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Was that not for ln
[ \vec{F} \cdot \psi'(t) = -\sin t \ln (5+\sin^2 t) + 5\cos^2 t +\frac{6\sin t \cos^2 t} {5 + \sin^2 t} + \frac{ 8\sin^3 t \cos^2 t - 8\sin t\cos^4 t}{ 5 + \sin^2 t} ]
shsgd
😭
Ohh
look
We are having
\begin{align*} \int_{\psi} &-\sin(t)\ln(5+\sin^2(t))
\ & + 5\cos^2(t) + \frac{6\sin(t)\cos^2(t)}{5 + \sin^2t}
\ & + \frac{-8\sin(t)\cos^2(t)\cdot \left ( \cos^2(t) - \sin^2(t) \right )}{5 + \sin^2(t)} : \dd t
\end{align*}
𝔸dωn𝓲²s
[ \vec{F} \cdot \psi'(t) = -\sin t \ln (5+\sin^2 t) + \frac {25\cos^2 t + 5\cos^2 t\sin^2 t + 6\sin t \cos^2 t + 8\sin^3 t \cos^2 t - 8\sin t\cos^4 t}{ 5 + \sin^2 t} ]
shsgd
do you have already a bachelors degree in math?
It's a Relativity exam, and my lecturer refuses to release past paper solutions so I don't know if i'm doing questions right or not
I tried, nobody replies
wolfram calculated 15.708
,w Integrate[(-sin(t)ln(5+sin(t)^2) + 5cos(t)^2+6sin(t)cos(t)^2/(5+sin(t)^2)-8sin(t)cos(t)^2(cos(t)^2-sin(t)^2)/(5+sin(t)^2)),{t,0,2pi}]
That can’t be right
,w dot { ln(5 + sin^2 t), 5cos t + (6sin t cos t / (5+sin^2 t)), (2cos t (cos^2 t - sin^2 t) / (5+sin^2 t))} {-sin t, cos t, -4sin t cos t}
,w integrate [-sin t ln(sin^2 t + 5) - {8sin t cos^2 t ( cos^2 t - sin^2 t ) / {sin^2 t + 5}} + cos t (5cost + {6sin t cos t / {sin^2t + 5}}), {t,0,2pi}]
yea
that has to be the answer
Why is it wrong yummy
That’s weird
And how the hell you gonna evaluate that
We have never gotten a decimal number before
haha
On these questions
I think that's on purpose
to have at least a direction whether it's right or wrong probably
He always does it so that we can calculate it by hand
what is F again?
Haha
,w simplify 5x + (6xy / ( 4+3y^2 + z^2) )
that doesn't help much
No
yeah
i see the problem
z^2 would be (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2, so the inside of ln doesn't simplify the same way
,w simplify 4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2
,w integrate [-sin t ln(4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2) - {8sin t cos^2 t ( cos^2 t - sin^2 t ) / {4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2}} + cos t (5cost + {6sin t cos t / {4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2}}), {t,0,2pi}]
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,w integrate [-sin t ln( 4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2 ) - (8sin t cos^2 t ( cos^2 t - sin^2 t ) / (4 + 3sin^2 t + (cos^2 t - sin^2 t)^2)) + cos t (5cost + {6sin t cos t / {sin^2t + 5}}), {t,0,2pi}]

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why doesn't wolfram understand that
maybe wolfram is depressed
if you click on the link
it says it doesnt find a result
@gleaming moss
I am so done with this question
1.34??
that's one hell of a misinterpretation
It’s like me
nuh uh
Yuh hu
there must be some clever sub to do
yeah
yeahn't
Maybe the surface way wasnt bad after all but we did some mistake
I can imagine that the cross product of gradient and F would resolve
to something easy
because of taking the partials
🚬
yeah maybe
math was never for us
i will have a look at this later ||generally this type of thing is what i love but not at home rn|| but in general when i doubt in this type of this
since sometimes it can be hard to see the patter
wierstass sub
Okay thank you
and deal with polinomuials
Yeah
imma call them I_1 + I_2 + I_3 + I_4
I_2 is trivial
pick your fave method and use it
for I_1 use sin(t) = u
then you get int u ln(5 + u^2) / sqrt(1-u^2)
give me a sec
[ \int_0^{2\pi} -\sin (t) \ln (8 - 7\cos^2 (t) + 4\cos^4 (t)) \dd t ]
[ + \int_0^{2\pi} 5\cos^2 t + \frac{6\sin (t) \cos^2 (t)}{8 - 7\cos^2 (t) + 4\cos^4 (t)} \dd t ]
[ + \int_0^{2\pi} \frac{8\sin^3 (t) \cos^2 (t) - 8 \sin (t) \cos^4 (t)} { 8 - 7\cos^2 (t) + 4\cos^4 (t)} \dd t ]
imma ignore the cos^2(t) integral
shsgd
I'm gonna double check that these are the correct integrals, but they should be
hang on
ok
should i continue with the sol?
yes I would like to see it
yea
ok
so first cos(t) = x
then you get int ln(8-7x^2 + 4x^4)
then do by parts
which gives you x ln(8-7x^2 + 4x^4) - int ( x (4x^3 - 14x )/(x^4 - 7x^2 + 8)
only dealing with the integral now
first factor out a 2 from the numerator
fuck
i dropped a 4
very early on
one min
ping me when you finish sol
ok gimme two min
ill just write up the final answer here
steps would take a while to get through
with your paremetrization the normal vector should be 0
which param
psi
$$ x\cdot(\ln(4x^4-7x^2+8)-4)+$$
$$\frac{\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}+7}(\ln(x\cdot(2x+\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}+7})+2^\frac{3}{2})-\ln(x\cdot(2x-\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}+7})+2^\frac{3}{2}))+2\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}-7}(\arctan(\frac{4x+\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}+7}}{\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}-7}})+\arctan(\frac{4x-\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}+7}}{\sqrt{2^\frac{7}{2}-7}}\right))}{4}$$
for I_1
you can't use psi to eval a surface integral bc psi is a parametrised line
but how would paremetrize the surface
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it's a circle and a some
ok normal vector cant be really 0
but there's gotta be a way now to help with the surface parametrization
if grad x F suggests (0,0,5) then that's gotta be the way
There are 2n socks, making n pairs of socks with different colors, in a drawer. Randomly select two socks, the probability of having two socks of the same color is p1, the probability of having two socks of different colors is p2. What is the smallest n, such that p2 > 5p1?
please help
oh srry
I_2 is
$$\frac{\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7}(\ln(|2x-\sqrt{2}\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7}|)-\ln(|2x+\sqrt{2}\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7}|))+\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}\left(\ln(|2x+\sqrt{2}\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}|)-\ln(|2x-\sqrt{2}\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}|))}{2^\frac{3}{2}\sqrt{17}}$$
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[ \frac{\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7}(\ln \abs{ 2x-\sqrt{2}\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7} } ]
[ -\ln(|2x+\sqrt{2}\sqrt{\sqrt{17}+7}|)) ]
[ +\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}\left(\ln(|2x+\sqrt{2}\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}|)]
[-\ln(|2x-\sqrt{2}\sqrt{7-\sqrt{17}}|))}{2^\frac{3}{2}\sqrt{17}}]
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hard to tell what this should look like
ok judging by this and the fact the integals are all solvable but ugly
liek this has all just been partial fractions
i dont think this is the right method
like i can solve I_4 if youd like
I think this is unsolvable haha
but i dont think this is it
its really not
I 4 splits same way as all of these
you factor out a sine
make sin^2 into 1-cos^2
cos sub
then partial fratios
but yk
not pretty
oh okay
the dot product
are we sure sure that there are no issues in the set up?
with (0,0,5) and the normal vector will get us something nice
no my teacher is known to make mistakes
No uni
i'll relieve you of this misery and say no
.
an integral i made up that is very very very very pretty is this
everything works perfectly tgt
give this to them
How do we use this?
if the gradient is (0,0,5) and the param is $(\cos(\theta), \sin(\theta), r^2(\cos^2(\theta)-sin^2(\theta)))$
caspar
last term is cos(2 theta) if that helps?
yea somthing like that
should be solvable pretty nicely
yea
i mean what is this 😭
theta from 0 to 2pi
Yes
i can try to solve it if you set it up
r from 0 to 1
yea
numerator fixes itself with a small sub and noticing the 'form'
This is my progress
trig terms are -cos(2theta)
I don't think the curl of F is (0, 0, 5)
pretty sure it is
ok, I stand corrected
whats the website called?
the normal vector should be some cross product
of two tangent vectors
oops yeah
i got that
the circulation 0 haha (i have no idea)
jag vet
normal vector is (-,-,r)
thats soo much easier
did I do some mistkae?
yes, should be rcos(t),rsin(t)
on the second
dont differentiate the cos and sin there
yup
I TOLD YA
Yeah that’s insane
so 5pi overall
You were right from the start
well generally you will get way easier integrals, so if it doesnt simplify just try again
especially if it tells you to use stokes or gauss
I was skeptical
Yeah okay
How the two components get to 0 and 5
and the first is somehow some stupid shit haha
i have what seems like a similar class and there are so many problems that simplify like this one
Yeah I hope I never see this again haha
well it was not that bad once we got the right curl and normal vector
yes
Yeah and it’s good to learn if I get one similar to this
super common problem
Well thank you very much to all five people who help solve this haha
did you finish the divergence problem from last night?
Hmm no
Not yet haha
But I think I will tomorrow
This question took all my brainpower
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pinging without a question. come on.
my wifi sucks bro 😭
can u translate question?
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no je suis marocain
there is a problem with the phrasing of the question
which is why i cant answer it
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is this asking you to find the limit using the epsilon-delta definition?
Yes
okay, well the definition is that $\forall
shit
$\forall \epsilon > 0, \exists \delta > 0, |x - a| < \delta \implies |f(x) - L| < \epsilon$
neil
i don't feel like typing in latex anymore lol so im just gonna type it out
you want to show that if you let epsilon and delta be the same, |x - a| < delta must imply that |sqrt(x^2 + 5) - sqrt(a^2 + 5)| < epsilon
hmm there's usually some trick for manipulating these expressions
oh you can see that sqrt(x^2 + 5) - sqrt(a^2 + 5) is always positive
by showing that x^2 + 5 > a^2 + 5
which means showing that x^2 > a^2
hmm there's gotta be some trick here that i'm not seeing, i'm sorry for wasting your time
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What do you think 'bout this proof?
how did you do the second to last step
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There's a shortcut to that problem, you could prove f is Lipschitz with L=1, then you can take \delta = \varepsilon/L.
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Did I do this right
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I need help setting up a function for this as it goes from -1 to 7
you can get 4 values with known outputs and then get a cubic polynomial from there
for example if f(x) is the function graphed, f(-2) = 0, so it must have (x+2) as a factor
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i dont understand
their working
n^3/4 a valid test
since 1/n^3/4 isnt even convergent
it being divergent is the point
oh
bruh
i read answer key wrong
i thought they meant that is covnergent
why do they equate it to n^3/4 anyway
is ln(n)^2 comparable to x^0.5 in the rate it grows?
equate what?
(ln(n))^2 * sqrt(n) to n^0.75
they didn't
but they put it over it
that's completely different from them equating anything
yes
i see
why is answer key
like
not include 3+x^2
for the first integral
but just 2pi x
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can someone tell me why cosec 856 = cosec 35 and not -cosec35?
I find negative while the answer is positive
what quadrant is the angle in
2 i think
where sin is positive like 1 and 4
you got it now?
oh yeah i was incorrect at the first place by doing it as -csc145 right?
yea it’s not negative at all
alright thanks
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Working on homogenous higher order diffeq. They want us to say if these are dependent or independent. To be dependent they must be scalar multiples, however I dont see how these are scalar multiples?
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No the other c)
ohh
2sin^2x+cosx=1
It's wrong
the expression u wrote is wrong
The answers x= 0 2pi/3 4pi/3 2pi
show ur updated working
i got the wrong values
i cant really read ur factoring method but it probably went wrong there
just use quadratic formula
the -b+-√b^2... one
hmm ok
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I got part A because the three arcs should total 360°, so x = 15°.
I can't figure out part B for the life of me.
Well if the 3 arc lengths are the same then you'd have an equilateral triangle
For an isosceles, the arc length |PQ| has to equal the arc length of |PR|
Oh shit, that's easy (because we have arc lengths that begins and end at a points on the triangle, right?)
Thanks so much!
So this is scalene because none of the arc lengths are equal.
should be that way yep
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@autumn fossil you still here/
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i did the uh thing
and i think i got it?
1/(1-x)^2 = nx^(n-1)
but you can tranform x into the form of 1/x
and make it go down
i got the answer so im probadly right
but not sure
perfect
thanks
note that n/2^(n-1) = n*(1/2)^(n-1)
thats crazy how you can just differntiate it and it works
so x = 1/2
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(1.25)^n-1 = .004768716
Do i use logs like this
Log(1.25)*n-1=log(.0047683716)
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HELP
this is my working out so far
this is the answer, I have a problem understanding the right part
the Find zeros part
Do you know the Quadratic Formula?
average rate of change?
x = (-b +- sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)/2a
The derivative of this equation is a quadratic which you can use QF to find the zeroes if there are any.
Yes.
I just have a question why did he use the value -1 and 0
-1 is the average velocity
x(2)-x(0) / 2-0 it leads to an answer of -1
From the first line to the second line on the right, your teacher just added 1 to both sides to the equation on the second line.
As far as why your teacher set it equal to -1, that allows you to find the values of t for when the expression on the left is equal to -1.
Yes.
ok i figured it out
can you help with this
how can i get a second derivative from a table?
Find the slope between the points on both sides and take an average.
,rotate ccw
Looks good.
If a derivative is positive, what does that imply about a function?
its continious?
No. It means the function is increasing.
If g'(x) > 2 on the interval from 1 <= x <= 5, that means it is increasing on that entire interval.
so I is wrong?
Why would it be wrong?
all of them are true because all of the increased?
If at x=4, g(4) is equal to 3, what are possible values of g(x) before x=4?
While true, all of the values are increasing on the interval, does the increase satisify the constraint that g'(x) > 2?
yes
i think so
oh wait
I and II are less than 2
Are you sure about that?
Yes
What is a possible slope from g(1) to g(2)?
it would be an answer less than 2 right?
Find the slope from g(1) to g(2).
there is no table given
and g(5)-g(4)/5-4 = 1
g(4)-g(2)/4-2 = 3/2
g(5)-g(4)/5-4 = 1
II is wrong
and III is wrong
because they are less than 2
g(4)-g(1)/4-1 = 3
so i guess I is the correct answer
Sounds reasonable to me.
To the best of my knowledge, you ruled out possible answers.
yes the answer is correct
but i have a question when i worked out |||
i did g(5)-g(4)/5-4
but in the picture its g(4)-g(5)/5-4
how
the average rate of change is f(b)-f(a)/b-a
oh ok
tysm
For the last one, the slope will be the same as long as you subtract the pairs in the same order.
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hi
how do i do part a and b
i thought maybe the normal reaction force would just be 6g
but its not
oh wait
ive figured out a
how do i do B
the large one right?
yes...?
i have no idea
yeah
but how do i do the question
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what does this mean?
a typo
what is it supossed tobe?
nah just u^T Av
ah nvm
so they were a bit drunk when they wrote that sentence ig
u . Av = u^T Av
its this one
is prolly what they wanted to write
the same as for these?
yes
alright thanks a lot
@fluid axle what is the reason behind that u^T dissapears in the last line?
these ones?
ah
its supossed to be a dot product

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one box is not equal to one motorist
so how does 7-8 equate to 14
For example the 4-6 range has 4 boxes representing it
so one box should reperesent 3/2 of a motorsit no?
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The question tricks you
Because the table gives the delay but to include all times it is really 3.5 - 6.5 then 6.5 - 8.5 etc
@dense iris
wait but how do i know how many motorists
are between that range
It is still the numbers given in the table
Also e.g. for the 4 - 6 delay bar [which, because of the "to the nearest minute", is really 3.5 - 6.5min] you can work out that from there, that should represent 6 people in total, 3 * 2
But imagine theyve rounded the numbers in the table to 0 dp
omg
yeah cause it says 4-6
then goes 7-9
ah
yeah i remember they do this weird thing
in interpolation questions
AHHHHH
Yeaa, trippy 
ok kl thx
That's how they get the 14, that's a height of 7 and a width of 2
[identical arguments for the 10-12min (really 9.5-12.5min) bar and the 16-20 working out to 5]
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is this setup correct?
to rotate about the x axis
im just a bit confused on finding a function for radius, is it just x?
i mean i guess i could just find the volume from 0 to 2 and subtract volume from 0 to 1
but is there a way to represent in one integral
$\pi \int_{1}^{2} {(2 \sqrt{x})}^2 \mathrm{d} x$
Potatomonke
simplifies to $4 \pi \int_{1}^{2} x \mathrm{d} x$
Potatomonke
oh my god im dumb idk why i thought y axis
lol
like i got it confused somehow
dw
ok hypothetically if i were to rotate about the y axis what would i have to do
x axis is pretty straight forward i get that
you change the function so its in terms of x
so instead of y = whatever(x)
it becomes x = whatever(y)
since you now differentiate in terms of y
would shell method work too? thats what i was initially trying to do
well maybe
but you are only dealing with a single curve
so you could just do disc
to rotate around y its just
x= (y/2)^2
y = 2 sqrt(x) becomes x = (y^2)/4
yeah
then you have to find you new limits
since we are differentiating in terms of y instead of x
yea
2 and 2sqrt2
thats basically it
so you would do pi integral from 2sqrt2 to 2 of ((y^2)/4))^2
mhm
dy
its fine lol everyone makes mistakes
im grinding out a 15k word essay rn lol
i need to finish at least 1k more before i sleep
end of semester is so rough
literally
im glad im done with college writing
oop
25 page paper killed me
rip
honestly we got a month for this but i procrastinated cuz of aps
weve alr done like 10k so its honestly just writing 5k more
oh yea im glad im done with aps too lol those sucked
i took ap calc i literally learned this stuff in hs but i gotta review it for my calc 2 final
np
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how do I do this and whats the formula
a) do not spam helpers right after asking your question
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alr my b my b
so what i was thinking was volume = length x width x hight but im just having trouble trying to plug in the numbers for that
wait is it
18 x 1.5 x 2.3^3
= 59.32
kind of a guess but idk
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Bro dbi why you taggin bers
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what’s your question I’ll do just so you shush
this
so i think youre just converting in^3 to ft^3
question has awful wording
but im pretty sure thats whats going on
hmm
i think you would multiply the original volume by 12^3
since there are 12 inches in a foot
and its cubed
you mean this volume?
yea the given
im like 90% sure
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just to clarify to find the answer you said to mulitply
2.3^3 x 12^3
oh the 2.3 is ft^3
its not like 2.3^3
its just 2.3
and ft^3 is the units
sorry i didnt catch that before
so 2.3 x 12^3?
k
ty
the final answer comes out as 3974.4
but I feel like thats kinda long no?
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Is the answer -1/4 for both x and y
I am not sure if I am right but this is what I got
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Each letter in the word ACRIMONIOUS is printed individually on a card. When cards are arranged next to each other in a line, determine the number of different permutations of all the cards where all the consonants are adjacent
wht did u try to do?
Theres 6 vowels and 5 consonants so there would be two groups of vowels and consonants
yes
So i did (6! x 5! x 2!)/2!2!
2! for 2 o's and 2 i's okay
Yeah
its correct
The answers say its (7!x5!)/2!2!
What
Im not understanding
lemme show u
Ok
Yea
OHH
so total 7 characters
yes
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Wait i have another question
How would you determine the number of different permutations using any 4 of the letters
wot?
Well
so A,C,R,I,M,O,N,U,S
Yeah
Why is it 4!?
because u have a word with 4 letters
Oh
yes
The answers also added the times where there were pairs of letters and both pairs
oh so we need to consider those
ok so now extra 2 letters are there
I and O
getting repeated
Yea
Mhm
choose - 8C2
shuffle - 4!/2!
if u consider 2 O's its same
but if u get 2I's and 2O's
then 4!/2!2!
Oh thats why its divided by 2!
yes
idk i love maths
Do you also know about vectors?
yes
Ok
P and Q are moving with constant velocities (2,0)ms and (1,-2)m/s respectively. P has initial position vector (1,-2)m and Q has initial position vector (3,4). Determine the distance between the vectors after 5 seconds
dude this is physics only
Well my syllabus has vectors that go into physics and forces 😭
I know about the vector stuff
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s a m e
x=cost
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Trig sub probs your best bet here. Let x=sinx works I think
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My text says e^(10x)=100x+1 has two solutions, but I can not see how it is 2 and not 1, i tried on graph and it looks like 1 there too
,w graph e^(10x) - 100x-1 on [-0.5,0.5]
It has two sols because the Lambert W function has multiple branches
There we go lol
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for a functional equation like $$f(\frac{x+2}{x-2})=\frac{x^2+4x+4}{8x}$$ how would u ask wolfram alpha to solve for f(x) ?
Hemesfere
let (x+2/x-2)=u
change it to an equation in u I guess
write it in terms of f(y)
you'll have to solve the equation first
to obtain x in terms of y
,w solve (x+2)/(x-2)=u for x
thats what im trying to skip lol
substitute x with this
ik how to solve the equation, im asking if theres a way to solve functional equations using wolfram alpha
not sure
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Can vectors just go on each other like that?
I need to do a-b but they kinda end up being on the same line ?????
so it's all good?
Yes
how
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Can someone explain alternative method