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odd mauve
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@random horizon gonna ping so you know

dapper kraken
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remember x=sqrt(2025-r^2)

odd mauve
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yh

odd mauve
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thats why i did

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^0.5

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stockholm

odd mauve
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ik how to solve it

dapper kraken
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try doing it interms of x instead of r

odd mauve
random horizon
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ya i will help u

odd mauve
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i dont need it tho

odd mauve
random horizon
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why

odd mauve
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it will be mcuh faster?

random horizon
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just a minute

dapper kraken
odd mauve
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or whatever

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it was

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instead of x?

random horizon
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V=1/3pir^2*x

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x=sqt(45^2-r^2)=sqrt(2025-r^2)

dapper kraken
random horizon
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V=1/3pir^2sqrt(2025-r^2)

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right?

odd mauve
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should it be at the top or am i tripping

random horizon
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sorry

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pir means 3.141592

odd mauve
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ok then what do i do after that

odd mauve
random horizon
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if r= 25cm ,max volume V=1/33.1425^2*sqrt(2025-25^2)

odd mauve
random horizon
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please another problem

odd mauve
random horizon
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complex problem

odd mauve
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i just want the derevative

random horizon
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i know

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sorry where r u from?

odd mauve
random horizon
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yaaa wonderful

odd mauve
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bro cmon i got a test

random horizon
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what do u doing now?

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👍

odd mauve
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man

random horizon
wheat bolt
random horizon
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are u man or woman?

odd mauve
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why u asking all these questions for

rough forge
odd mauve
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if ur smart

random horizon
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I want to be close to you.

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I am freelancer and I would be able to help u with my skill.

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rough forge
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@odd mauve Has your question been resolved?

odd mauve
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so sigma

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smoky cairn
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I would like to design a neural network that is the "parameterized" operator of a commutative monoid. I'm not 100% sure about the terminology, so I'll explain what I want:

I have a set of vectors of cardinality n and would like to reduce it to a single vector with a time complexity linear in n. I want that reduction process to be invariant to permutations of the set, and to be able to be done "online" / in a streaming fashion (meaning I would not have the entire set available at a given time but only the current aggregated vector and the "latest" vector).
Some example of operators that would fit are element-wise addition, maximum and mean. For those familiar with transformers, attention would not work as it has a n^2 time complexity. However, I don't know which operator is best for a given problem and would therefore like the neural network to learn one based on the data and the objective of the optimization process.

When it comes to making the operator commutative, one way would be to have the output of the system be o(x,y) = (f(x,y) + f(y,x)) / 2 with f being the learned operator (the actual neural network). That is however undesirable as we are doing twice the amount of computation (imagine the network ends up just being the addition, that would be a waste of compute).
As for associativity, I don't see a better way to get it than with some regularization on the loss we're optimizing against, and that would at best give me an approximately associative operator which is not what I want.

I don't have a precise question, but I would like any information / pointers that would help me think about this problem in the right way

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jade moss
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is there a faster way to solve instead of plugging in and checking like my professor said

fossil jewel
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plug and check every real between 0 and 2pi, thats what i always do

jade moss
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damn it

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i would think there is a quicker and more efficent way

robust kraken
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let $\theta$ be this angle i think i’ll do $tan(\theta)=\sqrt{3}=\frac{\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}}{\frac{1}{2}}$ so this angle is pi/3

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uh wait

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robust kraken
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but idk if it’s correct

compact ridge
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so applying inverse tan to both sides

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$\text{1st quadrant angle} = \tan^{-1} (\text{positive number})$

jolly parrotBOT
compact ridge
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you should know how to solve tan(x) = sqrt(3) then

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grave parcel
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can i get help please

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grave parcel
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its calculator assumed, casio classpad is allowed

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idk how to get started

compact ridge
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say if I have y = 2 and y = 5, what's the vertical distance between?

grave parcel
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3??

compact ridge
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yep

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so now you have y = f(x) and y = g(x)

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and also you know that g(x) is entirely above f(x), g(x) > f(x) for all real x

grave parcel
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do we find tp

compact ridge
grave parcel
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of ramp walkway

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and supporting cable

compact ridge
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the turning point would give you the minimum distance

compact ridge
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like before you did 5 - 2 = 3 right

grave parcel
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yes

compact ridge
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so now from that, what's the right function to minimise

grave parcel
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wdym??

compact ridge
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you're not minimising f(x) alone

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you're also not minimising g(x) alone

grave parcel
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sorry im abit confused

grave parcel
compact ridge
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first function was y = 2, second function was y = 5

grave parcel
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is the 5 and 2 random numbers??

compact ridge
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but it's easier to think of numbers first

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then carry over the same logic into functions

grave parcel
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so do we do ramp walkway - supporting cable

compact ridge
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supporting cable - ramp walkway

grave parcel
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oh yeah

compact ridge
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yeah and then find the vertex and then sub the x-coordinate in to find y

grave parcel
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wait so how do i first start off??

rain vessel
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Abs(Y1-Y2), find the min of this function

compact ridge
grave parcel
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yeah

compact ridge
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literally, $(0.003x^2 - 0.186x + 25.18) - (-0.001x^2 + 0.062x + 18.04)$

grave parcel
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i see

jolly parrotBOT
grave parcel
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@compact ridge can i ask a question rq

grave parcel
compact ridge
compact ridge
grave parcel
compact ridge
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yeah

grave parcel
compact ridge
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usually a lot of maths at this level is only scientific calculator allowed

compact ridge
compact ridge
grave parcel
compact ridge
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you're lucky

grave parcel
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ok i graphed it

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how do i find vertex

compact ridge
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so go look up a YT tutorial

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there should definitely be a menu item for extrema or something

grave parcel
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wait so am i finding the vertical distance??

compact ridge
compact ridge
grave parcel
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then that’s all??

compact ridge
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yep

grave parcel
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ty

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compact ridge
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a lot of maths problems are use your brain / learn this new technique

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then algebra bash, or GDC bash

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i.e getting to the algebra means you've done the hard part

compact ridge
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no worries again mate

grave parcel
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.reopen

pearl pondBOT
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grave parcel
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i. got (18.7, 3.90116)

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so vertical distance would be 3.90116 right??

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is that correct

compact ridge
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should be 3.296, which rounds to 3.30 to 2 dp

grave parcel
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ahhh

compact ridge
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plot and then click on the vertex

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you can check it yourself! Desmos is an easier way to do the same things as on your GDC

grave parcel
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i did 0.004x^2 - 0.248x + 7.14

grave parcel
compact ridge
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I don't think I typed it wrong, which is also another thing

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"why is Desmos giving me the wrong answer!??"

compact ridge
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if you really try x = -b/(2a) for the vertex Desmos tells me it gives the same

grave parcel
compact ridge
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calculator error somehow, idk

grave parcel
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sigh

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anyway

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the next question says

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what is the closest distance that the ramp walkway is to the water surface

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there would be 2 answers ye

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we need to find the x dont we??

compact ridge
grave parcel
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ty dude

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hasty edge
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Elaborate.

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You want to expand this, or what exactly?

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I'm asking because I'm confused on what exactly you're trying to do with the function.

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x<-1/4, then.

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🤨

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How did you get that?

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Ah well

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To answer your question, yes you take the more restrictive inequality

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1+4x

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I cannot tell

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grave parcel
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grave parcel
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can i get help please i dont know how to start

sharp smelt
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Define turning point

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Also, this isn't a test, is it?

grave parcel
grave parcel
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basically

sharp smelt
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Do you know calculus?

grave parcel
naive pond
grave parcel
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ye i definitely dont need calculus

sharp smelt
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but not needed

grave parcel
naive pond
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Just use the formula $\frac{-b}{2a}$

jolly parrotBOT
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747244351179980930

naive pond
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That will give you the x value of the turning point

sharp smelt
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yeah, and that is obtained using calc, is it not?

hasty edge
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Well that's a bit misleading 💀 (relative to the question)

grave parcel
naive pond
hasty edge
grave parcel
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guys one at a time

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who is helping me??

naive pond
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You can find it through the midpoint of the roots, setting the derivative to 0, using the vertex form and plugging in values from standard form

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But anyways yeah

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Uhh so this problem is different actually

grave parcel
naive pond
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I didn’t read it all nvm

grave parcel
naive pond
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So, the “turning point” in this scenario is going to be in the middle of the two roots of the equation

fierce sky
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$$\frac{\left(a+b\right)}{2}=3,
-4 = 3^{2}-3\left(a+b\right)+ab$$

naive pond
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So, we know that 3 is the midpoint of the line formed by the two roots

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grave parcel
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cause it’s the line of symmetry

grave parcel
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nvm

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what do we do next??

naive pond
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You can use the vertex form of a quadratic to solve this actually

grave parcel
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yes, but they want it in factored form i think

naive pond
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We know the vertex and the “a” value

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And from there we can set it equal to 0

grave parcel
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a(x-3) - 4

naive pond
grave parcel
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how do we know a =1??

naive pond
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If you multiply this out, you will get an x^2 term with a coefficient of 1

grave parcel
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ah gotchu

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so now do i find the zeros??

naive pond
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Set $(x-3)^2-4$ equal to 0

jolly parrotBOT
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747244351179980930

grave parcel
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yes

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x = 5

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or

naive pond
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Because that will give you the roots of the equation

grave parcel
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x = 1

naive pond
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Exactly

grave parcel
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oh shoot that easy

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wait that’s wrong i think

naive pond
grave parcel
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nvm its correct

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a and b can be either 1 or 5

naive pond
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Wait nvm

grave parcel
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cause it doesn’t state if b or a is bigger

naive pond
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I forgot it’s (x-a)(x-b) instead of (x+a)(x+b)

grave parcel
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answer will still be 5 and 1

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since (x-5)(x-1)
= x-5 = 0
x-1 = 0

x=5
x=1

naive pond
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And by the communitive property of multiplication $(x-5)(x-1)=(x-1)(x-5)$

jolly parrotBOT
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747244351179980930

grave parcel
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what’s this

naive pond
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Basically if you multiply two numbers together, you can flip them around and their product will be the same

naive pond
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$a\cdot b=b \cdot a$

jolly parrotBOT
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747244351179980930

naive pond
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But yeah that should be the right answer

grave parcel
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ty dude

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i appreciate it

naive pond
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Yw

grave parcel
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idk why we would have needed calculus

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sharp smelt
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sharp smelt
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To prove it's conservative, I have to prove it's the gradient of some continuous function

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so

inland ivy
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just take the integral of both pieces I'd imagine

sharp smelt
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$f(x,y) = \begin{cases} yx & (x,y) \in R \ x^2 & (x,y) \in L \end{cases}$

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does that work

inland ivy
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try taking the gradient

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do you retrieve F?

sharp smelt
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I did

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oops

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This gives (x,y) in R

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What a wonderful world !

sharp smelt
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Does this work?

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@sharp smelt Has your question been resolved?

sharp smelt
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Can I please have my answer verified

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lilac jackal
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.reopen

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lilac jackal
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@sharp smelt yes

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tbh u can check ur own work by gradient

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its just like differentiating in calc1 to check integral results

sharp smelt
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fair

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thanks

lilac jackal
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np

sharp smelt
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I'll close this now

lilac jackal
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.close

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wise burrow
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help im bad at trigonometry

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toxic lichen
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interesting problem...

lilac jackal
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IVP with 7 initial conditions FujiStare

crude nexus
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Bruh

toxic lichen
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i have what i believe to be a pretty elegant but also kinda complicated solution

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well

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conceptually complicated

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given it involves a good deal of linalg...

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toxic lichen
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ok so in case anyone's interested in what im cooking, ive sorta reduced this problem to finding the -7th power of a particular 3x3 complex matrix that turns out to be upper triangular and with unit diagonal

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im actually cooking

fierce sky
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i integrated it 7 times

toxic lichen
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ain't nobody got time for that

vagrant briar
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i think a pattern should emerge after integrating a few times right?

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then we can figure out f(x)

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.reopen

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toxic lichen
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hold on i am thoroughly nerdsniped by this shit

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im not gonna dump the answer out

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but istg i am almost there

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oh i am way more cooked than i realized

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💀

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i was inverting the wrong fucking matrix

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dear lord

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toxic lichen
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dear lord ok

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this was TOUGH

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but i think i finally fucking got it

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after like 2+ pages of matrix arithmetic

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but honestly? what i did beats having to do 7 integrations by a LONG shot.

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little spear
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is there a way to turn this into an integral? i wanna check if the limit exists

little spear
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or if you have a better way to find if the limit exists then please enlighten me

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toxic lichen
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ok so like

lilac jackal
jolly parrotBOT
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ロケットジャンプ

toxic lichen
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if you squint hard enough

little spear
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not allowed

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no approximation

toxic lichen
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the general term of the sum looks like 1/n^2

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so you can try and look at the difference between the actual general term and 1/n^2

lilac jackal
toxic lichen
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i cooked something

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actually it is even simpler

little spear
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hang on i cant know if the sum goes to a finite value we didnt learn that

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well we did we didnt learn which finite vlaue

lilac jackal
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maybe just do a change of var and integral comparison

toxic lichen
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no im suggesting purely algebraic machinations

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no integration at all even

little spear
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so like i can do all the convergence tests

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i just cant say "this behaves like this"

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or cant i

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hmm its harder but not impossible if i do it via the limit comparison test

lilac jackal
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id wait for anns thing

toxic lichen
lilac jackal
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but i need to die now. i have to wake up early

little spear
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little spear
toxic lichen
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brackets

little spear
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also how did n^2 become n^4

toxic lichen
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but also wdym

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n is constant wrt k

little spear
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oh

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true

hazy pilot
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btw, since this is a limit, you can only split it into 2 terms if they converge

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both converge

toxic lichen
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we are adding up n^2 terms all of which equal n^2/(n^4+sqrt(n))

toxic lichen
little spear
toxic lichen
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finite summations etc

little spear
toxic lichen
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$\sum_{k=1}^{420} 69 = 420\cdot 69$

jolly parrotBOT
little spear
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that i do understand

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OH

toxic lichen
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$\sum_{k=1}^n n = n^2$

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little spear
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yes yes yes

toxic lichen
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$\sum_{k=1}^n f(n) = nf(n)$

jolly parrotBOT
toxic lichen
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yaeh

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thats the idea here

little spear
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ok we didnt learn this but its not hard. thanks !

toxic lichen
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do you need me to also explain how to handle the other sum

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cause i cooked something up for that as well

little spear
toxic lichen
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it is not

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nowhere near a geometric series

little spear
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wait

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i didnt say that

toxic lichen
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if it were (number)^k inside the sum then yes, but it's k^(number) instead -- very different

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anyway

little spear
little spear
# toxic lichen anyway

can we say that the value of a sum is the same as the value of an integral of the function of the series in that sum

toxic lichen
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mmmmmmmm

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what.

little spear
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wait actually

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how do we evalue the k one

toxic lichen
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i have no idea what you tried to ask there genuinely

little spear
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yeah ignore that

hazy pilot
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answer is 1

toxic lichen
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i just showed how i squeezed a riemann sum out of $\frac{1}{n^4+\sqrt{n}} \sum_{k=1}^{n^2} \sqrt{k}$

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toxic lichen
little spear
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im processing it

little spear
toxic lichen
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(b-a)/n^2 but yes

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im integrating from 0 to 1

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1/n^2 is the subinterval width

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and x_k = k/n^2

little spear
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if so, shouldnt it be n^4? so that sqrt(n^4) = n^2 ? then we have dx = b-a/n^2?

toxic lichen
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no, the subinterval width appears outside the function -- and i put it outside the summation entirely

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$\int_0^1 g(x) \dd{x} = \lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{1}{n^2} \sum_{k=1}^{n^2} g\paren{\frac{k}{n^2}}$

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toxic lichen
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g(x) = sqrt(x) in this case

little spear
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oh

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i see what you mean. this wasnt covered in depth in lectures nor is it relevant for the exams but doesnt hurt to know 😂

thank you and sorry if i BSed too much 🙏🏻

toxic lichen
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i mean this is just riemann sums

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only you've got n^2 subdivisions instead of n, which is a bit of a complicating factor but not impossible to handle

little spear
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we did go over them but we didnt manipulate them or anything, we just had them quickly skimmed so that we know the definition of an integral

toxic lichen
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...right

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yeah i mean the stuff i cooked up is like

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i wanna say surgically precise

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but maybe thats not the best way to describe it

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but it did take some know-how for me to find this solution

hazy pilot
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what is the solution then?

toxic lichen
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well i can repost the same thing that i did but in full if you and/or @little spear want it

hazy pilot
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I mean, what is the limit equal to? That is what I was interested in 😅

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well the first summation goes to 1 and the second goes to 0

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yeah so it is equal to 1

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yes

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great then my solution was also correct, I was a bit stressed XD

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the reason i thisnt'd you earlier is because it was too early to share that

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My apologies

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i found an official solution

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interesting

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they went an entirely different route

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its the tringineer

little spear
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yeah this is calculus 1 and were engineers haha

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tringineer?

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trinity

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hello

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are u ib

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or is it like iib

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idk how engineering works

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wait lets move to general

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ok

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how do this

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so you know that y=a(x-2)^2 + 1 is parabola C, yes?

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You can identify the graphs with calculating their turning points

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is $0 \neq 1$ in integral domains a requirement? i cant find it mentioned in wikipedia

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can you elaborate?

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Is zero ring an integral domain

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# pulsar stump is $0 \neq 1$ in integral domains a requirement? i cant find it mentioned in wik...
0*a = 1*a, 1 is the multiplicative identity, so 0*a = a

because an integral domain is a ring, a*(b+c) = a*b + a*c
letting c=0, a be non-zero, and b be the inverse of a
a*(b+0) = a*b + a*0
0 is the additive identity, so on the LHS, a*(b+0) = a*b = 1
but on the RHS, it's 1 + a
so 1 = 1+a
but 1 = 0, so 1 = 1+a = 0+a = a
so 1 = 0 = a, which contradicts that a is non zero```

I just looked up the definition of integral domains, so someone else correct me please
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Let $a_0, a_1, a_2\ldots$ be the sequence defined by $a_0=\frac{2025}{9999}$ and $a_n=a_{n-1}+9\qty{a_{n-1}}$ for integers $n\ge 1$, where $\qty{x}=x-\floor{x}$. What is the last digit of $\floor{a_{2025}}$?

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I have no clue

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Like absolutely zero clue

karmic forge
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First start with the recurrence relation

cobalt hinge
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How so?

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A hint you would find useful

$a{n-1} = \floor{a{n-1}} + \qty{a{n-1}}$

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WizzyGeek

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Yah I have no idea how to typeset

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Substitute that in the recurrence relation

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The hints already said that but I'm confused

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$a_n=\floor{a_{n-1}}+10\qty{a_{n-1}}$, like this?

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Yep

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Oh shit

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It's much easier now

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So that's where I messed up

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What am I doing wrong?

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i'm having trouble following what you're doing in general

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you have t = x^3 + 1 which is fine, but why are you solving for x after?

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so how do I write x^2

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I have to use t

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right?

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perhaps it would help if you instead had it arranged as x^2 dx = 1/3 dt

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x^2 dx is already present in your starting integral

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oh

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yeah, that makes sense

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god this is frustrating, I am okayish at math but these integrals are super hard just because I'm bad at noticing things like this...

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valid

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Help

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Is my little simple la done right I never took LA course so maybe there are inconsistencies in notion or not rigorous

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seems good to me MenheraSalute1

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wouldnt hurt to actually write out what Lbeta1 etc are

hoary nacelle
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This is probably exponentially easier than that torturing analysis

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hoary nacelle
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The basic algebra seems to be different set and discussion of preserved structures and I don’t know what it is all about

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algebra (abstract algebra) is generally very abstract and undertaken after linear algebra. It is conserned with much more general spaces than vector spaces, so the theory can get pretty messy

hoary nacelle
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I bought a book and it discusses different homomorphism and weird lemma it looks fun but I feel my foundation isn’t good enough for it

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no

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categories are even more abstract and can generally not be contained in sets

hoary nacelle
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With what knowledge I can understand this book, it’s called algebra chapter 0

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I bought it already and it looks actually down to earth I wonder if I may study it

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you can probably tackle it head on

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everything you need to know is contained in the book

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it will just be difficult

hoary nacelle
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I will try it, I thought it’s more of general algebra.. I found it fun 🥰

tardy bay
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look up some guide for it

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With time and patience, I have always been the dumb one at class but I try hard so🥰🥰 as long as I am patient enough will be fine 🥰

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Hopefully

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it's not structured in an order i would recommend learning algebra

hoary nacelle
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Should I know a bit of other things?

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I know a bit of field bcs of linear algebra

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for example, learning about universal objects before groups seems very strange to me

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usually one picks up several examples from abstract algebra which help make sense of category theory

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learning category theory first is like studying organic chemistry to bake a cake

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the canonical introduction to algebra is the textbook by dummit and foote

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it gives a much more natural, in my mind, introduction to the field

hoary nacelle
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Group theory, is it very hard what material should I use it always sound too fancy too me :😭

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either way it will likely take years to learn the book you have

hoary nacelle
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I got dedication

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group theory is as hard as you make it

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it's a very general field. there is currently active research in group theory

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however

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the group theory that is typically included in a undergrad course is not too difficult

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it's a bit weird and unfamiliar, but not too difficult

hoary nacelle
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Wow that sounds super exciting though I am studying economics and I’m pretty sure it’s not in my curriculum but I will try to enroll one as minor next year just like analysis

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It had been so enlightening than boring study I currently have

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Group theory I can just learn hands on right?

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yes

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but I wouldn't use the book you sent me

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the chapter 0 one

hoary nacelle
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The book I got it for a discount, since I got a bit too addicted to learn different analysis for Folland’s book. And I felt I need to engulf gaps for everything

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So I got it

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i would also be surprised if you learn group theory in economics

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ok

hoary nacelle
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Yes my study is super super boring

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Like i actually feel like i hate it

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keep in mind that that book seems closer to being a useful book to look stuff up in rather than learning from

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consider switchin major, maybe? I am personally studying applied mathematics in finance which is fun and has advanced math

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and economics

hoary nacelle
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I am actually thinking of it, since I then need to prepare a lot of different subjects probably but since most of students pick courses of their wishes it’s gonna be fine

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I am kinda addicted to different topology introduced in introductory analysis and but I am not sure though I heard math is very hard

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I mean I only study one thing I am good at it, it is probably gonna be way worse than now if I compete with those who genuinely study mathematics

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And many self doubt

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i went from engineering mathematics to pure mathematics

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it was difficult, but doable

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if you put your mind to it, it wont be that bad

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I have been thinking this as well which had been the reason I started to do linear algebra self study, alongside my preparation for comb of intro an analysis and advanced analysis Folland’s

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I feel like if I do well with both I definitely switch

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I feel Econ is just weird

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follow your heart my guy

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I hope it won’t be that awful though

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you can't stop yourself from doing something just because it's hard. where would it lead us if we only did easy things?

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To be honest I was quite of that type of person showing off, I told my friend that I would be passing a gradual course of analysis

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And I had been preparing analysis since December lasy year

hoary nacelle
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And that is precisely the reason I felt addicted to mathematics

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Analysis has been so addictive

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Like so addictive

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And I had been quite irritated and upset since the book of follands was so abstract but now I felt it is not like excruciatingly hard but maybe potentially in the spring next year I can do it

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However I do find linear algebra almost impressively straightforward and easy though

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Like the proof of subspaces and linear transformation, inner product spaces

rough forge
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i think you will love it

hoary nacelle
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Though some semi positive defined matrix is a bit abstract

hoary nacelle
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And set theory is also fun, naive set theory had been so fun to read

tardy bay
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Linear algebra is generally intuitive and ”nice”

hoary nacelle
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Yes that is very very true

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Though self study made thing hard but in general it had been hard

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If I could genuinely switch majors then I would be very happy that I could dump this study Econ study

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hi guys, are the following correct?

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thats all thanks

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are the rest?

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For the love of God, can someone tell me if I am just dumb, or if he is

This is on a TikTok of a parent and child, who both ended up coming out as trans. For variables, the exact reasons why it happens are unknown, so all we have to calculate probability is the fact that 0.6% of the population is transgender

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Actually I think I am the dumb one

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I mean either way my argument stands that it's a statistically improbability, not a statistical impossibility. We were both just dumb

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first world ahh problem

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real

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My dumba** did 0.6x0.6 instead of 0.006x0.006

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ye

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I would say he was wrong, I was right and wrong

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Right about it being a statistical improbability, wrong about the exact probability

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I'm definitely less wrong than him

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I just wanted to check in to see if i set this problem up correctly. calculus 2 - finding volume using integration. (question b)

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I get the concept but setting up the integral is still confusing

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Why can you just choose values for x to solve the simultaneous

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yk how r=a+kb works yeah

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Well i believe i do

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But am i missing something

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R=a+kb is jist gen form pf a line

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Tbh i see where your getting at ngl

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Okay thanks i get it its just a point on a line and u can choose ig

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the red part is the line

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a1 and a2 are two starting vectors

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b is the direction ratio, by which you can get other points on the line after multiplying by a factor of k and adding to original vector

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Think i understand it but not sure what showing me a line to convey the line in vector form is gonna help w

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Thanks though. I kinda had a understanding of why you can choose

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I just thought the line can span a whole 3D plane ajd each x value has a unique y and z value

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Idk im so use to elimination or substitution to solve

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Thats why

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i see

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Hi everybody, does anybody know natural deduction system in logic? It's something like the picture which I've attached

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Thanks @quartz rampart

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covert wolf
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Wait twas my logic the correct logic

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im pretty sure you can read that this is occupied

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go to the ones that are available basically

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its correct

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How does it extend to planes

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Like when considering planes ive seej the same done

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Tbf i thibk It was about two planes intercepting

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Whcjh would form a line

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Okay tysm

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I dont understand this question at all, like what would the first step be?

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find some facts about the angles inside a parallelogram and use that to set up an equation

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let's say that one angle x is the larger angle and the the other angle is 1/4x

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this means that 2x+1/2x is = 360

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the smaller angle is 36 degrees and the larger angle is 144 degrees

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i need help w solving this

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Use $\tan^2(x) + 1 = sec^2(x)$ and then it'll split into two integrals you can solve with reduction formula for sec.

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how would i solve this

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isolate y or x

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can you

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ok let's look at the second equation

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$x - 2y = 11$

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clair //

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how would you isolate x?

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so that only x is on the left side?

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add 2y

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yes gj

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so x=11+2y

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wait

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😭 yw

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um

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so i kinda did it wrong

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i did it to y

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Ok

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wait

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how

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So uhhh

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Alr so let’s talk about the first issue

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So x = 11 + 2y is correct

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okay

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Then you write -7(11 + 2y) - 2y = -13

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Which is right

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Take some time here

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okay

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no

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You sure?

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no

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ah shit

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Yea

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-7(11+2y)=-13

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Uhh

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what

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That's not

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What we meant

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um

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-7(11+2y)=-77-14y

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You should have expanded it like this

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Let’s go back to -7(11 + 2y) - 2y = -13

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WAIT

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Now focus on -7(11 + 2y)

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-7(11+2y)-2y=-13

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What does that expand to?

livid karma
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Alright so now we have -77 - 14y - 2y = -13

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How can we simplify this further?

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-14y-2y=-13+77

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Yep

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Let’s keep going

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-16y=90

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Yep

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-5.625

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!

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And if we isolate y, we get y =?

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That’s that

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but

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You can close the channel if you don’t need anymore help

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thats the sol

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Ummmm 💀💀💀

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according yo the answer key

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thats the solution

gaunt surge
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Yo am I ass?

livid karma
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yes

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yo its like 1am

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livid karma
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i am not passing ts shit

pearl pondBOT
livid karma
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WHAT

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NO

frail temple
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😭😭

livid karma
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<@&286206848099549185>

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blissful crown
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finally god an easy question

livid karma
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small number math

gaunt surge
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I failed basic pre algebra 😭😭😭

blissful crown
gaunt surge
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I got the wrong answer helping him holyyyy

livid karma
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😭🙏

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soo uh

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helper

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work your magic

blissful crown
livid karma
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so

gaunt surge
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I genuinely don’t know what I did wrong I might be autistic

livid karma
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probability hater

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got me the wrong answer

gaunt surge
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Somehow

livid karma
blissful crown
gaunt surge
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Check our conversation and see what I did wrong

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Solve for the point of intersection

livid karma
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^^

gaunt surge
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YO

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I found the mistake

livid karma
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YOO

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what

blissful crown
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i lagged out

blissful crown
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with the question

gaunt surge
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Im sped how did i miss that

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I forgot basic addition lol

blissful crown
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is it a system?

gaunt surge
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Yes

livid karma
blissful crown
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ok whats the system

livid karma
blissful crown
livid karma
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wait

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no way i missed that

livid karma
gaunt surge
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Oh elimination??

livid karma
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but ky teacher will probably tske off points if the question asks for a specific way

livid karma
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this question was substiton

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same shit

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however you spell it

gaunt surge
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Bro why 💀

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The question is literally set up for elimination

livid karma
gaunt surge
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The coefficients for y are the same who would ask for substitution

livid bolt
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substituion is ezierr

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wait actually in there elimination is easier

livid karma
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i cant use mu graphing calculator either cause my teacher caught me and said quote “i will take your geometry honors rec if you use it on our next test”

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yeah

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thank you guys

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appreciate

blissful crown
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flip it

livid karma
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thank you guys

blissful crown
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chromebook camera sucks balls

livid karma
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use phone

blissful crown
livid karma
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LMAO

blissful crown
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knockoff ipod*********

livid karma
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im crying

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and the factions hub

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holy

blissful crown
livid karma
blissful crown
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so i never really got into it

livid karma
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got it

blissful crown
livid karma
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.close

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blissful crown
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😿

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proper flare
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What is the coefficient of ab^(n-1) in the expansion of (a+b)^n?

wet osprey
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use binomial theorem

proper flare
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Okay.

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The question PROIBITS the use of any theorem.

tropic saddle
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sigh

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ok then lets rederive the binomial theorem

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(a+b)^n is (a+b)(a+b)(a+b)...(a+b), yes?

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if you multiply it out you have to either choose an a or b for each pair

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in your end result you want to get ab^(n-1), so you have to choose 1 a and n-1 b's

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how many options are there for that

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toxic lichen
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@proper flare expanding the product of n copies of (a+b), prior to collection of like terms, you will have one term for each possible choice of which letter to take from each parenthesis

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.reopen

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toxic lichen
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to illustrate my point with n=4, you will get:

(a+b)(a+b)(a+b)(a+b) =
aaaa + aaab + aaba + aabb

  • abaa + abab + abba + abbb
  • baaa + baab + baba + babb
  • bbaa + bbab + bbba + bbbb
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@proper flare do you understand and accept this idea?

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3) I understand this idea, but refuse to apply it for other reasons. 

4) I understand and accept this. 

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brisk pike
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Taking a break from RA and trigo

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heres the link of the post

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i was thinking a contour |z| = R with R to infinity

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my rationality, from the MSE post: You have poles at ±ki and p=q for the - choice and p=-q for the + choice

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but OP suggests that because of the power

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i dont have poles at +/- ki but instead branch cuts (and also that the powers makes them think that maybe contour integration isnt a nice approach)

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can anyone confirm whos correct?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Okay so apparently the weird k is a real number between 0 and 1/4 :\

toxic lichen
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it's not "weird k", it's Greek kappa

brisk pike
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ah new letter for me

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welp obviously its a branch cut then

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fringe ice
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I don’t understand how Suvat works when a particle has a velocity that is going up. It’s confusing because the particle is dropped (like in the question)

calm wing
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initially the particle is actually going up due to the velocity you have

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only later the acceleration downwards becomes big enough to make it go down instead

fringe ice
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Ohhhh ok!

fringe ice
calm wing
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yes

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it works regardless of direction as long as you stay consistent with signs (which direction is + and which is -)

fringe ice
calm wing
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yep!

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that's the cool part about it

fringe ice
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Wow that’s so cool but confusing