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Probability mass function
didn’t work though
nevermind i still ended up with 1
i have no idea what the pmf is
To get 2 successes in x throws you need to have 1 success (and therefore x-2 failures) in the first x-1 trials then a success in the last throw
Write out the expression for this
this is what i did
there's a 1/36 chance he gets it, so suppose he does it first try, then the probabilty is 1/36, now suppose he doesn't get it and then gets it, that's 35/36 * 1/36, then suppose he doesn't get it twice and then gets it, that's 35/36 * 35/36 * 1/36, and that keeps going on until infinity
and then i took the infinite sum of that and still got 1 somehow
Why would that give you the most likely?
you are just doing a sum over a pmf which sums to 1 by definition
well i'm essentially just discussing each probably outcome, and summing them up
well i have no idea what a pmf is
Which has nothing to do with most likely value
oh yeah that's literally just giving the final probabilty of it happening
which is just 1
nvm then
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didn’t work
i probably did it wrong
never done pmf before
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any hints on this?
One way I think I can approach this is to take for eg some number > 12 which might divide most of these nums like 14 and then check which number 14 is not dividing and remove it
But any other number which is > 14 might also do this same exact behavior
So I would have to check for all numbers from current_gcd to min(list)/2 and choose the maximum number which satisfies this behaviour
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This is way better acc to me
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For finding slope of normal at a point we use negative reciprocal of derivative at that point
For tangent just the derivative
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wait how dyu differntiate that
take the derivative of both sides of the equation
remember that:
for f(x) = k, f'(x) = 0
for f(x) = x^n, f'(x) = nx^n
for f(x) = g(x)+h(x), f'(x) = g'(x)+h'(x)
And use chain rule too. For example d/dx(y²) = 2y (dy/dx)
ah damn my friend told me smthing about implict diff
i have not covered any of that
yet
chain rule as well
I only know basics of diff
thx tho
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have you learned L'hop?
should be 3 yes
Find the coordinates of point T, in which the tangent line to the function f(x)= x^2-7x+6 makes 135 degrees with the positive direction of the x axis. Find the equation of this tangent line
✅️✅️✅️BETTER TRANSLATION b) To find the coordinates of point 7, where the tangent to the graph of the function f(x) = 3x²-7x+6 concludes with the positive direction of the abscissa axis an angle of measure 135°. Find the equation of the tangent line at this point.
Please help me out brother
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You could make a table or try to graph it
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I’m not sure how to answer this if someone could explain how it would be great.
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have you attempted the question ?
Yeah, my answer is 23.1% but I’m 99% sure that’s wrong so that’s why I asked for help
231
I’m not quite sure I’m sorry 😭
yeah
$$
E = mc^2 + \int{0}^{\infty} e^{-x^2} ,dx + \sum{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n^2}{2^n} - \lim{x \to 0} \frac{\sin(x)}{x} + \left( \frac{d}{dx} e^x \right) \bigg|{x=1} + \left( \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial y^2} \right) - \frac{a + b + c}{a^2 + b^2 + c^2} + \left( \oint_{\partial \Sigma} \vec{F} \cdot d\vec{r} \right) + \sqrt[n]{x^n + y^n}
$$
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Ohh right
prepare you to see mega equation
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I'm supposed to find out whether -1 and 3 is a max, min or neither (was told to use the second derivative test) what am i doing wrong
I got when x=-1 its a minimum (but apperantly its a maximum) and I got when x=3 its neither (and its a minimum)
ohh
ok so you know wiht the second derivative test you plug in the critical point
to test its concavity
then f''(x) < 0 it is concave downwards
which makes it a maximum
when f''(x) > 0 it is concave up which makes it a minimum
think about it
when its concave downwards the extrema is at the top of the curve
making it a maximum
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$\int_{1}^{3} x^x , dx$
Alex
$\int_{1}^{3} e^{x \ln(x)}$
Alex
$\int_{1}^{3} \sum_{N=0}^{\infty} \frac{x \ln(x)}{N!}$
Alex
is this correct for now?
Well it should be x^n ln^n (x) shouldn‘t it? Cause of the expansion of e^x
x^n/n!
,w series e^(xlnx)
$\int_{1}^{3} \sum_{N=0}^{\infty} \frac{(x \ln(x))^N}{N!}$
Alex
Ok, can i interchange now the sum and integral? Cause it looks illegal to me
Fubini‘s theorem iirc. You can swap them if everything converges absolutely or something like that
I don‘t know the specifics. However, for your information i‘m fairly certain this integral doesn‘t yield a nice closed form
i can then take N! Out
$\sum_{N=0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{N!} \int_{1}^{3} (x \ln(x))^N$
Alex
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is a) -0.3?
in my book its 286.1
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Oh you’re only approximating it?
,calc 15/49
Result:
0.30612244897959
Yeah your approximation is pretty close then
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what are you thinking
i dont think thats correct
thats the problem 😭
how’d you get this equation
think about what the two smaller angles sum to
so it would be 5x + 53 = 128
yeah
the reason your other eqn didnt work
is cause u just assumed that the big angle was split in half
nw
ok
since they're all the same angle
u couldve just said 4(x-2) = 180
but yeah
lmaoo
😭
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,w radius of convergence of (-11x)^n/(√n+10)
only right endpoint is included
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ah ty
idk why two calc show differnet answers
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Hey! I was wondering if someone can point me on the right direction to get this one right. I am working on a school project, where I am basing my algorithm from this one. Originally, I solved it to the second image. But after experimenting, the second one (my solution) just explodes. The first one works though. I can just use it, but I want to understand why that is the solution. I can provide any more needed context. Thanks a lot!
(first image is original paper, second and third my solutions)
My attempt for the solution
But as explained, in the practice that doesnt work, and in that paper the solution they tell is a different one
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Find the line of intersection of x+y+z=1
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
then $y+z=-1$
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
but I'm not able to relate $y+1=z$ to x
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know
you know x = 2 and y+z = -1
thats a line for me
what do you call a cartesian form?
x-a/p=y-b/q=z-c/r
even the vector form is fine with me
line = (2,0,-1)+t(0,1,-1)
how did you get the direction cosines
line = P + t (Q-P), where P and Q are points on the line. For P take y = 0, for Q take y = 1
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think about the perfect squares which are around those
the values have to be in between
between 2 and 3 since 2^2=4 and 3^2=9
yes
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hello
i have to show that this is continuous
and that this isnt
but i struggle to find a way to start
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You want to use k-lipschitz I think
This is a typical way to show continuity in topology
And also because you work with metric space
ok i look into it
but it also works if i map the funktion to its derivitive yes?
the funktion goes from f to f'
Yes
ok ty
I said yes for that mb
I'm not fluent in English, may you explain me what mapping a function is please ?
if you map a to b you start with your function and get values in a value range
but im not fluent in english either so idk if that is a good formulation
May we speak the same language, where are you from ?
So when you will use Lipschitz you will have to use this :
In this example the "g(y)" is for you D(f) whis is equal to f'
Which leads to something like
$$ |f' - g'| \leq K|f-g| $$
dragonrard
I decided to take to vectors f and g froc C^1
ah ok
Be careful with what are your vectors in this example
Here, tour function D is from C1 to C0
The vectors are functions and not reals
ok
So your objective is to find a K whicj works
and K ist just a number right
Yes, it must not depends on vectors
For your exercise I don't understand what are $$ || \cdot ||{C^1} and || \cdot ||{I}$$
dragonrard
I is an interval and C1(I) represents the space of continuously differentiable functions
so II . II is the norm with C1
You have the definition of these please ?
Because in these exercise sometimes we prefer working with $$ || \cdot ||_\infty $$
dragonrard
C^n := {f : I → R | f n-times continuously dierenceable}
C^∞ := {f : I → R | f infinitely often continuously dierenceable}
stetig = continuous
I know the C^n but how do you define your norms ?
You must have definition of the both, don't you ?
I is just the interval [a,b]
So work with
$$ ||D(f) + D(g)|| $$
And see if you can do something with your norm definition
dragonrard
For the both, but as you know, when in math you want to say something does not exist, you want to suppose it exists and to show an absurdity
ok so for the first i try to show its not continuous until i get a contradiction and for the second i try to show that it is continuous until i get a contradiction right
For the first you work normally
For the second you work by the absurd
"by supposing D continuous we have "
"So we have "
.
.
.
"Impossible"
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does a column of 0's affect the column space of a matrix?
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The column space of matrices A and B is a plane in 3D. The column space of A + B is the whole R3 space
my textbook said that the column space of A + B is "usually" a plane in R3
"find matrices 𝐴 and𝐵 such that their corresponding column space is the plane of all vectors perpendicular to (1,1,1)"
for matrix A. I chose the above (2 independent columns and one dependent column)
for matrix B I did the same
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Another Sage question: So something like this correctly shows me the roots. How do I do it with any constant a instead of 7?
I think f.roots(x) works
it thinks that a is the variable because it comes before x in the alphabet
you might need to make x a variable aswell
Ah, yep, seems to work. Thanks!
Can you link me the one you mean, please? There are multiple ones
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this also works
var('a')
R.<x> = CC[]
f(x) = x^2 + a
f.roots(x)```
Thanks!
if you want to specify the ring
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compare the real and imaginary parts
$a + b = 5 \ -2ab = -12i \ ab = 6 \ \ a + b = 5 \ ab = 6$
real part = real part and imaginary = imaginary part
pixel
what now
Yea
solve the system
you have a+b = 5 , ab = 6
$a + b = 5 \ ab = 6 \ \ a = \frac{6}{b} \ \ \frac{6}{b} + b = 5$
pixel
like this?
yep
like that or you could just look at the trivial solution
2,3
damn ur profile about
$\frac{6}{b} + b = 5 \ 6 + b^2 = 5b \ b^2 - 5b + 6 = 0 \ \ b = 2 \text{or} b = 3 \ a+2 = 5 \ a = 3 \ \ a+3 = 5 \ a=2$
whats trivial solution
3+2=5
i do a subtle amount of jumping 
what college/univ bro?
pixel
yes
a = 2, 3
b = 2, 3
a = 2,3
b = 3,2
yes yes right mb
not in college yet, i start in sept
Oh where will you be joining?
yes
in dublin probably
Cool
wbu?
I will be giving Jee
next year?
oh thats far away
lot of time to prep, gl
Damn I wanna go abroad
giving SAT,AP etc
Lets see what destiny holds for me
it's a ratrace in US too, very low acceptance rates
Yeah trying for several univ in and out of us
ic
um could we discuss how you applied etc in dms?
yeah sure
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is the answer, $310 per dollar, or $310 per thousand dollars?
I'm not sure how to get the right units
well
if the problem said
"where x is the amount spent on advertising in dollars"
what would the answer be
$310 per thousand dollars?
the profit is in thousands too
i think it should be 310 thousand dollars
idk
it will be
310 thousand dollars per thousand dollars spent on advertising
assuming you calculated 310 correctly
wait why not per dollar?
cuz x is measured in thousands
if this were the problem
it would be per dollar
ok so for the original question, $310 per dollar spent is wrong? (units) bc that's how it is in my book
well if it's 310 thousand per thousand dollars, it's also 310 dollars per dollar
i guess
it seems wrong but idk
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how do i determine whether this serie converges
divergence test it
yeah btu i have to give a justification
ik its divergent
use divergence test
oh so i put this whole thing to a limit
and i LH it?
yeah that works
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excuse me
6 pink, 3 navy, 1 red, 1 blue, 1 green, 1 orange
yes
just
putting that there so i don't have to open the image every time
so
if there were just 1 of each
it would be 3!
but
there are 8
but
6 are pink
so
i'm not sure
but i think
it's 8!/6!
,calc 8!/6!
Result:
56
why
because
6!
gets rid of the different arrangements of pinks
because they don't matter
!15mins
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wdym why?
the 6! is the number of ways you could arrange it if you had 6 pink blocks
but we do not care about the different pink blocks
we have to remove them
but the question has all the pink
yea
6 pink
but we do not care about which pink is where
PPPPPPRO is the same as PPPPPPRO, even if the blocks are different
but the PPPPPP can be constructed 6! different ways
and all of them are the same to us
so we need to divide the 6!
does that make sense?
you in asia?
australia
really really late
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calculate the length of the diagonal of the regular body in the figure
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yeah it seems fine
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Can someone help me to do the integral of this function pls
is the integral $\int_{2}^{4} \big(\frac{5x}{3x^2+6}\big)^2 dx$
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what about the π
ok so there's an extra pi
that's largely irrelevant to the integral itself
but is the rest fine?
looks fine to me
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Sry I was testing, its my first time here
So I have to calculate the Volume of the functuon
And the formule is
V = pi . Integrale f(x)^2
But idk how to continue the calcule
@white ridge @halcyon rock if you can look at it quickly 🙏🏼
you have to use partial fractions
first take 3 common (squared so 9) in the denominator and 25 out from numerator
so effectively you're integrating $\frac{x^2}{(x^2 + 2)^2}$
tyler
then make numerator +2 and -2 so x^2+2 -2
split it to get $\frac{1}{x^2+2} - \frac{2}{(x^2+2)^2}$
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can someone help me solve this
im like 90% sure i did it wrong so we can start from scratch
The way you did it is fine (ignoring the crossing out, and the lack of function arguments)
like the last 2-3 lines is where i messed up right?
function arguements like theta?
You didn't mess up at all
and yea, theta (or whatever)
can u help me finish then
You could have done it a bit quicker though, though what you did was valid: write (cos(t)tan(t) + sin(t))/tan(t) = cos(t)tan(t)/tan(t) + sin(t)/tan(t) then work with that
And you're done, you got to 2cos(t), which is what you wanted, wasn't it?
wait this is correct?
ohh i thought fs it was wrong
the 2 is seperate from the sin?
That's fine (of course with the assumption that sin(t) is nonzero, but that automatically comes from the fact that you divided by tan anyway)
And it's multiplied by sin, it's not e.g. an argument of it, so you can like leave it outside and then turn what you had into 2cos(t)
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we substitute x+1 for x right?
i would say x-1
can you explain
if h(x) is f(x) translated one unit to the right, h(1) should be f(0)
so h(x) = f(x - 1)
(and h(x + 1) = f(x))
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is this correct ?
thx
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@delicate pumice for this
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How do you 
(do you have any ideas at all for it?)
Where did u get this problem from
uh ik sin goes from -1 to 1
Uh-huh, so sin^4 is at most 1 (and at least zero) 
Any idea of a test you could use here? 
Yep, there you go 
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I need someone to explain to me how word problems work in systems of inequalities
okay inequalities... hm.
like im stuck on this one
Ethan makes $6 per hour mowing lawns and $7.50 per hour bagging groceries. Last week, he made a total of $129. The difference between the number of hours bagging groceries and the number of hours mowing lawns is 10. How many hours did Ethan spend mowing lawns
Do you have word problems given to you? Or what's going on exactly?
that one
Is this an inequality though?
it should be
tells me to set up a system of equations, then solve by substitution or elimination
None of this has to do with inequalities though...
ohh thats my fault, the whole title was system of equations and inequalities
oopsie
Okay, let x be the amount of hours spent mowing lawns, and y the amount of hours spent bagging groceries
In terms of x and y, how much money was earned?
In terms of x and y, not just the final amount
No, x and y the amount of hours worked, not the pay per hour
Okay, if I make $6 per hour mowing lawns, and I mowed lawns for x hours, how much money did I make from mowing lawns?
6x
7.5x
no. x is the amount of hours spent mowing lawns. Not bagging groceries. We're using y for that variable
yes
So if we made 6x dollars mowing lawns and 7.5x dollars bagging groceries, how much money did we make in total?
6x + 7.5y = 129
lemme see
could you not solve it on its own ? cuz the questions in my work only provide one equation for each question
hint, you were given a difference of 10 between two things. Can you write that algebraically?
so do i just solve them like normal ?
yep
my main question is how do i know what is x and what is y and everything else for the questions ? is there a guide ?
That's a connection you just need to come to learn on your own
As you read a question, you must try to realize what quanities are given, which are unknown, and how do they all relate
I chose the names x and y arbitrarily as they are common. You can call them whatever you want
You're dealing with a trick now of turning english expressions into algebraic expressions
For example "It costs 5 dollars to enter the park, and 2 dollars per ride", model the total cost algebraically. I can choose x to represent the total number of rides ridden, and the total cost as y. Then the I can write it algebraically as y=2x+5
so for example Joe only has nickels and quarters in his piggybank, he has 94 coins total 8.85. how many of each coin do you have ? How do you do this ?
nickels and quarters are x and y
5x + 25y = 8.85 ?
and x + y = 95 ?
they would equal 885 and 94
also valid
is there an easier way ?
possibly, but I doubt it
and what of the second equation ?
what of it?
you need 2 equations
yes, you wrote 2 equations
and is the second correct ?
no, as I stated above it should equal 94
I just said yes...
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is the correct way to do this to
- find the gradient with (y2-y1)/(x2-x1)
- use y - y1 = m(x-x1)
or is there a quicker way with only one formula??
if u look all the lines given have different gradients
so u just have to work out the gradient in this question
are my methods correct though?
yeah
not really
but i got it quicker by substituting
thanks
line of best fit with 2 points is just the line connecting them
like trial and error?
yes but if you're putting them into each equation isnt that just trial and error
i just realised, since every gradient is different i only have to find the gradient
im so dumb
my bad guys
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abstract algebra course, what should Z_20 mean here? I know its a modulo group but i dont know if the operation is addition or multiplication
other two questions, if that makes it easier to guess
The operation in Z_n conventionally is addition modulo n
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if a matrix has n jordan blocks for some eigenvalue lambda, then why does that imply the geometric multiplicity of lambda n?
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does it matter wher i place the vertices
It's convention to go clockwise or counterclockwise
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What is the irrational root theorum?
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thx ig?
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Im working on these questions and i have no idea how to set it up
if anybody could give me any pointers on formulas or anything of that sort
that would be much help
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nah they deleted my question 😭
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Hi guys where did I go wrong ?
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how do you find the sum of the sequence : 3, 8, 15, 24, 35. Assume n starts at 1
so
to do this,
we have to first use the eq
ik its like n^2 -1
which eq
let me write it out
(n(a1+alast))/2
so the number of terms, times the first plus last, divided by 2
thats arithmetic
are you asking for a proof, or for an answer
or rather, does the problem require a proof
like the formula
One solution would be to use Wolfram Alpha to get the formula and then prove it by induction. But I know that's pretty lame.
The way that formula could be derived is by finding the formula for an n^2 sum, which has several different methods which honestly are pretty advanced/difficult
ok so i just need summation notation right
to do what?
and then the final formula could be obtained by combining that with the -1 terms in the obvious way
you can express the sum using summation notation yes
mhm
but extracting the closed form partial sum in terms of k requires more work as stipendi states
ok ok
what did you use here to get that
is that a site
the math calculator everyone uses
oh alr thanks
I would like more context as to what "assume n starts at 1" means though, like what's n
im pretty sure it just wants u to use an-1 or smth
I mean I wasn't really paying attention to the details here but the partial sum formula I gave is not for 3+8+15+24+35+... with k terms as Mqnic pointed out
That just shifts the question to what is an-1
Sometimes n is used to denote the index of the nth element of a sequence. Sometimes n is used to denote the length of the sequence. If n is an index, then "starting from n=1" doesn't really mean anything because there is an infinite sequence of terms and which term you decide to call the first one is a completely arbitrary choice
oh ok
Under some generous assumptions we can of course assume that 3, 8, 15, 24, 35, ... defines the sequence a_n = n^2 - 1, but note that if we want 3 to be the n=1 term then in fact we must have a_n = (n+1)^2 - 1
So I suppose 3, 8, 15, 24, 35, ... doesn't define just one sequence, but rather an infinite amount of different sequences depending on which term you decide to call the first
And note, a_n = n^2 - 1 would be a completely reasonable sequenceification of the string "3, 8, 15, 24, 35, ..." because then the 3, arguably the "first" element, would have the index 0, which is how programmers count things
if we're just doing math for fun then we can leave the discussion at that but if it's super important that you get the right formula for your assignment then it would be very helpful to get the exact problem statement to try to figure out how they want the sequence to be defined
Of course something that resolves some ambiguity here is that in the a_n = n^2 - 1 sequence, the n=1 term is actually zero, so it doesn't affect the sum either way
So to me it seems that that formula given by Wolfram Alpha should be correct pretty much no matter how you interpret the assignment
hmm actually not quite because you'd be missing the last term
so... the right formula is probably either what I posted, or what I posted plus (k+1)^2 - 1
but either way to me that's a seriously unimportant detail and what's actually important is that you understand how many terms and which terms are included in a given partial sum formula
In fact I would argue that it's your duty to specify which sum your formula gives the answer to, given that it's not clearly defined in the assignment
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does it matter where i place the letters?
no
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is it true that on a frictionless ramp, an object being launched up the ramp will always reach the same height no matter how steep the ramp is?
yes, do you know how to justify why?
no i just heard someone say it and wasnt sure if it was true or not
if youre familiar with the fact that potential energy is mg*h, since mg doesnt change and the amount of energy does not change, you know that height will not either
but since the object is getting launched up the ramp
isnt kinetic energy what we should be looking at?
since the object is in motion
or am i midunderstanding
K initial = U final
so K initial = mgh
since three of those variables are constant, the fourth must also stay constant
yw :)
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how do i know which way
is it asking to go from left or right
cause if my starting point is the blue triangle i would shift it to the right
but if my starting point is the red triangle i would shift it to the left
so how am i suppose to know what my starting point is
A'B'C' is the image. The image refers to the triangle AFTER transformation
so it goes from ABC to A'B'C'; it's shifting to the right
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for a vector function to be solenoidal, is the divergence being zero the only condition? shouldn't the curl also be non zero?
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given integral:
$$
\int{\frac{1}{(x^2+16)^2}}dx
$$
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need to find F(x)
$$
\int{\frac{1}{(x^2+16)^2}}dx = \int{(\frac{Ax+B}{(x^2+16)^2}+\frac{Cx+D}{x^2+16})}
$$
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i got:
$$
Ax+B+(Cx+D)(x^2+16) = 1
$$
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and when i solved it i got:
$$
\frac{B}{(x^2+16)^2} = \frac{1}{(x^2+16)^2}
$$
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I got literally the same thing, is there mistake somewhere or i need to use something different?
Put x=4costheta
substitute?
Ye
So the method i used is useless?
Wait
Are u sure about the partial fraction formula
i think yes
i think you should recheck your PFD
The solution is:
A = 0
B = 1
C = 0
D = 0
Is your decomposition valid? Yes. Is it useful? No. The problem is that there's no factors to break up
something seems off
Whoops! I meant B = 1, A = 0
right then
I tried to substitute x^2+16 = t, but as i see it doesnt result in anything
so i have to use trigonometric substitution
this one
Yea partial fraction ain't helping
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There are 10 students to be seated in desks arranged in 2 rows of 5 desks each
Alvin and Bobby should sit next to one another in the same row but Calvin and Delia are not to sit in the same row. Find the number of ways the children can be arranged
sounds compicated ngl
IEP
Inclusion-Exclusion principle
well yeah you could find (AB in row 1) − (ABCD in row 1) − (AB in row 1, CD in row 2)
and multiply by 2
So here were my first thoughts
Let n be the number of ways the children can be seated
n = number of ways children can be seated with A and B together - number of ways children can be seated with (A and B) AND (C and D) together
This should be
$= 8*8!2! - 82!62!*6!$
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that's alsmot right
almonts
What the error there?
6 is where yo uput CD in the same row as AB
