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umbral wraith
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oh

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oh yeah :/

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sorry so 360 - 72.645?

dull wagon
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if it was i wouldn't have bothered with trying to get you to draw that arc

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yes

umbral wraith
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NNooooo

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i accidently didnt round it

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i suck at maths 😭

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can you help me with one last quesiton, please? I think I get it, just incase

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wait @dull wagon I dont think ik how to do this ?

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Is like this ?

dull wagon
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poor diagram

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ideally you'd want to draw this on a compass / coordinate axis

umbral wraith
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o h

dull wagon
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there's no sense of where anything is in what you drew

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all the info should be clearly indicated in some way on your diagram

umbral wraith
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is that more clear or no

dull wagon
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no

umbral wraith
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welp

dull wagon
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if i don't see any of
coodinate plane / compass
any indication of north
starting / end positions of the boat
distance marked
its gonna be an immediate no

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coodinate plane / compass
that's the first thing you should start with

umbral wraith
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oh

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im 1% battery now too bruh

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I'd rather get a detention, its 1140pm here

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I guess I'll just stop

dull wagon
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go to sleep

umbral wraith
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welp yeah ima get detention cos its due in 20mins

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ok well see you, thanks

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How do you calculate this

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velvet mesa
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Hello
I have a question
Why we dont let "a" be negative in the exponential function (y = a to the power x)

main marlin
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well you can actually but only for integer values

velvet mesa
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Yes i know that

main marlin
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but if we have $(-1)^{\frac12}$ you get $i$ which is a complex number

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PajamaMamaLlama

velvet mesa
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So the reason is that its just hard to show it on graphs?

main marlin
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is because you can only graph integer values

velvet mesa
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So they dont use it that much(at least in high school)

main marlin
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like you can only graph $(-1)^x$ where $x\in\mathbb{Z}$

potent lotusBOT
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PajamaMamaLlama

main marlin
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,w (-1)^x

velvet mesa
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Uh thank you very much

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main marlin
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notice how it oscillates, only where the imaginary part is 0

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(at integer solutions)

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is where it can be graphed on a normal xy plane

velvet mesa
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Yes i got that thank you so much

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grave blaze
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Given random variable $X$ where $P(X=k) = \frac{k}{10}$ for $k\in {1,2,3,4,5}$. What is $E|X-EX|$ and $Var X$

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szahu420

grave blaze
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I calculated that $E X = 5.5$ and that the $E|X-EX|$ is equal to that, I am not sure if that's correct

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szahu420

grave blaze
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also my variance is negative so I am not sure what I'm doing wrong

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I got $EX|X - EX| = 3.6$

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szahu420

olive fox
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Are you sure the range of k is correct? it doesn't look like probability distribution

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For k=1..4 it would be

grave blaze
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oh yeah, I misread it is k = 1,..., 4

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my bad

humble fog
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Smol Fish

grave blaze
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that's for $k \in {1,2,3,4,5}$ which is not really alongside what the task is asking

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szahu420

grave blaze
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Just let me know if the following is true $$E|X - EX| = \sum_{k \in {1,2,3,4, 5}}P(X = k)|k - 5.5|$$

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szahu420

humble fog
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i also did the same

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all right thanks

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grave blaze
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Given $EX = 5$ and $\sigma(X) =2$ what can we tell about $P(X \geq 10) \leq ?$

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szahu420

grave blaze
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We obviously have to use the Chebyshev inequality here, so $P(|X - 5| \geq 5) \leq 4/5$

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But i don't know how to handle that absolute value

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raw saffron
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@buoyant thistle hello bob

remote mural
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are you trying to graph 2-lnx/x^2

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do you have f'(x)

raw saffron
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do you guys know how to solve derivatives, limits, graph functions?

remote mural
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can you write it again here

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i cant see it well

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no i just want f'(x)

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what is the domain of f(x)

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so x>0

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then x^3 is also always positive

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so the only thing you have to consider in f'(x) is 2lnx-5

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can you graph 2lnx - 5?

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its alot simpler than using a table

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so are you able to do it

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ok

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is there a restriction in your question

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then just try it out once

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try graphing 2lnx-5

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so thats f'(x)

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check where its negative and positive

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but x^3 is irrelevant

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because its always positive

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so you only need to consider 2lnx-5

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no

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you only need the critical points

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to graph something

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if you can, you should remove irrelevant parts in f'(x) so that you have something thats easily drawable

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because you only need plus/minus sign of f'(x)

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and thats easily checkable if you have an approximate graph of f'(x)

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its simpler this way

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why

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you already know where the minimum is

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you just do (e^5/2, -1/2*e^(5/2))

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you dont have to approximate

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well e^something is always positive so

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multiplying -1/2 will give you a negative value

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thats it

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thats enough though

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lemme show you

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thats enough graphing

remote mural
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why would you want to approximate the y value

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that information is enough

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no question will ask you to approximate -1/2e^5/2

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youre not a calculator

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by the way i suggest doing f(e^5/2) again

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i think its a bit off

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yes

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e^5/2 is right

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just try f(e^5/2) again

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hexed oriole
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It’s my last one

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maiden shale
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bro assume 2nd eqn to be true

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mark few lattice points on the graph

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make them satisfy the assumed eqn

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and obtain the variables ...

hexed oriole
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Yea idk how to do that

maiden shale
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identify a lattice point for me

maiden shale
hexed oriole
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I just want it solved man plz

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It’s my last one

maiden shale
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i aint gonna give u the answer

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im telling u the method

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step by step

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ebon quartz
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Having a hard time with this word problem, I'm fine doing regular problems- but word problems always stump me. I don't know how to set them up. I know Work = Rate x Time.

ebon quartz
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I guessed on the other one, and I need to not do that.

left bay
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First of all, you are given that 1.5r = a, because the assistant takes 1.5 times as long as the repairman.

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For the second information, you need to combine their shoe making power (so to speak). How many shoes per hour can they make combined?

The repairman can make 1/r shoes per hour, and the assistant can make 1/a shoes per hour, so in total
1/r + 1/a shoes per hour for the pair of them.

They need to make 10 shoes, which will take them 10/(1/r + 1/a) hours. This has to be equal to 6 hours, so your second equation is:

10/(1/r + 1/a) = 6

ebon quartz
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What does the a stand for?

left bay
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a is the repair rate of the assistant (in hours per shoe).

ebon quartz
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Gotcha, thank you.

left bay
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np

ebon quartz
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Let me see if I wrote this correctly.

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I still don't really understand.

left bay
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What part?

ebon quartz
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How to Solve it. Normally the equation is written differently,

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I'm stuck, for the most part.

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I'm doing my best to solve it, but I'm pretty sure I've been on this for an hour now. I apologize.

left bay
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Ok, is there any particular part of what I wrote that doesn't make sense?

ebon quartz
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Normally I'm used to it being written like a fraction, instead of /, I know that / means division which is a fraction, but the format is not lining up for me,

left bay
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No worries

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The repairman can make $\frac{1}{r}$ shoes per hour, and the assistant can make $\frac{1}{a}$ shoes per hour, so in total
$\frac{1}{r} + \frac{1}{a}$ shoes per hour for the pair of them.

They need to make 10 shoes, which will take them $\frac{10}{\frac{1}{r} + \frac{1}{a}}$ hours. This has to be equal to $6$ hours, so your second equation is:

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$$\frac{10}{\frac{1}{r} + \frac{1}{a}} = 6$$

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ebon quartz
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Thank you.

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so in other words, the repairman would make 1/r shoes an hour while the assistant makes 1/1.5r an hour.

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I still have no idea how to solve this. It shouldn't be hard at all.

left bay
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Yeah, that's right.

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So it's like, I can make some number of shoes per hour, say 2 shoes per hour. You can make 3 shoes per hour. In total, we can make 2 + 3 = 5 shoes per hour.

For the same reason, since the repairman can make 1/r shoes per hour, and the assistant can make 1/1.5r shoes per hour, we just add them up to see how many shoes they combined can make per hour.

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That's why I have above that they can combined make $\frac{1}{r} + \frac{1}{a}$ shoes per hour

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OneTrackPony

ebon quartz
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I understand, but normally you have numbers to combine. all we have is r and a.

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r+a is just that, r+a

left bay
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Yeah, for this particular problem, you have to juggle the symbols, which makes it harder.

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They represent numbers, you just don't know what they are.

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If it helps, you might assume some numbers while solving it, and them adjust them later.

ebon quartz
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Thanks for the assitance.

left bay
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np

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Also, you have been given some options for what number the answer might be. You can try out those numbers in the problem to see if they fit.

For instance, one option is that it takes the repairman 1 hour to fix a pair of shoes on his own. You can then calculate how long it would take the assistant.

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Hello, I need help with these two problems:

lament inlet
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For Q8, I'm not sure which answer is incorrect and I'm not entirely sure how to do Q9

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hallow summit
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What you refer when you mention (dy) ?

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i mean

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do you need to find the

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derivate ?

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ok

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understood

dull wagon
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no

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you messed up in your attempt to apply chain rule

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why are you multiplying the fraction by e^(2x^2) * 4x

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why those specific expressions

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what derivative are you using

hallow summit
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the last one should be 2x

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i mean

dull wagon
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what did you take the derivative of to get e^(2x^2) * 4x

hallow summit
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1/1+(e^x^2) times e^x^2 times 2x

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dx

dull wagon
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forget about the fraction component specificaly

hallow summit
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consider e^x^2 as u

dull wagon
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i'm asking about the chain rule component on the end

hallow summit
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just subsitute

dull wagon
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derviative of "what" = e^(2x^2) * 4x

hallow summit
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and countinuesly derivate

dull wagon
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now why are you taking the derivative of e^(2x^2)

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that's the mistake you made

hallow summit
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is equal to e^x^2 times 2x

dull wagon
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but why are you taking the derivative of that

hallow summit
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the derivate of e to the power of u is equal to e^u itself times the derivative of u

dull wagon
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you're supposed to just use the derivative of the inner function, (not its square)

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yes

hallow summit
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you're done

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it asks for dy

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that is dy

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what is the simplified

dull wagon
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what's the intended answer?

hallow summit
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expression?

dull wagon
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me neither

hallow summit
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listen, often at my college it happens when the results in the books and not quite accurate or even corret to the actual answer

dull wagon
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that seems to be the solution for 33,

hallow summit
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the answer that we get

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it cannot be more simplier

dull wagon
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similar shapes, not the same

hallow summit
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idk

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it's not like we did much

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novel sonnet
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I'm not sure how to start this one

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novel sonnet
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like class?

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vector calc

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mint ingot
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can you start by finding the equation of the new line?

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Hint: you can work out the direction it goes, and you know a point on the line

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@novel sonnet

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idle marten
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I'm wondering if the vocabulary "over 100" means, more than

pure kayak
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i would say so

idle marten
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basically is the inequality 100<12d + 34
or 100=<12d+34

muted lotus
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Over means over

fleet verge
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The first one

muted lotus
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So more than

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ember coral
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hi

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ember coral
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Is anyone able to explain why if you multiply say .8 by itself it becomes .64 it doesnt seem right

hot creek
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uhm

half jolt
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think of it as 8/10

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square that, you get 64/100

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thanks for the help thart makes sense now

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dusk quiver
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Hi, I was wondering if I can help solving this integral using the integration by parts method

exotic falcon
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What do you need help with? It’s fairly straightforward

dusk quiver
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so i need to learn how to evaluate the integral, but my answer was off

exotic falcon
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Show your work then

dusk quiver
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the method i need to learn is the integration by parts

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okay one sec

exotic falcon
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There are integral calculators online that will show you step by step for these btw, and lots of YouTube videos

dusk quiver
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i used a youtube video to follow along but i still ended up getting it wrong

compact drum
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this screams at me "introduce a new variable"

dusk quiver
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compact drum
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yeah, but new variable is fancy

exotic falcon
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Your algebra is wrong meelohh

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3rd to last line

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What happened to the x

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You had 3x * ….

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And just deleted it

dusk quiver
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oh yeah i think i added it back to the 2nd to last line right

exotic falcon
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No you didn’t

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Because you deleted the 1/6 too

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Redo your algebra, starting at the 4th to last line (because that line is correct)

dusk quiver
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ok ok ill redo it rlq

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this is the answer but idk how to get the /2 and /12 but im assuming its my algebra

exotic falcon
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It is, literally just double check your work

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You randomly dropped like so much stuff out of no where

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So just don’t do that and you’ll get it right

dusk quiver
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yep..

compact drum
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alright

dusk quiver
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gotta stop doing that

compact drum
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since you got the result

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here is another method:

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a bit longer in this case, but really nice

dusk quiver
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😁

compact drum
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the trick here is to swap integration and differentiation, which we cant always do

dusk quiver
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i dont think im there yet

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i just strated calc 2

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sooo 🙏 but ill keep it

exotic falcon
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It’s a bad method meelohh ignore it

compact drum
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whaaat

exotic falcon
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Requires excessive justification that you don’t know about

compact drum
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thre are some integrals which you can't really solve otherwise

exotic falcon
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Martin, OP is clearly, and like they just said, just in basic calc2

compact drum
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😦

exotic falcon
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When they’re supposed to be learning basic IBP

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Let them learn IBP

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Don’t suggest some other more complex method when they’re doing the basics

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It’s fun and cool and all, but it really isn’t helping them learn for their class

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thanks @exotic falcon for the second opinion 🙏

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split pawn
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A pension fund seeks to invest 1 million dollars. To satisfy its current and future obligations, the fund must earn $54 000 per year in interest. The fund has two sorts of investments; stocks paying 6% per year and bonds paying 4% per year. How much should the pension fund invest in each type of investment in order to earn the desired income

split pawn
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(Linear system word problem)

hexed grove
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well, first we need an equation describing the how much the fund must earn as a function of time, then we need some functions for the 6% interest and for the 4% interest

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then, we should be able to do linear combinations on the principals to solve the problem

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Can u like solve it or na

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why is lower bound y^2 and upper bound y+2

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im supposed to ingerate by substitution but the first x confuses me what should i do with it?

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<@&268886789983436800>

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could sm1 check help-33 please

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Yup

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if yes, what happened to the x before?

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x before?

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this guy

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it's still there, i dont understand

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but we used the x^2 from sin(x^2), took the derivative and put it on the left side

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isn't that 2x different from the x in my picture?

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it should be

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the same

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You took u = x^2 right?

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yes

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du = 2x dx, correct?

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makes sense

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yes

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we can multiply outside by 1/2 and inside by 2 to get this form or you can subtitute dx with du/2x

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outside and inside the integral

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oh i didn't know you can do that

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okok i think i have too many gaps in my mind

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i'm speedrunning this topic right now so i should learn more on my own

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thank you

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I see, it's just we are multiplying by 2/2 and constants are free to do whatever in intregral

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i think i now relealize what's happening

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Yup

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aaaaaa

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or more specically the du = 2x dx in our subsitution

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You can go about it as you please ig

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is there an easy way to do this

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or do i need to take 9 dot products

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D is an orthogonal base

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what are the d_i from the previous exercise

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B is an orthogonal base

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sorry i should say D is orthonormal

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at least thats kinda nice

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i can always write the matrix as a vector and the same for |d_i > < d_j| but that would require finding 9 matrices and then taking 9 dot products with a bunch of roots and stuff so i feel like there should be an easier way

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$\int \frac{2x-1}{x^2} e^{2x}dx$

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FungusDesu

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putting these on wolframalpha got me some Ei function, is there a way without using that?

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This one?

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No this is by parts and it’s normal

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Maybe u copied wrong in wolfram

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they just cancel out

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I didn’t have that, can u show what u see?

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is there a way to do this

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that isn't 4 pages long

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like can i notice something

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without being a genius

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otherwise id just differentiate, plug and chug and find recursive soln

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Option A?

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ye

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What does T do to the basis vectors?

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Transformation

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I mean that's technically correct lol

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I mean "where do the vectors go"

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how do u solve this? I would just throw it into my calculator but i know that’s not the proper way to do it

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it’s just the negative exponent that’s throwing me off

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another formula was p = a/ (1+i)^n

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my teacher mentioned using exponential rules but i don’t really remember

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a^-n = 1/a^n

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you are looking for the negative exponent rule

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since the whole term (1+ ...) has that -48 as an exponent

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you can turn it into a fraction basically to have a positive expoenent

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what would that look like

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look like where

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if i turned it into a fraction to have a positive exponent

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in the equation

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Oh ok i figured

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jeepers ok hold on

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your number is going to be just shy of 1500

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practically dividing by 1

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oh okay i just realized i was doing it fine 😭😭

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hello, this function definition is slightly confusing to me. I know that it passes through the point (a, an) but I don't have a single clue where to begin with graphing it.

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shouldn't that be An indefinite article

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# shadow sinew hello, this function definition is slightly confusing to me. I know that it pass...

try to find some context for this letter before the letter n, since the current definition is too open to pin down specifics
since the letter is missing from my computer, I've never seen it in my entire life, but it seems to be the key to comprehending the definition of the Indefinite Rticle
you could then use this definition to find functions through (, n) though lines simply work from the get-go

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guysh i forgor how to do this

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Hello, I am learning about relations and function
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I got this gap in my knowledge where i'm not sure how to derive functions without using software for it.
I got these tables explaining what to do when deriving different functions.
Or maybe it lies more in not understanding what makes a composite function?
I just don't get how

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Does not become

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you need to apply chain rule

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You do have a composite function

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Yeah but i don't see why it's a composite function

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I got a gap in my knowledge somewhere

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e^(something)

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e is the outer function, the something is the inner function

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for example, e^(sinx) is a composite function

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E(S(x))

jade mantle
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So..
something to the power of something
is a composite function..?

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Yeah, because exponentials are functions too

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maybe the easier way to think about it is to start with e^x

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let’s write that as E(x)

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The x in E(x) is a placeholder for an input

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i can replace it with another variable, an entire function, a smiley emoji, doesn’t matter

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In this case, if we let P(x) = x^3 -12x, then we replace the x in E(x) with P(x)

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So we have E(P(x)), which is composite

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does that make any sense or am I being incoherent

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Tough to answer. Because it does make sense. However i still don't understand it enough to apply it. Yet i'm unsure how to formulate a question which answer will make me understand.

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Could you explain when something is not a composite function, then? Because currently it seems that most functions I would work with will be composites.

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Addition, multiplication, and composition

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so anytime you lift anything to the power of anything
it becomes a composite?

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Composition is probably the hardest to recognize, because the other ones are fairly obvious I think

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You can raise a base m to the power of a function

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m^(function)

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m^x is itself a function, so we’re left with M(F(x))

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unfortunately, I’m not sure I can explain any better, not because there isn’t a better way to answer, but because my pedagogical skills are still developing lol

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my apologies

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No worries, you're doing miles better than my teacher anyway! xd
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Ok, just for my own insight
Dw, i don't expect you to solve it, but how would I go about deriving this function then? (See bottom image)
I'll go about my own thought process here
Because it seems to me then i'd need to use the chain rule 3 times here(?)
5 becomes 0
5x^3 is a function
e^3x is a function
2^3 becomes 0
cos(x) is a function

Admittedly i'm not sure where to go from here, as there's more than 2 products, but here goes:
I can imagine f'(x)=
(5x^3)' * e^3x * cos(x) +
5x^3 * (e^3x)' * cos(x) +
5x^3 * e^3x * (cos(x))'

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you got it right that (abcd)' = a'bcd + ab'cd + abc'd + abcd'

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however thats not used for f(x) here because its just two separate pairs of products

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each one has f'g + fg' done on it to split it

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If you don't mind, could you please walk me through how to solve it, just as I did above, and perhaps add why.

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is that $f(x)=5+5x^3\cdot e^{3x}+2^3\cdot\cos(x)$

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mtt07734

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(making sure youre not multiplying all three together)

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The function i sent an image of was purely for examplary purpose. If it makes a major difference if they're added or multiplied, would you care to explain that as well?
But yes, the function is correct

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then that can come later

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first, lets consider what the rules look like:

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(f/g)' = (f'g - fg') / g^2

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(f(g))' = f'(g) g'

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all of these act on something done on the outside

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for example in (5x^3 * e^3x)', the first thing done would be product rule since * is the outermost operation

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it wouldnt be the 3 * x buried deep in there

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think of outer/inner as like ((5 * (x ^ 3)) * (e ^ (3 * x)))'

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so that product rule does: ((5*(x^3))** * (e^(3*x)))'** = (5*(x^3))' * (e^(3*x)) + ( 5*(x^3)) * (e^(3*x))'

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Give me a few more min, bot
Also, tysm ING and mtt. I'll most likely send another question here after I've tried to work with this a bit more

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np

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Do you need help?

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@jade mantle

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????

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Just answer?

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@jade mantle

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Sorry for hogging up the channel!
I think I just need to sit with it for a bit as I don't yet understand but I'm not sure what question to even ask.

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Wait I am about to get answer for derivative question

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@jade mantle

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Answer is

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15x^2e^3x+15x^3e^3x-8sinx

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Thing is, I didn't really need the result. I just need to know how to get there without a CAS tool

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How would i progress through solving this function?

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x^3-6x^2+12

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$f(x)=x^{3}-6x^{2}+12$

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and?

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(Q1, how did you do that lol)

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Q2 how do you find the minimal value (and the corresponding argument) of this function?

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gotcha, thanks

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or single dollars

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double dollars is to align to middle

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in school not yet

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have done some on my own

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using derivatives; you can do second derivative test

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i got 3(x-4)x as the first derivitive

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to really know whats going on, i suggest you to read more on this

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3(x-4)x=0
6x-12>0

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So x=4?

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there is a more important question

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hm?

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in what interval are you trying to find the maximum?

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wasnt specified

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because if you really look for the entire real numbers

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it's unbounded

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it's a polynomial expression, i grows cubically

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i think the minimum is also unbounded

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They go on to positive and negative inf

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yes, check the graph

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0 is not the minimum

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no.

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the functions grows

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isn't f(10) > f(0) ?

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well yea

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but i mean a local maxiumum/minimum

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i wasnt specific- im sorry

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so there is no global maximum and global minimum

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so for local max and min, you need to specify an interval

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a function only attains max and min a closed intervals

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say between [-1,1]

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f(0) is the max

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- A local minimum of a function is a point where the function value is smaller than at nearby points, but possibly greater than at a distant point.
- A global minimum is a point where the function value is smaller than at all other feasible points.

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when we use the term local, we mean local in some closed interval

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yes, what is local elsewise

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the locality you specify is different from what i suggest

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maybe it would be easier like this. This is the exact problem I'm going over:

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i got up to 3-4

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what is [3-1] ?

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1

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whats the notation?

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its spaces to fill on the answer sheet

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its a question from an exam

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treat the [3-X] as blank spaces to enter your answer

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as you can see d is negative

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so eventually the terms of the series will become negative

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your task is to find what's the last positive term before it starts becoming negative

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4k+1 = 25

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$25-8n > 0$

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solve for n and make sure it's an integer

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then substitute the largest possible value of n in the general formula for n-th term

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yes

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your a_1 is 25

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you have n and d

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how can i help?

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what equation? where does n come from?

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there is no n in the example.

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you have to find k (what you did) and you have to finde the smallrst positive value.

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you had k = 6, so the three conescutive 41, 33 and 25. as the differnce is -8, the next elements of the sequence are 17, 9, 1, -7 wo the smallest positive value is 1.

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how often can you subtract 8 from 25 to be positive?

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so whats the smallest multipy of 8 less then 25?

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sorry, not the smallest multiply, the biggest multiply. and the biggest multiply of 8 less then 25 is 24, so 25-24 = 1 -> the smallest positive value in te sequence is 1.

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its just what i said. 25-24=1

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Does this mean I'm supposed to substitute the given P function into the differential equation? I'm very confused on what the question is asking here.

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Yea I agree I have no idea what the question is asking

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You could interpret it as plugging in the given P(t) into the DE

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its getting too late😭

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shits due tn

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i think it might be solving the ivp to get p(t) but i really don't know

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<@&286206848099549185> does anyone else have a better idea on what this means

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or happens to concurrently be enrolled in ma266 at purdue

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where does the -1 go ? shouldnt there be another -(5/6)

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the assignment is whats P(Omega) of a Dice roll where we want to know how likely it is for "6" to land on an even number of throws

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they renumbered the sum to start at k=0

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yes but can you just do that? doesnt there need to be somewhere the 5/6 goes?

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no, write out the first few terms of each sum

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you'll see they are equivalent

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basically did a change of variables:
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and then renamed j back to k

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ohh i guess its because 1-1 is the same as ^0 ?

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Hey (me again) so this time the question is "What are the odds for that a dice lands on 6 on an uneven amount of throws"

I figured out what the probability is for the throws at all and tried it but comparing with the Solutions showed i was wrong about 2 parts (yellow)

1: Why is it 2k-1 instead of k-1 like ive shown above?
2: How does it become 2k-1-1 and why

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that's definitely not right

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that first equality

wanton dove
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is it not?

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well even ignoring that they're summing over i but using k in the expression

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just check the i=1 terms for both

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for the first one it's (1/6)(5/6)
for the second its' (1/6)(1)

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i usually use i and the solution used k so i mixed it up

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wait, did you write this or someone else?

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ill send the actual solution wait

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ok

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so i was right about the k-1 part i guess but how they turned that to (2l-1)-1 is a mystery to me

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oh well that's a key difference

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or why even

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here they're only summing over odd values of k

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nw

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so they're using the fact that any odd number k can be written in the form 2l-1, where l is an integer

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ok so say the index is = 1, then it would be (2*1-1)-1 which becomes 0 though right?

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yea

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wouldnt that be an even amount of throws again

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same is true in the previous sum

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when k = 1, the exponent k-1 is zero

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doesnt k do that?

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so if its k=1 its my first throw?

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and are these probabilities true?

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if so then that explains the k-1

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kth throw --> exponent = k-1

wanton dove
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oh so k-1 is my actual "throws"

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well k-1 is the number of unsuccessful throws

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each has probability 5/6

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then you get one last throw which is successful

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which had probability 1/6

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where does the (2k-1)-1 come from though thats my biggest confusion

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what function does it bring

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you mean the l here?

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yeah they rewrote it weirdly enough

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we're doing that because we don't know how to sum over just k = 1, 3, 5, 7

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so we introduce a new variable l

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which goes over all positive integers, not just odd integers

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and then we need to adjust the exponent to compensate

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the change of variables is:
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which is always an integer because k is odd

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so k+1 is even

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wouldnt k+ make more sense then

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and when you divide an even number by 2 you get an integer

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is it harder to work with?

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k+ what

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k+1

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or l+1 in that picture

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try writing out the first three exponents in each sum

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ah nvm im so confused i think im confusing you hahaha

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ok will try

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for the first sum you have k = 1, 3, 5, so the exponent is 0, 2, 4

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for the second sum you have l = 1, 2, 3 so the exponent is 0, 2, 4

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the key is that (1) the exponents are the same either way and (2) summing over l = 1,2,3, ... is easier because we have formulas for that

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we don't have formulas for k = 1, 3, 5,...

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that's the motivation here

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oh so the geometric series im applying here wouldnt work without that gotcha

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right

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ah this is all so abstract but i thank you the second time

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this is a fairly standard trick but it's confusing the first time you see it

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its the last class before i am able to graduate so i hope itll not drag out longer

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thank you!

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ah well gl!

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x^2 -8x+15-2x+7
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5+√3, 5-√3

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I didn't understand why in the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem a succession of increasing natural numbers is formed.

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help pls

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I mean that's the construction

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You try to find an increasing subsequence (or decreasing) if i remember correctly

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Then that subsequence must converge

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Wait, why natural numbers though?

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Are you sure you don't mean the indexes

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so when I divide the intervals I have to make sure that I always have a number n greater than all those in the previous interval?

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You create a convergent subsequence by finding which indexes to take

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That might be the increasing thing you are talking about, the index sequence

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What's n?

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Can you show me the proof you are looking at?

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ok

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but only this part??

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Sure

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If i need more context ill tell u

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I got to the point that I have two sequences Ak and Bk, where Ak<Bk

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and Bk-Ak = (B-A)/2^k

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Alright

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the interval [a_1,b_1] contains the terms of the sequence a_n; therefore the first integer n_1 exists, such that a_n_1 ∈ [A1,B1]. For the same reason there exists a first integer n_2, among all natural numbers larger than n_1, so a_n_2∈[A2,B2]. So as to create n_1<n_2....<n_k...<...
so a_n_k ∈[Ak,Bk] . Since Bk-Ak =(B-A)/2^k . That is, Ak<=a_n_k<=Bk = Ak +(B-A)/2^k

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If you construct a subsequence with elements in the nested intervals, you will get a convergent subsequence

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You can even just take a_n to be the subsequence

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Or b_n

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Well actually

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No nvm

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You cant lmao why did i say that

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[A...,B...] are the intervals I obtained, dividing the previous ones with C=(B_k/A_k)/2

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Yeah sure

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You construct a sequence of increasing indexes, n_k

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So in [a_1, b_1]

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Take n_1

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So that a_n_1 is in that interval

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yes

half jolt
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And then u get the next, smaller interval

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Pick another element in it, but with bigger index than the last one

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U can do that since there are infinitely many elements there

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but why n has a bigger index

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if i choose like the bigger n of [a_1,b_1], How do I get a bigger n, in the next interval?

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so i mean if i choose this number b_1]

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Just choose it, u know it exists

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There are infinitely many elements in that smaller interval

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but are smaller then this n

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There must be an element in there with index bigger than n

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example pls

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but therefore increasing in the sense that for every interval there is a number n in it?

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You need to know the difference between an element in the sequence and an index

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index i think is like n_1 this 1 is an index?

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No

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Like

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Sure

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But

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Its hard to type a lot on phone

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Maybe someone else can help

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wait

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maybe i fix

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If this channel if still open when i get home ill try

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when I choose a number in the interval, it will necessarily have a greater one, because n is unlimited and since my interval has infinite elements???

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You choose an index n_1 so that a_1 is in the interval

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Then, take the smaller interval

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last question

half jolt
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Pick a next index n_2 so that a_n_2 is in that interval

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And n_2 > n_1

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U can do that since there are infinitely many elements in that interval, so just take one with bigger index

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You know it exists

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so it doesn't matter the size of the number, when he talks about an increasing n sequence, does he mean increasing in the sense of indices?

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like not the number 1<2<3<4, but n_1<n_2....<n_k

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Yes

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ah ok

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i understand

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thank you so much

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No problem

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Find the rate at which Rs.4000 will give Rs.630.50 as compound interest in 9 months , interest being compounded quarterly

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do i simply swap the x'es with the c?

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what c

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,rotate

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the 4

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all operations here are continuous, so yea

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the answer is so big

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a mere 5 digits

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help how do i solve this ;p

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try to factor by $(x-1)$ the numerator

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Use synthetic or polynomial division

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or of course you can l'hopital that bad boy if you're allowed to

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Need help with this question, not sure how to go about this or what to do

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like write B in terms of its elements, and then explicitly multiply out AB and BA

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oh sorry

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nw

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can anyone help me with part c

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how are 8 + 64/x and x + 8 related?

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im not too sure

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well you can start by multiplying 8 + 64/x by x to get rid of the denominator, what does that give you

terse valley
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8x

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is it

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a x 8 b

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is that the answer

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nevermind

lunar meteor
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and look there is something in common between 64 and 8 to simplify the equation

terse valley
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8

lunar meteor
terse valley
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so its 8ab

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the thing is ive got a picture of another classmate and the teacher said the correct answer is 3 + b-a

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btw is log2(8+X) related to your question ?

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yes

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its b

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b is 8+x

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a is x

lunar meteor
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look focous you simplyfied it until you got 8x+64 right

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so you can divide by 8

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and you will get the answer

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oh thanks

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i thought that was correct too

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just seeing the teachers work bamboozled me

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thanks

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your teacher is true

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is she

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i though the question was 8+64/b

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now i see its 8+64/x

lunar meteor
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so let me tell you how to simplify it
you see log2(8+64/x) is equal to log2 (8 . (1+8/x)) right?

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now you can use log properties
you will get log2 (8) + log2 (1 +8/x)

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log2 (8) equals to 3 as you know

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so its 3 + log2 ( 1+8/x) which you can write it as log2 (x+ 8)/x you can use log properties again
you will get 3 + log2 (x + 8 ) - log2 (x)
you know that log2 (x + 8 ) = b
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sorry i messed up at the start i thought was over b , tho i read its x

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I am not sure where to begin with

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I have restated sqr x to the power of 1/x

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if you can find the limit of the logarithm, if the world is nice then this will be the logarithm of the limit

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but how do get the b?

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$$\ln\left( \left( 1 + \sin(x) \right)^{\frac{1}{x}} \right)= \frac{1}{x} \ln(1 + \sin(x))$$

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