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I’m learning how to solve exact differential equations in my diff eq class. I solved this but got the wrong answer, and I have the right answer to the side of the page. Where did I go wrong with my math?
What's the integral of 4yx dx
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Would it be
2yx^2 ?
Ahh oh my god I see my mistake
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i see the right triangle is a 30-60-90 and i have the bottom equal to 4 and the side is 4root3. would i use the pythagorean theorem to find the bottom of the other triangle? follow up question if im trying to find angle A once i know all the side lengths would sine be the best option?
You wanna find angle A right?
yes
We'll keep it really simple
i’m trying to find the sides first and then i use sine cos tan
unless i’m making it to complicated
ok ok thank you for helping
your method looks almost correct, except, the bottom side is not 4. You can re check which side on 30-60-90 is half the hypotenuse
|| its the red ||
We'll find the length of the red line
Are you seeing how can we do it?
so would i find x by dividing 8? since the 8 side is 2x
So you tell me what'll be the length of the red line if we take the right triangle
yeah 4
It'll be reversed
can you explain that?
The red line is 4 and the bottom is 4√3
Do you know normal trigonometry?
I'd like to go that path to explain
ok yeah so the red line is 4
and to find the last missing side of use the pythagorean theorem correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong
We don't always need to do that
It'll take our time for no apparent reason
ok i see now but i have another question about a different homework if that’s ok to ask?
i don’t know if i worded that question correctly
actually wait it’s like to hard to explain over text
i’ll just ask my teacher tbh sorry to take up your time on that part but thank you for the original help
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For number 29, can I choose any two vectors with the same starting point, i.e., either RQ and RP, QR and QP, or PQ and PR?
Also, how would I tell the order in which I would calculate the cross-product? Meaning, how would I tell, for example, if I should do RP x RQ or if I should do RQ x RP?
the order doesn't matter. the only difference would be that RP x RQ = -(RQ x RP), but you are taking the magnitude so it doesn't affect the final result
and you can choose any two vectors, even without the same starting point, since if you take the negative of one you're guaranteed to end up with the same starting point (and that would only add a - to the cross product vector, which we take the magnitude of)
Thank you for your help
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i just have a question for a)
how do i show that it is odd
like
can i just say that
since all the powers of x are odd
therefore the polynomial
is odd
yea thats a way but proper would be P(-x)=-P(x)
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Hi I'm working through practice algebra problems. I don't understand how this algebraic expression was reached to get the answer. Why is it all equal to 9 and why did they pick 3.5, 1.8, and 3.5?
Also, I think it supposed to read "calculate the thickness of the inner walls" not "rooms"
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Help please
Do you know the law of sines
Do you know that law of sine
no 😦
bacc
what does that mean
what
how do i use that
Assume at A your have the angle alpha = 52°
Then the length a would be CB = a
At B you have beta = 25° and length AC = b
At C you have gamma = 103° and length AB = 55
right but what am i trying to find for a,b
,, \frac{\sin 52^\circ}{a} = \frac{\sin 25^\circ}{b} = \frac{\sin 103^\circ}{55}
bacc
You basically have two equation to solve for
how do i do that
bacc
Now take a calculator and solve for a and b
i cant put an = sign in my calc. btw im stupid
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idfk
see
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bacc
oh
still lost?
You can do now cross multiplication
bacc
44.497
Now you can divide by 0.974
23.886
bacc
If you use your calculator you should get it
do u see now?
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xoxoxo
yw
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Helpppp
post question
nvm
I’m on my last attempt
,tex .sine law

Bro I tried
show how you got your numbers
I didn’t write it down
Bro I tried so many times
I’m just lost
124.4
32.6
16.4
This is what I got
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bro you got riemann helping
He not responding
lmao i wont walk you through again
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Help please
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help?
How far did you get on your own?
new to geo but all i got was B
sorry not e, D
Are there any you can eliminate as false?
C
So do you think D is true or false?
true
What does perpendicular mean to you?
equal
we didnt learn what it means
Oh well
Perpendicular means at a right angle
oh
so d is false
A is true
A
B
thats it?
What do you think about E?
not true
its equal
since cb and bc is cd
no
(also, in the context of E, CB,CD, and BD are referring to the lengths of lines)
yea im aware
Are you sure this question is meant for you?
Cause I'd expect this question to be presented to someone who has heard of perpendicular and of the triangle inequality
But also, take this
And think about how it applies to E
so C + B > D?
i get it
thx
wait what is C called?
in the triangle inequality thereom
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can combine equations like 2x+3-1x(x) = 3x?
Yes
Distribute the -1x across x
So
-1x(x) = -x^2
Then
Substitute back into the equation
what if 2x+3x-1x(x)(y) = 3xy?
You would come out with something different
Is this the equation
Can you provide more context
idk if its correct or not, this channel is help
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so 2x+3x-1x(x)(y) = 0
wdym getting a better question? im not good these maths so i just said the math problems if its correct or not
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Im stuck on where to begin with this
im wondering how it would be possible to answer this with being given any info other than time traveled
let's begin by marking on the speeds for each leg of Nemo's journey
ive done that
ok, since he only walks in cardinal directions, we can simplify the problem into a two legs from A to B, the first north, the second West.
ok but how do i determine the distance of the path that we just made
Hi can someone explain parabole
now, let's suppose the length of the north/south path is N, and the length of the east/west path is E.
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ok
ive got the line written down with the km/h values
how do we determine distance travleed from that'
I've also added points P and Q, because they might be useful
going up would be west wouldnt it
(it doesn't matter if he goes north/south before east/west)
oh
for simplicity, I've said he goes west to P, then north to B, then south to Q, then east back to A
oh ok
so, the length of the path from A to B is clearly (E + N), but we want to find this in numbers.
right
let's also give some names to the times for each leg.
Let's say TN is the time for the north/south legs, TE is the time for the eastern leg, and TW is the time for the western leg.
(we don't need different north vs south times, because theyr'e the same, because he travels at the same speed for the same distance on these legs).
now we can calculate the time taken for him to complete each leg.
For example, the time for the north/south legs is N/4
so 1 hour?
we don't know the distances, so we can't quite yet give them values.
oh ok
Let's just look at his first leg, A to P.
The distance is E km, and his speed is 6 km/h, so it would take him TW = E/6 h (hours).
We need to do the same for TN and TE.
the speeds (km/h values) for each leg.
ok did it
you have this?
- AP: distance =
E km, speed =6 km/h, so time =E/6 h - PB: distance =
N km, speed =4 km/h, so time =N/4 h - BQ: distance =
E km, speed =3 km/h, so time =E/3 h - QA: distance =
N km, speed =4 km/h, so time =N/4 h
yes
Cool. And we know the total time is 6 hours, which means E/6 + N/4 + E/3 + N/4 = 6.
is the first e/4 supposed to be e/6
yes, good catch
ok i got that down
can you simplify that?
i think so'
it simplifies to something very nice
i cant figure what it simplifies to
do i multiply both terms
what have you got so far?
ok, first rearange the order in which things are added so we have Es first, and Ns second.
yep, and now factor out the E from the first two terms, and the N from the second two terms
$$\frac{x}{2} + \frac{x}{3} + \frac{y}{4} + \frac{y}{4} = x \left(\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3}\right) + y \left( \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{4}\right)$$
Shuba
i got 1/2 in both brackets after simplifying
$$x \left(\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3}\right) + y \left( \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{4}\right) = x \left( \frac{5}{6} \right) + y \left( \frac{1}{2} \right)$$
Shuba
yep, perfect
So, you now have $E \frac{1}{2} + N \frac{1}{2} = 6$. Can you simplify it any further?
Shuba
not sure
(ignore that last message XD)
you could get rid of the 1/2 on the left side.
divide?
by what?
1/2
yep 🙂
does it get rid of both
try it
$$x \left( \frac{5}{6} \right) + y \left( \frac{1}{2} \right) = 3 \quad(\times 6)\qquad\implies\qquad 5x + 3y = 18$$
Shuba
so do i multiply both sides by 2
multiplying by 2 and dividing by 1/2 is actually the same thing
yep 🙂
thats the total distance right
yep, the total distance must be 12 km, even though we don't know how much of that is in which direction.
that's A to B and back to A
oh ok
so, the distance from A to B (question 1) is?
6
sure
thank you
Now, instead of looking at distances, I'm going to switch to looking at displacements (which are distances in a direction).
or, let me work this through and see if there's an easier way

sounds good
yep, got it
ok perfect
so, we know E + N = 12.
Or, respectively W + N = 12 (because B might be west-ish of A)
yup
so, let's look at the first one. we can have any combination of north and east, so long as the total distance is 12 km. let's look at if the E = 0, or N = 0.
if E = 0, then N = 12. and if N = 0, then E = 0.
i.e. he walks in a straight line.
what direction could A to B be, which would mean his speed would be fastest?
by which i mean, is directly east fastest, or maybe directly north, or maybe a little bit of both?
what if A to B is directly north, so no east leg?
that would be the fastest
cool. So, if it is directly north, and he travels 6 km (as we determined in question 1), how long would it take him to get there?
1 hour
nope. what's his northerly speed?
yep
and it would be the same if B was directly south of A (because his southerly speed is the same as his northerly speed)
So, what's the slowest direction A to B could be in?
12km east
yep, which would take how long?
2 hours for 6km
yep
now, let's look at if B is instead westerly of A.
again, the northerly / southerly time would be 1 hour 30 minutes. What about if A to B is directly west?
1 hour
in help guys i cant think of anything
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yep, cool. So the fastest time he could do it is 1 hour, and the slowest is 2 hours.
which doesn't make sense now I think about it. one second
were we supposed to use west
if A is north of B: distance = 6, speed = 4, time = 1.5
return: distance = 6, speed = 4, time = 1.5
total time = 3 hours

i've screwed up somewhere XD
in the first question?
so is it 24k total then
yep
okok
I mixed up total time with distance from A to B.
nvm
so, the fastest direction A to B could be is directly west, which would mean it would take how long?
yep, and the slowest direction is directly east, which could take how long?
ye, 4 hours XD
haha
and that's the answer to question 2 🙂
it would take between 2 and 4 hours to get from A to B.
perfect thank you alot

do you get paid
you're the second person to offer XD
I don't but maybe I should start properly tutoring.
you're good XD
thanks ❤️
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can someone explain the best method and explanation for b)?
my method was finding the extrema of f(x) and then testing the x-coordinates of those extrema, leading me to an answer of (3-sqrt(3))/3.
I'm not completely sure how I can write my explanation quickly and concisely in words.
you can just show that the function is monotone between the 2 turning points
since turning points are symmetrical for this function
oh yikes
my bad
i just assumed it was idk why
in that case u just find maximum turning point
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IS 12.65 m CORRECT PLZ I HAVE MY LAST CHANCE
What's A, B, and C?
Hint: A = (-10, 4)
Then, calculate A - B - C
Hint: (Ax, Ay) - (Bx, By) = (Ax-Bx, Ay-By)
Then calculate the magnitude.
Hint: |(x, y)| = sqrt( x^2 + y^2 )
what have you got for A-B-C?
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i m so srry
but can someone explain this for me
like i got down si prefixes but
why are we cubing these and 1milliter = 100cm?
i thought 1 mililiter was 10^-3
and centi would be 10^-2 like wot
Or are these just different
theyre not denying what you said at all
1mm=10^(-3)m
1cm=10^(-2)m
ie 1m=1000cm
1m=100cm
100 cm = 1m
(100 cm)^3 = (1m)^3
100^3 cm^3 = 1 m^3
so one cubic meter is actually 100^3 cm^3 = 1000000 cm^3
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wati
so 1cm is not 10^-2 cm
1 cm is just 1 cm
can i convert b/w anything in si prefixes?
it kind of messing with my mind lol
like 0.01 is just the multiplier
.close im idiot lol
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i’m confused is this right?
,,ccw
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there
yes its right
how do i find the horizontal asymptote?
what value can't f(x) be
0
yes
so the end behavior is dependent on the horizontal asymptote?
or it will approach the horizontal asymptote?
when the limit of a function as x approaches a value is infinity, you conclude about existence of a vertical asymptote
when the limit of a function as x approaches infinity is a finite value, you conclude about existence of a horizontal asymptote
omfg thank you
lowkey just saved me
my teacher never really went over it she kinda just does it and expects us to see the pattern, despite the fact that she has only done like 3
lol
ty!
$\lim_{x \to \infty} f(x) = a \quad \implies $ y=a is a horizontal asymptote of $(C_f)$ at $\infty$
$\lim_{x \to a} f(x) = \infty \quad \implies $ x=a is a vertical asymptote of $(C_f)$
also worth noting if the limit is infinity or -infinity on just one side of a (not necessarily both), usually you still say there is an asymptote there
like with log
or something piecewise defined by 1/x on the left and whatever on the right
true, lemme edit it rq
oh you don't have to, what you said is still right
i was just pointing out the converse isn't true
$\lim_{x \to \infty} f(x) = a \quad \implies $ y=a is a horizontal asymptote of $(C_f)$ at $\infty
\ $\lim_{x \to -\infty} f(x) = a \quad \implies $ y=a is a horizontal asymptote of $(C_f)$ at $(-\infty) \ \
$\lim_{x \to a^{\pm}} f(x) = \pm \infty \quad \implies $ x=a is a vertical asymptote of $(C_f)$
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why does adding these turn the denominator from -25+10h into 25-10h?
person multiplied numerator with -1 as well
notice the minus before the fraction
ohh i see thank you
do you know why that is?
or do you need more context
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I’m having trouble seeing where I went wrong for this vector problem
It’s asking for the resulting vector R and I took the components of X and H for each, added them and then put them into the Pythagorean theorem
Is that not what I’m suppose to do in this situation?
Yep, that's it
Maybe check calculations again
And look carefully at vector C, for the x-component you'll have to use sin(thetaC) and not cos
Same goes for its y-component
How do you know which to use for what
The definition of cos and sin for angles in a right triangle
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I figured it out but I’m missing something now
I have all the numbers for the components and the results but I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong when I’m finding theta
Is it not just arctan (y/x)?
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Could someone help me
This related rates question
I tried evaluating cos(theta) = base/hypotenuse
Then take derivative
so far so good
i probably wouldn't use cos (you don't know the horizontal distance) but it works
is there equations like 2d+ 2d = 4d?
Would I use tan?
Got this equation
To let x go to 700 and let theta be 45
Am I on the right track
i'm not sure i see where that equation comes from
Tan(theta) = y/x
X is same thing as base
I just wrote it was that
Then we can rewrite it to be in terms of x = y/tan(theta)
X= 4/tan(theta)
i don't know if that step is necessary
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can someone help me with a couple of these
starting with 40 please help!!!
i have a general grasp i just need some help
for 40 you should put a x value that is a little bit bigger than 1 right?
some value like 1.0000001
right, as its coming from the right
lets just use
2
so
4/-1
and thats negative
so negative infity?
yes
ok so whenever its a negative value its just negative infinity for these ones?
when it is negative and when denominator is approaching to 0 (and numerator is not approaching to 0)
yes
for 44, can I plug in zero?
as it is larger than -1/2
and that would be 1/3
if i plug in zero
if you plug 0 than denominator is negative but if you plug 1/2 denominator is 0
i thought it just had to be a value greater?
think if you gut a value like -0.499999, you would get a negative denominator but still very near to 0
^ this applies
but its just a value greater thatn -1/2?
oh 1min I think I did not see the minus
nah
ohh ok
something over 0
do i need to find numerator
0/0
so direct sub fails
now i plug insomething close but greater than -1/2?
if it is 0/0 then you can use L'Hospital or try to simplify it (get rid of the coefficients that makes it 0/0)
but you can factor it right?
oh ye
factor and simplify
now plug -0.5
and you get the result
yes
nope, denominator is not 0 after simplifying
for 40 we first plug 1 and we get 0 at denominator than we put a value bigger than 1 (2) to find signs of numerator and denominator
oh i see
but wait
we did the same thing on 44
44 is 0/0 so we had to simplify first
so when the denom is 0 but numerator isnt after simplifying and what not you do either pos or neg inf?
yes either pos or neg inf on that case, you put another value to find signs
- Plug the given value to see if it is 0/0 or not
- If it is 0/0 then simplify and plug the given value, you found the answer
- If it is x/0 (x is not 0) then plug another compatible value to find signs and answer is either pos or neg inf
- If it is x/y (neither x nor y is 0) answer is x/y
thank you
you're welcome
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yeah q'(0) should be 0
does everything else look good aside from that?
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b) set up the integral that will find the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about the x-axis
c) use disk/washer method to write the integral(s) that will compute the volume of the solid generated when the region is rotated about the y-axis
d) use shell method to write the integral(s) that will compute the volume of the solid formed when this region is rotated about the y-axis
e) set up the integral that will compute the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about the line y=6
f) set up the integral that will compute the volume of the solid generated by revolving the region about the line x=3
I only need help with e and f. I would appreciate verification for the rest
im a little rusty on volume bc i havent studied it sincel last year
but i can try
are the bounds on your final answer from c 0 to 1?
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yeah the bounds are [0,1]
The bounds for part c) are [0,5] though
i could be wrong but wont c need two integrals as indicated by the question having that s at the end
from 0 to 5 you can just use y/5 and from 5 to 6 you can just use sqrt(6-y)
I think the s just encompasses both integrals when using either washer or disk but I'm honestly not sure
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Hello there blank, do you still need help with your question?
Yes
iirc, you are using disk/washer in part (b) and (c) right?
:(
if that's the case, (c) would be incorrect
well
yea?
I was just saying well to express my disappointment
oh...
I skipped it tbh
ah
I did the rest of what I needed to
Is part d at least correct?
so, iirc, this would be disk/washer, right?
if thatst the case, you'll have to split into two integrals
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Hello
How do I do 5c)?
first factor the denominator
Like how
Newton's Method of factorization?
you can try grouping terms
Like howww
x^3 - x + x^2 - 1
What next tho
notice any common factors?
great, now you can use that
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Hi, Im learning fixed point iteration and I have a question regarding the convergence theorem:
The theorem states that if |g'(root)| < 1 then a fixed point exists. Does this mean I need to know the root to test out convergence?
no, but an area might be nice
well, lets say it more clearly as you'd need a neighborhood
yea, if you know that some region contains a root
and the condition is satisfied there
then youre good
Ok so I would just plug in a number above and under, and if its less than 1 then the function converges?
So lets say im trying to solve this:
I narrow it down to two g(x) equations
How would I know which one converges?
Take the derivitive and plug in random numbers near a root?
you have two equations there
whats your candidate region
something to start with
you have a rough idea where the root is?
0?
Gets higher
youre thinking the function is moving up the y axis
an dyoure right
but im asking about the x intercept
not the y intercept
the root moves to a more negative number right
Yeah
yea i think thats a pretty good guess
i mean we could check like
at x=-1
x^3 +2x + 1 is like
-1 -2 + 1
so -2
so theres a sign change somewhere in there
okay, candidate region (-1, 0)
Makes sense, use ivt to find one pos one neg and so the root it somewhere in the middle
Alr
ou have two equations
try to look at their magnitude on this region
lets start with the easier one
$\frac{1+x^3}{2}$
jan Niku
Yeah makes sense
$\qty| \frac{1+x^3}{2} |$
jan Niku
ok cool
okay, now we gotta answer
whats the biggest this can be
we get to pick any x between -1 and 0
how big can we make it
oh 0
yea, i think so
so 1/2
yup
you maybe see the game, now
I forgor latex any shot you can put it in the cool fraction thing
we wanna make it as big as possible
-1
$\qty| \frac 32 x^2 |$
jan Niku
which is >1
it is
so it diverges?
with this region
we have choices
we can refine the region
you might use something like, bisection
what you do is take your region
-1 to 0
and you turn this into two regions
-1 to -1/2 and -1/2 to 0
find where the root is and refine bounds
Ik bisection lol im trying to learn this one :(
im lost as to how I am supposed to test for convergance
without like
trying so many bounds
okay, lets say the region is -1/2 to 0
ok
maybe we check the value of the function at -1/4 and -3/4
0 becomes 0 so thats good
whats 1/2 become
jan Niku
whats g'(-1/2)
no
.75
its not
$\frac 32 \qty( - \frac 12 )^2$
jan Niku
3/8
bro i forgot to ^2
thats fine
ok continue
ok wait so
this is what my book says
just so im understanding, for every time i used fixed point itteration
I find the seperate equations
find as close an interval around the root as I can get
and see if it converges via the derivitive?
we're kind of doing it backwards, but this is easier to understand
at least with the intervals
whatd you probably like to do instead is to start with $g' = \frac 32 x^2$
jan Niku
and find where the magnitude of this is under 1
then, go searching for a root
because now you know where it has to be
ohhhhh
unless you otherwise know where it is already
but some equations always diverge right
oh wait
can i plug my starting guess in to see if it diverges?
like to test?
yes
i would just code it lol
or use a calculator
theres plenty pre-coded
or maybe youve made one
they can be screwy
i mean iterative methods
they might act really strangely
thats the hard part
Like will the left function always diverge
it might look like its converging then do something wacky
or is there a starting guess I could have used to make it converge
thats kinda my question
sorry whats the left one lmc
cubic root of -2x-1
$g(x) = \sqrt[3]{-2x-1}$
jan Niku
yup
,w D[ (-2x-1)^(1/3), x ]
if its und it also diverges?
,w plot 2/3 * (-2x-1)^(-2/3) from x=-1 to x=0
so like what im trying to unserstand is
right, its negative there
will every equation always converge at a point
or are there some that will never work
If i understand what youre asking then no, a bunch will shoot off to infinity

