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So I was studying DFT today and they an approach like this and so I was wondering why we don't do a similar approach for continuous signals...
Okay so can we just use fourier series on a decaying signal and then periodically extend that signal, take the fourier series of that signal, then just piecewise it so that we only take the part from a to b that the signal is significant over?
I've studied fourier analysis with continuous signals and am familiar with the fourier transform as well
Just wondering why I've never seen an approach like this before
the fourier transform is defined as an integral on the real line while the fourier coefficients are defined to be an integral on an interval. what exactly are you asking?
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I'm not asking about the definition of a fourier transform. I know what they are.
I'm asking in the context of signal processing. Fourier transform very roughly is a way of applying fourier series to nonperiodic functions and expanding them in terms of complex exponentials
In DFT (discrete fourier transform), we do a similar approach to the one I mentioned if you read my original post, for periodic and non-periodic finite, causal signals
I'm wondering if we can approximate a continuous finite function using a fourier series in an approach like that
you're confusing the purposes of the fourier series and fourier transforms. just because they have the name "fourier" in it, doesn't mean they both should do the same thing
i didn't say you didn't understand their formulas
i said you're confusing their purposes
that they should be compared to each other at all
or at least to the extent you're trying to
fourier series can already give approximations to continuous finite functions
fourier transforms produces a completely new function
there is deeper connection with regards to hilbert spaces of square summable sequences and square integrable functions, but that requires more machinery
and has nothing to do with applications like signal processing
So was my original approach with approximating continous finite functions valid then using fourier series?
I understand this. In a certain kind of limit the texts compares it to fourier coefficients.
A lot of signal processing texts arrive at the fourier transform by taking the fourier series, periodically extending a non-periodic function, then taking the limit of the period approaching infinity
That was the basis of my comparison
yea that's hand-waving and fine if you don't care about rigor
just tells a nice story
Hmm I see thanks for the help
what are you actually trying to solve
estimate continuous functions with finite support or something else?
or are you supposed to actually find the fourier transform of it
Also I've seen this a bit when studying quantum mechanics. Found it intriguing that the position space wavefunction and the momentum space wavefunction were fourier transforms of each other
Not really trying to solve a particular problem, more a curiosity of mine
yea once again, the math doesn't care about the application
distance, momentum, frequency, time, it does not matter
Pretty cool thanks again for the help 🙂
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mistake here
is it 16u^1/2 not 4u^1/2??
that's one of the mistakes, yes
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i dont know how to do the coordinates for problem 2a
lets start with the asymptote, because you were very close.
yeah.. i dont know how i got that wrong i figured it out after that its 3
also fixed that the domain is negative inf to 3
when you are trying to find asymptotes, you have to find when the function is undefined (this isnt a general case, but it is for logarithms)
if you plug in x=-3 you will get -2ln(6)-2, which is defined
all good, ive definitely made mistakes like that in the past
and i think most of the mistakes stem from that minor sign error
ya def when i look back on it
just 3-x > 0 -> 3 > x -> x < 3
yep yep thats what i did when i redid it
the domain is pretty easy to solve for once you know the asymptote
i dont know how to do the cords tho like now i understand the domain and asymptote but i still dont get the cords
hmmm, i dont really understand what they are asking either
i can explain that but idk how to apply it let me just type what it means
so the parent function is 2^x
is what they’re saying i believe
and then they transformed it
its like we use the image points (0,1) and (1,2) then apply the transformations thats happening to those points
ya
to be log_2 of all that
so like how the x and y points change like horizontal shift of 3 and then idk somrhow i should get two points on the graph
ok so if the parent function contains the point (0,1) we wish to find where this point gets mapped to
ya ya
so we can first think about what does the transformation 2^x -> log_2(x) do to some point (a,b) on 2^x
hint: ||inverse functions||
turns it negative 😔
no
thats all i got
ohhh
the inverse functions interchange the x and y yea
since they’re really a reflection over y = x
waitt that makes so much sense now
okk
can you see how it’s reflected over the line y = x
just imagine flipping either of the curves over the line y = x
ohh ya i see now
it will cover the other curve
after that do i just apply the transformations thats happening
so the point (0,1) on 2^x goes to (1,0) on log_2(x)
then we have some other transformations
ya i think for x then itll be 2?
reflect over y axis, left 3, reflect over x axis, then down 2
wait let me think about this more
i think i messed up like i usually use the x naught thing
nevermind i get it 😸
thsnk u guys very mind opening convo
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hey guys, is
Sin theta = o/h and y/r
Part of any of the identities (Quotient reciprocal and phytagorean)
or are they just the definition?
they're derived from the pythagorean theorem if thats what youre asking
OKII thank you !! yes thats what i was asking
tysmmmm
ofc, np!
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what is this dude
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tried everything but nothing worked
feels like im approaching the question incorrectly
i made some progress on lhl
if you notice, the first sigma is a_0 + a_2 + a_4 + ...., and second one is a_1 + a_3 + a_5 + .....
can you somehow get this from the given info?
ye
Like (x+y)^n + (x-y)n gives 2(nc0()+ nc2()....
Smth like this?
the given sigma, if you expand it
ye
think if you can get what we want from this
we want these 2
hmm
we can
how?
put x=1
idk
im sorry if im a little dumb I just finished an organic chemistry test
o
What about left side of the equation
{(1-x)+x^3}^n
if u put x= 1 u get 1^n expansion which is just 1
1 for both 1 and -1
put x= -1 u get 10^n
1-x+x³, put x=-1, 1-(-1)+(-1)³ = 1
both are equal
Should i equate them to each other?
how
yes but one is all addition and one has alternating +/-
and we want these
add them
1
add the rest of the equation too
ohh
u get two times()
so 2 gets cancelled
ohhh

why is the gif there
In the question
to make it look complex probably
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idk about that but it's not an impedance in solving this question, you can just ignore it
oh ok
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I am studying the Laplace equation in EM and want to know why the exact 2D Laplace equation is the one in the image, why g seems to be a reciprocal of a distance formula, and why the solution function needs to be close to that of a plane.
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I have a question related to linear algebra.
Given two matrices A and B and their product AB.
If the first and second rows of B are the same then so are that of AB.
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This statement is false and I thought it is correct.
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My interpretation is we can consider each row of B as individual vectors.
Therefore, multiplying B by A is actually operating the transformation encoded in matrix A to these vectors inside matrix B.
I have a correction to be made about my question.
Yeah, but the result of multiplication between the vector and A depends on the entire rows of A.
The rows of A imply what kind of transformation it is.
Not just one rows of A, though.
If two vectors are identical then they should be the same after being transformed by some matrix.
Hold on
Since you're calculating AB, the first row of AB depends on the first row of A, but the entirety of B.
I thought you're calculating BA for a sec.
I actually have to make a correction
It should be “If the first and third rows of B are the same then so are that of AB.”
So it is the first and the third rows rather than the first and the second rows.
I think my conception that regarding each row of B as vectors in the space is valid.
Yeah, no. You would've been right if you were regarding each row of A, or each column of B.
Why would consider each column of B as vectors to be valid and that of each row to be false.
You can look at how multiplication is defined for matrix.
I did that and the result of operation shows that this is a false claim.
Yet, I cannot still figure out why my interpretation is false.
You can think matrix multiplication AB as the dot product between each rows of A and each columns of B.
Note that it's not "each rows of A and each rows of B"
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Find lim z-> inf z\left(\ln\left(z+1\right)\right)\ -\ z\left(\ln\left(z\right)\right)
,, \lim_{z \to \infty} \left[ z \ln(z+1) - z \ln(z) \right]
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z(ln(z+1/z))
(wrote this wrong btw)
Rewrite this a bit more 
I don't know the derivative of ln(f(x)). 😄 LOL
chain rule
so 1/f(x) * f'(x)
(doing this without lopital's is probably considerably easier though!)
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Do you know the value of the limit $\lim_{n\to\infty} \qty(1 + \frac1n)^n$ by any chance?
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idk but you should prob learn differentiation before doing such questions
hence my suggestion here
Can you make something like that appear here?
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Hello, good afternoon, my question is: I have a mapping where each component is contractive, that implies that the mapping is contractive?
this is the mapping
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Should I be using parentheses for arcsin like that?
And am I using the ≈ sign correctly? That's all I need to know
Feels like I'm using too many ≈
it's fine
Hmm you sure it's not excessive?
All right, and what does ⟺ mean?
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I saw this in a list of examples:
That should be -420, correct?
Result:
420
That's positive, though
420 is the right number and negative is the right sign
,calc (-1 (7/3)) / 180
Result:
-0.012962962962963
-420 is the right answer like i said here
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I dont get what to do for this question
I know that $$(f^{-1})'(y) = \frac1{f'(x)} = \frac1{f'(f^{-1}(y))}$$
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is that literally the entire question or is there more to it
That’s it
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am i right with D here i tested n = 0 and it satisfies one of the points
correct
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thank you sm
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Well, you should also notice that there's an extra 2 inside sin(2x)
Therefore, this should ring you a bell
i need to work on my trig identities 😭
Yeah they appear quite often in derivatives (and also integrals)
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How do u do question 1 f)?
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Hi
How about u=tan^2(x) might help better
Ok
Tazculator
Wtf is that
Tazculator!
...
Help me with this
It is the complement of the square
Nah fr
Tazculator
I took the step after this
3u²-4u+1=0
Ok
Tazculator
Well you can solve for u in different ways
the way Tazcularor suggested is completing the square
I wrote that thing above in another way
Let's not use taxular pms
Or wtv it's called
You simply wanna use the quadratic formula yea ?
Tazculator!
Ig
This is what I'm doing for this other question
I would have proceeded like this
Tazculator
Tazculator
Ty for tryna help but idk what ur doing
Hi
Yo
Yo
Help me
Waluigi time

Is this right so far?
What do I do now?
Damn
How
I have a test on this
So pls
Someone tell me
Looks correct but you still need to solve for tanx
How 😭
Its clear what tazcalculator said
u=tanx then
-1/3=tan(x)
yea
@sharp dock Bro Is here !
After that?
yk what values of x that satisfy
tan(x)=-1/3 And also tan(x)=1
(Bcz u also equals 1)
Damn
like tan(x)=-1/3 when x= ?
No
Tan(x)=-1/3 -> x=arctan(-1/3)
Yes
I'll figure the rest out
Where
The final answer should be pi/4, and 5pi/4
,w tan(x)=-1/3
,w tan(x)=1
Using the cast rule
Where tan is -
Right
Is that all?
Tan is negative in the 2nd and 3rd quadrant
Wdym
When you make the arctangent even the minus I have to put in
It's not 5π/4
π/4 is what you end up with
Huh how
Please how
Can someone please write it on paper for me?
For the love of God
I'm about to lose it
I'm sorry but idk
,w tan(x)=1
Ok ok
BUT HOWOWWW
Man it's alr
Ima figure it out on my own or ask the teacher
This isn't helping
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What
What is not clear
Okay
Tell me where to start
sin(x)=t
What?
This leads you back to a second degree algebraic equation
I don't wanna know what it leads me to
You solve it and then return to sin(x)
Can you solve it on paper? And show me the final answer
No
Wait
I can't do it now
I got the answer anyway
It was easy
t=-3 , t=1 -> sin(x)=1 -> x=π/2
Yes
Yes
Then we factor it
So t² + 3t - 1t -3 =0?
Bros are cooking
Yea so 3 × -1 is -3 and 3 + -1 is 2
Charge it
Alr anyways thanks for trying to help ig
I'll ask chatgpt
Wait
Okok
Find the solutions and then return to sin(x)
You will get a solution sin(x)=-3 which makes no sense because sin≥-1
Always the same thing
CSC(x)=t
Okok
Ok nvm I got it
Cya
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Alr wtv
Cya
Ty btw
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How did you get this equation
shouldn't there only be one dV/dt
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you used ohms law right
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ok
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how did you get dI/dt as -1/3
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in the probllem?
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ohhh my bad
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yeah so u can just isolate for dR/dt lmao
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(12 + 2) / 2 = 7
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one second ill think abt it
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dV/dt isnt 12
its 1
cuz its increasing at 1 volt per second
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OH i see
yeah there shouldnt be a V there
just dV/dt
try with 1 and see if it works
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Martha claims she can roll triples with three dice in fewer than 15 rolls.
What is the expected number of rolls that it would take to roll the first set of triples?
Why doesnt the geometric formula q/p work
where q is the probability of failure and p is the probability of success
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Trying to orthogonally diagonilse this [
\begin{bmatrix}
3 & 1 & 1 \
1 & 3 & -1 \
1 & -1 & 3
\end{bmatrix}
]
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so I start by finding it's eigenvalues
so the eigenvalues of 1 and 4, with 4 having a geometric multiplicity of 2
So you get 2 for free and you just need to make sure the second eigenvector for 4 is ortho to the first
Once you have the matrix of eigenvectors you just need to invert it
And you're done
mhm
so I'll now have to solve $\begin{bmatrix} 2&1&1\1&2&-1\1&-1&2 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} x\y\z\end{bmatrix}=0$
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u.v = 0 if and only if u perp v.
yes
If we consider the first two columns
We have 2 + 2 - 1 = 3
These are not orthogonal
But you need orthogonal eigenvectors
I'm solving to find eigenvectors
Am I missing something?
The diagonal matrix is just the matrix of eigenvalues
$\begin{bmatrix}1&0&0\0&4&0\0&0&4 \end{bmatrix} \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x \y \z \end{bmatrix}=0$
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Exactly
\begin{bmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 4 & 0 \
0 & 0 & 4
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x \
y \
z
\end{bmatrix}
= 0
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And for this diagonal matrix, your eigenvector matrix will have in its first column the eigenvector for 1.
And the second and third columns the eigenvectors for 4
so what would the spctral decomposition look like?
P^(-1) D P where P is the eigenvector matrix and D is the eigenvalue matrix
Ooooh, I see what you did now
Sorry, I thought you were claiming that the matrix with 2s in it was the eigenvector matrix already solved
It's just the matrix A - I
$\begin{bmatrix} 2&1&1\1&2&-1\1&-1&2 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} x\y\z\end{bmatrix}=0$
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Yes, ref does work with the augmented matrix
so I'll now have to solve $\begin{bmatrix} 2&1&1\1&2&-1\1&-1&2 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} x\y\z\end{bmatrix}=0$
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so I have $\begin{bmatrix} 2&1&1\0&3&-3\1&-1&2 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} x\y\z\end{bmatrix}=0$
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\begin{bmatrix}
2 & 1 & 1 \
0 & 3 & -3 \
1 & -1 & 2
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x \
y \
z
\end{bmatrix}
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$\begin{bmatrix}
0 & -3 & -3\
0 & 3 & -3 \
1 & -1 & 2
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x \
y \
z
\end{bmatrix}
= 0$
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$\begin{bmatrix}
0 & -3 & -3\
0 & 0 & -6 \
1 & -1 & 2
\end{bmatrix}
\begin{bmatrix}
x \
y \
z
\end{bmatrix}
= 0$
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no point in row reducing it further IMO
I already know z=0
so (1,1,-1) is an eigenvector
as 3y+2z=0;6z=0; z-y+2z=0
,w is (1,1-1) an eigenvector of [3,1,1][1,3,-1],[1,-1,3]
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,w eigensystem {{3, 1, 1},{1,3,-1},{1,-1,3}}
That's an eigenvector for 4 though
Probably an arithmetic error
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And you can add the second row to the third
yeah
To get x - z = 0
so that gives us (-1,1,1) as desired
So we have -x = y = z yeah
the other two eigenvector can be calculated similarly
Best of luck!
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hi how do you do this?
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u worked anything on this?
yep
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110.92 degrees and 535s (i got the working out for time right but i got the degrees wrong so i got the time wrong asw)
and you are wondering why your degree is different
you probably were supposed to add 90 degrees
i did that
this was my working
oh i see
like i got close to it but its not the right answer but i also dk whr i went wrong
walk me through hwo you got 0.5 and 1.4
good question wait a second
oh this is awkward i sent the working out for the wrong kinematics question
XD
the boat problem is the question though right?
yea
i also had problems with the other one (the one for the working i sent) but ill leave that to another channel
nope sorry
ok well thats how you get it
draw a picture, take the sume of x velocities and y velocities
combine them with squareroot(a^2 + b^2)
use inverse tangent to get angle
and then find the distance across the river with that angle
and solve for time
ok this might seem dumb but i always get confused on calculating the angle, like which angle r u meant to calculate
yes because of the 0.75 m/s flow of the river
is it cus the river pushes the boat like outwards
yeah
ohhh right so u just always find the angle with respect to whatever they give u basically?
rightt that makes sense
yeah thats a good general rule, and if you're off by 180 or 90 degrees the teacher will still know it's correct
alright got it thank you
wait if u dont mind
can u do the other kinematics question asw
ohh its not tan theta
No because it’s just combining the x velocities
yea i just made a silly mistake
Ah gotcha
Alright thank you for ur help
You’re welcome
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How do find a subgroup of a group that is the symmetries of a figure?
For example, if my figure is a rectangle (so is a group in S_4),
and is labelled as follows:
1--------4
| |
2--------3
How would I use the rectangle above to find a subgroup of S4
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How hectoliters in 3 liters in?
100L = 1 hectolitre
Then 1L = 1/100 hectolitre
3L = 3/100 hectolitre = 0.03 hectolitre
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Could anyone hint me for this? Im quite stuck
The previous question was to show that $b_n=\frac{a_1+a_2+\cdots+a_n}{n}$ converges to $a$
somethingwrong
oops just realised it should be $b_n=\sqrt[n]{a_1a_2\cdots a_n}$
somethingwrong
consider log(a_n)
ohh okay i think I see it, i haven't unlocked logarithms yet. but essentially i first show that (a_n) converges to a implies log(a_n) converges to log(a). Then, log(b_n)=(log(b_1)+...+log(b_n))/n which reduces to this previous question
if you don't have logarithms yet, there is an alternative way
do you have am-gm inequalities?
nope
but could you give me abit more about how I would go about using am-gm inequalities? I can only imagine getting an upper-bound at most
using the harmonic mean too
I think it was something like
$\sqrt[n]{a_1...a_n} \geq \frac{n}{\frac{1}{a_1}+...+\frac{1}{a_n}}$
rbit
now what would be left is to show that the harmonic mean indeed has limit a too
you can start with lim a_n = a and instead, consider
$\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{a_n} = \frac{1}{a}$
rbit
from here you can derive the harmonic mean
this all requires a_n > 0 though, well the question wouldn't really make much sense otherwise anyway
ah im still working through the method of taking logs
oh yes i realised that too
thanks for the this method too, I will try it when Im free
using log seems easier, this one is more elementary though
i think i get the gist of it
the proving of lim ln a_n = ln a is taking me abit but I'm getting there
there is one property that ln has, which makes this trivial pretty much, but if you don't have all that theory yet it will be tricky
continuity?
yeah
right, don't have that yet too unfortunately haha. but thanks again for the help
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How do I do 1b?
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<@&286206848099549185> how do u do this?
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what are you having trouble with
stick to one chanenl
treat it like a regular equation but when you multiply or divide across the inequality with a negative number flip it
what isnt this his only channel
that’s all
How?
I'm so lost
I expand it first right?
yep
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Alr nvm this isn't helpful
No one is helping
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would r(t) just be $t \hat i + t^2 \hat j + t \hat k$
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How would I go about solving this?
Hey how would I do the is fixing my throat
what is the height of each trapezoid? (you can see it in the images)
6+384672818+3926572818x48583818495827184958538divided by 138582
11 cm and 33
how do you find the ratio between 33 and 11?
each heigh *3
Subtract?

uh well 33*(1/3) is 11
but in this case the other way around
11*x = 33
(just solve for x)
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Hello! I am in need of help. I am currently challenging myself and trying to do Trigonometry, but obvioulsy I don't know ANY of the common formulas. As you can see, I already chose an answer. This was guessed however, because I don't know ANYTHING! Please someone help me. The photos of the questions are listed below:
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ik the calculator trick
do you want to find it in the calculator?
this is funny af
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