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How does this proof look
We wish to proceed via induction
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Base case : $1^2=1^3$
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Inductive hypothesis : $(\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^2 = (\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^3$
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We wish to prove this implies that $(\sum_{i=1}^{n+1}i)^2 = \sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i^3$
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We start by adding $(n+1)^3$ to both sides
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This gives us
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$(\sum_{i=1}^{n}i)^2 + (n+1)^3 = \sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i^3$
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Expanding the left hand side we get
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$ \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4} + (n+1)^3 = \frac{(n+1)^2(n^2+4n+4)}{4} = (\frac{ (n+1)(n+2)}{4})^2 = (\sum_{i=1}^{n+1} i)^2 =\sum_{i=1}^{n} i^3$
A dense set
Is this proof fine?
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Looks good to me
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the answer can only be n=1 here right
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Which formula did you use?
i used this one
Then your answer would be correct if there is no calculation mistake
its just so weird gpt kept giving me answeres like
3 5 or 6
when n_1 literally cant be smaller than n_2
Did you calculate it?
AI's answer can't be trusted
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$\int_0^1 \sqrt{\sum_{i=1}^n (x_i+t(y_i-x_i)-P_i)^2}dt$, solution, Wolfram can't?
what?
It is a formula, did it not render?
whats the context
also no dx, dt, or dy
integrating with respect to what variable
what is this for anyway
maybeJosiah
i dont think this has a nice clean solution
This is for average of all distances for a line from a point. X E.
If it HAS a solution I am happy. X E.
What would Taylor series be?
Or any other method?
how did you come up with that formula
distance squared equals sum of dimension changes each squared. X E.
Before P is a point and P is point to compare with. X E.
Iterate over line all points by t. X E.
what is X E?
All as per one might be maybe or might not be maybe, maybe or maybe not, maybe
Read bio. X E.
can you explain what that means
because it looks like word salad to me
i dont see why you need a sum and an integral
the line is a line not a parametric curve right?
It is a not lying thing, whatever precedes, overall true. X E.
Yes. Straight. X E.
It is 3d+ so I need a sum. X E.
me when the gbf
And w etc. X E.
Yes. X E.
ok
And I don't want point by point. X E.
your idea isnt too bad, but we have to fix it a little
do you know what your start and endpoints are?
ok thats good
And I also know other point to compare with. X E.
lets say we have our starts at $(x_1,y_1,z_1,...)$ and ends at $(x_2,y_2,z_2)$
me when the gbf
the point can be $(x_P,y_P,z_P,...)$
me when the gbf
You need square root in whatever to use. X E.
so our line can be written as $(x_1+t(x_2-x_1),y_1+t(y_2-y_1),...)$
me when the gbf
this way the line starts at t=0 and ends at t=1 like you did
Okay. X E.
good
now we can do our distance formula
for an arbitrary point on the line we get $\sqrt{(x_1+t(x_2-x_1)-x_P)^2+...}$
me when the gbf
Basically what I started with. X E.
yeah
you were pretty close, but the notation was just wonky
maybe thats just me
either way, what we can do is expand
Does area of triangle of from point to line relate?
$\sqrt{(x_1-x_P)^2+2(x_2-x_1)t+(x_2-x_1)^2t^2+...}$
me when the gbf
i dont think so
you can imagine two triangles with the same base and height, but one of the points makes it isosceles and one makes it extremely obtuse
I am trying to compare which is drawn before, area of a triangle per angles seems like it should relate. X E.
e.g. this
This is for a graphics app. X E.
AC is line, B to compare it with. X E.
what is your original goal
actually law of cosines would be more useful, but thats beside the point
To have a consistent draw order based on distances for a graphics engine. X E.
I am comparing with polygons, lines, and points. X E.
ok but what is the draw order
Draw order as in if one obscures other then it is one with lesser distance. X E.
arent there already algorithms for this?
ok
i dont know how finding average distance will help
since shapes might cross each other or only partly obscure shapes
Distance is best and average of all should be most accurate of it. X E.
I would cut to parts either entirely in front or behind. X E.
im not so sure
No need to argue over that though. X E.
ok well
finishing off what we started earlier, the formula would be $$\frac{\int_0^1\sqrt{\sum_{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)p)^2+2\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)_2)((var_i)_1-(var_i)p)t+\sqrt{\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)2)^2}dt}}{\sqrt{\sum{i=1}^n((var_i)_1-(var_i)_2)^2}}$$
hah nice
me when the gbf
the integral is of the form $\int\sqrt{a+bt+ct^2}dt$
me when the gbf
i dont know if that has a proper integral
Correct. X E.
i think youre kinda out of luck here
it does
very annoying one though
Area of triangle helps. X E.
So how to do it?
What X about?
So it is unsolvable?
What about sqrt(area of triangle of line and point to compare with)?
I guess I will test that. X E.
Maybe also angles help. X E.
Well anyway, not like I expect you to know now. X E.
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i need help understanding how to solve this
can anyone help? i know its simple
i havent learned this yet
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do eigenvalues consist of adding up or substracting up the diagonals, im confused
neither
the trace is the sum of the eigenvalues of the matrix if that's what you mean
(the trace being the sum of the diagonal elements)
I don’t get it
Can I give u a context
On where the diagonal I don’t understand what happens
yes context please
But then here they just pushed away all the constants to the left and added the diagonals by 1
But in some cases I see that we - the eigen values
Minus the eigen values *
That’s what I mean by adding and subtracting
Ax=1x is equivalent to (A-I)x=0 where I is the identity matrix
so A-I is A but 1 subtracted on the diagonal
which what is usually done
here they did it the other way around
but in this case they added it
yes because they shifted everything to the other side of the equality
so would this have worked either way
and give the same answer
I dont know why you have (450,50,4) on the other side
those are equivalent
its the context
if there is another vector on the other side then you also have to flip the signs of that
but those are the resultants
vector resultant
not sure if thats how we say it in english
you want to solve x=Ax+y where y=(450,50,4)
yes
yes
I see
okay i understand
ty
so in all cases where there is an equality
or a problem similar to this i should always shift it like this (A-I)x=-y or the other way
its just how you would solve equations with numbers
x=ax+y you would solve either with (1-a)x=y or (a-1)x=-y
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Did I do this right, I did the beginning in my head
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if 3 out of 25 students are left handed, and there are 1050 students, how many possible could be left handed.
i did 3+25=28
1050 / 28 = 37,5
3 * 37,5 = 112,5
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Why 25+3?
because ratio 3:25
But it’s 3 out of 25
Right
Yep
Correct
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can length AB be found out with this data?
BD or AD are not given, E or C are not middle point
mb
can similar triangles be used in this way?
AB/EC = AD/CD
base ratio= hypotenuse ratio
wait, but that won't help anything
why think deeply anyway
js do it the normal route
oh wait no mb
im thinking it wrong
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i actually need to find speed, I have time to cover length AB
what is written on the distances?
same
and on the upper row of the table?
when going and coming, distance is same (trip1 trip2) but going takes double time than coming. so I need to find ratio of speed of both trips
isnt the ratio 1:2 ?
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I tried doing
= 180 (10-0) + 319 (15 - 10) + ... 4151 (125 - 62)
to get 313226
but it was wrong what did I miss
it says approximate using the data
so you need to round that
to the right number of sig figs
Yes, but it's an early estimate
I'd say 3 sig figs
do I need to multiple the total by delta t?
I don't think so cause I multiplied each one
it says enter an exact number
oh okay
ohhhh
right yeah I totally missed that
yes cause you are only doing it to 62s
so the last data point for 125s is irrelevant
read the question moment I guess
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the continued fraction x=<1,1,1,1,...> should be clearly positive and we have that $x=1+1/x$, thus $x$ is a solution to $x^2-x-1=0$
somethingwrong
solving the quadratic equation then gives us $x=\frac{1\pm \sqrt{5}}{2}$
somethingwrong
and so the solution must be the positive root but is there anyway to to do without referring back to the original expression?
x = 1 + 1/x has 2 sols
so you have to refer to the original expression
to eliminate one
golden ratio mentioned
ah okay wait, its not a very smart question now that i think about it oops, x=1+1/x is just an equation that the continued fraction satisfies, doesn't imply that the solutions must be related to the continued fraction
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Would the relative acceleration of the block m w.r.t. to the surface it's touching (trolley 1) not be a_1 - a_2?
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How did this guy get rid of ln
,rccw
$\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\ln(\tan 7x)}{\ln(\tan 3x)}$
knief
this?
is this your work?
this is what my friend did
🤔
idk how he got rid of ln
first, please tell them to write clearer and not write 7s like that
and idk where the -1 cmae from
oh wait
is it lhopital
yea i’d just use lhopital here you have inf/inf
ok
$\lim_{x \to 0+} \frac{\frac{7\sec^2 7x}{\tan 7x}}{\frac{3\sec^2 3x}{\tan 3x}}$
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yea that looks good
how do i do that
$\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{7\cos 3x}{3\cos 7x} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\sin 3x}{\sin 7x}$
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the left limit is just substitution
oh
and the right limit is a common trig limit
$\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin ax}{\sin bx} = \frac{a}{b}$
knief
does it matter if its 0+ or 0-
for this?
no
because for the limit to exist in the first place the right hand and left hand limits have to be equal
yea (7/3)(3/7) = 1
you’re welcome
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Can someone help me start this?
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see if you can find a formula involving dy/dx
Should I treat c as a constant or make it 1/2rootc
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After that , just write the equation in point of contact form
Let's take ( x1 , y1 ) as point of contact of tangent
From the equation calculate x and y intercept
Add them up and it should be solvable using the first equation
x = 0 or y = 0
x ,y >= 0
so x = 0, y = c
y = 0, x = c
x + y = c
are you ok?
understand?
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U calculated this from the main equation , not the tangent
yah
Why tho
my failure
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$y'=3cx^2+e^x$
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$y"=6cx+e^x$
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for the double derivative to change signs, $6cx+e^x=0$ must have a solution.
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thus $y=cx^3+e^x$ has inflection points for all those $c$ for which $6cx+e^x=0$ has a solution
A dense set
How does this look
hmm
I could find a maxima of $-e^x/x$, on $x>0$
It would be -2
A dense set
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for q12 am i doing something wrong?
i wrote this in system of equations
Erm
y2' = -1/16 y
y' = y2
and then i found the eigenvalues so got
so i am getting eigenvalues as 1/16 and 1
but the solution is a circle so i guess it has to be complex?
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like what
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Is there a formula to count the number of integers by skipping certain steps
For example let a and b be any 2 integers
b>a
Number of integers in [a,b]=b-a+1
That's if I skip only one step
Now let a=2 b=6
Now if I skip 2 steps in [a,b] we have 2,4,6 so 3 numbers
Any formula or a good way to visualise would be appreciated
u take the higher bound and divide it by 2
if its even
if its odd tho, add one then divide it by 2
What's a bound
say we have thenfollowing inequality: a < b
a is considered the lower bound of the inequality
and b is the higher bound
now this is between us as a formula, tho its not an internationally recognized one
hm
Like what if a=-183 and b= 298 and we are skipping 19 steps
Find number of integers in (a,b)
open interval?
Yeah
ill see if i can find smt
My idea is to form arithmetic sequence
And find an < b
it works
Hmm
What's Euclidean division
for all a,b are natural numbers (b≠0)
there exists (q,r) couple of natural numbers verifying:
a = bq + r
0 =< r < b
this is the definition in natural numbers tho
Division theorem
well, its euclidean division too ig
Oh
Some things are so fundamental that I forget it had to be discovered
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Yes?
just do b - a
and divide it by ur 19
u get the answer
i knew some arithmetic had to be involved
Let's test
ofc round it up if its not a full integer
depends how u round it up
oh
But we get 1
well thats a bummer
it probably has to do with open/closed intervals
wait what it is right
there is an integer between 2 and 4
its 3
2 and 4 not included
this is a game of definitions now
but 3 is
I mean
We start from 2 regardless it's included or not
are u telling me there exists an integer in (3 ,4)
No
then u frankly cant start from 3
Ok I'm assuming your question is (3,4) right? Skipping 1
i wanna modify smt abt ur first statement here
its b >= a to be precise
Ok so we have we move from 3 to 4 but we reject 3 and 4 it is open interval
go on
That's it
Yeah (3,4) is [3,4]-{3,4}
true
You would start from 3 if it were closed interval, yeah?
yes
wait wut
a as in (a,b)
There is a big misunderstanding
I was trying to address this
We started from 2 but we have to remove it later
Yes
u said ur skipping 1 in this interval or 2?
2
oh 2
Hmm?
Your method?
the division thing
Yeah we should get 1
yeah so there are some conditions non verified
my method sucks too
what if u have [- 2 + sqrt(17) , pi + 12] this method would be absolute horror
0 my bad
safe to say, js use arithmetic sequence method
to avoid issues
i guess the method i used is certain to be correct if the interval is closed
Skipping how much?
Hold on
might have to rely on rounding up
Yeah
If a or b is negative we apply greatest integer function
Otherwise smallest integers function
what r u heading for here?
You said if a or b is decimal
yes
Pi+12 or something
Yeah then we apply greatest integer function for positive
oh wait i kept thinking
GCD
im sorry
greatest function wouldnt work
only works for the higher/upper bound
but the lower bound no
Oh ok
How about this
Always smallest integer function for lower bound
Greatest for higher bound
That should work
[-2.1 ,3.1]
Then we get [-2,3]
So 6
greatest integer for lower bound
smallest integer for upper bound
cause we wanna keep everything in the interval
dont get them out of it
and this technique
suprisingly works
im impressed damn
When I mean greatest integer I mean greatest integer LESS than or equal to that number
That's how it is in my country
oh shit
no u have a point
im wrong here
i forgot the definition
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I was wondering all this because I was amazed that there were formulae for counting numbers
10/10 would recommend
which formula?
theres always an answer to everything
[a,b] has b-a+1 integers
(a,b] or [a,b) Has b-a integers
( a,b) Has b-a -1 integers
All these are for skipping 1
Made my life easier
I got greedy and I was wondering for skipping 2 or more hehe
I guess I'll never need it, if I do, I'll use arithmetic mean
We can solve for an < b
what what
but a is excluded
Yeah
as u please
(a,b)
We're skipping 1
so d= 1
An=a+(n-1)d= a+n-1
And An<b
a+n-1<b
n<b-a+1
Now n is the maximum number of terms between b and a
yes
So n should be the closest integer to b-a+1
But not greater
(assuming b and a are integers)
well ur reasoning is correct
uh
We needed a number lesser than b-a+1
That's b-a
what does this mean
Not an integer
We just apply greatest integer function to (b-a)
yes
6
what
then....
So 7 😭
Yeah
YOOO
Let's just apply formula and check
smts not right
Yeah we get 6 in formula
well actually
the formula works for a,b are integers
for our case, greatest integer(a) - smallest integer(b) + 1
is the way to go
because they become included
Yeah...
-1
+1
For open it's -1
thats for open
when the bounds
are integers
in our case, (a,b) where a and b are irrational
the amount of integers in (-pi, pi) is the same as the amlunt of integers in [-3, 3]
we turned it closed, u see?
I think it's best not to just try to find a formula for everything 😭
Some things we have to do in steps
no this one has a formula actually
And do what we know
Like we did for (-pi,pi)
We converted it into a problem we know
to find the amount of integers in (a,b) where a and b are not integers, we do greatest integer(b) - smallest integer(a) + 1
this is actually a formula
Let me check it
works for (a,b) or [a,b) or (a, b] or [a,b]
yuppers
Good point to remember
is this all for ur questions?
Yeah, thanks a ton, Youssef
no needa mention it bud
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Helpful maybe
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Also how do ik my rank
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guys please help its 1am and i have a test tomorrow
Translate?
Cap means 'and' right?
where do you see cap
Upside down V
What does Y|8 even mean
thats what i dont know
Y such that 8?
i have no clue tbh
Is this a homework question or you're practicing?
practice
i was supposed to have the test a long time ago but some kids were sending bomb threats to school and its been delayed till tomorrow
wait
A intersection P is P
I have no idea, you better worry about other questions
i went through everything else
You ought to ask your teacher before the test
Then B= {1,2,4,8}
B\A is difference?
Cross product I would assume
That's how it is usually in sets
Doesn't make much sense tho
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i just got it
for example A={a,b,c}, B={1,2}
AxB={(a,1), (a,2), (b,1), (b,2), (c,1), (c,2)}
ok im set for my test tomorrow
thanks
Gl
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A bag contains 6 red and 4 green marbles. Three are drawn randomly without replacement. What is the probability that the third is green given that at least one of the first two is green?
Cases (GRG, RGG, GGG)
((4/10)(6/9)(3/8)) + ((6/10)(4/9)(3/8)) + ((4/10)(3/9)(2/8))
Why is this not the answer?
anyone?
draw a tree diagram
case of GRG
((4/10)(6/9)(3/8))
case of RGG
((6/10)(4/9)(3/8))
case of GGG
((4/10)(3/9)(2/8))
right?
yes
when i add them up
i get 7/30
but thats not the correct answer
its 7/20
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hint: y = 1/x <=> x y = k n (mod n)
The inverse of 3 (mod m) is the number x such that 3x = km for some interger k.
what have you tried?
yeah it bascially jumps at you
something times 3 is 1 more than some multiple of 6n+2
shuba misspoke
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solve for a
I cant get a clear answer online
Factor a
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hello guys
lets say i have a bunch of points on a cartesian plane
and together those points look like a quadratic
how can i get the equation for this curve
how many points are there?
like a lot
okay is using technology fine then?
like you can find the best-fit quadratic on Desmos
here's an example
of course your case is probably messier
yes but if you are in high school this is beyond your knowledge
crap
is this for an internal assessment?
i'm working on a math project which is modelling the trajectory of tennis serves
yes
okay then
basically you should just pick three points from your data
and fit a unique quadratic between these three points
i don't get it
you don't get how to do that?
wdym three points
yeah, choose 3 points from your data
3 (x, y) values
do they have to be consecutive
no
yeah like you should graph your points first
look at the graph and choose 3 points that look like they will fit well
what should i do after this
then sub in each of these (x, y) values into y = ax^2 + bx + c
you will get 3 linear equations in a, b, c
wdym 3 linear equations
oh wait
never mind
a + 2b + 3c = 4 and so on
and how can i turn this into a quadratic
if you solve for a, b, c, you know the quadratic cause it's just y = ax^2 + bx + c
oh right
here are some examples
so i just solve a b and c with the simultaneous equation
yes
is there a name for this method?
I'm not sure if there's an exact name but it's super common
tons of places do maths investigations and so a lot of people will have done an investigation on quadratics
what about cubics
now you sub in 4 points, then you will have 4 linear simultaneous equations in a, b, c, d
for y = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d
then for a degree n polynomial it's (n + 1) points
you get the idea
yep
cause a cubic has 4 free variables
you have to use two polynomials
yeah cause it's piecewise
ok
it can't be expressed as a single polynomial cause of the sharp turning point
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is there a reason they did it in this order? multiplying the middle and second last one first?
i multiplied the first two, then multiplied that by the last one
got a diferent answer but not sure if i messed something up or if i'm just missing something
the order shouldn't matter
you'll get the same answer either way
so at least one of you have made a mistake
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