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dull wagon
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apple is 1?

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what exactly are you getting from doing

plug in the values of
a , b, c

autumn tusk
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yeah

dull wagon
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write out the whole thing

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don't oversimplify the description to

answer is no.1
because i have nfi what you mean by that

autumn tusk
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You have an expression a + b = c, where
a = c - b
b = c - a
c = a + b
If you eliminate the expression (a + b = c where a = c - b, b = c - a and c = a + b you get -2a - 2b + 2c = 0) and the given question (a + b = c) you get δ1. Then continue simplifying the expression with (a = c - b, b = c - a and c = a + b) . Every time you simplify the expression eliminate with the δ1, δ2,δ3 till infinity.

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now?

dull wagon
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again this changes nothing

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wdym by

you get δ1

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what's that supposed to be for

autumn tusk
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ok

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listen

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so

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the

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question

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a+b=c

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i gave the values of a, b, c

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so

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input the values of a,b,c

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in the question

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that is

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δ1

dull wagon
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still have nfi what you're getting at...

autumn tusk
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you

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get

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different

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answer

dull wagon
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answer to what

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you're still being extremely unclear in your explanation

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you just ended up with an equivalent equation

autumn tusk
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Substituting the values of a, b, c in the expression a + b = c you get [ (c - b) + (c - a) = (a + b) ] = -2a - 2b + 2c = 0, consider this solution as “Expression 1”. Now try to eliminate “Expression 1” and the given question (a + b = c), you get:
-2a - 2b + 2c = 0
a + b - c = 0

            -3a - 3b + 3c = 0

Consider -3a - 3b + 3c = 0 as “Solution 1”

We know that “Expression 1” has different variables like a, b, c (-2a - 2b + 2c = 0), so now plug in the values of a, b, c in “Expression 1” you get [-4(c - b) - 4(c - a) + 4(a + b) = 0] = 8a + 8b - 8c = 0, consider this solution as “Expression 2”. Now eliminate “Expression 2” and “Solution 1 ” we get:

            8a + 8b - 8c = 0
              -3a - 3b + 3c = 0
        
            11a + 11b - 11c = 0
        
Consider 11a + 11b - 11c = 0 as “Solution 2 ”
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We know that “Expression 2” has different variables a, b, c (8a + 8b - 8c = 0), so now plug in the values of a, b, c in the “Expression 2” we get [8(c - b) + 8(c - a) - 8(a + b)] = -16a - 16b + 16c = 0, now consider this solution as “Expression 3”. Now eliminate “Expression 3” and Solution 2” we get:
-16a - 16b + 16c = 0
11a + 11b - 11c = 0

            -27a - 27b + 27c = 0

It goes on till infinity

Hence, we get a series of -, -, + and -, +, +
We get -, -, + when we eliminate a greater even expression and a least odd expression of:
-ax - bx + cx = 0
ay + by - cy = 0

                -az - bz + cz = 0         (-, -, +)

Where “x” is constant through the entire expression having the same value which is plugged in with a, b, c where a, b, c is greater even expression. “Y” is constant through the entire expression having the same value which is plugged in with a, b, c where a, b, c is lesser odd expression. And “z” is the constant value that we get after the elimination.

We get +, +, - when we eliminate a greater even expression and a least odd expression of:
ax + bx - cx = 0
-ay - by + 3c = 0

                az + bz - cz = 0

Solutions for the given expression goes on like
-az - bz + cz = 0
az + bz - cz = 0
-az - bz + cz = 0
az + bz - cz = 0
…..
And so on

Hence, for the expression a + b = c where
a = c - b
b = c - a
c = a + b

dull wagon
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and gave it a different name

autumn tusk
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here

dull wagon
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a = c - b
b = c - a
c = a + b
are all different forms of the original equation
doing substitution into itself like this will either yield a trivially true statement or something equivalent to what you started with

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a + b = c isn't really a question

autumn tusk
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yeah they are different forms of the original equation

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it is

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when u read the question fully

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dumb!

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thorny sorrel
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why is this not -\sin\left(te^{-3t}\right)\left(-3t\right)\left(te^{-3t}-1\right)e

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cookie2

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gentle peak
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hello

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gentle peak
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how does one do 6.c

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well ik the answer is x=2 or x=-2

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but i dont get how

alpine stone
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5x^2 = 20

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x^2 = 4

dawn narwhal
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hello

marsh agate
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x² = 4. So x = +- sqrt(4) = +- 2

gentle peak
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ye how is it xto the power of 2 =4?

marsh agate
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just divide each side by 5

gentle peak
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why's that

marsh agate
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that it becomes x² = 4 ?

gentle peak
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alright but for 4.i

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its 4x to the power of 2 = 8

marsh agate
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4x² = 8 ? Same, divide by 4, gives x² = 2, so x = +- sqrt(2)

gentle peak
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oh so

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4 divided by 2 - 10 = x=+0 sqr of 2?

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ill take that as a yes thanks

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marsh agate
gentle peak
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wdym what

marsh agate
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didn't understand a single part of that sentence

gentle peak
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alright so

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4 divided

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by 2 and 10

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how does that make sense

marsh agate
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you don't divide by 2 numbers

gentle peak
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so its 2-10

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because you move 2 to the other side

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so 10-2?

marsh agate
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then just say 4 / (-8)

gentle peak
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so am i wrong or right

marsh agate
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what are you trying to do

gentle peak
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trying to see if i understand thats all

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so am i correct or not?

marsh agate
gentle peak
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you know what nevermind

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it doesn't matter thanks for the help tho

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celest scarab
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is this integration by parts no matter which way i go?

celest scarab
alpine stone
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Unless you integrate with respect to y first and then x

opaque dune
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I'd imagine integrating with respect to y first will give you the simplest path to the answer.

celest scarab
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i thought so too

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its still gonna be integration by parts tho isnt it?

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its been a while lol..

alpine stone
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No, rather u-sub

opaque dune
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Yep. Just checked and it looks like a obvious substitution problem after that.

celest scarab
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sad that I was going to attempt the usub off the rip but instead just overlooked it.

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thanks guys

opaque dune
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Should get e^(16) - 1 it seems from a quick calculation. The clue was the coefficient of the exponential being one degree lower than the exponential term.

celest scarab
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oh darn

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i misread the problem i think

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you meant higher?

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one degree higher right?

opaque dune
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$\int_{0}^{2} 6x^2 e^{2x^3}\dd{x}$.

potent lotusBOT
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stabulo

opaque dune
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Notice the derivative of 2x^3 is conveniently 6x^2.

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If u = 2x^3 then du = 6x^2dx so it quickly simplifies to

celest scarab
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omg

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man

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thank you

opaque dune
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$\int_{0}^{16} e^u \dd{u}$.

potent lotusBOT
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stabulo

celest scarab
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like i said its been months since i've done integration

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sad i forget it all so fast lol.

opaque dune
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😢

celest scarab
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i forgot the 6

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in front of the problem when i wrote

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so it threw me off completely lol

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thanks again!

opaque dune
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You could have wrote (1/6)(6) to compensate in that case though.

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Glad to help.

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vale valve
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Anybody know how to answer this?

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wise spire
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what are conditions for two quadrilaterals to be congruent?

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real stirrup
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Hi I would like to know if I’m doing these problems correctly so far

real stirrup
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this is my problem

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wise spire
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which problem?

real stirrup
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Hi

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All of them actually

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I did them all but idk if I was doing it right

wise spire
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ok share it first

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stark marlin
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lard

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i need help

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i need myself some lard please

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@real stirrup you here?

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Yes I am

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then close this channel

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@real stirrup

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loud pumice
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a,b are coprime, solve for a+b without partial fractions

wise spire
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decompose each term

loud pumice
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?

mellow crater
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Haven't you tried what I told you?

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partial fractions

loud pumice
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i cant use them Modus

wise spire
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i mean for example, 7/3^2*4^2 can be rewritten as 1/3^2 - 1/4^2

loud pumice
loud pumice
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well let's skip that nvm

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new problem:

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A number is said to be multiplicatively perfect if, by multiplying all its positive divisors, we obtain n ^ 2.
How many multiplicatively perfect numbers are there less than 100

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cerulean temple
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Hey, I'm currently trying to learn thales' theorem. Could anyone explain it to me ?

royal salmon
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it's easy to see from this theorem

cerulean temple
royal salmon
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as in that case, the angle would be 180, so the angle on the circumfernece would be 90

royal salmon
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let me have a look

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oh yeah I remember this proof

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do you want me to just shhow you it or do you want a hint

cerulean temple
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I'd prefer you showing me. I don't have any excercises to do it on, just trying to learn it

royal salmon
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alright gimme a sec

cerulean temple
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take your time

royal salmon
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what are the sum of the angles equal to @cerulean temple

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also they're isoscleles cus AO OC AND OB are all the radius

cerulean temple
royal salmon
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yeah of a general triangle

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but of tirangle ACB, in terms of alpha and beta

cerulean temple
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90 ?

royal salmon
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?

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in terms of alpha and beta

cerulean temple
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Oh yeah, one sec lets see

cerulean temple
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unless im missunderstanding it completely

royal salmon
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yeah I think you are

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what's angle CAB

cerulean temple
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right angle ?

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I do apologise if im getting this wrong, english isn't my native language so i might be getting half this stuff wrong :/

royal salmon
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triangle AOC is isosceles, so angle CAB = angle ACO

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angle ACO is alpha, as I labelled

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so angle CAB is alpha

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using the same logic what's angle CBA

cerulean temple
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OCB ?

royal salmon
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ye

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which is beta as I labelled

cerulean temple
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Yeah

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I think Im starting to get it

royal salmon
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so angles in triangle ACB = 180 = alpha + (alpha + beta) + beta

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180 = 2 alpha + 2 beta

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do you see the final step to finish the proof?

cerulean temple
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Sadly no

royal salmon
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angle ACB is alpha + beta

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180 = 2 alpha + 2 beta

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tehrefore ACB is 180/2 = 90

cerulean temple
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Ohhhhh

royal salmon
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QED

cerulean temple
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I get it now

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thank you kind sir for helping me ouit

royal salmon
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no problem

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wise stag
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Why is this wrong

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A number is said to be multiplicatively perfect if, by multiplying all its positive divisors, we obtain n ^ 2.
How many multiplicatively perfect numbers are there less than 100?

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leaden thunder
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just check all pairs of products of square primes

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2^2, 3^2, 5^2, (2*3)^2, ...

loud pumice
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thanks bud

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hi

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If you know that Pr(E|H) is very high, then you find out E is true, does it logically follow that Pr(H) is very high?

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amber bolt
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not really no

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it's just sometimes like that

fossil juniper
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do uk why u would say that?

amber bolt
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i;m not a psychology expert?

fossil juniper
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its not psychology

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**When you’re translating an argument into symbolic language, what would happen if you replace one and the same variable with multiple sentences? **

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wise spire
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"then you find out E is true" this phrase means nothing. whether an event happens or not doesn't change the probability

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solar aspen
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probability of 3 dices,addition of gained number is <7

rustic osprey
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honestly you may just want to figure out the cases in which the sum is less than 7, then divide that by the total number of possible combos (6^3 = 216)

solar aspen
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if the first dice is 6,it fails

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5 fails too

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<7

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not=

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1: (4,3,2,1)

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4,1,1

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3,2,1

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3,1,1

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man this is annoying

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too many probabilities

rustic osprey
solar aspen
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if a dice rolls a 5 it's a dead one

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2/3 at first one i guess

fair monolith
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1 1 1
1 1 2
1 2 1
2 1 1
1 2 2
2 1 2
2 2 1
2 2 2
1 1 3
1 3 1
3 1 1
1 2 3
1 3 2
2 1 3
2 3 1
3 1 2
3 2 1
1 1 4
1 4 1
4 1 1

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tell me if i missed any

solar aspen
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about 112 and 121

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are they the same?

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it gives the same number in addition

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but the second dice and third dice rolled different

fair monolith
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assuming orders matter

solar aspen
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i dont think it does

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since it just want addition

fair monolith
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1 2 1 means u get 1 on the first roll, 2 on the second roll, 1 on the third roll

solar aspen
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but yeah

fair monolith
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unless stated probably

solar aspen
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its different on the host of the probability

fair monolith
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cuz if it is "all dices are rolled on the same time" then orders dont matter

solar aspen
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its 3 dice

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rolled at the same time

fair monolith
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so just :
1 1 1
1 1 2
1 1 3
1 1 4
1 2 2
1 2 3
2 2 2

solar aspen
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the only numbers are (1-4)

fair monolith
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yes

solar aspen
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(x+y+z)<7

fair monolith
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ye

solar aspen
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hard part seems like the numbers will affect other numbers

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cant just 4!=24

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meh

fair monolith
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oh u're finding the denominator part?

solar aspen
fair monolith
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for the probability

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so far u got P = 7/something

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i assumed u were trying to find that something

solar aspen
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im just trying to work out an equation that shows how the number affects the other numbers

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idk if that's even possible

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4,1,1

fair monolith
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ohh

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so like for example u roll a 1 on the first try

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u want to figure out how the probability changes?

solar aspen
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you must roll (1-4) on the second dice

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but the second dice affects the number needed on the third dice

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hurts my head

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x=4 y=(1/6) z=(1/6)

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x=3 y=(1/3) z=?

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if y rolls a 2, z must get 1

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but feels like its the same

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just 2 and 1

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lol

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1 1

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1 2

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2 1

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2 2

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winter hazel
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does this hold for m=0? we cant use geometric series if m=0 right? also what if m>0, does this still hold? or is there anything we can use?

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Number 5

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hi

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Just consider the real part to be 0 and see what you get

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yes but i do i procced

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lemme see

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I feel like you should get a circle

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i got y squared - yi - 2y -2

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is that the equation of circle?

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@coarse apex

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Or is that a semi circle assuming that the equation of the circle is x²+y²-2ax-2by-c XD

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I may have calcation error but the technique

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Is this right

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They are not saying that Z is purely imaginary

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It says that the whole function is purely imaginary

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x is the real part of Z, not real part of (Z-2i)(zbar-1)

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Ohh so i put the long equation in an algebraic form

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Then say that x=o

coarse apex
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No

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Write the long equation and I think then you'll get it

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Ignore the upper part

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Its the circled one

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Like this ?

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Should i cross the the real part now ?

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Oh wait maybe it

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Should draw the circle then say that it only moves on the diameter of the circle (the one perpendicular to the x axis cz its imaginary)

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What

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You got the value of that function, right?

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Now what's the real part in it

copper stag
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Lemme draw it for demonstration

coarse apex
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Just equate that to 0

copper stag
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Yea but then the imaginary part is an equation of two unknowns

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Oh ok then the radius and venter are unkown

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Center*

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Do you know how to find the radius and center from the equation of a circle?

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No

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oh

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NVM then

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My phone autocorrected nvm to NVM

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That's weird

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Oh i wait yes i get it -2ax and -2by calculate the coordinates of the center

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C calculates the radius

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Which is equal to redical a²+b²+r

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X²+Y²-2ax-2by+c

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I got -8 as my final answer.

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I might’ve messed up I only learned it 2 days ago and I’m trying to understand

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no, you've made some sign errors and some questionable decisions

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like so many sign errors

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x^2 - 8x + 15 factorises to (x-3)(x-5)

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Sonny, you did some weird stuff after you got (x-3)(x-5)/(x-3)

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there was no need for any of that sign manipulation and the invalid work that went with it

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@fierce cradle what happened here

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don't blindly do patch work

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I didn't I swear that expression could factorize and I needed to do sign manipulation

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note that the reason the factored -1 out was because their coefficient of x^2 was negative

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which makes it easier to factorise

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also note that you had
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,W factorise x^2-8x+15

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Was the rest of the process right besides the sign changes?

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no

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oh

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for some reason the minus sign in
(x-5) turned into a +

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O

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there's valid manipulation and then there's changing stuff on a whim

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Yeah I'm sorry this was just a bad attempt

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X-5 = X+δ

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without the first sign screw up, you'd have
lim as x to 3 of (x-5)
at which point you can sub in x=3

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So this is the correct process?

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lim shouldn't be there after plugging in 3

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Could you please expand $/frac{−5x+9}{x^2 −3x+2}$ using partial fraction expansion, and the substitution method for solving or variables.

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What number is this

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5.99E-03*x + 16.5

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.00599x

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right?

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just weird how theres a 03

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Could you please expand $/frac{−5x+9}{x^2 −3x+2}$ using partial fraction expansion, and the substitution method for solving or variables.

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kangaroo rat

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$\frac{−5x+9}{x^2 −3x+2}$

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it makes it easier to work out

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hi, how does it become the second equation?

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this is right, yes?

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can someone point me in the right direction for this?

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i don't really know what to do here

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draw 2 triangles

empty creek
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yea i got that far too

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find 2 expressions for h

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that's really funny if so

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but yeah, just draw a triangle of all the distances first

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so that answer i am getting is 3806 feet

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but i used tan

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but if i do cot i get 4166(?)

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probably a problem in approximations

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but mount doom is 4500

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hmmm

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what 2 expressions did you get for h using tan

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assuming you labelled the unknown horizontal distance as something like x or a

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that's what i did at least

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what did you get x as

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14362

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im guessing you rounded things like tan 16 and tan 12 then

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yes

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if you can it's probably a good idea just to leave them as tan 16 and tan 12 in your calculations

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otherwise you won't get the exact correct answer

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the question instructs you to round to the nearest hundred so i guess it's 4200

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it's 4100

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but that's still 400 off from the actual 4500 height

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oh yes

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or at least that's what i got

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i am getting 4166

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so that rounds off to 4200

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i got 4107

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i wonder where is it that it's going wrong

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wait so the answers give 4500?

empty creek
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the book doesn't provide answers

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but mount doom from lotr which the question is very obviously reffering to stands at approx 4500 feet

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i mean i wouldn't trust the textbook to use the actual height of mount doom

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that's truee ig

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Well depending on how well you round the answers fall between 3800 and 4200 so clearly they're just assuming mount doom is 4100 feet

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i guess i can move on then

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they should have given nicer values ngl

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or atleast told the height of mount doom

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agreed

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well thanks brother

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let's close this

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np

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i don't get why $\frac{jz - j}{z-j} \in \mathbb{R} <=> (jz - j)(z(bar) - j^2) \in \mathbb{R}$

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Hi, any ideas how should I mathematically prove that Dijkstra works for digraphs where the only negative cost arcs are those leaving the source node?

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You have two possibilities :
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-By contradiction : consider a strictly shorter path and the first vertex that's different from Dijkstra

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You take P the path you get from Dijkstra and P' the other path. You take the first vertex of P' that is not in P

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Why isn’t there the possibility that x belongs to A and x belongs to C

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Is it because we don’t care about these cases since when belongs to A, it actually satisfies A union (B intersection C)

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both of those cases belong in the 1st case (x∈A)

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Hi, I'm trying to parametrize this but I'm not quite sure how to do so

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Kinda confused about the concept of parametrization in general

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I'm not sure how well I can help with that problem but I can help with understanding parametrization

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I'm relatively new to it too

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Sure, I mean anything helps

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Parametric equations you can think of as a list of functions for each variable

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So they'd be written something like $\alpha(t) = (\text{Function of x}, \text{Function of y}, \text{Function of z})$

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B\infty

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All in terms of t, which I guess could be anything

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So the function f(x) = x + 2 could be written

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$\alpha(t) = (t, t + 2)$

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B\infty

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Where the first part of that is how x behaves, and the second part is how y behaves with respect to x

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Given f(x) = x + 2, f(5) would be 7
As such, alpha(5) would yield (5, 7) which is the point on the graph of f(5)

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Oh sorry, I should probably mention, the constraint given is that a,b > 0

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Are you directly asked to parametrize this or is this to solve a problem?

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The first part is to directly parametrize it

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And then the second part is to use the parametrize to calculate the surface area by taking a double integral

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Can you parametrize it with a single variable or is two variables allowed?

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It would have to be two variables

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I think, at least

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It doesn't have to be two variables, it just wouldn't be a continuous parametrization (and probably not suitable for what you need to do, for integration) if it was a single variable

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But to do 2 variables you could do theta from 0 to 2pi and t for the y, yeah?

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Something like (a cos(theta), t, a sin(theta)) where 0 <= theta < 2pi and 0 <= t <= b

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ahh, I see what you're saying

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And then finding the surface area I would just take the double integral of r dr d theta with the bounds you mentioned?

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I'm also taking multivariable calculus right now, but my class hasn't gotten into double integrals yet. I am unsure, but that is probably right.

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Oh ok gotcha

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Yea, that parametrization seems right to me, but I'm still a bit iffy on parametrization as a whole

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Thanks!

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If y=x has been stretched parallel to the x axis by scale factor 2, will it be a stretch in y or x and what's the numbers be?

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Like x/2 or whatever

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hey boys

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Hello

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This is a isosceles triangle

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And

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CD and FE are the median

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I've to prove that CD = FE

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By vector method

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Anyone??

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is 1|3 true or 3|1 true
i forget the order....

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| stands for the word "divides"

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so you have 1 divides 3 and 3 divides 1, which one is true?

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1 divides 3

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what test would I use to determine convergence / divergence

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comparison I guess

round drum
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limit or direct

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wdym

round drum
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limit comparison or direct comparison

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hmm idk, what I have in mind is doing a taylor expansion

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Limit with 1/k^4 semms good to me

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Hmmm, maybe 1/k^3

round drum
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o does ln(k)/ k^4 not work

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well at infinity k^4 grows faster than ln(k)

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maybe you end up with 1/k^4

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Right, but that's not enough on its own for convergence of the series.

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What tests do you know so far?

round drum
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uhh

visual nimbus
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Spoiler ||D'Alembert ?||

round drum
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i know all the important ones

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root integral geo tele ratio pseries

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limit comparison direct comparison

long canyon
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I'd recommend limit comparison with 1/k^3.

round drum
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but wouldn't the limit diverge

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o wait

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k^3 mb

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but that lim approaches infinity though

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i mean it approaches

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0

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sorry

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but anyways

long canyon
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Lim of ln(k)/k should converge

round drum
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yea to 0

long canyon
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Ah, you have the weaker version of the test.

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L<inf means converge -> converge and 0<L means diverge -> diverge

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You can use integral test, but it's a bit annoying.

round drum
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mmmmmmm

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k lemme think a bit

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Or just ratio to 1/k^3, assuming you also don't have a bad version of ratio test. 🙂

round drum
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o wait

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couldn't i just

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use a direct comparison to ln(k)/k^2

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since that converges and is always more than ln(k+1)/k^4

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we can say that ln(k+1)/k^4 converges

long canyon
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K=1 is sad for the standard direct comparison, but you can remove finite inital terms

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And yes, that should work.

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but how would i prove that ln(k)/k^2 is convergent btw

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wat test for that LOL

long canyon
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Integral?

round drum
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oh then i might as well just use ln(k)/k and make it easy on myself

long canyon
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If only that converged

round drum
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doesn't it

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Does it?

round drum
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idk i'll find out now

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ok

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o wait they both diverge

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nvm

long canyon
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The original question should converge

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Because direct comparison with diverge doesn't mean that the first one diverges

solar spruce
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you can just compare it to (k+1)/k^4

long canyon
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I recommend trying ratio with 1/k^3

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Maximo's suggestion is also good.

round drum
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yea i still don't know about maximo's cause that converges to 0 and i just feel like sticking to the test I was taught

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L<inf means converge -> converge and 0<L means diverge -> diverge

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but ye ln(k)/k^2 worked

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uhh now the last question i got

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is

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how do i do any of this

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i just need one example and i could probably figure out the rest

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This is a concept question, testing if you understand what's going on.

round drum
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o ok

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so like

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the first one would be as simple as

long canyon
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Try plugging in sn in the first one.

round drum
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lim n > infinity Sn = L

long canyon
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Yep

round drum
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wtf that's so simple

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when i see things that short i usually think to myself

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am i doing it right so

long canyon
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The only one that could be troublesome is c

round drum
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yea was just thinking that

long canyon
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I don't immediately see the answer

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Oh, i got it. Do b first

round drum
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woudln't that laos

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also just be L

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yea all i can think of is L

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since Sn = Ak where k is just heading to infinity

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since (k+1)/k^4 = 1/k^3 + 1/k^4 is a convergent series, and ln(k+1) < k+1 for sufficiently large k, ln(k+1)/k^4 < (k+1)/k^4

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so the series for ln(k+1)/k^4 must converge as well

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o wait i was looking at

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the limit test

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xd

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i understand

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i was just saying how my example works

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because im sure you've learnt about the direct comparison test before

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yea you're talking about the direct comparison i was looking at my limit comparison

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that's my bad

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yea i get that

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since Sn = Ak where k is just heading to infinity that was my line of thinking

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Sn is importantly ADDING up all the infinite an

round drum
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oh

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right

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so its just an

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?

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maybe im not understanding it

long canyon
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It's not the most obvious thing, but you can write an = Sn-S(n-1).

round drum
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wat

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i gotta think about that for a sec

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o i guess that makes sense

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its the current sum - previous sum which just gives the current value

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but is that the answer? sn-s(n-1)

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Yep. And now you can substitute like in a

round drum
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wat

long canyon
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Plug that in to the limit

round drum
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ak

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?

long canyon
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Lim n-> inf sn-s(n-1)

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I believe in you, you can get it from here

round drum
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mmmmm i don't think i can

long canyon
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In part a, you did one of the two parts

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Lim n-> inf sn =L

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So how about lim n-> inf S(n-1)?

round drum
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idk what to tell u its like

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L - ak

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that's my guess

long canyon
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Yes, you're right, but that doesn't get us very far.

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The trick is to see that lim n-> inf is the same as lim (n-1) -> inf

round drum
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yea i dont know how u see that

long canyon
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So Lim n-> inf s(n-1) =L

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It's a conceptual question

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If you're taking a limit, it doesn't matter if the n is off by 1

round drum
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but

long canyon
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You'll still get all the components in the sum

round drum
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lim n> inf Sn = L

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so how could

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subtracting one from n

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also give L

long canyon
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Because of the limit

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Sn means "add up everything to the n term"

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Sn-1 means "add up everything to the n-1 term"

round drum
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o wait

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i feel stupid

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they just reversed it on me

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for a series to converge

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ak has to go to 0

long canyon
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But if we now take the limit as n goes to infinity, theyre both "add everything up"

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Yes, also that way. 🙂

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What i went through above is an explanation of why that is true.

round drum
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but

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they wouldn't be the same amount of infinity would they

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so that is like

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tripping up my brain

long canyon
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We aren't adding infinities or anything crazy

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We're just adding up terms, in sequence

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And when we take the limit, we add all the terms.

round drum
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yea its just not clicking

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cuz you're saying

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it equals to 0

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but

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ok now my brain's in shambles

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xd

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let's not think about it anymore

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ill just think of the reverse if i ever see this again

long canyon
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okay

round drum
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but yea you're right

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c is kinda troubling

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0/infinity does not make sense either

long canyon
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sure it does

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what is 0/20?

round drum
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oh

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right

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i thought

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0/infinity was some sort of indeterminate form though

long canyon
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fortunately not

round drum
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what the heck

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so these are all just 0

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0 / infinity, L/ infinity, 0 / L, 0/L^2

long canyon
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you got it

round drum
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k im gonna need to give you my explanation of why that befuddles my brain though

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the 2nd one

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if you're adding infinite terms and then subtracting those same infinite terms without a term

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how could that equal 0

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wouldn't it be equal to that one missing term

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Without too much snark, because the terms that come later go to 0.

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if you have the sequence 1/n, the terms go to 0.

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Nevermind that the sum doesn't converge, you get telescoping, and the answer is just the "last" term

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but if the sum does converge, this last term is 0.

round drum
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that's how im thinking of it

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what's wrong with it

long canyon
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you're adding the wrong way?

round drum
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woops

long canyon
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Sn = a0 +a1 +a2+ ... an

round drum
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but an reaches 0

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so u can cancel that all out

long canyon
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the values of an approach 0

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but lets focus on just Sn

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The problem promises us that lim n -> inf Sn = L

round drum
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yea

long canyon
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so if we take S_100, it's getting close to L

round drum
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uh huh

long canyon
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and S_100000 and so on.

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now think of S_(n-1)

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We were promised that S_100 is close to L,

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so S_(101-1) = S_100 is getting close to L

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So S_(n-1) is also getting close to L

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and formally, when we do the limit, we see that lim n-> inf S(n-1) = lim n-> inf Sn = L

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because that -1 doesn't matter. We see all the same values of the sum, going off towards L, in the same order

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we just see them "one term later", but they're all there.

round drum
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my head hurts

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so

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in summary

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i can do

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s(n-some large number)

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and it'd still be equal to L

long canyon
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in the limit, yes

round drum
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that does not sound intuitive in any way shape or form

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but alright ill just take it at face value cause it does somewhat

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make sense

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thanks for the help

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it's -1 lol

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damn alright

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LMAO

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I saw 2-2-1

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i have severe dyslexia

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Nice

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I swear dyslexia means you can’t type

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lmao it means signs and letters get mixed up

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Oh

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Ok me just being dumb

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it takes some time for me to actually read something correctly

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uhh i need help

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can you help me @leaden thunder

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i'd do like that yes

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if it helps, imagine you have an antiderivative G of g

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then int_x^y g(t) dt = G(y)-G(x) and this you can easily differentiate

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glass heart
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Well G(y) is constant with respect to x

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So the derivative with respect to x is just 0

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Since it is second derivative

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Then

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it is open interval (), not closed [], correct?

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However, for first derivative

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Is it closed or open for the -1/2

regal obsidian
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Is depends if, when you say increasing, is it strictly increasing or not ?

hasty bluff
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no, not strictly

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only normal increasing

regal obsidian
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So it's -1/2 included in the interval

hasty bluff
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ah i see

regal obsidian
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Because its f'>=0

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Not f'>0

hasty bluff
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ohhhh

regal obsidian
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Got this difference ?

hasty bluff
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I see then too

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so that would also be

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closed

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and

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<=/>=

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What about here then thouh

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Do I do <=/>= in that evaluation or no

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i think i dont

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right

regal obsidian
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You let like that but on the vertical lines, you put a 0

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So we know that you know that the function is equal to zero

hasty bluff
regal obsidian
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But idk if they do it this way in your country because i'm french

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oh i see

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ok i got it thank you!

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@hasty bluff

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Like that under the 25

hasty bluff
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ohh

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regal obsidian
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But these are details

hasty bluff
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thank you

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got you

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that all makes sense

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I need help at B, C, and D

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For B you want to substitute n for a term in the sequence. 3(1) +5 , 3(2) +5, 3(3) +5.......

jade summit
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ah gotcha

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so it would be 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23, 26

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thanks

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<@&286206848099549185> so i understand how to do B and D now.. i need help with C

wise spire
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there's a formula

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i don't remember but you can google it

jade summit
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does it refer to series?

wise spire
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yeah

jade summit
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and series is the total of all numbers in the sequence?

wise spire
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actually, i now see that the series is a different one for D

jade summit
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oh wait

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D is actually also a series

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now i am confused to do that too

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Do i just have to identify all the numbers

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in each terms

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then add them all up

wise spire
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yeah it would be easier since there are only 5

jade summit
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C. 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15

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the sum of all is 64

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that's how you answer it right

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do i have to say it like Sn = 64

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yeah maybe

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ty

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how to find x for x/2 + x/3 =1?