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humble steppe
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for this one

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@bold sedge what technique is best to solve this integral

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u sub?

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nvm

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its not u sub

bold sedge
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Yes. Substitute 1-y=u

humble steppe
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oh..

bold sedge
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You can do it using u sub easily

humble steppe
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not by doing partial fraction decomp?

bold sedge
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What will you decompose it into.

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The denominator is linear

humble steppe
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idk but with u sub 1+y wills tay the same

bold sedge
humble steppe
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i just get -1(1+y)^2 du

bold sedge
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Wrong

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Do the substitution correctly

humble steppe
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-(1+y)^2/u du

bold sedge
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You should replace 1+y in terms of u.

humble steppe
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idk how to

bold sedge
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If 1-y=u then
1-u=y
so 2-u=1+y

humble steppe
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if u =1-y then 1+y is u+2y

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oh

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then whats wrong with my reasoning?

bold sedge
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Because y is still there

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You have to replace all instances of y with u.

humble steppe
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okay i get (-2+u)/u

bold sedge
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Again wrong

humble steppe
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bruh

potent lotusBOT
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bathroom mug

humble steppe
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i forgot tthe 62

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^2

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but this integral is still hard to do

bold sedge
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No

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$-\int \frac{(2-u)^2}{u} du =-\int \frac{4+u^2-4u}{u}=-\int (u-4+4/u) du$

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bathroom mug

bold sedge
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I hope you can do on your own now.

humble steppe
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oh i see

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thank you

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bold sedge
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Yeah second equality, i forgot the du.

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It is usually called the differential.

next wren
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lebesgue measure?

bold sedge
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Unless you are doing measure theory

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could you send a paper about laplace pressure of uneven shapes?
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6 persons enter an elevator and pick - independently and with uniform probability - one of 8 floors.
Calculate the expected number of floors on which some number of people (>0) leave the elevator.

Note: Consider a random-variable that is 1 exactly when a person gets off on this floor and 0 otherwise.
First find the probability with which this variable is 0, then its expected value.
With this expected value you can easily calcaulte the result we're looking for.

coarse minnow
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I'm not sure where to even begin with this one

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The random-variable they're looking for for each floor is 0 exactly when all 6 people choose to not get off at one (out of 8) given floors so with probability (7/8)^6 ?

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so it's 1 with a probability of 1-(7/8)^6

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so since it's binary that's the expected value here?

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now how does that help with finding the expected number of floors?

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civic dirge
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We can make another random variable that represents the number of floors people choose to get off the elevator

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Xt = X1 + X2 + ... X8

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The actual distribution of this random variable is probably very difficult to get. However, the expectation is easy.

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@coarse minnow

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civic dirge
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Exactly

coarse minnow
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so approximately 4.41?

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$\sum_{i=1}^8 1-(\frac{7}{8})^6 = 8(1-(\frac{7}{8})^6) = \frac{144495}{32768} \approx 4.41$

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coarse minnow
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this?

civic dirge
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Yeah it makes sense to me

coarse minnow
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probabilities making intuitive sense usually means that they're wrong..

civic dirge
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It seems easier than it should be, haha. Expectation is easy like that. I have the urge to code this and see the result

coarse minnow
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I just did that

#!/usr/bin/env python3
import random

LEVELS = [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]

def run_once(n_person: int = 6)-> int:
    chosen_levels = set()
    for i in range(n_person):
        chosen_levels.add(random.choice(LEVELS))
    return len(chosen_levels)

def mean(data):
    n = 0
    mean = 0.0

    for x in data:
        n += 1
        mean += (x-mean)/n
    if n < 1:
        return float('nan')
    return mean

def main():
    results = []
    for i in range(1000000):
        results.append(run_once())
    print(mean(results))

if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

This does consistently produce values around 4.41, so I'll assume the solution is correct

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sharp wasp
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The different birthdays of 𝑛 people must be at least 3 days apart from each other. Determine approximately
𝑛 such that the probability of this happening is 50%

sharp wasp
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is this right??

mortal orbit
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why 365 - 3(n-1)?

sharp wasp
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i dont know i just came up with that

mortal orbit
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yeah it's not correct

sharp wasp
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how would u do it

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maybe 365-3n/365^n=0.5 starting from n=0?

mortal orbit
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no that's not it either...

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take n = 2

sharp wasp
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why n=2?

mortal orbit
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for example

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so that you see what's wrong

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the probability that two birthdays are at least 3 days apart from each other is 365*358/365^2, can you see why?

sharp wasp
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shouldnt be 365*(365-3)/365^2?

mortal orbit
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no

sharp wasp
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we remove 3 days for both of them

mortal orbit
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no that's still not it

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suppose the first birthday is chosen

sharp wasp
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hahaha im good at this

mortal orbit
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which birthdates are LESS than 3 days apart?

sharp wasp
mortal orbit
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say we picked june 10th

sharp wasp
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yes

mortal orbit
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it doesn't matter but it's for representation

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which birthdates are NOT at least 3 days apart from june 10th?

sharp wasp
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7-8-9, 11-12-13

mortal orbit
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you're missing something

sharp wasp
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7-8-9, 11-12-13 this is the 3 days that 10 is apart from

mortal orbit
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ok, so many things wrong with that sentence

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so

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june 7th, yes it's not at least 3 days apart

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because |7-10| = 3, is not greater than 3

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same reasoning for 8,9, 11,...

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but you missed one

sharp wasp
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i cant figure it out

mortal orbit
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don't look far

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the days that are not at least 3 days apart from june 10th are not further "before" june 7th and not further "after" june 13th either

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but you still missed one

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7,8,9,11,12,13

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are those the ONLY days that are 3 days apart or less from june 10th?

sharp wasp
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yes thats right

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so for the 10 june we remove this days 7,8,9,11,12,13

mortal orbit
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yes but which day do we remove as well?

sharp wasp
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10?

mortal orbit
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YES!

sharp wasp
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YESSS

mortal orbit
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finally

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10 is not at least 3 days apart from 10

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ok

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so 7 days

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we remove 7 days

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so 358

sharp wasp
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so 365*(365-7)/365^n

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7n

mortal orbit
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?

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no

sharp wasp
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we start from n=2

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??

mortal orbit
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ok you're bad at inferring formulas

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n=1 was what

sharp wasp
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yes

mortal orbit
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what's the probability when n=1

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that all birthdays are 3 days apart or more from each other

sharp wasp
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365/365?

mortal orbit
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yes

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n = 1 :

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365/365

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n= 2:

sharp wasp
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358/365

mortal orbit
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365(365-7)/365^2

sharp wasp
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yes yes

mortal orbit
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so

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what's next

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can you conjecture something for n=3?

sharp wasp
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365(365-7)(365-7 - 7)/365^3

mortal orbit
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there we go

sharp wasp
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this is ugly though

mortal orbit
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well it's what it is

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(though fair warning : it's not the EXACT formula)

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but it's a very very good approximation

sharp wasp
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can u think something that will make it into a formula

mortal orbit
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just a product

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$\prod_{k=0}^{n-1}\frac{365-7k}{365}$

potent lotusBOT
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rafilou2003

mortal orbit
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this formula gets worse and worse at approximating the probability as n gets bigger

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but it should hold enough accuracy until we reach 50%

sharp wasp
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it was simple

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goddamn

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u forgot 365^k

mortal orbit
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it's the denominator

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365*365*365*...

sharp wasp
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sorry

mortal orbit
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anyways you get 48% with n = 9

sharp wasp
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im exhausted

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thats good

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REALLY THANK U

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A country’s gross domestic production is modeled by the equation
P = 2L^3/5K^2/5 where L is the amount the country devotes to labor
and K is the amount spent on capital. Currently the country spends
5 trillion dollars on labor and 4 trillion on capital. If the country is
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what rate is the gross domestic production of the country increasing?

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carmine sorrel
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what have you tried?

swift vortex
carmine sorrel
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I guess I otter change how I ask that.

gusty spade
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tbh, I missed the online class where my professor taught us this type of problem so idrk where to start

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& I'm meant to show each step and explain it

carmine sorrel
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it's asking for a rate, do you know how to find the rate of something?

gusty spade
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Is it the derivative?

carmine sorrel
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yup. Find the derivative of P to find the rate

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and since K and L are given as functions of time, you should use implicit derivation when you do

gusty spade
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So I would take the derivative of the equation, then plug in values for K & L ?

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I got to here

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Do I just plug in he values now?

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pure kayak
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you can try the rational root theorem

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were you doing a division by (x-1)?

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hm
| -x^3 -3x^2 0 4
x|-x^4 -3x^3 0 4x
-1 |x^3 3x^2 0 -4

(x-1)(-x^3-3x^2+4)

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just seems like a small error

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-4 instead of +4

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is there a difference really between these two questions other than the greater than or equal vs greater than?

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for part c of this question, do I just have to figure out $\frac{dz}{dt}=\frac{\partial{z}}{\partial{x}}\frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{\partial{z}}{\partial{y}}\frac{dy}{dt}$

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Why answer is C?

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muted widget
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I don't understand where the "t" marked in purple goes

pseudo wedge
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it's supposed to be in the same spot in the next line

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that's a mistake

muted widget
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okay

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and where does the v_0 go?

blazing hinge
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if its v_0t its added to the -1/2v_0t

muted widget
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how

blazing hinge
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you can see in the next line they got +1/2

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so they added 1 to -1/2

muted widget
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yeah I see that they did

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but how

blazing hinge
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wdym how

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because they simplified

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-1x/2 + 1x = 1x/2

alpine stone
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Ah it's been mentioned already

muted widget
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blazing hinge
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1x is like 2x/2

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if you put in on the same denominator as -1x/2

muted widget
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but

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if we put x to 5

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then
-((1 ⋅ 5) / 2) + (1 ⋅ 5) = -5/2 + 5 = -2.5 + 5 = 2.5

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ah

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I see

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yyyup

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how would you find the area of this ellipse

runic wave
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otherwise how could i convert it to standard reduced form (because the position doesn't matter)

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How to proceed?

untold summit
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first write this in terms of 2^(-1/x) and 3^(-1/x), for example 4^(-1/x) = (2^(-1/x))^2

umbral wadi
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After that...

untold summit
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ok so you should have 9 (2^(-1/x))^2 + 5 * 2^(-1/x) * 3^(-1/x) < 4 (3^(-1/x))^2 which we can rearrange to get 9 (2^(-1/x))^2 + 5 * 2^(-1/x) * 3^(-1/x) - 4 (3^(-1/x))^2 < 0
now if we set a = 2^(-1/x) and b = 3^(-1/x) do you see how this is kind of like (a + b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2, just our coefficients are wrong

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idle marten
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Can you predict what shape the line would be

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imagine y=x^1000 vs y=x

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Non negative coefficients are important here

tall moon
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no clue

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like pointing upwards?

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@idle marten

idle marten
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Yes the function will be pointing up

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imagine connecting 2 points , one is to the right and above the other

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If you connected them with a y=x line, would that line be above a connection using y=x^2

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Lowkey idk if I’m making sense lol

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@tall moon

tall moon
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i dont understand anythinf you said

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not even a single word

idle marten
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Do you know what a polynomial is

winter elbow
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He definitely knows

tall moon
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its like the f(x)=x^something+x^something+...... right?

idle marten
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Yes so the highest degree of the polynomial will determine the shape of the line right

tall moon
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like x^6+666x^4+2x^3/3-4x+3 right

idle marten
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what are the shapes we can get

tall moon
tall moon
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like 2 candy canes stuck together on 0,0

idle marten
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yeah i forgot how to describe those shapes but you can get, either a line, a u shape, or the cubic x^3 shape

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quadratic shape

tall moon
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yeah that goofy shape

idle marten
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Ok so we know that the function will hit a certain y value at a certain x value

I think I’m missing some vocabulary

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Imagine how each shape would approach that point

tall moon
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dunno

idle marten
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This is kinda what I came up with

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So the line is at the top the U is the middle and the cubic is the bottom

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what is the difference in the shape of x^2 and x^4

tall moon
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like its more narrow?

idle marten
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Yeah it’s more narrow

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Hmmm I don’t really have a way to formally prove it but I can imagine the solution

tall moon
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wait so to maximize f(12) a straight line is the best??

idle marten
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yes

tall moon
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o

idle marten
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If you imagine x^1000

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the line would be very steep

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So the y value right before hitting the point would be a lot lower

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Than the linear graph whose slope is less

tall moon
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huh its still wrong

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i got the graph 84x-480

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at x=12 i get y=528

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still wrong tho

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wait a minute

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its non negative coeficcients tho? @idle marten

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a line has neg coefficients

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idle marten
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what is a coefficient

tall moon
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like say ax+b, a and b are coefficients

idle marten
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Oh ur right

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Ok well then fhe line isn’t possible butttt

tall moon
idle marten
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that just means we need to increase the degree

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you know I’m not sure what this topic is testing

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I think you’ll end up with a quadratic where the line of symmetry is in the middle of the point tho

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or a cubic function that’s weird

tall moon
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ok i checked and the answer used C-S

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thanks for your time tho

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Is the part I circled not allowed

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algebraically

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it's allowed

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there's nothing wrong with that

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oh so the limit as n goes to infinity should diverge right?

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correct

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2^n outgrows ln(n) thumbsupanimegirl

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i uhhh

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unless the interval can be something other than 9

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n != -9 may be because of the ln(n)

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tl;dr are "for any" and "for all" interchangeable??

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yes

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why do we use two different ones?

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find $\tan \frac a2$ if $28 \cot a + 27 \sin^{-1} a = 3, a \ \epsilon \ (3 \pi; 4 \pi)$

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nashira._.

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$28 \cot a + 27 \sin^{-1} a = 3 \ a \ \epsilon \ (3 \pi; 4 \pi)$

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nashira._.

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one sec

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so we are just finding tan a/2

pseudo wedge
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Huh

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The question is very wrong

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?

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The domain of sin^-1 is [-1,1]

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And (3pi,4pi) isn’t part of that

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Lol

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Bruh

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That’s not how we usually write that..

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coz in the book it is explicitly arcsin if they need it ig

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Alr let's say it is 1/sin

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so I tried to convert the cot into cos a/sin a and the sin^-1 to 1/sin a and got

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$\frac{28 \cos a}{\sin a} + \frac {27}{\sin a} = 3$

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nashira._.

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then I collected them and got something like

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$28 \cos a + 27 = 3 \sin a$

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nashira._.

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Quadratic it would be

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so I squared both sides

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You don’t need to do that

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Yeh then just replace cos and sin with tana/2

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You can write cosA and sinA in terms of tan(A/2)

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Yeah

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To make it easy for eyes, use tana/2 as x
Look for the root which lies in the given interval

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It's a/2 so keep that in mind

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hmmm

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im sorry im kinda dumb so i didnt get that at all

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You don’t find either

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You can solve for tan(a/2) directly after that

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$\tan \ \frac a2 = \sqrt{\frac{1 - cos a}{1+cos a}}$

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nashira._.

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$$\cos a=\frac{1-\tan^2\frac{a}{2}}{1+\tan^2\frac{a}{2}}$$

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kheerii

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And $$\sin a=\frac{2\tan\frac{a}{2}}{1+\tan^2\frac{a}{2}}$$

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kheerii

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aaaah ok got it

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yeah

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$\tan \frac a2 = 5 \ \ \tan \frac a2 = -11$

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nashira._.

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the second one is the correct answer so my final question is

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since it is in the period of 3pi to 4pi wouldnt they be both correct since tan is both positive and negative there?

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,w 28(1-t^2)/(1+t^2) + 27 =6t/(1+t^2)

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tan a could be positive and negative, sure, but we’re talking about tan(a/2)

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If a is in (3pi, 4pi)

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Then a/2 is in (3pi/2, 2pi)

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thanks so much for the help

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When is
F( x ) = (x²+1)/(x²+3) Convex down

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you wanna find where is it convex down or what ?

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Yes

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equate derivative to zero

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I get x = zero

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seems correct to me

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(0,1/3)

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(0,0.33333333)

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I mean he wants a domain

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He didn't ask for local minimum

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graph of it

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Yeah i know

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Illiad

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Yeah

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F ' ( x ) = 0
When x = zero

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Plug any number in the left of 0

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F ' (x) < 0

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Ok but the answer is wrong

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what is it then ?

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It says it's convex down from [-1 , 1]

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i think the domain should be R

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Illiad

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So do you have any explanation for that?

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Alright but the slope is negative for all x < 0

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Then positive

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Why it's not relevant

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ik im dumb but how do i find the gradient of these 9 secants it says i have to “use the equation to find the coordinate points and calculate the gradient” but idk what equation it’s talking about

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. In the convex quadrilateral ABCD given below, m (∠BCD) = 90°, |AB| = |AC| and AC ∩ BD = K. If the areas of triangles AKD and BCK are 10 cm² and 25 cm² respectively, how many cm² is the area of ​​quadrilateral ABCD?

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10 cm

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K

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B

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A) 55

B) 60

C) 70

D) 105

E) 90

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i think u have to find a new thingy channel cuz it’s occupied

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can you explain it in like dumb people terms because i’m only year 8 idk why i’m doing this work i’m confused

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i assume you know the x values of the endpoints of the lines?

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I know the start points but if i check with a ruler i can probably find the endpoint

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can you show me exactly what was given to you?

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Ok

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Task 2

pure kayak
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if youre approximating tangents the way you doing it is very unhelpful

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tangents are tangential to the graph, yours are just horizontally across

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when it says to the right, it means that if one of your x values was 4 for example, the end points might be about 4.3, 4.5, 5

left vault
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oh

pure kayak
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somewhere such that the line between them is at least in the same direction roughly as the graph

left vault
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oh so like this

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wait let me try it

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i’m confused on how i would draw a line like that while still intercepting the graph in 2 places

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would it be like the pencil lines

pure kayak
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thats better, yes

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you may want to change the scale of your graph though, its a bit compact

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yeah true but for some reason the range has to be -20 to 30

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actually nvm i can just make the domain from like -10 to 10 so it’s wider

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thank you that heped

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helped

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it’s saying you gotta do a different method but it looks like the same thing just the other direction

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What is the indefinite integral of 1/x²-1dx

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I dont get how to solve the question

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in prism ABC-A1B1C1, Plane AA1C1C ⊥ Plane ABC, AB=AC=BC=AA1=2, A1B=√6
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sorry i am new here

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how do i solve this

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because idk how to find part of a standard deviation

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I'd just use the normal cdf function on your calculator

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ok got it

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where i can i learn how to use that

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I guess this doesn't makes sense right

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1-2(1-sin^2)
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yeah

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$2\cos^2(x)-1=\cos(2x)$

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Obotron

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so what you have is equal to: $-\cos \left( \frac{\pi}{2} -\frac{8x}{3}\right )$

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but you probably want to use a different trigonometric identity like Obotron said

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Yeah

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Just second

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Now this seems...more appropriate I think

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Bruh me and my camera

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yeh that looks correct

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to find the general solution

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with like lamda subtracted from the diag

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if you treat $x^3$ as its own variable (you can say for example $y = x^3$ if that's easier) then the polynomial is a quadratic and you can factor it as one

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recognise by exponent rules that $x^6 = x^{3 \cdot 2} = (x^3)^2$

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then we can make up some new variable, for example $u$, and say that $u = x^3$. then we have it that [ x^6 + 7x^3 - 8 = u^2 + 7u - 8 ]

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that's the definition of a root, yes

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If $(x_n)$ is a sequence with $\lim x_n = a$, how do I show that $x\left(\mathbb{N}\right) \cup {a}$ is closed?

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but it is not the case that any sequence in this set will be a subsequence of x_n

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what do i do here knowing the normals are not scalar multiples?

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hwo do i know if they interesect?

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  2. the normals are not parallel, so they are not parallel and do intersect (their intersection is a line)
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so in this case its 2?

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How can I solve this from examples as I never done this before

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I have nothing to draw on to show this as well

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what the

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how is the point of intersection moving

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Never done this one before

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It is moving to the towards each toehr at 10 m/s

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i get the question but idk what it means by "speed of the point of intersection"

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theres two points of intersection

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how is the point of intersection moving?

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Just towards one another as tw points of intersection

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Do you get it now

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I am getting a respone now on what is the meaning

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The two circles are touching. Where the touch, that is the point of intersection. It would move up as the circles get closer.

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# blazing moon Just towards one another as tw points of intersection

Ok, so what I'd do is set the stationary circle to be $x^2+y^2=1$ and set the other circle to be $(x-2)^2+y^2=1$, so that way they are touching each other at exactly one point. Then, since the second circle is moving at 10m/s towards the other circle then the path of the circle is $$(x-2+10t)^2+y^2=1,$$ for $0\leq t\leq 0.2$ and so finding the point of intersection gives $$x=1+5t \quad \text{and} \quad y=\sqrt{10t+25t^2}.$$ Thus, the velocity in the $x$ and $y$ directions are $$\dot{x}=5 \quad \text{and} \quad \dot{y}=\frac{5+25t}{\sqrt{10t+25t^2}}$$ and so substitute $t=\frac{\sqrt{3}+2}{10}$ and find $|v|=\sqrt{(\dot{x}(t))^2+(\dot{y}(t))^2}$.

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one eight seven

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So then just input the t then for the equation

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at t=(sqrt(3)+2)/10, they are sqrt3 apart

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yeah

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0.37

proper marlin
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idk probably

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i was too lazy to calculate

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7.31

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sqrt(25+(5.34)^2)

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Is the answer that I got

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idk is that correct?

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Okay

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<@&286206848099549185> I need to chekc calulcations for this here

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at t=(sqrt(3)+2)/10, they are sqrt3 apart

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I got .37 and then plug it in to get 7.32

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sqrt(25+(5.34)^2)

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@proper marlin they describe it as wrong

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@proper marlin it was 10 m/s as was solved with a different method

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Call a permutation $a_1, a_2, \ldots, a_n$ of the integers $1, 2, \ldots, n$ quasi-increasing if $a_k \leq a_{k+1} + 2$ for each $1 \leq k \leq n-1$. For example, 53421 and 14253 are quasi-increasing permutations of the integers $1, 2, 3, 4, 5$, but 45123 is not. Find the number of quasi-increasing permutations of the integers $1, 2, \ldots, 7$.

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this sounds like a recursion problem

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but im too stupid to think of the recursion

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exotic umbra
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Someone can answer this?

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<@&286206848099549185>

amber bolt
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assume there's 2 boys and 1 girl

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then you can calculate the total masses of boys and girls, and add to get total mass of the class

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Hello. I have a question. Let's say there are five cards, and only one of them is winning card. You must pick a card randomly. If the card is winning card, you win and game is over. If you pick other card, you lose, put the card back, shuffle and give the deck to next player. There are three people playing this game, and each gets one chance to pick a card. What is the probability that the third player wins?

lime pike
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Now I have two answers and not sure which one is correct.

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One is 16/125 (4/5 * 4/5 *1/5) and the other one is 84/625 (4/5 * 21/25 * 1/5)

brittle isle
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16/125 is correct

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the third player can only win if the first two players lose

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since each time a new player picks a card, the card is added back and the deck is shuffled, each player's draw is independent

lime pike
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right. So I was confuses whether the probability of second person to lose is 4/5 or 21/25.

brittle isle
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ah

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actually

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wait now i gotta think lmao

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nah this is right

lime pike
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ok

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But I need an explanation

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maybe I need to ask this question in discussion.

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wet herald
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hollow totem
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what have you tried?

wet herald
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Expanding the bottom two

hollow totem
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what does that mean?

wet herald
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So xsquared + x

hollow totem
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did you combine the fractions together?

wet herald
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No?

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How

hollow totem
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the same way you subtract any other pair of fractions

ancient thistle
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by writing them with a common denominator

wet herald
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But how If x doesn’t have a common denominator

hollow totem
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x doesn't even have a denominator at all

wet herald
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And how would that show a+b if I work out the fraction

ancient thistle
hollow totem
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it's the fractions that have denominators

wet herald
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Expanded

ancient thistle
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expanded what?

wet herald
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The denominator

ionic moon
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just cross multiply
$\frac{a}{b} + \frac{c}{d} = \frac{da + bc}{bd}$

potent lotusBOT
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esca (@ with reply)

ancient thistle
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there's nothing to expand in the denominator here

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i wouldn't call that cross multiplying

wet herald
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Yes bro, x and x + 1

ionic moon
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so what did you get

wet herald
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I said before

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Read higher up in the conversation

ionic moon
wet herald
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Yup

ancient thistle
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that's not expanding

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you're applying it incorrectly

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that's how you find the common denominator

wet herald
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But I didn’t now what to do

ionic moon
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okay so

ancient thistle
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write the fractions with a common denominator

ionic moon
potent lotusBOT
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esca (@ with reply)

topaz raft
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bros got a million helpers bleakkekw

ancient thistle
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,, \f 1 x - \f 1 {x + 1} = \f {???} {x(x + 1)} - \f {???} {x(x + 1)}

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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you're supposed to do this

wet herald
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That is literally halfway from expanding

ionic moon
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just show us what you have then

ancient thistle
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again, you're using the word expanding incorrectly

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this is not "expanding"

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this is rewriting the fractions with a common denominator, in preparation to combine them

wet herald
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Ok I get it

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Wait how did u make the other x(x+1)

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What did u times both side by

ancient thistle
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how do you make x+1 into x(x+1)

wet herald
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Times by ohhh

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Ok

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I get it

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But is that the answer

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Bc it’s still not to square root

ancient thistle
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no it's not the answer

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you still have to solve the equation for x

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this is just working towards making it easier to solve

wet herald
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alr

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So what now

ancient thistle
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can you show what you have

wet herald
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U want me to resend the question

ancient thistle
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no i want you to show your working

wet herald
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Ok

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Hollon

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I’m not great at working out on pc but here

ancient thistle
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can you combine the fractions now

wet herald
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Ye u get 1/x(x+1) = 4

ancient thistle
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do you know how to solve this equation

wet herald
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Nope

ancient thistle
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do you know how to solve a simpler one like 1/x = 4

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,, \f1x = 4

potent lotusBOT
wet herald
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Ye I think

ancient thistle
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how would you do it

wet herald
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Times by 1 to leave x

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On its own

ancient thistle
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times by 1?

wet herald
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Yup

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Oh wait

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Nvm

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If it was something other than 1 I could solve

ancient thistle
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,, \f 2x = 4

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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like this?

wet herald
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Times by 2

ancient thistle
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you sure?

wet herald
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Bc it’s basically just 2 divided by x

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So times it by 2

ancient thistle
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,, \f2x \by 2 = 4 \by 2

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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does this do what you want?

wet herald
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Ye like that

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Maybe

ancient thistle
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so now it's [ \f4x = 8 ]

potent lotusBOT
wet herald
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No wouldn’t it be [ \fx = 8 ]

potent lotusBOT
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wet herald
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No wouldn’t it be [ \x = 8 ]

potent lotusBOT
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wet herald
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Bruh

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U know what I mean

ancient thistle
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,, \f2x \by 2 = \f4x

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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this is how fraction multiplication works

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like for example [ \f21 \by 2 = \f41 ]

potent lotusBOT
wet herald
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I swear if u times idk wich the denominator or numerator but it would get rid of the other

ancient thistle
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think about it for a minute

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1/2 times 2 is 1

wet herald
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Bc they are dividing each other so opposite is to times them

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To get rid of the other no?

ancient thistle
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well yes

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but you should remember which one is dividing which in a fraction

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lest you need to go and review fractions

wet herald
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No I get how to do fractions

ancient thistle
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,, \f13 \by 3 = 1, \quad \f18 \by 8 = 1

potent lotusBOT
wet herald
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But I thought this was like the solv questions

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Bro I know how to use fractions

ancient thistle
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so what is [ \f2x \by 2 ]

potent lotusBOT
wet herald
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4/x

ancient thistle
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okay so back to the equation

hollow totem
wet herald
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Hush

ancient thistle
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,, \f 2x = 4

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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how do you solve for x

wet herald
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Idk

ancient thistle
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you multiply by the denominator

ancient thistle
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,, \f2x \by x = 4 \by x

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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what does this become

wet herald
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So u get 2 = 4x

ancient thistle
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yes

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so x is?

wet herald
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Ohhh so the denominator is what is being divided

ancient thistle
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i thought you knew how fractions worked

wet herald
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Brother

ancient thistle
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maybe you were lying

wet herald
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Chill

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I do

ancient thistle
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you're the one making these bold claims shrug

wet herald
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If u have me a fraction question I could easily do it

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I’m not in year 4

ancient thistle
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i just gave you one

wet herald
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No that don’t really count

ancient thistle
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ok... anyway

ancient thistle
wet herald
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U need to divide by 4 tho bc x isn’t on its own

ancient thistle
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yes so then x is?

wet herald
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0.5

ancient thistle
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damn not even a fraction

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okay anyway that was just the warm up

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back to the actual question

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,, \f 1 {x(x + 1)} = 4

wet herald
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F fractions

potent lotusBOT
ancient thistle
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how do you solve for x here

wet herald
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Times by x (x + 1)

ancient thistle
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looks like you've picked up the trick

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what do you get

wet herald
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Ye

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x(x+1) = 4x(x+1)

ancient thistle
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no!

wet herald
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What lhs

ancient thistle
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anyway faiyrose feel free to take over i gotta dip

wet herald
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Bye

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Hello fairy rose

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Oh ok

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I need to expand it huh

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

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faiyrose

wet herald
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Just c (x + 1)

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I mean x

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Not c

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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1

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1 = 1

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Oh that guy said differently

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He said that he would be left with x(x+1) = 4x(x+1)

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No

hollow totem
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yeah that was you

wet herald
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Hush boy

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U is not here

hollow totem
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you said that and then reacted to your own message with a checkmark

wet herald
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Wizard relax

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Ye continue @shell cliff

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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So I expand the other side

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Ok

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4xsquered + 4x

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Is that it

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Don’t I need a + b squarroot

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How

ancient thistle
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this is what's known in the trade as a quadratic equation

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ever heard of it?

wet herald
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Yes

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I have done it before

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I can’t subtract 1 on the rhs bc they all have x next to them

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Ok

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Try and turn it into a + b squarerroot 2

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Wich x needs to be on its own

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I’m kinda lost at this point

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Ye

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I don’t remember it

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But I know it

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Like that a + or - b squaroot a bunch of numbers

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Ye what I just said

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Hmmmm I wonder

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Didn’t u flip the 0 to the other side

hollow totem
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$ax^2+bx+c+0=$

potent lotusBOT
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thewizardofOU

wet herald
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Tf?

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That makes it worse

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I get it it’s $4x^2+4x-1=0$

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Ye my bad

potent lotusBOT
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XVoid_76

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faiyrose

wet herald
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The numbers above it

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Brooo I’m not that stupid

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Come on look

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4 x squared is axsquared

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Bx is 4x

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C is -1

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Yes bro

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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Ok

wet herald
wet herald
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This

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

wet herald
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It’s it left like that

potent lotusBOT
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faiyrose

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faiyrose

wet herald
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Not x (x+1) above and bellow

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But how did u get that

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Look this is my working out so far

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But I don’t get how u then made the lhs a complete 1

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I did

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I made a common denominator

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Oh wait

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Hold on

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I don’t change 4 yet until I need to get rid of the fraction huh

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But still

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I wouldn’t be left with 1

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On the lhs

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Bro I kinda gotta dip to school but thank u tho

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Bye

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.close

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regal patio
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yo

calm coralBOT
regal patio
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someone please help me learn whatever the fuck sin cos tan is

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😭

lilac nimbus
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sure

regal patio