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plush latch
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but every number is a coefficent to 3^k

wheat elm
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I think I'm kind of getting it.

plush latch
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ye

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do you think u can do the second one?

wheat elm
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I think I can start it

plush latch
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nice

wheat elm
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orrr not lol fuck

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You spend one week in the hospital and it fucks you

plush latch
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make sure u write a little like summary that basically just says as the statement is true for n=k+1 it must be true for all n

plush latch
wheat elm
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Okay, so let's see if I translate it right

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For this question it's asking that for every positive interger n...

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and it seems I think recursive?

plush latch
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for equation 2 start out by writing a formula in terms of n for the value of the sum of the sequence

wheat elm
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is this where we use the weird s?

plush latch
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You dont really need to here tbh

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I mean you can if you want to look fancy but there isnt really any need

wheat elm
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Okay.

plush latch
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so the sequence is arithmetic

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each term has a difference of 2 and the sequence starts at 1

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so you can use the sum of series formula

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where a is the first term and d if the difference

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if you do there you get that the series is equal to

wheat elm
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ferm term?

plush latch
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first mb

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oh wait mb doing this just proves the whole thing without induction anyway

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ye you might need to use the sum notation then

wheat elm
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Then let's do the sum notation cause this does have to be induction

plush latch
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I will write down how to do the question on a whiteboard then send a screenshot

wheat elm
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let's see if I can get it before you lol. (*( I doubt it)

plush latch
wheat elm
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I need to install the mathrwriter lol

plush latch
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whats that

wheat elm
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a teacher of mine mentioned there's a mathmatical notation document editor

plush latch
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oh what so you type out maths notation in text

wheat elm
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Yup

plush latch
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do u get what I wrote on the white board tho?

wheat elm
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sort of?

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I'm kinda seeing the patterns but the words just... aren't there

plush latch
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wdym the words?

wheat elm
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well I can kind of see how we got to the last point, and how it proves the last thing, because essentailly that formula is just a distribute K+1^2, and we manaaged to kind of dissasemble it from the summation notation earlier

plush latch
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ye

wheat elm
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so we've proved I beleive, yes?

plush latch
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ye

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all u need to do is write the conclusion but ye thats essentially it

wheat elm
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the conclusion being that 2n-1 = n^2?

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or 1+(2n-1) = n^2?

plush latch
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the conclusion is just that because the statement is true for n=k+1 it must be true for all values of n

wheat elm
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Thank you

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You made this make a biiit more sense. At least through the pain medications

plush latch
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np

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errant flint
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errant flint
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can someone help me with question 15

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i understand you gotta use cosine law

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but is the total angle the boat turned 120

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and not 150

celest cove
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turned 30
but if youre doing a triangle from the start, turn and finish
the angle at the turn inside the triangle would be 150

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exterior angle would be the 30

errant flint
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could you explain that again

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like the second part

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split sail
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U still need help?

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meager gale
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meager gale
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i can do the q this way, im just wondering if theres a better way to do it

weak zinc
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The fact you know that’s a right angle, you can e.g. relate that to the tangent at said point SCsnuggle

meager gale
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if i find tangent at that point, its 2x

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idk what to do after that

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cause the (1,2) is just a point

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so idk what i can do

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also if i try perpendicular distance, i get an abs value, which i kinda dont want to deal with

weak zinc
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You e.g. wanna consider the line [segment] between (1, 2) and (x, x^2), and the same tangent you have

weak zinc
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See e.g. product of gradients is -1, dot product is zero etc etc

meager gale
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hmmm

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gimme a bit

meager gale
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do i find the normal?

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and sub in (1,2) as a pt?

weak zinc
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I mean, you could find the normal and consider that (1, 2) is on it

meager gale
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o

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ignore the fact that i didnt put =0 at the end

weak zinc
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(Or that you know the normal gradient is, say, (x^2 - 2)/(x - 1), and that of the tangent is 2x, so [as per the “product is -1” thing, 2x * (x^2 - 2)/(x - 1) = -1, and…)

weak zinc
meager gale
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so theres no escape from just factorising the polynomial really sadly

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and subbing it in

weak zinc
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I guess so sadCatThumbsUp

meager gale
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:( ic

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thanks chartbit

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sonic musk
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im not quite understanding how this works

sonic musk
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i think that it has to do with one function being greater than the other but im not quite following

red sandal
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what happens if a function bigger than another function converges

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what can you say about the smaller function

sonic musk
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then it converges

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?

red sandal
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yeah

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if a smaller function converges you can't say anything about the bigger function; it can diverge or converge

sonic musk
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so since 1/x^3 is the larger function and we know it converges we can state that the smaller one converges

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for the first part at least

red sandal
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yeah

sonic musk
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but then for the second part 1/x^3 is smaller, so we can't do the same

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am i understanding this right?

red sandal
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yep

sonic musk
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omg thanks

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this was much easier than the textbook

red sandal
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got you

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.solved

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cobalt shard
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(x-a)^2 / z^2 + (y-b)^2 / z^2 + (z-d)^2 / k^2 <= h

cobalt shard
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Can this be simplified? (Idk how to use wolf bot thing)

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Also what I mean by simplified is could it be dumbed down while still keeping the same variables and functions

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thick seal
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i feel like i don't have to share context for the problem

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its just plugging in kidn of thing

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w initial is 200^2

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w^2 is 50^2

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all over

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2(314)??

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its confusing me

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i do that but i don't get the right answer of -59.7

hard ermine
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It is using the rotational kinematic equation

thick seal
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yes

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Like but

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I am aat the part of plugging and chugging the easiy part

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but i cant get to -59.7 for some reason in my calc

hard ermine
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Can you show your work?

thick seal
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i put in my calc

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1 sec

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i take pic

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like i felt like its just basic plugs

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but i end up yeah getting a negative answer but some weird fraction

hard ermine
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-9375/157 is about -59.71

thick seal
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OH

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why am i getting af raction number tho

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;/

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i see tho thnxS!!!

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azure ember
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hopefully somebody knwos phsycis bc I DONT UNDERTSAND WHY THE EMISSITIVTY IN THE ANSWER IS 4. i did everything right but the 4

azure ember
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omll im going insane the question says e=1??

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and this is the equation in the data booklet

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P=eoAT^4

mint nacelle
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so a sphere has surface area 4pi r^2

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but at any one moment, the sun only shines on a disk of radius r at any one time
so the area illuminated is pi r^2

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so the power radiated per unit area of the sphere

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there's going to be a (pi r^2) / (4 pi r^2) = 1/4 in there

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to understand concepts like these in more detail, I highly recommend the Tsokos textbook

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copper kite
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prove that there no positive real integers such that x^2 - y ^2 = 10
(proof by contradiction algebraically, i cant test values)
what i did was i just put it as (x-y)(x+y) = 10, and after some solving got x = (10-y(x-y))/(x-y) hence we get x in the form of p/q, so its rational and not an integer. But i dont think that this is correct. I also tried another approach where x = root ( 10-y^2) but then idk where to go from there

copper kite
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would showing it by like taking x and y as a both an even and both as odd number, and do two different proofs, ( becuase for x^2 + y ^2 to be equal to 10, both x and y have to both either odd or even)

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so take x as 2a and y as 2b, and then take x as (2a+1) and y as (2b+1) and show it dosent work in both those cases

mint nacelle
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any real number squared cannot be negative

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so if x = 4 and x^2 = 16, then there are no solutions

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you just have to test x = 1, 2, 3 and you can swap x, y so that is sufficient

pseudo crescent
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isnt it false btw?

copper kite
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but my teacher keeps saying in proof by contradiction

mint nacelle
copper kite
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i have to do algebrically only

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and i cant do trial and error

pseudo crescent
mint nacelle
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also the thing you want to prove isn't even true

copper kite
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ya thats true

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i think the wquestion is bugged

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i think it should be x^2 - y^2 = 10

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but the questgion says x^2 +y^2 =10

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but even then

mint nacelle
copper kite
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then got x as p/q

mint nacelle
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well then you don't get integer values of x, y

copper kite
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ya

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so then it would contradicted

mint nacelle
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cause x - y and x + y must have the same parity

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yep

frank zealot
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wait the question is to prove that there exists no positive couple of integers satisfying x² + y² = 10?

frank zealot
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obviously

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10 = 3² + 1²

frank zealot
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spice dagger
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I want to learn about composition of functions when main function is given into piece wise intervals

spice dagger
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I tried to search over google but i didn't find any source...help

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viral coyote
spice dagger
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It is fof(x)

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@viral coyote

viral coyote
spice dagger
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Sry for bad handwriting

viral coyote
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Put each part in the x of itself
Idk how to explain it right

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For example
In the first part
Put (-x) in (x) so it will be -(-x) which means x

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In second put (x) in (x) so it will stay x

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In third part
Put (2-x) in x so (2-(2-x)) so x

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In this question (f o f)(x) will be = x for all x belongs to R

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Oh god
Math is beautiful

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Please if you didn't understand me ping helpers they will be better at explaining

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fierce edge
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fierce edge
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1/3 the area of square ABCD < area of triangle CDE?

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um

cunning birch
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what is the data

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just the figure?

fierce edge
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yep

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like okay if EDC was right then it's easy

cunning birch
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if E is closer from A than in this picture... like very close....

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then area of CDE is kinda area of CDA...

frank zealot
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u can draw the height coming from the point E to the base CD in triangle EDC

fierce edge
frank zealot
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youll notice its equal to AD

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and find each area

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and compare

fierce edge
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drop an altitude from E?

frank zealot
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from E

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yes

fierce edge
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and why do you know that'd be AD

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😭 am i missing something silly

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i could be

frank zealot
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cause

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say the altitude from E is the segment [EH]

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EHDA would be a rectangle

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thats cause any quadrilateral with three right angles is defined as a rectangle

coral wigeon
cunning birch
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anyways if you really wanna solve for area of CDE better to take 1/2 CD * DE * sinCDE

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name c the square side

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1/3 area of square ABCD is c^2/3

fierce edge
fierce edge
fierce edge
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can i like bound this?

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to account for the sin

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lemme try

frank zealot
cunning birch
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again if you don't have any specifications on where E is

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take E close enough to A

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area of CDE is kinda area of CDA so c^2/2

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area of ABCD/3 is c^2/3

fresh ocean
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Why do I have the area of CDE as exactly half the area ABCD?

fierce edge
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eh 0< sin(CDE) < 1

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technically ED > AD = c

cunning birch
fresh ocean
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similarity

cunning birch
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with?

fresh ocean
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EAF and CDF are similar

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so height is k times

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base is same for CFD and EFD

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so area is k times

cunning birch
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uh

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if lengths are multiplied by k

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wait

fresh ocean
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only height is multiplied

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base is common

cunning birch
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what height are you using for EDF

fresh ocean
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FEA and FED are same height diff base, so diff area

fresh ocean
cunning birch
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so AE * DF/2

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AE is k^2

fresh ocean
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yea

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no not k^2

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k*(k+1)

cunning birch
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why

fresh ocean
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its k times height of CDF

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and that is k+1

cunning birch
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ok yes

fresh ocean
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CD is height, DF is base

cunning birch
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ok

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I now agree

fresh ocean
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All my bases are on the side AD

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And heights AE and CD

cunning birch
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yes

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I'm all good

fresh ocean
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So why is this inequality question, when there is a clear equality relation here 😭

fierce edge
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😭

cunning birch
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the computation requires you to do that

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for 1/2 > 1/3

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and thus false everytime

fresh ocean
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I am so frigging dumb. We dont even need this shit. The base is CD and height is AD for the triangle

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ofc area is half

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😭

cunning birch
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rip

fierce edge
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i'm still confusedd how the height is AD

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did you just move E to a more convenient place

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so that you get that the height is AD?

fresh ocean
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Perpendicular from E on the base CD

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that height has same length coz the lines are parallel

cunning birch
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and the line parallel to (CD) that passes through E

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no matter where that line is

cunning birch
fresh ocean
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frick and I just read thru above messages and youssef said this already. AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

frank zealot
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yeah man

fierce edge
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😭 no i think i'm done

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i've been trying to draw the perpendicular

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okay i'll just draw it

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?

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or idk assume this is the perpendicular

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depending on what angle D is

fierce edge
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i'm probably being dumb or smth

fresh ocean
frank zealot
fierce edge
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tbh in my mind i had multiple caseworks

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for when D is right, acute, and obtuse

fierce edge
fierce edge
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we're using

frank zealot
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theres one altitude for each point of a triangle

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how do u

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nvm

fierce edge
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doesn't it depend on whether EDC is an acute, right, or obtuse triangle

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if it's right then the altitude is on ED

frank zealot
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no

fierce edge
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if it's obtuse it's outside

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if it's acute it's inside

frank zealot
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oh ur talking abt that

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but still theres one altitude

fierce edge
frank zealot
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for each point

fierce edge
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yeah but 😭

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i meant i had to do the casework for which type of triangle?

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i didn't know what u meant

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are we assuming that

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D is obtuse?

frank zealot
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well hope the view is clearer

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D is obviously obtuse

fierce edge
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but the question maker said u can't rely on the diagrams

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which don't have to be drawn to scale

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ughhh

fierce edge
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EF || AD

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and yeah ED > EF = AD

frank zealot
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so theres no issue

fierce edge
frank zealot
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ok

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we agree that AED is a right triangle in A yes?

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ADE would be an acute angle

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0 =< ADE =< 90

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and ADC = 90

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so

frank zealot
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90 =< ADE + ADC =< 180

azure ember
frank zealot
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by euclids axiom of angle addition

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90 < EDC < 180

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oops it should be strict

fierce edge
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one is like "on top"

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this drawing is confusing my senses

frank zealot
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its

fierce edge
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but yes i agree that CDA is 90

frank zealot
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literally easy to interpret

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ok look

fierce edge
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and also agree that ADC is acute

frank zealot
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no it isnt

fierce edge
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it is

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wdym

frank zealot
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u meant ADE?

fierce edge
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oh yeah

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i meant ADE is acute

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ADC is 90

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wait

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u meant this?

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bruh

frank zealot
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.

fierce edge
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i thought the square 😭 is above

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the triangle

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idk this drwaing is weird

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sorry

frank zealot
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either way

fierce edge
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ok yeah okay that's obvious

frank zealot
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u answered the question

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gj

fierce edge
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😭 thank you

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the drawing looks like 3d to me

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cuz of EC

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and so i was confused

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for the most part

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wait i still am

frank zealot
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are u kidding me

fierce edge
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LOL

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😭

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i'm sorry 😭

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no i get the math but what is that shape supposed to be

frank zealot
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its olay im used to this

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what shape

fierce edge
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EDCBA

frank zealot
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oh my god u made me look at it in 3d

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damn

fierce edge
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😭 i can't see it how you're seeing it

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i'm confused

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i have the whole 3d shape in my head

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just help me with that part idk how

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but if u can

frank zealot
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which part

fierce edge
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how are u seeing this in 2d

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i still think it's 3d 😭

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divert my attention LOL

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idk

frank zealot
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i

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idk i have better eyes

fierce edge
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:((

frank zealot
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i

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i see it 3d yes but cant u js control ur mind

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and view it 2d

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or try drawing the line EC continuous instead of

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line by line

fierce edge
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why tf is it in dashed line anyway

frank zealot
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or even better, delete that line

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no idea

fierce edge
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dashed line is supposed to represent a line you can't see

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in 3d

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but it exists

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yeah this isnt technology

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ok so

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uh

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1/3 area of ABCD < area of DCE

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thats all

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goodbye

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NOOOO not the math

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😭

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I need help seeing this in 2d LOl

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okay i think i'm just giving up on this nonsense

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but yes i get the math

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thanks for that

frank zealot
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js delete it

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we didnt even need it

fierce edge
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i'm going to stare at it

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till i can see the 2d

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😭

frank zealot
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do as u please

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okay i got it

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the EC line does intersect with AD

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my head doesn't want it to intersect

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cuz they don't in 3d

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false $A ={1}; B={2}$

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A dense set

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$A \cup B={1,2}$

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A dense set

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and X?

keen pawn
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$X =A \cup B$

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A dense set

keen pawn
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Invoking bezout;s lemma, gcd(42,7)=7.
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So $42a+7b=7$, not$42a+7b=1$

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A dense set

pseudo crescent
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hmm

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bezout lemma says that you can find a,b with 42a + 7b = 7

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I haven't taken set theory but something doesn't seem right about the first proof

keen pawn
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I think this could use some work

pseudo crescent
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but does it say that that there are no a,b, with 42a + 7b = 1?

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no

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hmm

pseudo crescent
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there is an extended version which implies it, but you dont need it

keen pawn
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got it

pseudo crescent
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this proof can be understood by a 6th grader

keen pawn
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$\frac{42a-1}{7}=b$

grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

tulip tapir
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did you finish the other one

keen pawn
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no

tulip tapir
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*sighs*

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keen pawn
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$42a \equiv 1mod(7)$

grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

tulip tapir
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the other other one? modular arithmetic?

keen pawn
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I have to check this

tulip tapir
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uhm

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is "a" an integer?

keen pawn
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yes

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tulip tapir
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that's not possible then???

keen pawn
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This is false, so not possible

tulip tapir
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42(integer) = 7(6 times integer)

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ah

pseudo crescent
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can you write out the proof?

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pseudo crescent
tulip tapir
pseudo crescent
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i dont recall fractions in the defn of modulo though

tulip tapir
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they aren't

pseudo crescent
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shh

tulip tapir
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got it

pseudo crescent
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i just want wai to formulate the proof in the right way

keen pawn
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yeah, $42a-1=7b$

grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

pseudo crescent
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okay, and?

keen pawn
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So I have to chck if $42a \equiv 1mod(7)$

pseudo crescent
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Why?

pseudo crescent
tulip tapir
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uhmmmmm

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wai

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check again

grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

pseudo crescent
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you're using unnecessarily complicated tools

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but okay

keen pawn
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ok, 42a-1 isn't a multiple of $7$ under any circumstance, thus not possible

pseudo crescent
grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

pseudo crescent
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Why?

keen pawn
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Let $a$ be even

grizzled pagodaBOT
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A dense set

keen pawn
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Okay, yeah, bad way to prove

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The reminder is always 5 by the division algorithm

pseudo crescent
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it's not

pseudo crescent
keen pawn
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Wiat

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I'm rolly confused

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*royaly

pseudo crescent
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try looking back at the original question

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look at the left hand side

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look at the right hand side

keen pawn
pseudo crescent
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no, 42a + 7b = 1

keen pawn
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okay

pseudo crescent
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and no fractions

keen pawn
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$a=bq+r$

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A dense set

keen pawn
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so $42a=-7b+1$

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A dense set

pseudo crescent
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can you name some numbers of the form 42a + 7b? What property do they all have? And does 1 have this property?

keen pawn
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They are all divisible by 7

pseudo crescent
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is 1 divisible by 7?

keen pawn
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no

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oh

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shit

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I see

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okay

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Got. it

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thanks!

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I feel like you are sometimes too proof-mindseted

keen pawn
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yeah

pseudo crescent
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maybe just try examples sometimes

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and get some intuition before starting a proof

keen pawn
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blobcry got it.

pseudo crescent
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starting a proof is useless if you dont even have idea yet

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there is nothing to cry about, you're able to both get an idea and do the proof

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you just need to do it in the right order

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Got it

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Enjoy your meal :)

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thanks

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Find the value of

$$\cot 80^{\circ} (\tan 50^{\circ} - \cot 20^{\circ}) + \cot 70^{\circ} (\tan 40^{\circ} - \cot 10^{\circ}) +$$
$$\cot 50^{\circ} (\tan 20^{\circ} + \tan 80^{\circ}) + \cot 40^{\circ} (\tan 10^{\circ} + \tan 70^{\circ}) -$$
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good luck

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its so long

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i assume its non calculator

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yea

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I'm following a trigonometry book and it explains radians with this theorem that i don't understand: "The angles at the center of a circumference and the corresponding arcs constitute two classes of directly proportional quantities"

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Yh that's rlly confusing 😭😭

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But I think what it's tryna say is

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What's the formula yk for circumference of an arc

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In terms of radians it becomes theta*r and therefore they're directly proportional quantities

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W the constant of proportionality being the radius

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But it's super duper weird and confuddling

mellow venture
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Yeah

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Do you know any other way to understand it correctly

unique rose
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To understand radians?

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The way I understand it

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Is yk how there's 360 degrees in a full rotation

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Similarly there's 2pi radians in a full rotation

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That's all radians are

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But they're rlly useful

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This redefinition

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Because the formula for the arc length of a circle in degrees is theta/360 * 2pi*r

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But in radians u won't divide by 360 you'll divide by 2pi

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And then it'll become theta*r

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Which is WAY cleaner

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What do you mean by yk?

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You know

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Ok ahah

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mellow venture
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Sorry i found another thing in the book

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After it introduces the theorem he used l/r = l'/r'

elder harbor
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,rotate

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mellow venture
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I don't understand why he said that before and then used another proportionality

elder harbor
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wdym

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do u want me to prove this?

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or

mellow venture
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Yes

elder harbor
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ok

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so let's find the arc length of both circles

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the smaller one:
${l = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}r}$

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elder harbor
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the bigger one:
${l' = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}r'}$

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elder harbor
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@mellow venture do u agree with this?

mellow venture
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Yes

elder harbor
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ok

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so let's rearrange

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${l = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}r \implies \frac{\alpha}{2\pi} = \frac{l}{r}}$ and ${l' = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}r' \implies \frac{\alpha}{2\pi} = \frac{l'}{r'}}$

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elder harbor
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since ${\frac{\alpha}{2\pi} = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi} \implies \frac{l}{r} = \frac{l'}{r'}}$

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mellow venture
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So they are directly proportional

elder harbor
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yes

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${l \propto r}$

mellow venture
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But why the theorem says that the angles and the arcs are direct proportional

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elder harbor
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u can actually see the proportionality from either equations

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${l = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}r$. Let ${k = \frac{\alpha}{2\pi}}$, so ${l = kr \implies l \propto r}$

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Hi

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Can I get a lot of help

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By chance can anyone explain a few topics of ninth grade math's to me

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Alrr it's okay then dw about it, thanks :))

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Khan academy is the best way to learn about topics, we here for specific question about exercice

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Can I have some help with this? I really don’t know what to do I forgot

shadow stump
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well we have a quadratic here

timid vector
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we do?

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how do I even get it in the form ax^2 + bx +c

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and also how do I find the value of p where it has equal roots

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<@&286206848099549185>

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timid vector
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and what does that mean

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sorry I’m just not the best with math terminology my teacher always says it very simply so 😭

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a = p^2 +11
b = -12p
c = p^2

timid vector
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ahh okay

hollow salmon
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Then it just becomes a matter of finding the values of p for which the discriminant is greater than 0.

timid vector
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so trial and error I’m guessing?

hollow salmon
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Do you know what the discriminant is?

timid vector
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b^2 - 4ac?

hollow salmon
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Yes. And when the discriminant is greater than 0, that implies two Real roots.

timid vector
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I’m concerned

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I don’t think I’m doing this right

hollow salmon
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What did you get?

timid vector
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just to clarify

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I am subbing in a b and c and solving for p?

hollow salmon
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Yes.

timid vector
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so tell me why I’m getting 47p^2 = p^3

hollow salmon
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You're mathing wrong.

timid vector
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okay what is (-12p)^2

hollow salmon
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144p^2

timid vector
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I got that

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and 4 x (p^2 + 11) is 4p^2 + 44

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right

hollow salmon
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Yes.

timid vector
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and I still have to times that by p^2

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cos that’s c

hollow salmon
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Yes.

timid vector
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nvm

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wiat a sec

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I’m so dumb

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I collected the terms 144p^2 - 4p^3 + 44p^2 to

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144p^2 + 44p^2 when it’s takeaway

hollow salmon
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That should be - 4p^4 btw.

timid vector
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oh uh

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oops

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I’m getting 25p^2 = p^4

hollow salmon
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That's one way to approach the problem. What do you want to do next?

timid vector
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OH WAIT

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can I divide both sides by p^2

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???

hollow salmon
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You could, but doing so eliminates a potential answer.

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Be careful when dividing out variables.

timid vector
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wait no I wrote the question down wrong it’s EQUAL roots not just real

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so I just need 1 value

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so I’m guessing it is just 5

hollow salmon
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So you need to find p when the discriminant is equal to zero then.

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It's not only just 5.

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You would be better served by keeping the terms on one side set equal to zero and find the factors.

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$25p^2 - p^4 = 0$

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Kookiemon

hollow salmon
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Factor the left-hand side(LHS) and find the roots.

timid vector
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can I take out a common factor like p^2 to get p^2 (25-p^)

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then p = 0 and p=5?

hollow salmon
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Yes. Well p equals +-5. This is where a condition in the problem that p > 0 comes into play eliminating two of the possible solutions.

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oh ur right

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thank u sm

hollow salmon
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yw

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i got f(2) = 4a-2b+3
lim from left side = 0
from right side = 4a-2b+3
whats the next step?

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What is the question?

mystic harbor
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Find the values of a and b that make f continuous everywhere.

quick ridge
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what are the conditions for continuity

mystic harbor
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if f(2) is = to the limit from both sides

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mystic harbor
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wait i messed up

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0/0 from left side

solar gust
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Yeah

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But you can get that off

mystic harbor
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l hopital rule?

solar gust
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Nah just factor top

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a² - b²

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X² - 2²

mystic harbor
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ok sure

solar gust
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(x-2)(x+2)

mystic harbor
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ok

solar gust
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And simplify top and bot

mystic harbor
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thats just x+2

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so left side is 4

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so after that what do i do?

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for the function to be continuous everywhere:
a) it has to be continuous in each segment. 1st segment is everywhere but 2 (but it's not defined there), the others are.
b) it has to be continous in the borders, in this case, x=2, and x=3
For it to be continuous in each border, the side limits need to be equal, and equal to the value of the function. So compute the value of the function in x=2, at x=3, and both side limits on 2 and 3

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im confused

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do i plug 2 and 3 in every function

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i am in desperate need of help with this question

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no idea what to do, no idea where to start

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this should be done with using differentiation

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torpid cedar
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Reading...

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OK

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Let's start by making a diagram

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Ping me when you have it

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actually

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nah

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prisma onyx
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okay so how can we relate the areas of the two triangles

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area ast and area abs is in ratio 1:2

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doing the sine area rule, 2xy=bc

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looking at cosine,

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wait lemme write

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ive tried doing smth with this before but idk what it would lead to

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nvm i got it

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I can't figure out how to evaluate this limit. I keep getting [0/0]. I know that it's supposed to be negative infinity from the left and positive infinity from the right, but in order for me to even get infinity I need a non-zero numerator. Does anyone know what I should do? I'm not allowed to use the sin(a)-sin(b) formula.

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1-1-1 = ?

glad tiger
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there should be a two in front of that cos^2

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question still applies tho

pulsar coyote
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Isn’t the denominator factorable

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like quadratic

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Where is the original question

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pallid canopy
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I mean original

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Not your work

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yeah, the very top one. It's a parametric equation

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Take a picture or screenshot

glad tiger
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I already did the horizontal and vertical tangents

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I'm struggling with the one where both the top and bottom are 0

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,tex .double angle

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riemann

pallid canopy
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At that step try subbing sqrt(1-cos^2(t)) for sin(t), then let u=cos(t)

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wait I have an idea

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if I multiply the top and bottom by cos(t)+1, I get

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success

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limit does not exist because left != right

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Domain of t=?

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oh right

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0 <= t <= 2pi

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wait but

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that would mean it's infinite?

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and a vertical asymptote

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because there is no negative

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I think

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It's either + or - infinity yes

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Do a sign analysis to see which

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glad tiger
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(I know I can't do this)

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but it helps

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that's 3sin(t)

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so then if t < 0 (which is can't be with the restricted domain), then it'd be -2/0^-1, but then if t > 0, then it'd be -2/0^+

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but that doesnt make sense... the derivative graph shows the opposte

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actually wait no it does because I forgot the negative sign on the bottom

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okay so upon further inspection, I made a series of errors

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what is s?

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Chain rule

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,w diff arccsc(x)

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what stops this from being “D”? (answer is C)

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D is 2,3,4

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Dont need a long answer just reviewing for my test right now

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I think graph 2 is too flat to be a double root

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It looks more like a quartic locally

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Ahh ok

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Yeah ok I just saw they're all degree 4, and all x-intercepts are shown. So that means that graph 2 has all it's x-intercepts at x=-1

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So it has multiplicity 4, not 2

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Oh thats a good way to be 100% sure

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Also

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Tried this middle question twice, got no where at all

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Do you know where / how to start?

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missing words “where c and d are intergers”

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It might help to recall that if p, q, r are all polynomials, pq is a factor of r if and only if both p and q are

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yes so factorise and solve x^2 - 3x - 4 = 0

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what numbers can you substitute into the cubic polynomial?

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yeah

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and so.......

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Ohh

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Remainder therom

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I mean polynomial long division would be super messy

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yeah

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actually there is another method based on comparing coefficients

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Itd be f(-1) or f(1)

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i always mix those ip

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Factor theorem is probably the easiest way but division and comparing coefficients will work too

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Well i just substitute in -1 for x, = 0 right

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yeah thats why i said using factor theorem is easier than division

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it is -1 for x + 1

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cause (-1) + 1 = 0

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Think i messed up somewhere

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cuz then i got 2d = 0

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-1 - 6 - c + d = 0
-7 + d = c

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Oh

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Or after i substitute the -1

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wait you didn't use x - 4 yet?

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Didnt touch it

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you also have f(4) = 0 remember

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you need that

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so after i get this, can i just substitute back into the original?

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hiii can i send pictures?

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send pictures not files we have to download

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ok

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is that good? :)))

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okay, so if we increase each side by the same amount, say x

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can you come up with an expression for the volume of the new box?

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so what are the new sides?

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…idk that’s why i’m asking for help sorry

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i didn’t exactly learn this

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5

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what does x equal

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if it’s 2 then the answer is 6 prob

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Can’t you just use algebra to figure it out?

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Or do you need a graphical solution

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