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wet osprey
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But only 3 different things can fit into the 2nd slot

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Now only 2 different things can fit in the 3rd slot

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And there’s no choice but to put whatever’s left in the last slot

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There are 4! Ways to permute 4 distinct objects, 4 * 3 * 2 * 1

scarlet harbor
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is it realistic?

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I was actually thinking of an election for the government or something

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but idk if it will work

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is 4•3•2•1 what they want me to do?

wet osprey
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Well that’s good for the first question, but you can also think of it as

scarlet harbor
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as?

wet osprey
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How many different outcomes can you get if you: roll a 4 sided dice, then a 3 sided dice, then a 2 sided dice, then a 1 sided dice

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Obviously the 1 sided dice roll doesn’t do anything

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But with the set up you can make anything you want really

scarlet harbor
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so that'll lead to 4•3•2•1?

wet osprey
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10 * 6 * 3 * 2 simply becomes roll a 10 sided dice then a 6 sided dice then a 3 sided dice then a 2 sided dice

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Since there will be 10 different numbers in the first slot

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6 different numbers in the 2nd slot

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Etc

scarlet harbor
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where did 10,6,3,2 came from?

wet osprey
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I just made it up

scarlet harbor
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ah

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So we goods in no. 1

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what I'm rlly confused abt is no. 2

wet osprey
scarlet harbor
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can I do the same with 2?

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like

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given

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A bakery offers a special promotion where customers can create their own custom cake by choosing from 5 different cake flavors, 2 different frosting options, and 3 different decoration designs. In how many ways can a customer create their custom cake?

scarlet harbor
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I think it can, right?

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5,2,3

scarlet harbor
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yesss

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okay, thank you

wet osprey
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This is a little weird because the conference has 5 sessions

scarlet harbor
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okay so not that

wet osprey
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So somehow you need to permute the 5

scarlet harbor
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I'll stick with the cake?

wet osprey
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But we actually only want to select 1 of the 5

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Cake was a better example

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okay, thank you!!

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quartz citrus
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uh

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have you shown that (a/p) = (a)^((p-1)/2) mod p yet

grand valve
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Yes!

quartz citrus
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use that

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for (-1/p)

grand valve
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Sorry, that's wha tthe last part was in reference to. The case of p=6k+1 yields (-1/p)=(-1)^(3k), but it's unknown if 3k is even or odd

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Similarly, p=6k+5 yields (-1/p) = (-1)^(3k+2) = (-1)^3k

quartz citrus
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(-1)^(3k) = (-1)^ k

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so two cases

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4 cases total

grand valve
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Hm

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I dont think that satisfies what I'm tasked to prove, though

quartz citrus
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why not

grand valve
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I'm supposed to find this purely off the value of p mod 6

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Aw hell I think the way I handled $\left(\frac{3}{p}\right)$ mgiht have been wrong

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cat_food_sounds

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p = 6k + 1 case -> 6(2t) + 1 = 1 mod 6, 6(2t + 1) + 1 = 1 mod 6
p = 6k + 5 case -> 6(2t) + 5 = 5 mod 6, 6(2t+1) + 5 = 5 mod6

grand valve
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of course, but if k is an odd then wouldn't it then flip the returned values of (-1/p)?

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I'm probably just going to abandon this for the time being and come back to it tomorrow.

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Help me pls

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Yea

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I want the formula of surface area of sphere

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Pls

light helm
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google

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i second that

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Oh yea thank you

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Problem: Find the volumes of the solids generated by revolving the regions bounded by the graphs of the equations about the given lines.
y = 5x2
y = 0
x = 2

fast tinsel
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Ive gotten the volume of the region when rotated around the y axis and x axis but my brain cant comprehend how to get the volume of the region when its rotated around y = 20 or rotated around y = 2.

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not y = 2, around x = 2

spark bloom
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y'all are way too smart for me

fast tinsel
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lol i try my best but this problems making me feel pretty dumb rn

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I have no idea how to even start this

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midnight haven
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Is B the same as P in the diagonlizable formula $A = PDP^{-1}$

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Book Reader

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yes

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yo im cooked

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midnight haven
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yeah its four

vestal tapir
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i get 16

gentle sundial
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yeah im defo cooked

midnight haven
gentle sundial
vestal tapir
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3 additions

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6 "negations"

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7 "multiplications"

gentle sundial
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wait im braindead wtf

midnight haven
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I counted 10

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7 ands and three ors

gentle sundial
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hmmmmmmmm

midnight haven
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oh wiat

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you need negation gates?

gentle sundial
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i dont even care about a i just dont know how to simplify this

midnight haven
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thats crazy

midnight haven
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$\hat{A} \hat{B}(C+D) = \hat{A}\hat{B}C + \hat{A}\hat{B}D$ distrubutive property

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midnight haven
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There are also other rules you can use to simplify

gentle sundial
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like absorption law ?

vestal tapir
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also or gates don't do anything so it could be 13

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ayt thanks gentleman, im gonna relearn this

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"Calculate the double integral. Tip: Be sure to change variables"

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sterile pecan
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How do I solve it with substitution method?

wet osprey
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which one you've sent 5 problems

sterile pecan
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3 problems but I am stuck with o and p

wet osprey
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if u let u = x^-1

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that sounds like a useful substitution

sterile pecan
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You are Talking about the p exercise?

wet osprey
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o

sterile pecan
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But why x^-1

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If there is no -1

wet osprey
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try it and see

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1/x is x^-1

sterile pecan
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Okey I thought of it a shortcut or sth

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It make one x not dissapear

wet osprey
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show me what you've done

sterile pecan
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And dt which is missing at the end

wet osprey
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,rotate

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wet osprey
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but $\frac{e^t}{x} = e^t(x^{-1})$

jolly parrotBOT
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Frosst

sterile pecan
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Ohhh

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Right

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Now I see

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But the multiplicstion seems to still be problematic

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With the method I was given

wet osprey
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you dont know how to integrate te^t?

sterile pecan
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Yes

wet osprey
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do you know about integration by parts

sterile pecan
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I mean I know this method But it is not what this exercise is about

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It shouldn't be used I guess

wet osprey
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what's the exercise about?

sterile pecan
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About using substitution and the basic formulas

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Same with the p)

wet osprey
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is this section before or after IBP

sterile pecan
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Before

wet osprey
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well

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im not sure then, xe^x is a very common integral

sterile pecan
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So u suggest i should just know that

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And how about the p without using special formula for fractions

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so to start I guess the cartesian form will be more relevant here

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so let $z=x+iy$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

sharp smelt
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so this would be

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$|x^2-y^2 +2ixy +x+iy+1|=1$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

smoky musk
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I recommend not using cartesian coordinate here. It's longer

sharp smelt
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hmm, polar form then?

smoky musk
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No, just treating complex number like a number

sharp smelt
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hmm, o

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ok

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so I have to solve (x^2+x+1)=1 essentially

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the equation when real, anyway lies entirely above the x-axis

smoky musk
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+-, don't forget

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Also, when you encounter the determinant < 0, do NOT discard the case.

sharp smelt
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x^2+x=0 is one case

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so x(x+1)=0

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so x=0

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or x=-1?

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how does that make sense

smoky musk
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That's two of the possible answers

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Now, find the other case

sharp smelt
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but if x=-1

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that means |z|=-1, right?

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oh

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z=-1

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right

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makes snese

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(sense

sharp smelt
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x^2+x+2=0

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hmm

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this gives two imaginary solutions

smoky musk
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Now, you just has to plug it out.

sharp smelt
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why does this work though

smoky musk
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Because fundamental theorem of algebra

sharp smelt
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hmm, so option b is right

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I guess I substitute and solve for the other too, right?

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Yes

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+---------------+--------------------+----------------------+
|               | Answered correctly | Answered incorrectly |
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Hello, I have a two part question, firstly, why does the 2n+1 become 2n+3 when doing the ratio test? Shouldn't it become 2n+2 since we are only adding 1?
Secondly, when simplyifing the limit, since n is our term of consideration, we can remove the -16x^2 from the absolute value (as a positive) and solve for whatever is left on the inside correct?

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something like this maybe

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but it's wrong, and I don't understand why

trim willow
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And yes you can move 16x^2 outside

restive bluff
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Makes perfect sense now

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trim willow
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the answer is correct

restive bluff
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idk it's telling me it's wrong

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maybe I need to input -16x^2?

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since it's still in the absolute value the way they have it

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ok I guess that worked lol 😅

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I'm a little confused as to what happens to the limit here

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If everything cancels out leaving just |x|/3 and there are no n terms

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How can I determine a limit?

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What if I wrote what you had as |x|/3+0*n

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could you then find limit?

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mmmm

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oh I get it now

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I wrote x/3 instead of |x|/3

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they just ignore it

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they're just showing w is a sum of $THING1 in ker(g(phi)) and $THING2 in ker(f(phi))

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with $THING1 = (uf)(phi)(w) and $THING2 = (vg)(phi)(w)

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you can just show these two inclusions independently

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if g(phi) ($THING1) = 0, then $THING1 is in ker(g(phi))

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that's what they're doing yes

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@rapid bough

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it's not multiplication, g(phi) is an endomorphism V -> V

rapid bough
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doesnt the set of endomorphisms make an algebra with composition so could i view it like multiplication or is that just completely incorrect?

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also I’m not seeing the equality

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wait we have Ker(fg)(phi) <= Ker(f(phi)) + Ker(g(phi))

and Ker(f(phi)) <= Ker(fg)(phi)
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Does anyone know what this question means?

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I emailed my professor and he gave me the most vague response

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he said "with the question as stated iy should be y’=10000+0.01y."

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but in the previous email he said y'=10000-0.01y

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I'm wondering if he meant withdrawed instead of depsoitied in the start

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wait why is it 0.01y and not 0.1y if it's 10% return

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every year you gain 10,000 + 0.1*(whatever's in the bank)

fossil drum
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idk he makes a lot of mistakes and he doesn't provide an answer key so I don't know if my answers to the questions on this practice test are right

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maybe he meant .10 but maybe he didn't im not sure

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no I'm not sure why

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so year 0 there's no money in the bank

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so we add 10000 + 0.1(0)

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and now there's 10000

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the next year we add another 10,000, and we also get 10% on the 10000 we put in last year

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so the change that year is 10,000 + 0.1(10,000)

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and the derivative is the rate of change

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so the rate of change per year is 10,000 + 0.1y

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where y is how much money is in the bank

fossil drum
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hmmm

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doesn't that equation model how much is in the investment count P(t) instead of P'(t), I'm confused on why it's P'(t)

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or actually no it doesnt

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oh I see

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ok I see thank you

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nice

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what would happen if the balance didn't start with 0

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like what if it started with 5,000

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oh

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would I just add a + 5000 to the equation

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well no nvm

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I think it would y' = 0.10(y + 5000) + 10000

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or no that doesn;t make sense

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wait what is y in this equation 😭

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it's the amount in the balance right

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and y' is the rate of change per year

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so that means if we started with 5000

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I drew this diagram, not entirely sure if it's correct

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and then for part b what I thought of doing was to find the point A

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which i figured would be equal to OA + AB

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and in that case, OA + AB = OA + OA - OB

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therefore A = 2OA - OB

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worked that out though and got (-4,0,9)

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which wasn't in the answers

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need someone to correct my logic

thin sigil
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If O is the centerpoint of the coordinate system, then vector OA gives you the coordinates of point A, so you already have the coordinates of point A

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OA + AB would give you OB as a result

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No, it would be at one of the corners, but it's treated as the center of the coordinate system from which all coordinates are determined

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therefore OA is basically the coordinates of A

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if you had a point D, the coordinates of D would be given by the vector OD

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ok so then wouldn't A be OB - OA?

thin sigil
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Essentially, you are given the coordinates of 3 vertices and have to find the others

midnight haven
thin sigil
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OB - OA would give you the vector BA

midnight haven
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this is my newly labelled diagram

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this question is trickier than I thought, my idea was we'd add and subtract vectors

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until we got a corner

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but it doesn't seem like we can do that

thin sigil
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hmmm you're assuming that A, B and C are spread out like that

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why is OB a diagonal and not a side?

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Try drawing it taking dimensions into account, you might get something else

midnight haven
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let me do that really quick

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not sure if this complicated things or not

thin sigil
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You're probably supposed to sketch it on paper

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Well, I guess in this case you're supposed to assume that each of the point A, B and C is an opposing corner of the parallelepiped from O

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so none of them are diagonals

midnight haven
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this is how it's supposed to look

thin sigil
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The dimensions in this one are a little iffy, but yeah

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so OB is not a diagonal

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it's a side

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knowing that you can do vector addition to find the other sides

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or rather their coordinates

midnight haven
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O would obviously be our first one

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(0,0,0)

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and the 3 other points given I assume would be the other ones

thin sigil
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yes

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using integration find the area bounded by y=4 and y=x^2 with the y axis

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would this be 0? as y=+_ sqrt x and that means the two area we get while integrating wrt y will be equal in magnitude but opp in sign

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I dont think it would be zero. Your finding the area bounded by those lines so as long as it exists it should be a value.

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i agree, but when I m solving it wrt to y i m getting 0 mathematically

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Isn't it just the integral from a to b than the top minus the bottom? I get a number unless I forgot how to get the area. Let me draw it out

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okk

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solve it wrt y though

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dy not dx

fast tinsel
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Ok so when I do it from dy I get a number but it's negative. Not getting zero which it shouldn't be but I don't think it should be negative either

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u should not get -ve...

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You know the formula right?

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ya

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wait a sec...4

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So u don't know the formula?

warm fern
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x=+- sqrt y

fast tinsel
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That shouldn't matter, let me look at what I'm doing wrong it's been a while. But you do understand why I have the integral from 0 ro 4 right

warm fern
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it would, ur missing half the area. yes i get that

fast tinsel
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I see what I did wrong, hold on

warm fern
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ok

fast tinsel
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Ok so the left graph isn't y=4 our left graph is the y axis which is just zero. I'll send you the picture if u don't get something just tell me.

warm fern
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ok

fast tinsel
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ok um... wht did u do??

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also with dx i m getting -ve 16/3

fast tinsel
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What did u do?

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I got 16/3

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Let me write down an explanation hopefully it'll ne better than typing it

warm fern
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ok um... ur ans is wrong

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Welp I don't know what I did wrong lol mb.

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That should be the formula though, im not sure what I'm putting in wrong.

warm fern
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this is with dx

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I want it with dy

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Ye I understand that. Let me see ur work. What u got there is correct right?

warm fern
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Ya

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Should we ask someone else to help?

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Fresh eyes might help

fast tinsel
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Ye I don't mind lol I'm in the same boat as u now

warm fern
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lol, um whom do we ask though?

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Idk lol I just joined yesterday

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<@&286206848099549185>

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i m tryin this

fast tinsel
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Let me look at ur work though maybe I can remember how ti do it dy

warm fern
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mhm ok

fast tinsel
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But why are u doing the area outside the curve and not the inside, aren't we getting the area of the region bounded by y=x^2 y =4 and y axis

warm fern
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i m doing area inside only

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see my eq

fast tinsel
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Ye but u shaded the outside, so u just ignored the shaded region right

warm fern
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i subtracted that

fast tinsel
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Okay just confused me a little usually I shade in the region im finding, I get it now

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Are u sure my answer was wrong? I mean should it be the same area as what u got when doing it dx. 16/3 is the area and if u want the negative side as well than it's just 16/3 timed 2 because both sides are equivalent leading to 32/3 unless that answer is wrong.

warm fern
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ok then ur ans is right

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but i dont want u to do that

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write an integral for the -ve side

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and u will see that u get a -ve area

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uk wht nvm

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i have lost my mind

fast tinsel
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Yes because it's on the negative side u get -16/3

warm fern
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ur right

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i got the ans

fast tinsel
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If u were to add it u get 0 but that's not logical therfore u just times it by two

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Ok

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thanks for the help

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Np

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i bothered u for such a long time, sorry abt that too

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Where am i going wrong

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take mod value of the -ve x-axis part

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the areas are cancelling out

warm fern
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But we cant just take mod like that?

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but the area of parabola on the left will give negative

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in these cases we give logic that, the figure is symmetric, so we calculate the positive side and double it, since the negative side will also have same area

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Ya but i read somewhere area is only -ve under x-axis

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that is true, if u are calculating wrt to x-axis

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here ur axis is y

warm fern
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Ok if we have the same ques but (x-1) ^2 instead of x^2

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There wont be symm.

torpid thicket
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yes they wont be

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then u have to use mod value for negative area

warm fern
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But how can we just apply mod like this

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It doesnt make sense

torpid thicket
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but area cant be negative man

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we are just take absolute value

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for area wrt y, we would have to do the right minus the left function

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just like how you would do wrt x, you do top minus bottom

warm fern
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Um, please explain that again

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when you find area enclosed between two functions with respect to x, we would integrate from lets say a to b, and our integrand would be the top minus the bottom function

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same applies to when we are finding area with respect to y, but instead of doing top minus bottom, we would do right minus left

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think of the integrand as the height of the infinitely small rectangles

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Thank you so much!

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The first image is a common diagram to show where the formula of a determinant comes from

I have rotated this diagram, and I get a different formula for the area.

= ab + ad + bc + cd - cd - ab
= ad + bc```
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In the first diagram, all the values are positive, so they can be interpreted as the lengths

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In the second diagram, c is negative, so the length of the red and green line is not a + c but rather a + |c| or alternatively a - c

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i dont get how i got it wrong

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and it wants you to find the length

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the notes say to use a period as the decimal symbol

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use pi on your calculator

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idk wtf the third thing says

grim fractal
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Since this is a prism, just find the area of the base

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and don't round your answer

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then area of base * length = volume, so <310

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wait but how

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# rough forge Bonjour, can you translate it

Here is a sketch of a drinking trough that Martine's father would like to build for his horses. He wants it to have a capacity of 310 litres. Work out for him how long the trough should be.

Notes:

Use the "." for the decimal symbol.
Use the π on your calculator.
Use your calculator's memory wisely.
Don't round off your final answer. Write the first three decimal places.
The length of the trough should be

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tidal vine
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yes

rough forge
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The whole thing is 310 volume wise

tidal vine
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yes

rough forge
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310 = V_cuboid + V_half_cylinder

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310 = width x length x height + πr²h/2

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ok?

tidal vine
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abc?

rough forge
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width length height

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Let's collect what we have

tidal vine
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r= 25 and largeur= 50 cm

rough forge
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ok

tidal vine
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and volume= 310 L/dm

rough forge
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notice we are looking for the height

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we are given the length and width

tidal vine
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yes

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but shouldnt i convert 310 dm to cm

rough forge
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yes

tidal vine
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so that would be 31 cm

rough forge
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no

tidal vine
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oh 3100

rough forge
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no

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310 liters = 310 dm³

tidal vine
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ohhhh 310 000

rough forge
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yes

tidal vine
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ooppsies

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so that would be 310 000= 25 times 50 time height

rough forge
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hold on

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,,310.000cm^3 = 25cm \times 50cm \times h + \frac{h \times (25cm)^2 \times \pi}{2}

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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

rough forge
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half cylinder😅

tidal vine
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so taht would be 310 000= 1250h + 981.747... h

rough forge
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I wouldn't calculate pi yet!

tidal vine
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oh why?

rough forge
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,, = 310.000cm^3 = 1250cm^2 \times h + \frac{625}{2} \pi cm^2 \times h

jolly parrotBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

rough forge
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I would first solve for h

tidal vine
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ohh so then i do 625/2

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then +1250?

rough forge
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We can factor h

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,, = 310.000cm^3 = \left( 1250cm^2 + \frac{625}{2} \pi cm^2 \right ) \times h

jolly parrotBOT
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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

rough forge
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And then if we divide by this get the decimal number

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310000/(1250+625π/2) = h

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,w 310000/(1250+625π/2)

tidal vine
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oh thats gives the answr

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i get it now

rough forge
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Actually I think we could have done pi before

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but then we would have to be cautious about the decimals

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,w 310000/(1250+981.747)

rough forge
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ok good gives the same!

tidal vine
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yay!

rough forge
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like as long as we took the first 3 decimals it's alr

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yes

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thank you!!!

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no problem

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Is this notation ok?

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i havent seen notation like that

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but if you define it well i dont see the problem

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maybe give some more context?

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Mm I’ve only seen that when x goes to infinity

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For a specific p it’s a bit weird

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# white juniper i havent seen notation like that

yep, I've been studying variable substitution in limits and I wondered if I can be a bit more rigorous instead of just substitute the value of the tendency of a variable just to find out the other one. E.g., given that y=5x:

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Daisuke

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Most text books I use are specific for problem solving of pre-University math questions for applications for military carrier, so calculus isn't that rigorous at all.

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kind of stuck

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i started by finding the points of intersection with

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20+10cos(2theta)=sin(2theta)

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but i have no idea how to find theta here

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wait, the graphs dont intersect

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the area of A_2 is $\int^{\frac{\pi}2}_0{\frac12 (\sin(2\theta))^2\mathrm{d}\theta}$

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which is

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pi/8

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as for the big thing

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i found the area of the big thing to be 225pi i think

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but 225pi-pi/8 is wrong

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oh wow

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the limits were from 0 to 2pi for the big thing

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struggling with these questions, I think I got 10a right, but not sure about 10b, let me show what I have

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is that right?

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Yes what i meant

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Wait this 10')

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rough forge
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hold on

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,, (-x^2)^n = (-1)^n x^{2n}

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𝔸dωn𝓲²s

rough forge
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So you actually have

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x^(2n)/(n+2)!

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Differentiated would be

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(2n-1)x^(2n-1)/(n+2)!

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Imma go sleep hope it helps

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ok thank you

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Just noticed

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You are squaring somthing

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Negative is gone

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10a) and b)

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The last row is a total guess...

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celest spruce
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Nope, the homework program said it was wrong... I just left the answer I entered...

versed remnant
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yeah wheres the inverse coming from?

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shouldnt it just be sin(8x)?

celest spruce
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Sorry for the clutter...

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This is part of what the answer is based on...

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versed remnant
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the rule u say has 1-k^2x^2

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so u need 1 in the first place to apply that

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the 3^2 is still under sqrt root i forgot to put it there

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also there should be a "k" in between sin^-1 and x

celest spruce
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There is, it's in red.

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in ur answer

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so ur answer would become
$$\frac{1}{8} \sin^{-1} \big{(} \frac{8x}{3} \big {)}$$

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JustToPro

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+c

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I'm so confused...

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ok ill help wait

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$$\frac{1}{8} \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{9-u^2}}$$

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versed remnant
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till this , all is correct

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now lets solve the integral

celest spruce
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Here's what I have so far...

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$$\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{3^2-u^2}}$$

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JustToPro

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u have a formula / rule that states
$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(kx)^2}} = \frac{1}{k} \sin^{-1}kx +c$$

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versed remnant
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lets convert ur integral into that form first before using the rule

celest spruce
versed remnant
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from here

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im starting from there

celest spruce
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Ready

versed remnant
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is the rule correct ?

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yeah its correct nvm

celest spruce
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I just rewrote what was circled down below where there's more room. I don't know what to do next...

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i forgot

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wait dont do anything

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$$\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{3^2-u^2}}$$

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just tell me what u dont understand btw

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u have a formula / rule that states
$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(kx)^2}} = \frac{1}{k} \sin^{-1}kx +c$$

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JustToPro

versed remnant
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we have to convert ur integral into this form

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so to get 1 we need to divide by 3^2

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but if we divide we also have to multiply

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$$\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{3^2-u^2}\cdot \sqrt{\frac{3^2}{3^2}}}$$

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JustToPro

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take out 3 and we get

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$$\frac13 \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{3^2}u^2}}$$

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JustToPro

versed remnant
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now here k^2 = 1/3^2

celest spruce
versed remnant
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using the formula

versed remnant
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just reply to the part u dont understand

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$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(kx)^2}} = \frac{1}{k} \sin^{-1}kx +c$$
in ur integral $k^2 = \frac{1}{3^2} \implies k = \frac{1}{3}$ so
$$\frac13 \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{3^2}u^2}} = \frac{1}{3} \big{(}\frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}} \sin^{-1} \frac{1}{3}u\big{)} + c$$

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simplify the answer we get

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$$\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{3^2-u^2}} = \frac13 \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{1}{3^2}u^2}} = \sin^{-1}\frac{1}{3}u$$

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use this in here $$\frac{1}{8} \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{9-u^2}}$$
We get $$\frac18 \sin^{-1}\frac{1}{3}u$$

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use value of u

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We get $$\frac18 \sin^{-1}\frac{1}{3}8x$$

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$$\frac{1}{8} \int \frac{1}{\sqrt{9-u^2}} = \frac18 \sin^{-1}\frac{1}{3}8x$$

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JustToPro

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basically ur rule/formula only works when u have $\sqrt{1-(kx)^2$ , the $1$ needs to be there

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so to get 1 we just divide and multiply the entire square root with 3^2 because 3^2/3^2 is 1

celest spruce
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total guess...

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uh

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thats correct

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next step

celest spruce
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How does the 3 get to the outside of the radical...? I don't know what's going on..

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btw multiplying and dividing isnt necessary if u are kinda good at factoring

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$$(3 - u) = 3(1 - \frac{u}{3})$$

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and square root is just powered 1/2

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so $$(ab)^\frac12 = a^\frac12 b^\frac12$$

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keep practicing u would understand

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usually these can be tricky to understand

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It's all been an eldritch horror to me... I'll try rewriting it as (stuff)^1/2. That should make it a little less frightening...

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yeah u can do that

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it can be horror to ppl new to calc

celest spruce
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u will

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good luck

celest spruce
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I still don't understand what's going on... How did it get to be (1/3^2)u^2??? I'm even more lost than when I started.

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How do I get to the next step from here?

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Found a clue here... I'll keep stumbling forward...

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Never mind... totally lost...

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Don't know what I'm doing wrong...

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<@&286206848099549185> ?

midnight haven
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I guess you should end up with an ln, bc you have to do u=g(x) and du=g'(x)

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And taking that 1/8 out isn't correct, you have to get it from the 9 too, which you can't cause you didn't change anything abt that 9

celest spruce
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So... How do I solve this...?

midnight haven
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I'm not really sure

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Let me look into it

celest spruce
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I give up... I'll do the walk through on this problem... Maybe there will be a hidden clue there. 🤷‍♂️

midnight haven
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I'm sorry, but I can't help much now

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It's 5am and I haven't slept yet

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Gn

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I don't understand how the 9 disappears from the final answer...

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Does anyone know what the runtime for this is?

marble sigil
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seems like it's usually always true

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My bad I mean the runtime complexity

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O(n) right?

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oh woops I read it wrong

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Haha all good I think it is O(n)

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Tyty tho 🙏🏻

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O(n^3) methinks

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What would the bounds for the integral be for the one on the right? I'm trying to compute mass moment of inertia

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can u @ me pls if u know

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i thought it would be x to x+R

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integration wont work for your purpose i think

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smoky solar
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yo im kinda stuxk on this question, I dont know how to solve it

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<@&286206848099549185>

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So you are given the angles of <C, <A, <DE and <CB -‘d you have also been given the length of DE+AC

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What you want to find is the length of AB

smoky solar
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yeah but like idk how to go from there

wanton latch
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With that given information, you look at the sides of the shapes of your image

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essentially it’s a triangle divided into a smaller triangle and a trapezoid. (Ik u know that just bear with me)

smoky solar
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umm what next?

wanton latch
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Do you know what the side splitter theorem is?

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Idk if my internet is letting me send or receive messages

smoky solar
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i do not know what that is

wanton latch
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what side splitter theorem says is if a line is parallel to another (like DE being parallel to BC) and perpendicular to the another (DE is perpendicular to AC) then the triangle split by that line all be directly proportional

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The pain in the butt part is that they gave us too much info to go off of

smoky solar
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so...?

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what does the side splitter theorem do?

wanton latch
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Did you learn about that in class?

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It helps you find the length of any missing side, but this problem isn’t giving us the necessary information that I thought could help. And if you didn’t learn anything about it in class I doubt this is what this is on

smoky solar
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im in year 9

wanton latch
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Alright then, looks like we are going to the basics, do you know sine cosine and tangent?

smoky solar
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yeah

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SOHCAHTOA?

wanton latch
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great!

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We are going to utilize sohcahtoa to our advantage for this kind of problem

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even though we don’t have many exact values, we know DE+AC= 12 and the angle of A is 30° and angle C is 90°

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with that information we can isolate AC and use which trig function to solve for AB?

leaden wadi
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Would you like some help?

smoky solar
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um I think im kinda dumb

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I dont know how to do it

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is it cosine?

leaden wadi
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There are three relationships in the problem that are "given" to you". Two are explicitly given, DE + AC = 12 and AD = BC, and the other is implied from the given information, ACB is similar to ADE.

smoky solar
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is it because acb and ade share the same angles?

leaden wadi
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Yes.

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Because they are similar triangles, you can make the relationship, AD/AC = DE/BC.

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So you have DE + AC = 12, AD = BC, and AD/AC = DE/BC.

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Let's simplify things a little bit and get rid of the segment names. Let's rename them with something easier, easier for me anyways.

smoky solar
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i see

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so if we cross multiply ADxBC is 12?

leaden wadi
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No. AD + BC =12 which is not the same as ADxBC.

smoky solar
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oh

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yeh

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so ad is 6?

leaden wadi
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No.

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So given two of the relationships previously mentioned and using the renamed segments, you have the two relationships a + b = 12 and c/a = b/c.

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These are two equations and three unknown variables.

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That is one too many unknown variables. You need to winnow it down to two unknown variables.

smoky solar
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so we can turn umm

leaden wadi
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a into b-12?

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so c is b-12

leaden wadi
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a + b = 12

a = 12 - b

smoky solar
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i see

leaden wadi
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So you have these two equations, what else can you do?

smoky solar
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we can substirute a?

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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so b x (b-12) is equal to c?

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c squared?

leaden wadi
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c^2 = b x (12-b)

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c^2 = 12b-b^2

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Now look at this image. Can you think of a way to solve for b or c in terms of the other variable?

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Think of SOH-CAH-TOA.

smoky solar
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so umm

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should be use sine law?

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wait no

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um

leaden wadi
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What are the two sides in relation to theta?

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Are they adjacent, opposite, or hypotenuse?

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Is b adjacent, opposite, or hypotenuse?

smoky solar
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opposite

leaden wadi
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Is c adjacent, opposite, or hypotenuse?

smoky solar
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c is adjacent

leaden wadi
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So you have an adjacent and opposite side, which of the trig functions should you use?

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SOH-CAH-TOA

smoky solar
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tan right?

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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but does that not find the angle

leaden wadi
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You know the angle, it was given to you by the problem.

smoky solar
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but if we plug it into the equation do we not get tan30=b/b-12?

leaden wadi
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tan(30) = b/c

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c ≠ b - 12

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a = 12 - b

smoky solar
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oh

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shoot

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so we use b/tan30 to get c?

leaden wadi
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Yes!

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Or you could solve for b and get b = c x tan(30).

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Either way eliminates another unknown variable.

smoky solar
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wait I thought we dont know what c is

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oh so then we can substitute that into the equation

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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so (b/tan30)^2=12b-b^2

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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but how do we solve this equation?

leaden wadi
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Have you taken algebra?

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What is tan(30) equal to?

smoky solar
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1/2

leaden wadi
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No.

smoky solar
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oh wait its umm

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1 right?

leaden wadi
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No. Do you know the hand trick for the standard angles?

smoky solar
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its like 123,321 rooted , and then divide by 2

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and then take the top 2 for tan?

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oh so its 1/root3

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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so then we do (b/root3)^2 = 12b-b^2

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which is

leaden wadi
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No.

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tan(30) = 1/sqrt(3)

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If you divide by tan(30), you end up with sqrt(3) * b.

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b/(1/sqrt(3)) = sqrt(3) b

smoky solar
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and then after its squared it will b 3xb^2?

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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so 3xb^2=12b-b^2

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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so 2xb^2 =12b

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so b is 12?

leaden wadi
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No.

smoky solar
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wait no

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i meant

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6 right?

leaden wadi
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b^2=6b?

leaden wadi
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What math operation do you perform to move the -b^2 to the left-hand side?

smoky solar
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wait forgive me for being so dumb

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i thought it was +

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so 4b^2 is 12b

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so 3b =b^2

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b = 3?

leaden wadi
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b^2 = 3b

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b = 3 and b = 0

smoky solar
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but it must be 3 right?

leaden wadi
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But for this problem, b = 0, does not make any sense so you can ignore that value.

leaden wadi
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So b = 3. Now you can solve for c and then a.

smoky solar
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so using the a+b =12

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we get that a is 9

leaden wadi
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Yes.

smoky solar
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and we use pythagorus theorem to get line ab?

leaden wadi
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You need to find c first before using the Pythagorean Theorem.

smoky solar
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c is umm

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12x3-9

leaden wadi
smoky solar
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root 27?

leaden wadi
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Yes, or 3sqrt(3).

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So now you have the two sides of the right triangle, 9 and root(27).

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What does AB equal?

smoky solar
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its root9^2+27

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root 108

leaden wadi
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,calc sqrt(108)

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Result:

10.392304845413
smoky solar
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Thank you So much!!

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you are the best!

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yw. LPT : Try to solve this problem again from scratch and refer back to this chat, or screen save it, as a reference.

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Okay thank you!

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$\lim_{x\rightarrow7}\left(\frac{18-\left[1-x\right]}{\left[x-3a\right]}\right)$

sharp smelt
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let this limit exist

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where [x] is teh floor function

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find a

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

sharp smelt
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$\lim_{x\rightarrow7^+}\left(\frac{18--7}{\left[7-3a\right]}\right)$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

sharp smelt
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$\lim_{x\rightarrow7^-}\left(\frac{18--6}{\left[7-3a\right]}\right)$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

sharp smelt
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these must be equal

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so I have to find an "a" such that

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$\lim_{x\rightarrow7^+}\frac{25}{\left[7-3a\right]}=\lim_{x\rightarrow7^-}\frac{24}{\left[7-3a\right]}$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=misery

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so I was thinking, if a=1

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or rather 2

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we have the right hand limit=25

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nah, that doesn't work

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I have to find a

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just a hint please

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but I think I'm close

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is it -6