#advanced-pdes

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sinful herald
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I am reading a book on functional calculus, where I have doubt in definition, can someone help me understand (1.3), I do not understand why it is well defined since $\phi(ef)$ might or might not be in domain of $\phi(e)^{-1}$

untold deltaBOT
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Math&Tea

quick pagoda
sinful herald
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Linear operators

quick pagoda
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Any continuity or closedness or domain constraints

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But anyway, the domain of phi(f) may not be the whole space

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Consider applying 1 to, say, the laplacian

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On L^2

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It’s got a dense domain but not entire

sinful herald
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yes, I have doubt in the definition, I dont see why this make sense

quick pagoda
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You seem early on in the text ofc so applying to a particular setting might be a tad forward

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But point is, if f is only regularizeable, it need not be defined everywhere on x

sinful herald
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yes that I agree

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but how is that a problem?

quick pagoda
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And, in fact, won’t be

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It isn’t

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Unless you want it defined everywhere, of course

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Then you might be in trouble

sinful herald
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ohh so you are saying only take those elements for which phi(ef) lies in domain

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and make that domain of phi(f)

quick pagoda
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Ye

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Now, I’m sure they cover that soon, but this depends on e, a priori

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So why is it safe to pick an e

sinful herald
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it has to be show that definition is independent of e

quick pagoda
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Exactly

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Especially a bit tricky for domain issues though, but they probably have that soon in the text

sinful herald
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ok, I see the domain thing now. I didn't even though of that before you mentioned. Thanks a lot

quick pagoda
rotund jetty
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Does anyone know bounds for $\sum_{j, k = 0}^{T - 1}Var(f_j f_k)$, where $f_0, f_1, \dots$ are eigenfunctions of $-\Delta$ on a compact manifold $M$ without boundary, normalized so that $E(f_j^2) = 1$? This paper, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1011.0215, bounds $\frac{1}{T}\sum_{j = 0}^{T - 1}E(f_j^4)$ on $S^2$, which in turn gives a bound for $\sum_{j, k = 0}^{T - 1}Var(f_j f_k)$ that is quite good. Are there papers that bound $\frac{1}{T}\sum_{j = 0}^{T - 1}E(f_j^4)$ for general $M$?

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sinful herald
quick pagoda
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By 1 I meant the identity function here, if you’re dealing with functions, the constant 1 function would give you the identity operator*

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Since Phi(e)^-1 Phi(e)

sinful herald
void flame
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Could I get some help with this problem? I have no idea where to start, not sure what scaling solution i should use. Is there a specific form I should use?

hearty wharf
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Are pdes wayyy harder than ODE

buoyant pike
buoyant pike
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Big

minor mulch
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macroscopic

void flame
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I dont know what Hilbert's six problem is but sounds badass

buoyant pike
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Rigorously justify various branches of physics mathematically

queen elm
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remarkable

junior bloom
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this is a very cool result but i need to think carefully about whether its the justification physicists are looking for. as ive mentioned, statistical physicists are suspicious of the hydrodynamic limit.

verbal nebula
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Well, I'm sure there are, but do you have any insight on that?

junior bloom
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among other things i think the first thing in this paper that a physicist would be skeptical of is the hard shell interaction, though i dont know if this is actually a big issue.

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this physics paper was huge in theoretical phys

verbal nebula
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Interesting. Seems above my paygrade for now

junior bloom
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its a renormalization group problem if you know what that is

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but this is generally why physicists, wrongly imo, dont interact with the whoole large deviations lit on hydrodynamic limits

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i think physicists are phenomenologically correct but wrong not to interact because theres still some value

verbal nebula
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Nope! I'm doing my project on inviscid limits and boundary layers. I'm learning fluids on the fly as I work on the research problems, so most of my knowledge is ad hoc at best right now

junior bloom
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well heres the quick version. if you derive navier stokes from the boltzmann system in the standard physics way, you can imagine that the all the objects in navier stokes really come from coarse graining the microscopic description until you reach a continuum one.

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the issue with the hydrodynamic scaling limit is that it's rescaling the dynamics in a vanishing noise regime, but when you coarse grain the objects from the microscopic dynamics to said scale, the "effective" viscosity keeps changing.

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so the correct regime cant just have vanishing noise, the viscosity has to be limiting to something too in a coupled way with noise

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what does it limit to? no clue

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and maybe the solution is that mathematicians are correct in the end etc etc

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but certainly the fixed viscosity argument does not make this make sense

plucky pond
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can someone help me understand: if i have a PDE and want to express it as a differential operator P, how can I determine the semiclassical principle symbol? I understand that in the semiclassical case, the conjugate momentum variables \xi -> hD_x, where D_x = \frac{1}{i}\partial_x, but I am not sure how to treat the lower order terms.

the example I am referring to is the following operator P:
-h^{2} \partial_x^{2} - h^{2} \frac{A'}{A} \partial_x + (\frac{h^2k^2\pi^2}{A^2\theta_0^2}-1)
and we have Pu = 0.
Claim: the principle symbol is \xi^{2} + \frac{h^2k^2\pi^2}{A^2\theta_0^2}-1
But I am not sure why the lower order \partial_x term goes away, but the constant term doesn't

Thanks in advance

quaint herald
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(But a scalar function, unadorned with semiclassical parameter is order 0).

plucky pond
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okay thank you, so in this case, h^{2} \frac{A'}{A} \partial_x is semiclassical order h^-1, and \frac{h^2k^2\pi^2}{A^2\theta_0^2} is semiclassical order h^-2 ? (also, is there a notation for semiclasscal order, similar to bigO ?)

plucky pond
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but P = -h^{2}\partial_x^{2} - hf(x), then p(x,\xi) = \xi^{2} ?

quaint herald
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Remember h is small, so O(h), O(h^2) is more accurate, but there are various notations for the class of semiclassical diff/pseudodiff operators of a certain order.

plucky pond
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sorry i just want to make sure im following

quaint herald
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No looks like it's O(h^2) to me, i.e. of semiclassical order -2. There are no derivatives, but two powers of h.

plucky pond
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oh alright, thanks

quaint herald
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No problem :).

plucky pond
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@quaint herald im just confused by what my professor wrote, as he wrote the principle symbol of
P = -h^{2} \partial_x^{2} - h^{2} \frac{A'}{A} \partial_x + (\frac{h^2k^2\pi^2}{A^2\theta_0^2}-1)
to be: \xi^{2} + \frac{h^2k^2\pi^2}{A^2\theta_0^2} - 1
it makes me think that A^{2}(x) (which in this case is a function that is included in the laplace-beltrami operator based on the metric on the specific manifold in which the problem is being analyzed) "cancels out" with the h^2 in the numerator by also being O(h^2)

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and I feel I should mention that we are analyzing the PDE in a small strip of
area ~ O(h^2/3)

quaint herald
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Without more context, I can't really say more. The domain being small shouldn't matter, but if A is like h^2 (which you gave no indication of earlier), indeed this term should be included.

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If there is h-dependence of A, you should also check how the size of A' compares to that of A though, as for highly oscillatory A your first order (in differential sense) term could contribute to your semiclassical principal symbol.

plucky pond
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ah okay, thanks again!

zenith aurora
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Hi, I'm doing some research on Mathematical Models for Infectious Diseases and have so far a model for the time since infection(which instead of the usual 1 variable, it has 2 variables (a,t). where a is the time since infection and t is the 'normal/current' time
It's a System of 2 differential equations
One is a PDE and the other is an ODE. How would you go about doing some analysis for the model. I currently have a solution for the PDE but I'm not sure what else to include. If you want I can provide the exact equations .
(Also is this the best channel for this question ? )

buoyant pike
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<Andrew>

primal osprey
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Hey

calm falcon
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Can someone help me with this problem? I imagine the solution involves first showing the inequality for a sequence of smooth compactly supported functions converging to u using an integration by parts argument but I'm unsure of the details

rotund jetty
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calm falcon
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the resulting expression after IBP is p nasty tho

calm falcon
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actually i think this is the right way to go. After moving the ^2 out and an application of Cauchy schwarz, you get an expression involving a product of powers of u, |Du| and |D^2u| unless im wrong, which suggests invoking Holder's ineq and dividing off the integral of |Du|

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but the powers are a mess

prisma marsh
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integrate by parts, note that the terms can all be controlled by $CuD^2u\left|Du\right|^{p-2}$, then apply generalized holder to that term with 1= 1/p + 1/p + (p-2)/p

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junior bloom
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can you guys think of any elegant expressions that can take a function, and return 1 if its first derivative exists and is nontrivial, and 0 otherwise.

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this is a meaningless question since I can just define an operator that does this, but im after that maximum elegance

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this essentially picks out the integer increments of Sobolev space index or Besov space regularity

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that's why i feel like some nice expression exists for it

astral vine
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You can replace Wk,1 norms by B^s_{1,+infty} to deal fractional index of regularity

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But the case of Besov spaces requires to be on Rn at the first glance. On domains you need to use an equivalent norm that relies on finite differences instead.

junior bloom
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Rn is fine, I'm doing physics, universe in a box etc etc

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I can probably even make it periodic and take size to infinity

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That's sharp. I'll look up those norms and use an appropriate exponential mapping.

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Thanks!

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I never quite internalized the importance on integrating on balls from harmonic analysis

odd mauve
steady flicker
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so im trying to driving legendre polynomial's rodrigues's formula
notes says after eqution (24) i need to calculate (N+1)'s derivatives. But how to do this n+1 th derivative? I tried. but during the process I can't seems to find a pattern of some sort
how did the notes just got the line below?
Im struck on legendre polynomial for a day now. I stuck on this then I stuck on everything follows. Somebody help me please...
is this suppose to be take some order of derivatives and then find a pattern? than you do induction on n+1 th. but I can't find it

Look I know this is not suppose to be this channel. But I asked in normal pde channel and no answer. Im a bit desperate as I don't want to stuck and time is ticking. If anyone can guide me through spherical harmonics I would really appreciate it

rotund jetty
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Can someone confirm: In this image, the $d\xi$ is the Lebesgue measure induced by the inner product on $T_x^*(M)$ given in coordinates as $(u, v) = v^T G^{-1} u$, where $G$ is the matrix of the metric tensor? So in case of the Laplacian, the integral appearing becomes the volume of the unit ball in $\mathbb{R}^n$ since $p(\xi) = \xi^T G^{-1}\xi?:

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quaint herald
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Great paper btw ❤️

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Anyway, it's something like: you equip the cotangent bundle fibers with the densities such that when you tensor with the fixed density on the base space $\Omega$ you get the (canonical) symplectic volume on the cotangent bundle.

In local coordinates $(x,\xi)$ this density is $h(x)^{-1},d\xi$, where $h$ is chosen smoothly so that $\mu=h(x), dx$, where $\mu$ is the prescribed density on $\Omega$.

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grobmez

rotund jetty
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lament jungle
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Not sure which channel this best fits, but I have the following integral equation:
$$
c(x) = \begin{cases}
0, & x\leq 0\
\int_{t=-0.4}^{t=0.6} c(x+t) dt, & 0<x<1\
1, & 1\leq x
\end{cases}
$$
which I can transform by differentiation into this DE:
$$
c'(x) = c(x+0.6) - c(x-0.4).
$$

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ConfusedReptile

lament jungle
buoyant pike
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Hmmmm

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Well

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c'(0.4)=1

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c'(0)=c(0.6)

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In the range [0,0.4], c'(x)=c(x+0.6)

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And in the range [0.4, 1], c'(x)=1-c(x-0.4)

lament jungle
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And in the range [0, 0.6], c'(x)=1-c(x-0.4)
That's for the range [0.4, 1]

buoyant pike
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Oh yeah

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Typo

buoyant pike
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So c''(x)=c'(x+0.6)-c'(x-0.4) so c''(0.4)=c'(1)-c'(0)=1-2c(0.6)

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And c''(1)=-c'(0.6)=-(1-c(0.2))

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And c''(0)=c'(0.6)=1-c(0.2)

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Hmmmm

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c'''(x)=c''(x+0.6)-c''(x-0.4) so c'''(0.4)=-2+2c(0.2)

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This isn't going anywhere

lament jungle
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I got a bit of an insight, I think. You can split the systen into 5 equal intervals of size 0.2 each. If you then call the functions in each region A,B,C,D,E, then the relationship between the regions reduce to a linear system
$$
A'(x) = D(x),\
B'(x) = E(x),\
C'(x) = 1-A(x),\
D'(x) = 1-B(x),\
E'(x) = 1-C(x)
$$
with boundary conditions between regions:
$$
A(0.2) = B(0), B(0.2) = C(0), C(0.2) = D(0), D(0.2) = E(0)
$$
and the old boundary conditions:
$$
A(0) = 0, E(0.2) = 1
$$

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ConfusedReptile

lament jungle
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and this in turn can be rewritten as a fifth-order linear DE for, say, A. It won't be pretty though, I think, and I don't immediately see the solution from here

buoyant pike
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Well, then A''(x)=D'(x)=1-B(x) and A'''(x)=D''(x)=-B'(x)=-E(x) and A^4(x)=D'''(x)=-B''(x)=-E'(x)=1-C(x)

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And A^5(x)=D^4(x)=-B'''(x)=-E''(x)=-C'(x)=-1+A(x)

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A(0)=0, A'(0)=D(0), A''(0)=1-B(0), etc...

lament jungle
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there's another change of sign when taking E'(x), so A''''(x) = C(x)-1 and A'''''(x)= 1-A(x), I think

buoyant pike
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Well a sign error isn't unlikely

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Anyways

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You can repeat this for B, C, D, and E

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With 5 initial conditions for each

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And solve each ODE

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And then match the boundary conditions

lament jungle
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Hmm, that's true. So it's theoretically solvable, I guess. I wonder if there's a way to figure out the answer without doing that, though, it really seems like the solution should be simple...

buoyant pike
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Should it

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You have a nonlocal ode

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Anyways

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For another solution technique

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Consider a basis for L^2([0,1], f(0)=0, f(1)=1)

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Plug each element in

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See what happens

lament jungle
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calculated the numerical solution and it seems to not even be continuous at the boundaries, so I probably overestimated how simple it'd be, indeed
EDIT: in hindsight it's obvious from the integral equation that it wouldn't be continuous at the boundaries

buoyant pike
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Why is it bumpy

lament jungle
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It's approximate, the bumps are just random noise.

buoyant pike
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Did you see this example

lament jungle
lament jungle
buoyant pike
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You can try to do a change of time variable to get your thing into this form

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You should also be able to solve the ode numerically directly

lament jungle
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hmm, this form can't be obtained, I think, because left side needs to be a function of t while right side needs to be a function of 2t. so no linear transform on the time variable would do.

buoyant pike
lament jungle
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As a simplified case, if one replaces -0.4 and 0.6 with -0.5 and 0.5, the problem becomes symmetrical, there's only two regions and it's analytically solvable. The solution can be written as
$$
A(x)= \frac{1}{2} \left(\sin (x)+\cos (x)+\frac{2 \cos (x)}{\tan \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)-1}+2\right)
$$
$$
B(x) = \frac{1}{2} \left(\cos (x)+\frac{\sin (x) \left(\sin \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)+\cos \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)\right)}{\cos \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)-\sin \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)}\right)
$$

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ConfusedReptile

lament jungle
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with $A(0) = \frac{3}{2}+\frac{1}{\tan \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)-1} \approx 0.157102$, $A(1/2) = B(0) = 1/2$.

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ConfusedReptile

lament jungle
buoyant pike
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Are you not enforcing c(0)=0 and c(1)=1?

plucky pond
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can someone help me understand why, in practice, we may want to set the principle symbol of a differential operator equal to zero? let’s say i have an operator P = (-h^2 \Delta - 1), and some u such that Pu = 0. Should we set the principle symbol equal to zero due to the homogeneity of the PDE or is that mere coincidence?

buoyant pike
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Well you get the symbol by taking the fourier transform of your equation right

plucky pond
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@buoyant pike perhaps, see i always just pick out the highest order terms and replace the D^\alpha with \xi^\alpha

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im not sure how to “formally” do it

buoyant pike
plucky pond
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like if $$P = \sum_{\alpha \leq m } a_\alpha(x)D^{\alpha}$$

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then the symbol
$$p_{0} = \sum_{\alpha = m} a_{\alpha}(x) \xi^{\alpha}$$

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quaint herald
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The Fourier transform conjugates the action of P to the action of multiplication by p. One way of solving PDE is to essentially do the same thing but "dividing" by p instead. Of course usually we can't literally do this because of vanishing of p, but this should motivate why the zero set of p is important.

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It is called the characteristic variety of the operator, and it's complement is called the elliptic set. For the Laplacian for instance the symbol is just |xi|^2, which is nonvanishing away from 0, which is precisely what makes it an elliptic operator.

plucky pond
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so essentially the principle arrises because differentiating in space is like multiplication in frequency

quaint herald
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Yep

plucky pond
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is there a good resource you recommend that builds up these tools from scratch essentially

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i think i have a lot of gaps in my knowledge here

buoyant pike
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The wikipedia article for the fourier transform

quaint herald
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Hard to tell your background and exactly what you are trying to learn. Something like Grafakos has a good systematic development of the Fourier transform, but less about the specific PDE applications.

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Many PDE books should include use of the FT and concepts like the char set and ellipticity, e.g. Taylor.

plucky pond
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thank you @quaint herald

quaint herald
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No problem

astral vine
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For people that are well aware about deep details of elliptic regularity. If I have an elliptic operator of order 2 on C^{1,a} domain (bdd) of R^n, 0<a<1. If I am able to prove that the solutions of the corresponding PDE on L^p does have W^{1+a+1/p+\eps,p} regularity, is it really impressive ?

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Solutions are more regular than the boundary

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lol

pure fulcrum
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mb gang i got it

buoyant pike
pure fulcrum
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lolz

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im new to pde's world and when i came across the word separable it clicked my brain and i figured my things out

winged torrent
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Would this channel be the proper one for asking about Z transforms?

buoyant pike
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Perhaps

upbeat spade
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we know that the robin bvp on the laplacian (with boundary condition del_n u = beta u) with an appropriate sign on the boundary coefficient beta is coercive.

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on a bounded Lipschitz domain Omega

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now, if we change the boundary condition to del_n u = i beta u then it satisfies a garding inequality. is there, for example, a range of values of beta for which it isnt coercive, or do i just have to find specific counterexamples? or maybe it is coercive and i just havent found the argument

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actually, by typing out a terribly worded question i just realized how to solve the problem i was having

cedar storm
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how do you apply spectral methods to odes?

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Sorry if this is a tad off topic

buoyant pike
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Well

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I guess here is fine

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The idea is to consider a basis for some function space and see how the differential equation acts on the basis

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If the differential equation is linear, then it will nicely split and the behavior on the basis will be all the information you need to construct solutions

grave matrix
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When I think of spectral methods I think about assuming your PDEs functions can be written as a fourier series then taking DFT of the equation to find coefficients, and then inverse DFT to return to original domain

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And the details are in how you interpret derivatives or do collocation

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I never considered non Fourier basis functions

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Is it still called spectral methods if you have non Fourier basis or dont take a DFT?

errant depot
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Given a function $f$ in $W^{1,1}_0$ is it always possible to consider a sequence in $W{1,\infty}_0$ that weakly converges to $f$ in $W^{1,1}$ ?

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astral vine
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Yes.

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Because smooth compactly supported functions are dense in W^1,1_0

tired hollow
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Hello, can someone help me solve this ? h is the density function of V which is a stochastic process, and V overline is with V_t being equal to sigma square

astral vine
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@quick pagoda the brain fart was insane actually

quick pagoda
astral vine
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Yeah fair point.

tall jolt
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Is PDE comparable to the subject of diophantine equations, in the sense that you can't say a lot from a general POV? Or is there more general structure than what diophantine equations have?

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or less even

noble gate
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if $G(x,y)$ is the green's function for the unit ball, i.e. satisfying:
$$
\begin{cases}
-\Delta_y G(x,y) = \delta(x - y) & B(0,1)\
G(x,y) = 0 & y \in \partial B(0,1)
\end{cases}
$$
how do i show that:
$$
\int_{B(0,1)} G(x,y) = \frac{1}{2n}(1 - |x|^2)
$$

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noble gate
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Is there a way to avoid having to do a direct calculation

buoyant pike
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What have you tried

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What does avoiding a direct calculation mean

noble gate
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expanding G in terms of fundamental solution

noble gate
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$$
-\Delta \frac1{2n} (1- |x|^2) = 1
$$
and
$$
\int_{B(0,1)} - \Delta G(x,y) dy= \int_{B(0,1)} \delta(x-y) = 1
$$

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noble gate
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so if i manage to show that
$$
-\Delta \int_{B(0,1)} G(x,y) = \int_{B(0,1)} -\Delta G(x,y)
$$
Using the fact that when $|y| = 1$, $G(x,y) = 0$, i have a poisson equation

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noble gate
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I mean morally speaking this is simple,
$$
v(x) := \int_{B(0,1)} G(x,y) dy
$$
morally satisfies:
$$
\begin{cases}
-\Delta v(x) = 1 & x \in B(0,1)\
v(x) = 0 & x\in \partial B(0,1)
\end{cases}
$$
so, by uniqueness,
$$
v(x) = \frac1{2n}(1 - |x|^2)
$$

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noble gate
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But, I don't know how to justifiy interchanging the laplace operator with the integral

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I will move on from this question for the time being

buoyant pike
verbal nebula
noble gate
verbal nebula
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I think Folland buries it in an exercise, but pick your favorite version of Leibiniz' Theorem/DCT that'll apply

noble gate
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I'll bash my head against it for a bit more

noble gate
verbal nebula
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The Theorem I'm thinking of is 2.27 on page 56 of Folland

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Suppose that $f: [a,b] \times X \to \C$ and that $f(t, \cdot) : X \to \C$ is integrable for every $t \in [a,b]$. Let $$F(t) := \int\limits_{X} f(t,x) \mathrm{d}\mu(x). $$ Suppose that $\partial_t F$ exists and there is a $g \in L^1$ such that $|\partial_t f| \leq g(x)$ for all $(t,x)$. Then $F$ is differentiable with $$F'(t) = \int\limits_X \partial_t f(t,x) \mathrm{d}\mu(x).$$

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verbal nebula
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The $\delta$ maybe singular, and such a $g$ may fail to exist in the way that you want, but you can always find an approximation to the delta, and take limits carefully

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MoonBears-C-

verbal nebula
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Chapter 9 of Folland covers these details, but usually PDE people sweep such things under the rug. I know my professors, and my advisor does

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There can also be good information in the appendix of Evans PDE book on these matters

ocean ether
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what is happening from 5 to 6

buoyant pike
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Chain rule

ocean ether
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oh gg

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void raft
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Hey! Just wanted to see if I found the Fourier series properly, I'm not sure about the change in domain when finding the coefficients

ocean ether
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anyways how can i pull 7 from 3 and 6

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it's easy to see

$\sinh\xi\sin\eta\frac{\partial U}{\partial \xi}+\cosh\xi\cos\eta\frac{\partial U}{\partial \eta}=\cosh\xi\cos\eta\frac{\partial V}{\partial \xi}-\sinh\xi\sin\eta\frac{\partial V}{\partial \eta}$

from direct substitution but how can i pull $V$ from here

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tired hollow
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Ive heard monge ampere was used in calabi conjecture to prove existence of Riemann forms

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Wikipedia

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I kinda get the problem of prescribed curvatures

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Is there any good background anyone know of

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Cuz chatgpt wasnt very helpful

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Mainly looking for description of how monge ampere and complex monge ampere are both used to solve for problem of prescribed curvature + how it was used in calabi conjecture

buoyant pike
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Monge ampere show up a lot in diff geo

buoyant pike
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det D^2u-K(x)(1+|Du|^2)^(n+2)/2=0

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The wikipedia article on the calabi conjecture explains where the complex monge ampere comes in

tired hollow
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I guess more of wanting an explanation of how the equation actually corresponds to solving prescribed curvature problem.

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I guess wikipedia does give references

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Ty for pointing out second part tho

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frank prism
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The very quick answer as to why it shows up, is you want a Kaehler metric in the same Kaehler class, which is really a cohomological condition on the Ricci and Kaehler forms, for which you can use the ddbar lemma to turn directly (in local coordinates) into the Monge-Ampere equation, where the ddbar lemma (a consequence of Hodge theory and thus the whole machinery of elliptic PDE) is what turns the conjecture, something involving curvature, so the metric and its second derivatives, i.e. n^2 equations, into one scalar equation

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if you're not used to this neck of the woods with geometric PDE, the fact hodge theory has something important to say here (and in general, any time you have something involving curvature and/or cohomology on a compact manifold) is really the moral of the story (to me)

tired hollow
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Much appreciated response ill definitely check out the section in lees book

void raft
gleaming jungle
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Can someone help me with these questions?

buoyant pike
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Have you tried any of them?

gleaming jungle
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I'm mostly interested in A

buoyant pike
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Ok

gleaming jungle
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If u know the answer

buoyant pike
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What did you do

gleaming jungle
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I substituted after decomposing, averaged in time and then rewrote and rearranged. I'm mostly looking for verification though

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If you know the answer let me know then I can compare it

buoyant pike
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If you post your solution I would be happy to verify it

gleaming jungle
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well i will show you tomorrow

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cause im taking a break before sleeping

sinful herald
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I am not sure whether just mollification work or not, because I remember reading somewhere that C infinity is not dense in Holder space...

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so I was thinking that some how the regularity of g is increasing but I dont know...

lilac barn
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Start with approximation results on Wkp for bounded U. Refer Evans for that. Now use the embedding of Wkp into Ca via Morreys inequality.

sinful herald
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but for that I need to start with Wkp function no?

lilac barn
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Okay I was thinking you already have the mollification for Wkp. Otherwise, try proving that mollification indeed does give you an approximation.

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You do need to make use of the regularity 2 exponent as it fails for 0

sinful herald
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what regularity 2 exponent?

lilac barn
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Oh g is just Ca?

sinful herald
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yes...

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at least that is what I think

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this is the previous page. f is C alpha only

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so I was thinking that g is also c alpha only but I am not sure if I am missing something

lilac barn
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It should be fine if you pick b<a and require the convergence only in C0,b norm but yeah I think otherwise some information is missing

sinful herald
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Ohh ok, so there is some typo ?

tall jolt
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Is Terence Tao's "Nonlinear dispersive equations" apt for a first course in PDE?

lilac barn
verbal nebula
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Folland has a good PDE book

tall jolt
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would it be apt for a second course? I'm just trying to get a sense of the landscape of PDE books if that makes sense lol

buoyant pike
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I think that it's relatively specialized

tall jolt
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are Evans and Taylor roughly the same?

astral vine
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In the end, one should read all the books: Evans, Brezis, Taylor, Tao, Folland, etc.

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Because each gives an extremely different perspective and various an complementary ways to deal with PDEs

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There are a lot of different books, but I would reocmmend Evans, Folland and Brezis first

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Then Tao

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Then Taylor. But one can start Taylor and deal with Tao during the read of the three books

verbal nebula
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I've mainly read Evans, Han and Lin's elliptic PDEs, and Majda & Bertozzi for vorticity and incompressible fluid flow

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I definitely feel that my PDE background isn't as broad as it could be, but I'm focused on getting through Majda & Bertozzi for now as that's more relevant

astral vine
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Of course if one wants to be more specialized quicker in some subfield of PDEs, one may replace the books by some others. The one above, except Tao maybe, are quite general, somehow.

tall jolt
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What interesting things can you say about Maxwell's equations from a purely mathematical POV? Either relativistic or non-relativistic, or on manifolds

buoyant pike
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What is interesting to you

tall jolt
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Math. Yeah so this question is not very specific. I don't know much about the "culture" of PDE. Given a differential equation, what kind of questions are natural to ask?

Maybe the Maxwell's equations have some regularity? When is uniqueness to be expected? How does the geometry of the underlying manifold affect the existence of solutions? Can you give some bound on the norms of the solutions?

buoyant pike
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Well you can explicitly find solutions

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Jefimenko's equations

tall jolt
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ah, this is funny too

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also, can solutions blow up or something? obviously not in physical situations, ig

shell jackal
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if your base is compact kahler this is basically the same thing as asking that the connection is the chern connection of a holomorphc structure on whatever hermitian line bundle your equations live on

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so in some sense understanding solutions to maxwells equations with no sources is the same as understanding holomorphic structures on line bundles on a kahler surface

frank prism
frank tide
shell jackal
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The statement about maxwells equations is very trivial in content it just follows basically directly from the reformulation in terms of the electromagnetic tensor (this is something any advanced E/M course will teach you)

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well maybe its not that obvious that the tensor is the curvature of a connection...

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Ok if you are working on R^4 then if you let A be the electromagnetic potential and express it as a vector 1-form then the definition of F from A just literally is dA

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If you think about the transformation laws for the 4-potential under a change of coordinates you will see that it just literally is the transformation law for a connection so this is the right generalization to topologically non trivial spacetimes (i.e a 4-manifold lol)

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when you interpret maxwells equations in terms of the potential and write everything out it just literally becomes dF = 0 and * d * F = J

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so when J = 0 this is just the YM equations

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If any part of this didnt make sense to you its probably just because you havent seen the relevant terminology. if you know what a connection/hodge star/the YM equations are nothing very deep is happening

shell jackal
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The generalization of this is the donaldson-uhlenbeck-yau theorem which over a curve had a classical proof with algebraic geometry due to narasimhan-seshadri

frank prism
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yeah I've seen all that (in like Wells' appendix), just never knew about the physics connections beyond knowing that they were lurking around a corner

ocean ether
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what exactly is a "weak solution"

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yeah sure we express it in terms of integrals (integral of this equals integral of that for all f in this space)

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but what does it mean

inland sinew
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I have question that is probably obvious but I feel uncertain about it for some reason. It's regarding a simple, linear first order pde of the form $a(x) z_{y} + b(y) z_{x} = 0$. More specifically, when the coefficients are discontinuous. I guess an example of this would be when a and b are equal to the sgn function, not defined at the origin. In that scenario, I was wondering if $z(x,y) = |x| - |y|$ is valid as a solution. In general I am not certain at all how to deal with even simple pde's like this when the coefficients are discontinuous, and whether or not I can even suggest solutions like the one I wrote.

untold deltaBOT
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pewpew2385

rotund jetty
quick pagoda
ocean ether
quick pagoda
minor mulch
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i mean the definition literally is integration by parts

ocean ether
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but is there like

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something we lose going from strong -> weak

quick pagoda
quick pagoda
quick pagoda
minor mulch
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see especially the 3rd answer

pulsar forge
# ocean ether but what does it *mean*

This is explained in the post linked as well, but essentially it means we are changing the way we looking at the PDE, and this motivation comes from the fact that we want a tool that matches what happens in reality.

Suppose you model some physical phenomenon using the PDE Lu(x)=f(x) with some boundary condition, well you can say mathematically that we are trying to find a function u that satisfies the above equation pointwise, and call it a day. But, as evidence shows, there may as well be physically accurate situations in such phenomenons, that dont satisfy your PDE because of some discontinuity or lack of regularity in the classical sense at certain points. You might say lets just require the PDE to be satisfied a.e , but that runs into uniqueness problems ofcourse, and as it turns out, weak solutions are the right way to handle this discontinuity problem, you are trying to formulate your PDE in a way that allows solutions to have discontinuity problems. Classical solutions are weak solutions, but you need to achieve some sort of regularity on your weak solution to say its a classical solution, by using sobolev embeddings for example.

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Ofcourse this is really mainly interesting when discussing PDEs, since in the ODE case, you have that classical and weak solutions are equivalent under pretty weak assumptions.

ocean ether
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ah ok

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so the motivation is "irl doesnt need to follow strong solutions and weak solutions are sometimes fine for what were trying to describe"

frank prism
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There's also the part where weak solutions can often be much easier to prove the existence of, and then as step 2 of your proof, show that such a weak solution must necessarily actually be a regular solution (i.e. prove it is smooth enough). so they're also very theoretically useful

minor mulch
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i like to think of a PDE as a formal expression intended to describe some physical phenomenon

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usually these are derived via some physical arguments involving approximations

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so theres no reason a priori why a literal interpretation of the PDE would perfectly describe reality—it is a continuum approximation that was itself derived via other approximations

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it’s more like “strong solutions are sometimes fine for what we’re trying to describe” not the other way around

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even very well-behaved PDEs often don’t perfectly model the phenomena they purport to describe

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for example the heat equation predicts that heat propagates faster than light

lilac barn
# ocean ether what exactly is a "weak solution"

In the link quite a lot of answers are explaining the motivation behind studying weak solutions, but don't address the more elementary question of what a weak solution is?
To that end, first we recall a strong solution: it is simply a function which satisfies the PDE equality pointwisely: aka if you have n-derivatives in your equation, the function's n-th many derivatives should also exist pointwisely, and satisfy the required equality.

So the solution can be thought of as being defined intrinsically, i.e. I say what the function looks like and nothing else: pointwise definition or graph etc.

The inversion of this is defining the solution extrinsically, i.e. I don't say what the function looks like but how it behaves with others (A man is judged by the company he keeps). This leads to the integration-by-parts formula.
The reason this description can become weak is because I can limit the number of others with which I describe its behaviour.
That is, saying “f behaves with g like this” is weaker than “f behaves with g and h like this”.
And that is precisely what we end up doing: Instead of requiring the integration-by-parts to hold with the full dual space, we require it to hold only for test functions.

void flame
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Could someone help me with this? This is for a takehome PDE exam I just submitted and I just couldnt figure it out 🥲 I think instead of writing the integral like this we should write the integral of t and the integrand being <G(x,t), phi(x,t)> since G is not expected to be a function just a distribution. But I couldn't proceed much further

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I proved that it is a distribution but dunno how to show it satisfies the PDE

exotic lava
tall jolt
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Can someone recommend a text on the Yang-Mills equations from a more mathematical perspective? Maybe something that's similar to Taylor's books

unique stump
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over here, ℰ'(X) denotes the set of distributions with compact support on an open set X ⊆ ℝⁿ

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bit of a vague question, but what's the significance of this theorem? like okay, i can write each such u in this form. so?

pulsar forge
# unique stump bit of a vague question, but what's the significance of this theorem? like okay,...

I'm not sure if i can provide a satisfactory answer on the technical usages of this theorem, but on a more foundational aspect this is essentially a extension of the more general result that every distribution is locally the derivative of a continuous function. The importance of such a result is that if we want a theory that allows us to differentiate every continuous function as much as we want, no proper subset of the space of distributions can contain all continuous functions and be closed under differentiation, meaning we are being as economical as we can be with our theory.

This result tells you that for compactly supported distributions, you can ask for a bit more and transfer that local property to a global one by patching up your distributions by a certain partition.

unique stump
pulsar forge
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What im saying is that our definition of distributions is optimal for its purposes, because if we take any proper subset of the space of distributions, at some point the distributional derivatives of some continous functions would leave that subset.

unique stump
pulsar forge
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well there is a similar global result in general, but its not a finite summation.

unique stump
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i think i see what you're saying, but somehow the significance is still lost on me. do you tend to use this result when solving / proving existence of solutions to some pdes?

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(doesnt help that this theorem hits a sort of dead end in the lectures i'm attending)

tall jolt
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I have yet to read chapter 8, but up to chapter 7 they mostly just introduced the framework for the equations and variations thereof and proved a few basic theorems (like corresponding variational principles, gauge invariance, etc.)

tall jolt
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where does Taylor define "variation"?

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are they taking the "quantity" in question Q, depending on the metric g, and taking the derivative of Q(g+th) for all compactly supported covariant 2-tensor fields h, t>=0, at t=0?

tall jolt
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well you probably need h to be symmetric too and nonnegative definite

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but idk if that's what they mean

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also, apparently, if the LHS is zero then G should be zero. But why is that the case?

buoyant pike
broken hamlet
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Is there a good reference for non-linear flows? More precisely, the question I'm interested in is of the form
$$\dv{h}{t} = P(h)$$
Where $P$ is some non-linear (second order) differential operator. I can show that the linearisation of $P$ is elliptic. All the papers I read then claim at this point that there exists a short-time solution.

untold deltaBOT
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shingtaklam1324

broken hamlet
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I'm familiar with elliptic PDEs to the level of Evans or Gilbarg-Trudinger

astral vine
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For most results of this type existence follows from a fixed point argument

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So you are right wanting to deal with the linearization of P

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In this case everythign boils down to semigroup theory

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Theorem 3.2

shell jackal
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So maybe reading Lawson Michelson first would be good

broken hamlet
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Actually since you're talking about this, @shell jackal do you know a good reference for short-time existence of Hermitian-Yang-Mills flow? I've tried reading Donaldson's ASD on Surfaces paper but haven't gotten much out of it

tall jolt
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Thanks to both.

shell jackal
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I can ask someone

broken hamlet
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thanks!

sonic olive
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Any recommendations for sources to learn about the Weiner criterion for solvability of elliptic pde or even just laplace equation?

quick pagoda
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David-Semmes has stuff for uniformly rectifiable sets, which corresponds to SIO bounds, and hence the relevant L^p solvability stuff

noble gate
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This might be too physical, but Evans’ talks about the breakdown of the Huygens’ principle in even dimensions, but then how do vibrations on drums not persist in an obnoxiously long way

buoyant pike
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You'll have energy dissipation from various physical effects

turbid scaffold
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For pdes is there any sort of theorem about the dimension of the solution space like there is in odes? For example what is the dimension of the space of solutions of the linear homogeneous pde (Dx)(Dx)+2(Dx)(Dy)+(Dy)(Dy). Or similarly, what is the dimension of the solution space of the laplacian?

broken hamlet
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A priori there won't be such a bound, for example, the dimension of the kernel of a partial differential operator depends on the domain

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e.g. on a closed manifold, any harmonic function is constant

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which is absolutely not true in general

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On the other hand, there are several related results

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c.f. Fredholm alternative and spectral theory

turbid scaffold
tall jolt
# turbid scaffold For pdes is there any sort of theorem about the dimension of the solution space ...

on closed manifolds there's a formula for the index (kernel-cokernel) of elliptic operators, see Atiyah-Singer. In general, idk. Might it be possible to show that the dimension of the kernel of the operators you mention is always uncountable in R^n, n>=2? Obviously, it suffices to show this for n=2.

For the example you give, you can write it as (Dx+Dy)^2 and by a change of variables this amounts to (Dx)^2

tall jolt
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I think it's possible to see this by considering power series. In fact, harmonic functions are analytic, although I don't think that's true in general. but idk.

solid flint
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Hello,
Consider the following Cauchy problem $u_t=Au+f$, $u(0)=x$ where $x$ is in a suitable space (some interpolation space usually).
Is anyone aware of a reference for Maximal regularity in the case of Hyperbolic problems please? most of the results that I could find are about the Parabolic case, i.e. When $A$ is a generator of an Analytic semigroup. Any comment or input will be much appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.

untold deltaBOT
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Mikahopff

astral vine
solid flint
astral vine
solid flint
buoyant pike
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References for well posedness for shallow water equations on a rotating sphere?

tall jolt
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Can anyone explain the definition of a Friedrichs mollifier? What is varphi, and what is varphi(xi) supposed to mean?

buoyant pike
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varphi is a function satisfying certain conditions, xi is in R^n

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Do you know what a mollifier is

tall jolt
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nope

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so varphi is a Schwartz function on R^n

buoyant pike
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In mathematics, mollifiers (also known as approximations to the identity) are particular smooth functions, used for example in distribution theory to create sequences of smooth functions approximating nonsmooth (generalized) functions, via convolution. Intuitively, given a (generalized) function, convolving it with a mollifier "mollifies" it, th...

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read

tall jolt
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varepsilon is a scalar I think. What is D_x? I'd guess that's partial derivative wrt x, but why can you feed it to varphi?

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Ok. What did Taylor mean by C_0^infty? Compactly supported C^infty?

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This came up when reading this (first screenshot). What is J_varepsilon ell_ij exactly? I know this definition (second screenshot) of convolution of a distribution and a function, but that again gives a distribution, not a function

quick pagoda
quick pagoda
quick pagoda
tall jolt
tall jolt
quick pagoda
rotund jetty
untold deltaBOT
rotund jetty
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(depending on the Fourier convention and exact definition of D_x)

quick pagoda
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That probably works too

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Should be the same

tall jolt
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What is DF(w) and DF(0)? And why does it follow from the fact that DF(0) is invertible that (5.15) has a unique solution w with small norm, provided that H has small norm?

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wait nvm I found it

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But I'm not sure why the last paragraph is true. Could anyone explain it?

rotund jetty
lilac barn
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You can find the results in Follands real analysis book on section for distribution theory

tall jolt
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oh okay yeah that's right, they are using the Banach version of the inverse function theorem. They do not explain it (I think), they just briefly mention that the inverse function theorem generalizes to this setting in chapter 1 lol

tall jolt
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What are examples of domains where the Dirichlet boundary problem is not always solvable? Is there a characterization of the domains where the Dirichlet problem is always solvable?

quick pagoda
tall jolt
quick pagoda
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No but Helms is the first one that comes to mind

tall jolt
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This is done in Taylor chapter 11 too

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section 6

quick pagoda
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Ok cool

astral vine
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There is condition depending on theta for existence and by duality for uniqueness

tall jolt
astral vine
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Is for you the Dirichlet problem always considered on L², if so yes. Otherwise on Lq no.

sonic olive
astral vine
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I know references, but good ... Not anything sufficiently pedagogical to really learn by yourself as fresh graduate student

waxen bobcat
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share them anyways nyan

sonic olive
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What would be the easiest to approach then? lol

potent sphinx
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Need a good RIGOROUS THEORETICAL book on ordinary differential equations that does all the proofs
And followed by a theoretical PDE book
I prefer if it uses differential forms approach ie it frames differential equations as functional equations between differential forms interpreting all the dx dy rigorously as differential forms

potent sphinx
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Personally I want something
MOST books don't even properly tell what a differential equations is rigorously compared to our known real analysis
Just the initial value problem that's all
I want something to interprete something like xdy-ydx=0
As a functional equations where the x ,y are functions
The dx dy are first order differential forms
And relations between them
We need to solve for x and y
With a given initial condition

heady silo
potent sphinx
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Is there no book that has what I want
Ie interpreting a differential equations with the dx dy dz as a functional equation of differential forms of various orders

heady silo
# potent sphinx Huh I dont get it

if $x_i$ are your coordinates then $df = \sum_i \frac{df}{dx_i} dx_i$, and two forms are equal iff their components are equal, the components of $df$ are $\frac{df}{dx_i}$

untold deltaBOT
heady silo
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so from any equation of differential forms you can always get an equivalent formulation in terms of PDEs

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by looking at the components

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at least you can get local solutions this way, for global solutions when a global coordinate system doesnt exist on your manifold you need some other methods I guess

heady silo
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for example x dy - y dx = 0 if x is your coordinate then would be x y' - y = 0 which has solution y = c*x, c constant

undone sable
untold deltaBOT
undone sable
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differential forms are used in other ways in ODE/PDE

chrome trout
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Differential forms are things from differential geometry

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And I am not sure how do you say that two differential forms are the same, since they are (in this case and most of the time) defined locally

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You could say that those functions $\frac{\partial f}{\partial x_i}$ are the same locally but what about outside of your chart?

untold deltaBOT
astral vine
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a differential form with distributional coefficients on an openset of Rn are just the data of properly indexed {2^n} R-valued distributions.

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Since this is true on an openset locality is not an issue.

chrome trout
astral vine
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Haha.

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Do Carmo's approach forever in my heart.

heady silo
# chrome trout And I am not sure how do you say that two differential forms are the same, since...

you can define differential forms in a coordinate free manner, like how tangent vectors can be defined without coordinates, forms are simply antisymmetric tensors. alternatively you can choose charts that cover your space and say that two forms defined on two different charts agrees on the overlap if they transform into one another under the transition map between the charts, then you can say what you have is a genuine form on your entire space

heady silo
rotund jetty
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But if you pull back the form, say by a curve, then it is an ODE and you can get 0

heady silo
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yeah definitely but if y(x) is a function on R then it is an equation equivalent to the ODE x * y' = y

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if x is the coordinate

rotund jetty
chrome trout
heady silo
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frfr

sinful herald
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Hi, Dose anyone know a reference for book which gives physical intuition for Helmholtz decomposition (and fluids in general), I can see it in R^3 this decompose vector field into a divergence free and curl free part, but I want to know what curl free part signify . I am sorry if this is not correct place to ask this reference.

buoyant pike
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For fluids, when you do the helmholtz decomposition, the decompose the velocity into the div free and curl free components

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The div free component corresponds to vorticity/the fluid stream function

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And the curl free component corresponds to fluid divergence/the fluid velocity potential

sinful herald
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I see, thanks. Do you know any reference where I can study more about these?

buoyant pike
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Standard fluid dynamics books should cover this

rain phoenix
verbal nebula
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I'm spending one year reading Majda & Berotzzi, then one year on Farbi's book, then one year on Galdi. (In conjunction to my research and attending seminars).
It's been interesting

buoyant pike
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Well Majda/Bertozzi does not talk about fluid divergence

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Because incompressible flow lol

astral vine
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Galdi is too much imprecise and claim stuff without proofs saying just "should be easy/straightforward" while a lot of tiny (sometimes, non-)critical technical issues are involved. Some of them are not even known by most specialists.

unborn gyro
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For fluids, I think Vicol and Bedrossian is excellent

mortal slate
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Question

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Suppose I have two functions which agree as distributions

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Do they agree as functions?

shy narwhal
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In mathematics, specifically in the calculus of variations, a variation δf of a function f can be concentrated on an arbitrarily small interval, but not a single point.
Accordingly, the necessary condition of extremum (functional derivative equal zero) appears in a weak formulation (variational form) integrated with an arbitrary function δf. T...

mortal slate
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Thanks

fierce forum
rain phoenix
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I mean

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I think they're good for introductory purposes

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If you've got a good set of notes I'm all ears!

verbal nebula
lilac barn
coarse sorrel
lilac barn
astral vine
verbal nebula
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Pierre Fabrie and Franck Boyer

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My spelling is getting worse as I read less literature

astral vine
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Ok this one I know.

sinful herald
sinful herald
sinful herald
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verbal nebula
sacred cliff
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any recommended books? I haven't touched pde since undergrad long time ago

shy narwhal
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depends on your analysis background but evans

astral vine
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The overlap is huge just it has a different presentation

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Galdi is a little bit more versatile, while Boyer and Fabrie are a bit more detailed.

turbid scaffold
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I’m confused by the nomenclature in quantum mechanics.

Are all solutions to a Schrödinger equation called wave functions?

river path
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alternatively, a ray of solutions

turbid scaffold
river path
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so yeah

serene mica
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I was reading this paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.07534 and the author produces solutions to the stationary navier stokes equations in BMO^{-1}(T^2). Personally I am not very familiar with this space, and google isnt giving much. Wondering if anyone knows what this space is? ||Bonus points if you can identify the point in the paper the author actually shows the solution is in this space 😂 kidding...kinda...||

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In the same way the dual space of H^s is H^{-s}...maybe the dual space of BMO? Total guess though

lilac barn
# serene mica I was reading this paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.07534 and the author produce...

Yes, as the naming suggests ( BMO ^{-1} ) is the dual space of (BMO) functions. More simply, you can think of it as distributional derivatives of (BMO) functions. You can find some mention in Tsai and Bahouri's book. It can be shown that
[ B^{-1}{\infty, \infty} \subset \dot{B}^{-1}{\infty,\infty} \subset BMO ^{-1}
]
and the author of the paper end up proving that ( u \in B^{-1}_{\infty, \infty} ) I believe.

untold deltaBOT
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Thank you kind sir 🫡

astral vine
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It can be identified with div (BMO)ⁿ

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And is the dual of the (homogeneous -on the torus this is not really important-) Hardy Sobolev space H^{1,1}.

astral vine
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Not in my knowledge. But what you can do is compute the bidual of the Hardy space H¹ using "Riesz transform over L¹" characterization. This gives us by retraction/co-retraction argument that the dual of BMO is the vector space of finitely additive signed measures such that their Riesz transforms also are.

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Which is super ugly and unusable in practice, I think.

astral blade
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what are some good reference texts for learning de giorgi-nash-moser theory? i've only seen some short exerpts on it, but nothing particularly in depth. i assume there are more extensive texts for it that are not the original source papers (but please correct me if i'm wrong). thanks!

astral vine
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An Introduction to the Regularity Theory for Elliptic Systems, Harmonic Maps and Minimal Graphs (Publications of the Scuola Normale Superiore, 11, Band 11)

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Very good even if it contains a certain number of typos

cloud thistle
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Please don't post the same question in multiple channels simultaneously

quick pagoda
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What’s up with semiclassical symbols (and related things)?

quaint herald
quick pagoda
noble gate
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i need some pde practice problems i have a final tmr on evans chapters 1-4, 6, 8

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Primarily focused on 6 and 8

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and also chapter 4

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the exam is focused mostly on 6 and 8, but i'm worst on 3 and 4

steady flicker
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this is from Evans, page 369, I got (a) and (b), how to show (c)?

noble gate
steady flicker
untold deltaBOT
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yehuihe

steady flicker
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im not that good at this

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previous problem just express in laplacian in spherical coordinate and Iget it. but what is $w_r$ expression?

untold deltaBOT
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yehuihe

noble gate
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it says it below, no?

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$$
w_r := Dw \cdot \frac{x}{|x|}
$$

untold deltaBOT
steady flicker
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But how to differentiate this expression?

lilac barn
# steady flicker But how to differentiate this expression?

It is a straightforward calculus exercise. For (w:=e^{i \sigma \omega-x}), we have
[
r w_r-r i \sigma w=r e^{i \sigma \omega \cdot x} \frac{i \sigma \omega \cdot x}{|x|}-r i \sigma w = \frac{r}{ \lvert x \rvert} w ( i \sigma \omega \cdot x ) - r i \sigma w=r i \sigma w ( \frac{\omega \cdot x}{ \lvert x \rvert} - 1)\nrightarrow 0
]
as (x) could be (x \perp \omega). But for (w := \frac{e^{ i \sigma r}}{4 \pi r }),
[
r w_r - r i \sigma w=r \frac{i \sigma r-1}{r} w - r i \sigma w=-w = - \frac{e^{ i \sigma r}}{4 \pi r } \rightarrow 0.
]

untold deltaBOT
tropic rock
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can someone tell here the books the you used often use in research and reading and using as reference for pde beside evans book

quaint herald
tropic rock
tropic rock
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as well if those doesn;t cover

astral blade
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Kato discusses partial differential operators if that's something you're interested in as well

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and operator theory broadly

astral vine
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Even then there are dozens of way to deal with parabolic PDEs (linear or not) depending of your goal problems

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Some overlap, some are absolutely singular away from the others.

tropic rock
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Thank you

astral vine
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Provide more info regarding what I said after.

tropic rock
mint canyon
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Is it normal for the Polar equations of an Exterior differential system associated to some PDE to be underdetermined?

astral vine
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If you count the number of equations and unknown you will see this does not match

mint canyon
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Yeah, Im tryin to do 2 dimensional laplace equation, it seems to have 7 unknowns for the Polar equations of the second integral element

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I was advised to treat the unknowns for the independent variable basis as constants, and all the others as functions

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(7 unknowns and 3 equations*)

astral vine
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number of scalar equations

buoyant pike
proud panther
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Oh sorry

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My bad I didn't see that...

crisp mango
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Is pde really that big

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Ode
Pde
Laplace transform
Fourier series
Fourier transform
Z transform

I just have this topics exam isn't it very easy to checkup the process and solve why I stuck in exam? I practice hell lot

waxen bobcat
pulsar basalt
quick pagoda
pulsar basalt
broken hamlet
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Is something which locally looks like a differential operator a differential operator? More precisely, Let $X$ be a manifold, $E$ a vector bundle on $X$. Choosing connections on $X$ and on $E$, we can make sense of the $k$-th derivative $\nabla^k u$ of a section $u$. A differential operator of order $k$ is a map
$$P : \Gamma(E) \to \Gamma(E)$$
of the form $P = P(u, \nabla u, \dots, \nabla^k u)$.

On the other hand, say we had a map $Q : \Gamma(E) \to \Gamma(E)$ which under any trivialisation of $E$ gives a differential operator for maps $s_1, \dots, s_m : \mathbb R^n \to \mathbb R^n$, i.e.
$$Q_j = Q_j(s_i, \nabla s_i, \dots, \nabla^k s_i)$$
Must $Q$ be a differential operator, as in the above definition?

untold deltaBOT
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shingtaklam1324

broken hamlet
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Actually I think the answer is yes, since "being a differential operator of order k" is independent of the choices of connections, since the difference of two connections is just an endomorphism (ie no derivatives)

weak veldt
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i been revising for this exam, and as my understanding for this class increases, i am finding it so much cooler

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especially so compared to any other class i have taken

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pdes are powerful

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and studying them abstractedly is too sexy when it fits into my brain correctly

digital ibex
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For those aware of the Tau Method, how many tau terms do we need for a 2nd order PDE?

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(I really should be asking about an order N pde but i just want this as a base for now)

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Should the number of tau terms equal the number of equations (when reduced to first order) or should it equal the number of boundary conditions?

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Im seeing conflicting answers online

flat crow
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I know that for navier stokes, weak solutions are weakly continuous in $L^2$. However, is it true that in 2D, weak solutions are in fact strongly continuous in $L^2$?

I believe it is, for similar reasons as to why the energy equality holds

untold deltaBOT
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jamiecjx

flat crow
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I'd just like to find a reference in a book to connfirm this

astral vine
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For 2D Navier Stokes we have Global well posedness.

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However, equality energy is not good enough to warranty such results as such, see 3D Navier Stokes

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It works because of 2D and the subsequent Critical Sobolev embeddings.

flat crow
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Yeah, makes sense

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I also just found an explicit mention of continuity in H for 2d weak solutions in the book I was using as well

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(Temam navier stokes and numerical analysis p294)

lilac barn
arctic whale
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This is a lemma used to prove the oscillation theorem for De Georgi - Nash result.

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Isn't this just the usual poincare inequality? Why is there a positive measure assumption for it?

quaint herald
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Otherwise just look at constant functions for a trivial counterexample.

lilac barn
arctic whale
arctic whale
dull dagger
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@raven shore

frank tide
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@raven shore

onyx inlet
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Why are yall pinging this user

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cat mog do you know these people?

raven shore
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Friedrichs inequality

onyx inlet
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what.

raven shore
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Lax milgram.

onyx inlet
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Okay, I am just going to remove all three of you from the advanced channels. Feel free to appeal in @limpid slate if you feel like actually explaining anything.

raven shore
graceful basin
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Hi guys

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Anybody???

shy narwhal
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hello fellow PDE student

buoyant pike
dire anchor
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I’m trying to look at algebraic classification of simple differential equations—such as ODEs or classic PDEs (wave, heat, Poisson)—from an algebraic viewpoint rather than the usual analytic one. Could you suggest some key phrases / topics I should search for? (So far I’ve come across algebraic analysis, D-modules, differential rings/differential Galois theory and symmetry/Lie-group methods.)
What matters more in practice? D-module machinery or Lie-symmetry / group-classification?

buoyant pike
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In practice for a pde theorist, none of this matters

undone sable
zinc mortar
untold deltaBOT
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NotKnot12

zinc mortar
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At the end of the day I think the goal is to avoid unwanted singularities and general bad behavior of moduli spaces that appear in the classical setting when you are trying to get curve counts in symplectic geometry, but again not super familiar with the details

frank prism
dire anchor
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Yes ultimately I am looking for geometric and topological interpretations of DEs, for example I rarely see hyperbolic PDEs on Riemannian manifolds.

buoyant pike
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Bruh people solve all sorts of PDEs on manifolds

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Hyperbolic PDEs on various manifolds is literally all of geophysical fluid dynamics

celest fiber
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Related to electrostatics but it's a math question.
When solving for boundary conditions on sphere and the condition isn't a Legendre Polynomial is there a way to calculate the general expression for the series coefficients?

I've had this problem where a sphere is placed on the surface with $V0 cos(3\theta )$ and we know that the solution is then the infinite sum
$$ \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} A_n r^{-(n+1)} P_n (\cos (\theta ))$$
(where $P_n (x)$ is the n-th Legendre Polynomial).

i then found the first few terms of the expression using the orthogonality of the $P_n (x)$ (since $\cos(3\theta ) = 4\cos ^3(\theta )-3\cos(\theta ))$, but I wanted to know if there's a way to compute all the coefficients like one does in a Fourier series, (like getting a closed expression with respect to n).

untold deltaBOT
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Henry_quite_hungry

buoyant pike
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In mathematics, Legendre polynomials, named after Adrien-Marie Legendre (1782), are a system of complete and orthogonal polynomials with a wide number of mathematical properties and numerous applications. They can be defined in many ways, and the various definitions highlight different aspects as well as suggest generalizations and connections t...

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Using the legendre <-> chebyshev poly relations is porbably the easiest thing to do

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You can also do this with integrals but you need to be careful about normalizing the inner product on the surface of the sphere

quaint herald
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Uh oh. Several of my research projects are in trouble if the wave equation on Riemannian manifolds is a lie.

buoyant pike
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Uh oh

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Better stick to the heat equation

dire anchor
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Sorry I'm not familiar with geometric analysis nor PDE

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Just saying that from what I've known so far. Well the Jacobi field equation has the Sturm–Liouville form of wave equation

quaint herald
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@buoyant pike technically on topic for this channel if we consider maxwell's equations and the recording of the visible spectrum for artistic purposes, but I am currently fighting the urge to buy a supertele zoom lol. discovered an incredible wildlife conservation island/park near me and the bird opportunities were insane.

buoyant pike
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See if you can figure out a way to record sound from long distances

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(Euler equations)

steady flicker
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guys, im doing a derivation, but condition I'm using is regarding asymptotic form, thus has O(x^{-1) term. if I take the derivative, I need to do something about derivative of O() term right? I'm omitting it at the moment but seem I need to specify in the paper

undone sable
vast sedge
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Hilbert's sixth problem: derivation of fluid equations via Boltzmann's kinetic theory https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.01800

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"In this paper, we rigorously derive the fundamental PDEs of fluid mechanics, such as the compressible Euler and incompressible Navier-Stokes-Fourier equations, starting from the hard sphere particle systems undergoing elastic collisions. This resolves Hilbert's sixth problem, as it pertains to the program of deriving the fluid equations from Newton's laws by way of Boltzmann's kinetic theory. The proof relies on the derivation of Boltzmann's equation on 2D and 3D tori, which is an extension of our previous work"

weak veldt
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🤯

steady flicker
vapid wharf
# vast sedge Hilbert's sixth problem: derivation of fluid equations via Boltzmann's kinetic t...
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Important comments

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Found it from a John baez bluesky thread

undone sable
slate summit
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Does anyone know of an interesting problem is differential equations which require non-metrizable topological spaces?

slate summit
pulsar forge
rotund jetty
untold deltaBOT
waxen bobcat
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Doesn't D(Omega) usually denote the space of test functions?

rotund jetty
quick pagoda
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(The unit ball, perhaps, but…)

shell jackal
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the weak topology on an infinite dimensional normed space (over R or C) is never metrizable

quick pagoda
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I mean, play with it and try and see why it fails

shell jackal
# heady silo why

Essentially you ||take a countable basis U_n at the origin induced by some set of functionals F_n, finite for each n, and show that their union spans the dual of X. But then you have a countable basis for the dual of X, so it's in fact finite dimensional||

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||the union of the functionals span, I mean||

wary elk
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This is a standard result in functional analysis and you can search for a proof either online or in textbooks. I vaguely remember that open sets in the weak topology are unbounded so if the topology is induced by a metric, you would get the contradiction that a weakly convergent set being both bounded and unbounded.

quick pagoda
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Doesn’t have to be just one argument, but yeah it boils down to open sets have affine subspace or wtv

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Me when the kernels of functionals

heady silo
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Im happy I know what the weak topology is, feels like im part of the gang now 😎

shell jackal
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it is good

unborn cedar
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Im a starving child starving to death and this is the very last thing i have
ever read. Gootbye

river path
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im going to steal and publish this

tired hollow
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lol I have a lot of proof that it’s my work

green schooner
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Can you remind me how the Leray projector works in simple terms?

tired hollow
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It removes the pressure term so the equations are about velocity only

rustic oak
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Why are we engaging with this

tired hollow
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because it makes sense that if you can show all valid inital data is in Schwartz space and you can show Schwartz is closed under Navier Stokes evolution, and you can show the seminorms remain finite and bounded and that the solution is in Schwartz, you can show, by definition, the solution exists and is globally smooth

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Why wouldn’t you engage with it? Anyone who calls themselves a mathematician should want to engage with this

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Anyway.. thanks to anyone who does want to engage on this

rustic oak
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who Elon musk claims is better at math than the average PhD
Only if better means being able to recite facts that can be googled

unborn quiver
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Has someone with an actual math PhD confirmed this claim

rustic oak
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And then proceeds to demonstrates zero knowledge of actual math

tired hollow
unborn quiver
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Although this result would be big, a 3 page paper with 1 citation is insufficient for the detail necessary to prove such a big claim (i.e. you can't get away with hand waving here)

tired hollow
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I think it’s legit

median forum
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The problem is in 5. You don't actually establish any of these bounds

unborn quiver
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Yeah, the claims of "can be..." don't provide any explicit details in the matter

quaint pumice
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we don't care what grok has to say it's a stochastic parrot and all current LLMs are sycophants

shy narwhal
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🦜s are cute

quaint pumice
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it's not usable to verify proofs in intro classes much less for a millennium problem

rustic oak
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The easiest way to spot an AI generated proof is
[trivial step]
[trivial step]
[trivial step]
[trivial step]
[highly non-trivial step that's the hardest part of the proof but provides zero elaboration other than claiming the step is possible]
[trivial step]
[trivial step]

tired hollow
median forum
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The hard step is getting to gronwall

tired hollow
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Ok so expand further on section 5?

median forum
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i guess, currently the first step of the estimate involves taking a derivative inside a supremum which seems sketchy without justification to me, and the rest just doesn't exist

buoyant pike
meager dune
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Where is existence mentioned

tired hollow
lilac barn
tired hollow
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Equation (4) is the decay condition given in the problem statement. It ensures the initial conditions decay faster than any polynomial. Given that condition you can show the initial conditions live in Schwartz.

tired hollow
# buoyant pike Are you saying that https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2500940122 is wro...

No, my understanding is that it actually complements this result. Their paper shows that blow-up can happen when viscosity is zero (Euler equations), while mine proves global smoothness assuming viscosity is positive (Navier–Stokes). Viscosity is what introduces enough dissipation to control the nonlinear term—it’s the reason we get a negative-definite contribution in the seminorm evolution, which allows us to bound all derivatives globally in time

median forum
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Your paper just doesn’t establish this bound though. I’m trying to engage in good faith here but it’s hard when you just say things are untrue

tired hollow
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Plus consider the key insight. Initial conditions necessarily live in shchwartz space, Schwartz space is closed under all the operations of Navier stokes. There is no way to evolve the field under Navier stokes that can make it leave Schwartz space. Therefore it remains globally smooth for ever and ever. The seminorms do stay bounded but I think that’s beyond what’s even necessary really

buoyant pike
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Well doesn't your argument that solutions remain in schwartz space apply even without diffusion

tired hollow
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I think the diffusion is part of how and why they remain in Schwartz is more accurate

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Or maybe even more accurate yet is that because they’re in Schwartz space, there is sufficient diffusion

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But yes ChatGPT just agreed the Schwartz argument is enough. We showed the seminorms don’t blow up.. but it would be enough just to show membership of initial data in Schwartz and Schwartz closure under Navier stokes. We showed seminorms don’t blow up but you’re right we technically did not need to

astral vine
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Ah Yes if Chat-Superior Math-GPT says so

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(you can make current Chat GPT version fail 1st year problems)

tired hollow
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I can fail some first year problems too and I’m pretty good at math

astral vine
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Sure

tired hollow
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Lol good attitude man

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You think your Gauss or something?

astral vine
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Absolutely not

tired hollow
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I’m not claiming to be either.. but I do math. And I do it pretty well.. and you don’t know me

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I don’t just blindly trust everything ChatGPT says

lilac barn
# tired hollow I think the diffusion is part of how and why they remain in Schwartz is more acc...

I had a bit more of a look on "your" paper and there are multiple issues:

  1. Theorem 1 is nothing but a trivial exercise students prove as soon as they learn about Schwartz functions.
  2. The same goes for 2, heat semigroup preserving Schwartz is just a one-liner, doesn't deserve a section on its own.
  3. Why does Leray projector maps Schwartz into Schwartz?
  4. Much more destructively, your section 5 is purely wrong. You claim that you're able to obtain the bounds because p can be written as u otimes u but that's not true. Pressure is expressed as a particular singular integral of u and it's not at all obvious that you can have Schwattz control on it. Nevermind the fact you include the initial data out of nowhere.
  5. Even if your inequality is correct, Gronwall doesn't give you Global control, only local in time as the initial data isnt time-integrable.
tired hollow
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I collaborate with it. I make it better and it makes me better

astral vine
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I can produce a Schwartz fucntion s.t. the Leray proj. is not Schwartz

lilac barn
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Yes, indeed

tired hollow
lilac barn
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All initial data?

lilac barn
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More simply, the claim reduces down to saying dx (dxx)-1 dx maps Schwartz into Schwattz which is false. Try picking a bump function and note that the inverse Laplacian can allow you to add any affine function

astral vine
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Because the leray projection somehow "blows" on low frequencies

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with what cocat said, take a Schwartz function with non-0 mean value

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you will have some surprises

lilac barn
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Also even if we grant you the last inequality, that still doesn't give you Global

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Gronwall here only gives you local

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As the initial data is time independent, you usually need some sort of time integrability of a quantity to get global control.

astral vine
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Except if you have L1(L^infty) control of the curl of your velocity

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so that you would be able to propagate time of existence

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Or some other similar Baele-Kato-Majda crietrion

lilac barn
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Put simply, AI isn't gonna solve something in 3 pages on which mathematicians have been stuck for ages.

tired hollow
buoyant pike
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Divergence free functions can have non-zero mean

astral vine
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Divergence free L1 is included in mean-0 component wise

lilac barn
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What? Doesn't matter if it's smooth. Passing to frequency, it simply says (sum xi1) uhat(xi)=0. Since mean is just uhat(0) so you can definitely have non-zero mean without requiring smoothness

astral vine
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On Lp mean value over the whole space makes no sense the integral is not a linear form

lilac barn
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Idk what you're saying but I'll take your word for it.

astral vine
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also on other function spaces that do not embbed in L1

astral vine
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Litteral Hell

tired hollow
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The key is initial data in Schwartz. That means it decays extremely rapidly in all directions, which forces the mean integral to converge to 0 over all space.

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Which makes the Leray projection in Schwartz

astral vine
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What ever this might be true for the formula obtianed through DuxtDu to compute p

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This is where is the issue

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but what ever happens you won't sell it to me, and you know what ? That's not important. Submit your work to a reasonable journal, and give talks about it. If it convinces other people and they are happy of your work, this is the most relevant

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Who cares about Cocat, Ange' or me.

tired hollow
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I’m not submitting to journal #justiceforperelman.. no peer review is fucked because people act just like youre treating me. Closed minded.

astral vine
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I already missed the point on some papers, wouldn't be a first.

unborn quiver
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But regardless, as people have mentioned, there are people trying to remain level headed in trying to understand what you are trying to say. However, you are also kind of applying the faith of "I'm pretty sure this is right" after 'discussing' with chatgpt or whatever. People will be skeptical, but you can reduce skepticism if the paper has bonafide details beyond blind statements saying on the lines of "it's possible to do this"

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I'm assuming you've read papers on navier stokes or at the very least have read books on Fourier analysis and distribution theory (considering you are writing on Schwartz functions) so a good place to start understanding the rigor necessary to get a point across is there

meager dune
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Not sure it is really fair to call people here closed minded lol

tired hollow
# unborn quiver I'm assuming you've read papers on navier stokes or at the very least have read ...

No I haven’t read books. I’ve talked to ChatGPT and googled and read definitions from wolfram Alpha and then cross referenced with a different AI, Grok, and went back and forth over and over again until we all agreed the proof was correct. I have a bachelors, have two papers self published, one of which was picked up and put on the OEIS. I failed out the first semester of my PhD due to illness.. and that’s where I’m coming from. A solid foundation in mathematics but not an expert by any means on PDEs or Fourier transforms… but maybe that’s part of what helped me digest the full scope of the problem. I wasn’t bogged down in the details of why it hasn’t been solved yet

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Oh and I read the official problem statement

unborn quiver
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That's not really what I was saying, it was more about using other books/papers to determine how to communicate your results in a way that other experts in the field can understand while also being able to give you more direct advice instead of blatant skepticism

tired hollow
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Ah ok I see thank you

unborn quiver
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It's a little bit counterintuitive, but a lot of the interesting math would be coming from the details on how you're able to arrive to the bounds you claim to be able to get to based on the structure of the PDE

tired hollow
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It’s more about the structure of the field under the operations in the PDE

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Is that what you mean?

meager dune
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some other comments: i think it is worth focusing much more on the harder / newer ideas and really drawing those out - this seems a bit like the opposite. like you could just skip over the standard "theorem 1" and stuff and just write a whole document on the seemingly more dubious section 5, and that would be more fruitful i believe

tired hollow
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Theorem 1*

meager dune
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Well as cocat said it is a standard exercise. i'm pretty sure N-S is often stated just for Schwartz data anyway

tired hollow
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Also thank you everyone for your feedback even if slightly adversarial at times

unborn quiver
# tired hollow Is that what you mean?

What I'm saying is that basically all of the interesting math will be located here, but there aren't any specific ideas/details conveying how these bounds arise

meager dune
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this is what i mean too

median forum
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Agree

meager dune
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I think it is important for the health of maths to be a bit adversarial about things like this

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but also to be charitable and definitely not personal

quick pagoda
unborn quiver
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Even stating a concept such as "... Negatively due to laplacian smoothing" should be supported with a citation or a proof

meager dune
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I feel like a comment in this vein is i would recommend idk stating this stuff a bit more humbly, like the fact it keeps mentioning this is a clay institute prize and states the first result as a "Theorem" and has no citations or anything will indubitably rub people the wrong way

quick pagoda
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And, like, showing the Leray thing spits out something Schwartz sounds pretty contentious with the above discussion

tired hollow
quick pagoda
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I’m not convinced the claims make sense at all, but yes actually show some work

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Otherwise it’s not a proof but an unsubstantiated claim

meager dune
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this reminds me that there is a clay research conference in october

unborn quiver
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Let alone incorrect

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But that's kinda just how math is bc your first or second idea isn't always correct... And also why this is still an open problem

quaint pumice
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this discord continues to make me regret working in ML lmao

lilac barn
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Can we not continue to have this discussion in adv-pde? The refutations of the above "paper" has been posted and debated quite a bit now. This is now turning into borderline spam.

meager dune
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Make a thread

tired hollow
unborn quiver
tired hollow
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And a lot of the “work” does come from me, just FYI

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Also I did just read a textbook about Schwartz functions and the math still checks out

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Initial conditions live in Schwartz, Schwartz is closed under all operations of navier stokes, therefore a solution exists in Schwartz space and it is necessarily globally smooth

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All the math about seminorms being bounded is extra

median breachBOT
tired hollow
cunning sable
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Ironic, seeing as you seem happy with blindly accepting and posting an obviously faulty AI-made "proof" while barely understanding the basics of the objects you're working with. Since you seem to be adamant in posting work that is not your own I'm removing you from the advanced channels

Please stay on topic

rustic oak
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That works too

meager dune
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Wow academia being closed-minded as usual

quaint herald
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#justiceforperelman

meager dune
buoyant pike
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woog they are gone

worn badger
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Oh stare, deleted then

cunning sable
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actually that was a very good message regarding why exactly LLM usage is frowned upon here and what limitations these models have currently, even if a bit off-topic

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(where by "LLM usage" I really mean copy-pasting its output or just uploading some pdf file without review or when you are simply not qualified enough to understand and critique its output)

frank prism
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Not to drift off topic (maybe we can move to #advanced-lounge or something, ping me there if you reply), but I think Tao was dead wrong here.

LLMs have certain strengths (namely for me, the complete recall of all the things in the field, there are many situations where there might be 6 relevant techniques to what I'm doing and I only remember 4 or 5 off the top of my head, but the LLM remembers all 6) but are so terrible at actually being correct, that I don't think it's a good assessment, or even really a fair comparison: do we want LLMs replacing grad students, as opposed to developing in the future into hopefully useful research tools to help mathematicians?

worn badger
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The problem arises when the human corrects the AI only about topics they know enough about, when discussing topics at the edge of their understanding capacity. Eventually the LLM learns (in-context) to create unfalsifiable narratives/code/etc because it's easier than creating something of value. This is a really big open problem in AI right now, with no solution in sight for at least the next couple years. Until then it's going to remain frowned on when relied upon in contexts where consistency and verification are core expectations of participants involved, such as here on this server.

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If anyone is interested in why exactly that happens or what the precise open problem statement or formulation is we can chat somewhere else 😌

regal patio
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honestly i find it's like magic, but at the end of the day it's just math and a ton of lean4 ^^

cunning sable
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I am looking at the proof if this thm

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I don't really get this step

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How did they find this sequence?

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They say it just follows from 3.5.5 (that's just the fact that L^2 norm of beta(x, t) is non-increasing as a function of t

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might be obvious but I can't see how that just follows

arctic whale
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Energy of the form

median forum
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You have this formula for energy, and the energy is decreasing and bounded above

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I was reading something about separation of variables, and how Stone-Weierstrass allows us to conclude that the algebra generated by solutions obtained by separation of variables are dense in the solution space. How do we conclude this?

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You just show that you can separate points and then you can apply the theorem

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wooden mango
# rotund jetty Stone Weierstrass is one way to show that the Fourier basis is dense in $L^2$, w...

I agree with this. The solutions form a vector space, and thus an algebra. Stone-Weierstrass basically gives conditions for the existence of a dense subalgebra, and if we can show that this dense subalgebra is generated by product functions obtained by separation of variables, we are done. My only qualm with this is that I am not sure how we should apply this. Your remark that a product of dense subsets is dense in the product set is fair, but I don't see why this is helpful here

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The other thing is that the domain for our functions should be $H^2_0$ (or something very similar), not $C_0$, but $H^2_0\subset C_0$, and the topology of $H^2_0$ is stronger than that of $C_0$

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Sleepybear

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This motivates the study of the eigenfunction expansion, since it immediately gives us the solution $f$

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maybe you can do it for C^2 functions

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and then try to extend to H^2

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for C^2 functions you can use stone weierstrass to approximate the 2nd derivative

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and then hopefully integrate that to control the lower order derivatives

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maybe assuming things are compactly supported and then removing that via another approximation later

undone sable
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I mean, this works because the laplace operator acts nicely on products

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How could I possible generalize this result to $\mathbb{R}^k$, the ODE: $\frac{d^n}{dx^n}y= \text{a power-tower composed of n y's}$ has the solution $y(x)=\text{slog}{b}(x)=\text{ln}\left(-\frac{1}{2\pi i}\displaystyle\oint{\gamma} \frac{b^z}{b^z-x}dz\right)$ where $\text{slog}b (x)$ is the base $b$ Super Logarithm of $x$. If we call the power-tower of $n$ $y$'s: $ P_n (y)$ then my guess is that we would have to find some function $L(f)$ that turns are PDE from $F=0$ to $L(F)=\displaystyle\sum{i=1}^{k} P_n (F_i)=0$ where $F_k$ is the $k$th component of a function living in $\mathbb{R}^k$

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StellerYak

buoyant pike
astral vine
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hey guys, can I ask about Lyapunov stability here?

buoyant pike
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Well, we certainly can't stop you

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ok thanks

lilac barn
buoyant pike
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As a non-expert lol: how does this paper look lol

pulsar forge
waxen bobcat
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Roughly speaking the idea of the paper is to reduce the Analysis to a perturbed heat equation (with some additional parameter lambda) called the Lamé evolution problem (which is equivalent somehow to the non-linear heat equation by itself, for fixed parameter, up to an appropriate rescaling).

For such a perturbed Heat equation equation the author claims that his non-linear heat equation admits unique smooth Global-in-time solutions, with some bound uniform with respect to lambda.

The authors seems to claim that sending lambda to infinity allows to construct a limit solution to Navier-Stokes and due to the uniform bound and smoothness properties of the approximating problem.

quick pagoda
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It’s a much more real attack than some recent ones

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The issue to me is about claiming existence and uniqueness for such a perturbed Heat equation

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this is where there is a hole according to me

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Moreover, there are a lot of inconsistencies and weird things, like writing the symbol of the differential operator

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Functionanatolysis

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as

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Functionanatolysis

astral vine
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which is not true

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PseudoDifferential clauclus does not work like this

quick pagoda
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I’m not convinced this is right but it’s, like, a way more sophisticated one

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So it’s better than AI ones immediately

astral vine
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not so sure it is not AI generated I would say

quick pagoda
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That would be quite the twist, it looks better

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Author does seem to have other papers about this Lamé equation, but not really others about N-S which is a bit strange.

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The Lamé system arise quite naturally when studying viscous fluid flows, so by itself this is not really weird

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Greetings and salutations

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I am trying to figure out what the Green's function for the biharmonic equation on the sphere is

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So $\Delta^2\phi=f$ on $S^2$, the unit sphere

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Angetenar

buoyant pike
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For reference, the Green's function for the Poisson equation, $-\Delta \phi=f$ is $G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y})=-\frac{1}{4\pi}\log(1-\mathbf{x}\cdot\mathbf{y})$

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One way of deriving this is by looking at a spherical harmonic series

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So for the Poisson equation, $G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y})=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{2n+1}{4\pi}\frac{1}{-n(n+1)}P_n(\mathbf{x}\cdot\mathbf{y})$

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buoyant pike
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Coming from the Convolution theorem and the fact that Laplacian of Y_l^m is -l(l+1)Y_l^m

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Ok so for the biharmonic equation, the bilplacian of Y_l^m is l^2(l+1)^2Y_l^m

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So the corresponding Green's function should be $G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y})=\frac{1}{4\pi}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{2n+1}{n^2(n+1)^2}P_n(\mathbf{x}\cdot\mathbf{y})$

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buoyant pike
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Which is all well and good, if you compute partial sums they look like this

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Ok

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So for a closed form

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Online, you will find several sources which present a closed form of $G(\mathbf{x},\mathbf{y})=\frac{1}{4\pi}\mathrm{dilog}(1/2(1-\mathbf{x}\cdot\mathbf{y}))$

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buoyant pike
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Which looks like

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It is reflected across the y axis!

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Changing it to 1/2(1+x*y) fixes this

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So what's going on

waxen bobcat
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That's quite recent stare

buoyant pike
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All this wonderful machinery and no closed form expression for S^2

broken hamlet
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Does anyone know of a more modern reference for this inequality? This comes from Hamilton's book "Harmonic maps of manifold with boundary"

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$L^p_k = W^{k, p}$ in the analyst's notation

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shingtaklam1324

broken hamlet
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In PDEs and geometric analysis, many proofs go like "consider the following function (slams a very wired cooked-up function)" and then proceed to show how the maximum principle (or some form of a comparison argument) will give you what you want.
In some instances the function is not convoluted enough that you can kind of heuristically justify why would've someone though about that. In some other instances you can kind of reverse-engineer it if you know what this function needs to satisfy and you describe that as an ODE that you can solve. But in many other instances, the given function just comes out of nowhere. How should I approach that? I am trying to learn as much as I can from proofs but when the proof boils down to "behold the magical function", I am not sure what I should learn from that.

heady silo
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I mean, as you said, sometimes you can work backwards

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“Hey, I think this statement is true, but if I was to show it by producing an example in this fashion, what would it have to look like?”

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“If I could solve problem P with f such that XYZ holds, what must be true of f”

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Or, what are sufficient condition, and then cooking up f to satisfy those etc

verbal nebula
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Anyone have a good reference for Paradifferential Calculus? My advisor was mentioning some work by Chemin on this, but he seems to have forgotten the title

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\sout{Does anybody here know about disconjugate odes?}

broken hamlet
# arctic whale In PDEs and geometric analysis, many proofs go like "consider the following func...

So I think the question has two parts. First is what properties this special function should satisfy (eg. some growth/decay condition, regularity, ...). The second one is how to construct a function that has those properties. I think the first question can usually be answered by looking at the proof, but the second one mostly comes from trial and error (and experience makes this process faster)

undone sable
verbal nebula
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Damn Volume 3

lime crow
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Can anyone recommend an introductory PDE book with decent theory and good collection of problems?

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Strauss was good

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You can supplement a lot of the theory with Evan’s once you’re more familiar with the content