetly

ocean bough
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We can solve for an < b

fringe swan
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yes

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ur method works

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i verified it

ocean bough
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Ok wait

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What

fringe swan
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what what

ocean bough
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Let's do arithmetic mean

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(a,b)

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So a+(n-1)d<b

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N is an integer

fringe swan
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woah woah

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aye

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a is not included

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dont start with it

ocean bough
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?

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Nth term of an ap is a+(n-1)d

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I wrote it as an

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an=a+(n-1)d

fringe swan
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u used a

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ur saying a is the first term?

ocean bough
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It should be the first term

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Because we are starting with a

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But we will -1

fringe swan
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but a is excluded

ocean bough
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Yeah

fringe swan
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ok ill let u finish

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well

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unless u have nothing to finish

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sparkling?

ocean bough
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Ok

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So we get for (a,b)

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Ok lets start again shall we?

fringe swan
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as u please

ocean bough
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(a,b)

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We're skipping 1

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so d= 1

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An=a+(n-1)d= a+n-1

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And An<b

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a+n-1<b

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n<b-a+1

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Now n is the maximum number of terms between b and a

fringe swan
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yes

ocean bough
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So n should be the closest integer to b-a+1

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But not greater

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(assuming b and a are integers)

fringe swan
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well ur reasoning is correct

ocean bough
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So the closest number to that is b-a

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And finally we remove 1

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b-a-1

fringe swan
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uh

ocean bough
fringe swan
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oh wait ur demonstrating the formulas u had?

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ohhh

ocean bough
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That's b-a

fringe swan
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i was lost

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no no

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i got it

ocean bough
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Yeah

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So now assuming b-a is not integral

fringe swan
ocean bough
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Not an integer

fringe swan
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oh

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okay

ocean bough
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We just apply greatest integer function to (b-a)

fringe swan
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sure

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sounds right

ocean bough
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(-pi, pi)

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Should get 5

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No

fringe swan
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yes

ocean bough
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6

fringe swan
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what

ocean bough
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-3 included

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3 also included

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Hmm

fringe swan
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then....

ocean bough
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So 7 😭

fringe swan
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its 7

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LMAO

ocean bough
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Yeah

fringe swan
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YOOO

ocean bough
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Let's just apply formula and check

fringe swan
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smts not right

ocean bough
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Yeah we get 6 in formula

fringe swan
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well actually

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the formula works for a,b are integers

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for our case, greatest integer(a) - smallest integer(b) + 1

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is the way to go

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because they become included

ocean bough
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Yeah...

fringe swan
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so it turns into

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closed interval

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so we go back to the other formula

ocean bough
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-1

fringe swan
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+1

ocean bough
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For open it's -1

fringe swan
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thats for open

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when the bounds

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are integers

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in our case, (a,b) where a and b are irrational

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the amount of integers in (-pi, pi) is the same as the amlunt of integers in [-3, 3]

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we turned it closed, u see?

ocean bough
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Ohhh

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Correct

fringe swan
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soooo

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3 -(-3) + 1

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is 7

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yep

ocean bough
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I think it's best not to just try to find a formula for everything 😭

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Some things we have to do in steps

fringe swan
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no this one has a formula actually

ocean bough
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And do what we know

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Like we did for (-pi,pi)

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We converted it into a problem we know

fringe swan
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to find the amount of integers in (a,b) where a and b are not integers, we do greatest integer(b) - smallest integer(a) + 1

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this is actually a formula

ocean bough
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Let me check it

fringe swan
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works for (a,b) or [a,b) or (a, b] or [a,b]

ocean bough
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Oh

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Yeah

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Makes total sense

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As it becomes some sort of closed bracket problem

fringe swan
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yuppers

ocean bough
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is this all for ur questions?

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Yeah, thanks a ton, Youssef

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no needa mention it bud

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drowsy sand
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guys please help its 1am and i have a test tomorrow

ocean bough
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Translate?

drowsy sand
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almost everything inside the brackets translated wrongly

ocean bough
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Cap means 'and' right?

drowsy sand
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where do you see cap

ocean bough
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Upside down V

drowsy sand
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ahh

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yeah

ocean bough
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What does Y|8 even mean

drowsy sand
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thats what i dont know

ocean bough
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Y such that 8?

drowsy sand
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i have no clue tbh

ocean bough
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Is this a homework question or you're practicing?

drowsy sand
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practice

ocean bough
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For the test

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Okay

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Wait

drowsy sand
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i was supposed to have the test a long time ago but some kids were sending bomb threats to school and its been delayed till tomorrow

ocean bough
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Kids? That's crazy

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Anyways

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,rotate

potent lotusBOT
ocean bough
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Does this make sense?

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A is a subset of P

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So AUP is P

drowsy sand
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wait

ocean bough
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A intersection P is P

drowsy sand
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yeah thats right

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but how to get b

ocean bough
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I have no idea, you better worry about other questions

drowsy sand
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i went through everything else

ocean bough
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You ought to ask your teacher before the test

drowsy sand
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nah not possible

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is this right

carmine sorrel
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x|8 means x divides 8

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so x is a factor of 8

drowsy sand
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so

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wait

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1, 2, 4, 8,

ocean bough
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Then B= {1,2,4,8}

drowsy sand
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yeah

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thanks

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also i forgot how to do this

ocean bough
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B\A is difference?

drowsy sand
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what does 'x' do

ocean bough
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Cross product I would assume

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That's how it is usually in sets

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Doesn't make much sense tho

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for example A={a,b,c}, B={1,2}
AxB={(a,1), (a,2), (b,1), (b,2), (c,1), (c,2)}

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ok im set for my test tomorrow

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A bag contains 6 red and 4 green marbles. Three are drawn randomly without replacement. What is the probability that the third is green given that at least one of the first two is green?

Cases (GRG, RGG, GGG)

((4/10)(6/9)(3/8)) + ((6/10)(4/9)(3/8)) + ((4/10)(3/9)(2/8))

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anyone?

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draw a tree diagram

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the highlighted ones r the good cases

mental tendon
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yes

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for each case

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case of GRG
((4/10)(6/9)(3/8))

case of RGG
((6/10)(4/9)(3/8))

case of GGG
((4/10)(3/9)(2/8))

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yes

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i get 7/30

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but thats not the correct answer

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its 7/20

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hint: y = 1/x <=> x y = k n (mod n)

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The inverse of 3 (mod m) is the number x such that 3x = km for some interger k.

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what have you tried?

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yeah it bascially jumps at you

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something times 3 is 1 more than some multiple of 6n+2

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shuba misspoke

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solve for a

I cant get a clear answer online

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Factor a

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hello guys

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lets say i have a bunch of points on a cartesian plane

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and together those points look like a quadratic

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how can i get the equation for this curve

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like a lot

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okay is using technology fine then?

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like you can find the best-fit quadratic on Desmos

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those points won't fit perfectly into a quadratic equation

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yes

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here's an example

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of course your case is probably messier

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are there any other ways of doing this

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without using technology

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crap

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i'm working on a math project which is modelling the trajectory of tennis serves

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okay then

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and fit a unique quadratic between these three points

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i don't get it

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you don't get how to do that?

whole shuttle
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wdym three points

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3 (x, y) values

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do they have to be consecutive

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or can they just be three random ponts

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ok

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yeah like you should graph your points first

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look at the graph and choose 3 points that look like they will fit well

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what should i do after this

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you will get 3 linear equations in a, b, c

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whats the next step

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hang on

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oh wait

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never mind

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and how can i turn this into a quadratic

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oh right

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here are some examples

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so i just solve a b and c with the simultaneous equation

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is there a name for this method?

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tons of places do maths investigations and so a lot of people will have done an investigation on quadratics

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what about cubics

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oh this is a special case of Lagrange interpolation

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works for all polynomials

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oooohhhh

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yeah i get it

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for y = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d

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then for a degree n polynomial it's (n + 1) points

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you get the idea

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yep

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can i use this method for this curve?

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rn i'm using a piecewise function

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yeah cause it's piecewise

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ok

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it can't be expressed as a single polynomial cause of the sharp turning point

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ok

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is there a reason they did it in this order? multiplying the middle and second last one first?

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i multiplied the first two, then multiplied that by the last one

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got a diferent answer but not sure if i messed something up or if i'm just missing something

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the order shouldn't matter

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so at least one of you have made a mistake

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