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$\frac{d}{dx}\left(\arctan\right)=\frac{1}{x^{2}+1}$
water beam
have u seen this before?
u is x-3
water beam
are you happy with this?
yeah
water beam
now we have this
its starting to look like the derivative but we still have a 16 in the denominator
and we want a 1
any ideas of how we can get rid of it?
we want a 1?
u^2 + 4^2
well thats technically not wrong but it doesnt help much
what we can do is
factor out something from the denominator
can you think of what we can factor out?
16
when we do something like this we actually have to square root it
then factor it out
so really we take $\frac{1}{\sqrt{16}}$ out
water beam
but do you see what happens to u^2 when we do this?
It becomes u^-2
not quite
if we take out a factor of sqrt(16), then there must also be a sqrt(16) somewhere in u^2 right?
Not sure
water beam
because if we took out a factor of 1/sqrt(16), there must also be a sqrt(16) inside of u to keep it the same
Right
$\frac{7}{\sqrt{16}}\int_{ }^{ }\frac{1}{\left(\frac{u}{\sqrt{16}}\right)^{2}+1}du$
water beam
Yes
do you see what to do here now
water beam
which simplifies to 7/4 which is multiplied to the integral
makes sense
$\frac{7}{\sqrt{16}}\int_{ }^{ }\frac{1}{\left(\frac{u}{\sqrt{16}}\right)^{2}+1}du=\frac{7}{4}\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x-3}{4}\right)+C$
water beam
yeah when you do more problems like these
you start to get a feel of what to do
just practice
no problem
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I need to find the area if a triangle that is inscribed in a circle with a radius of 2 and we know that the triangles two angles are pi/3 and pi/4
Use law of sine
If a triangle is inscribed in a circle, the said circle is called“circumcircle”
Denote the radius of circumcircle by R
We have
a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC = 2R
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I don't know how to do this
I would rewrite it
as tan(2x)*tan^(2)(2x)
then use the pythagorean identity on tan^(2)(2x) and split into two integrals
you can't split an integral at multiplication
that is not what I meant
Oh
distribute the tan(2x) back through
and then split the integral
at the subtraction
Ok
change sec^2 (2x) to tan^2 (2x) + 1 ??
or
could I apply if I separate a sec from the sec and tan
i dont know
du could be sec^2 (2x)
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Anyone ?
Use Vieta’s formula
If p(x)=ax^2+bx+c has roots n,m
then
n + m = -b/a
n * m = c/a
Show your work
This is only for the general case
In your question
p(x)= ax^2+abcx+bc
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how is A,B,D true? I dont understand how this graph is continous nor fa = 0, or how it can be a jump discontinuity
The question does not make sense. Most likely the person created had no clue what they were doing
What about this one? is g differentialble because its the graph of g prime?
if it had to be corrected, which would be the only right answer?, i was assuming e...
yep
A, B, C, E are false, Only D is true
can you clarify why that is? I was only under the impression that corners were indifferentaible
how come it is a jump when both dots are holes?
sharp points are not differentiable when we are dealing with functions. So g' is not fully differetiable but g is.
I will need to take a look at a rigorous definition of jump continuity. I guess it will depend on how you want to define it.
I was also wondering for this question. What exactly is a tangent paralle tot a secant line
??What exactly is a tangent paralle tot a secant line
sorry i meant the sentence at the end of the question, stating if the tangent to the curve parallel to the secant line on that interval
I was thinking it looked something like this but i honeslty dont know what im doing
So do you want to know what tangent and secant are?
yes, isnt a tanget line that hits one point and a secant that hits 2 points?
like instantaous rate of change and average rate of cahnge
A tangent touches a point on the graph. So we can say that line is a tangent to graph at x = XYZ
A secant cuts a graph. In others hits 2 point has you mentioned
then what does it mean by parrallel in that sentence
If two lines are parallel they have the same gradient. If they have same gradient they will never intersect with each other.
oh i think i confused parrallel and perpendiculart
then one last question regarding this question. If the lines never intersect how are they allowed to make the secant line = to the tangent to solve the equation
is it because they are like the same line with the same slope because they are parral and they are very close together?
We are not doing that make the secant line = to the tangent to solve the equation" What we are doing trying to do is make the gradients the same. If we do that they will be parallel
You might remember solving systems of linear equations
E.g., 2x + 1 = y, and 2x + 2 = y
If you tried solving the system above you will have a contadiction.
This means there is no x, y value where both equations hold, hence they don't intersect with each other
ok that makes more sense
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i cant get this question right
i keep getting 1
at the red part
after i sub in pi
There should be more info to find the value of c
Could you post the original question?
You sure you got it?
sorry
Don't be
Np
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I saw a magic way to solve integral on a book, who named it "Chebyshev's Condition" but idk why it's true and how they get it
it says that the kind of indefinite integrals like ∫[(x^m)(a+bx^n)^p]dx can only be expressed by finite combinations of elementary functions when:
- p is integer
- (m+1)/n is integer, then use a+bx^n = z^s, s is the denominator of p
- (m+1)/n + p is integer, the use a*x^(-n)+b = z^s
it's rlly amazing, i had tested some integral and it's goddamn right, is there anyone who know this?
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why you gotta word it like I murdered someone bro
wait
my teacher said that's the right answer, but I didn't divide it by 2, like the question asked
yes
Well, 10^-3 is millicoulombs but that works
oh right
right so
proportionality
what
Fe = kq1q2/r^2
If the distance between the two is halved, then we can see that the denominator will be 1/4 the value it used to be
From there, you can deduce what the strength of Fe will be
alternatively, you can call the initial electric force strength Fe1 and halved distance one Fe2, which occur when the charges are separated by distances r1 and r2 respectively
where r2 = 0.5r1
if you divide Fe2 by Fe1, you can simplify and calculate what the relative strength between the two forces is
does this make sense?
then go with it
it doesn’t really matter how you choose to do it
as long as it makes sense
why did I not have to divide my final answer by 2? I'm really having a hard time understanding it
Why do you have to divide by 2?
because the question said so
where?
"if the distance seperation was halved"
the question is asking what the strength of the force would be if the distance was halved after the fact
No the question asked to note what will happen to the force if the distance was halved.
You don't need to do much actually
you can first calculate the electric force, then recalculate it with a distance that’s half the original amount, but it’s easier to just make the argument I did earlier
$F = \frac{kq_1q_2}{r^2}$
VulcanOne
Let's plug in R = r/2
so 1/2r²?
I don't understand sorry 😭
but this bit made sense
$\frac{kq_1 q_2}{\left(\frac 12 r\right)^2}$
$r/2 = \sqrt{\frac{kq_1q_2}{F_e}}$
why do i have to square both sides? I just took out the square on the left side before I got that
Hm
soo what now
$\frac{kq_1 q_2}{\frac 14 r^2}$
VulcanOne
No manipulate it such that you get a factor multiplied by the original Force
This is the original force
that's the part that I dont understand
Hmm
Alright let's try the equation you posted
$\frac r2 = \sqrt{\frac{kq_1q_2}{F_e}}$
this?
VulcanOne
Ye
okay
Solve for Fe
but why tho 😭 I thought we're looking for r
No we're looking for the effect of halving r
oh okay
Sorry to interrupt, I'm actually curious. Why should we divide the r by 2?
The question asked about the effect on the force if the r is divided by 2
Oh, i see. That's why
$F_e=\frac{kq_1q_2}{\frac{r^2}{4}}$
Simplify now
drutus
$F_e=\frac{4kq_1q_2}{r^2}$
Yepp
drutus
Notice now that there is 4 multiplied
okay
we multiplied the numerator by 4?
so in the question, there are two answers?
You will replace $\frac{kq_1 q_2}{r^2}$ by $F$, making it multiplied by 4.
VulcanOne
So the result of halving the distance is making the force 4 times bigger
ohh now I get it
Makes sense?

so the answer will be 127.28m and this?
and so basically the closer the 2 charges are, the stronger the force.
wait, I just discovered there's an answer key. It says here it's 127m and the electrostatic force will be doubled
but our answer states it is multiplied by 4
so is the module wrong then?
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what SI units are used in solving coulomb's law?
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no specific problem, I'm just preparing for a quiz
But what you asked does not make any sense.
Are you sure this is what you want to ask?
yea
actually how do I convert this into scientific form
0.000300
is it 3x10^-4 or 3x10^-6
@earnest stratus
sorry, I meant 0.0003009
so it is 10^-6?
For?
0.0003009
Then it won't be 3 * 10^{-6}
oh right, I get it now. I tried justifying my final answer on a problem but I just solved it wrong. thank you!
question. can all these SI units be paired with Coulomb?
like for ex, decaCoulomb (daC)?
I've only seen milli, micro and nano used for Coulomb
all of these can be used with coloumb, what you've seen is also what we normally use.
For example, if you're talking about charge in a capacitor you'll have micro coloumbs. But thrn if you're talking about charge of something like an e, it'll be 10^{-19} ish so you'd use zepto (which I didn't know was the term)
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This requires shell method yes?
Oh no... I'm stuck.
$V=\pi \int_0^4 2\pi x (x-4)dx$
🌸 Katsune
This is shell method but with rotation of x=0, not x=6.
How does the x=6 modify this?
you're no longer revolving about the y axis, so you need to adjust the entire equation by a certain quantity
the way I like to think about it is:
what can I do to my equation to get it to revolve around the y (or x) axis?
in this case, we need to subtract six
so:
f(x) - 6 = x - 4
we can solve for f(x), giving us
f(x) = x - 2
your f(x) function
Where is the f(x) function here?
well, what is the shell method formula?
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But either the x or the x-4 is not correct
I think
What is the right configuration?
yeah it's your x-4 that isn't correct
you just have to modify it how I did up there
and then it should be right
because we subtracted six
when we transform a function like that, we're basically trying to set the axis of rotation back to one of the two axes
either x or y
in this case, y
Yo so it's x+2 not x-2
This is f(x) = x+2
but that's basically the gist of how you deal with axes other than one of the regular ones
you have to put your transformation on the left of the equation
also i think you have an extra pi in there
Maybe someone can check correct me, but I think that's right
and if IIRC correctly, shell method is a bit different from other solids of revolution formulas cause you're integrating around the opposite axis than what you're rotating
in this problem, it doesn't really make much difference. But you could run into a problem where you need to isolate x or y for your equations and that could result in you integrating the wrong thing
I hate finding volume when the rotation is vertical
try and solve it now and see if it gives you the right answer
let's see your work
🌸 Katsune
alright well
you can either do integration by parts from here
or just distribute the terms
I'd distribute
$2\pi (\frac{x^3}{3}+x^2}) |^4_0$
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2pi(64/3 + 16)
hmm
224pi/3
show me the final set up for your integral before you integrated
I might know where the issue is
This isn't a hard integration at all
x(x+2)dx
x^2 + 2x dx
Thus
x^3 / 3 + x^2
Where is the problem ☠️
yeah it should be right
how did the online calc pull this out
Oh wait this is right okay
online calc made me think i should have entered x(x+2) for the function
this is correct for the function x+2
very nice
see bro, I should've just stayed lazy and assumed it was right in the first place 😤
yeah, it's just like the last problem
Okay, then what
then disc method
you can use shell for every problem
shell would be harder
but knowing when to use disk and washer makes your life easier
This is asking for a vertical rotation so why am I using disk when disk is for horizontal rotations
actually you can both of those methods for either rotation
method itself doesnt matter the rotation
it's just a matter of getting the equation and the integral set up correctly
Okay...
Disk method then ig
How am I supposed to do f(x) when x=y-y^3, it's with respect to y
so you integrate with dy
$V=\pi \int_{-1}^0 f(y)^2 dy$
same method but 90 degree rotated
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why -1~0?
Because you said to shift the entire graph left one
that's for x axis
x=y-y^3 is original right?
Yes
I mean you transformed left by 1
Shift graph left by one = transform left by 1
then x-1=y-y^3
And the limits of integration?
the interval is for rotation axis
same as this
you integrated from a to b on x axis, where x axis is the one you rotate around
Yes, I think so.
For your question it's for y. So 0 to 1 on y axis, where y axis is the one you rotate around
I don't understand. Please show me how it should look like.
I will understand way better from replication. I don't understand theory discussion that well.
$\int_{0}^{1}{\pi f^2(y)dy}$
Dri111
Okay so thte limits of integration do NOT change, but the f(y) does change?
yes
$V=\pi \int_{0}^1 f(y)^2 dy$
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Where f(y) = x=y-y^3 -1
yes
🌸 Katsune
As you're aware of interval I think it is right
Why did the limits of integration not change?
It should have been -1 to 0 since the graph was shifted left.
because we didnt transformed the graph in y axis
we moved left, not up or down
Wtf. So the limits of integration are just looking at the y not the x?
if you are rotating it for y axis yes
if that is hard to take
then just think the interval after moving the graph
like this
I got | -17pi/21 |
,w integrate pi*(x-x^3-1)^2 from 0 to 1
idk how you calculated the integral
but it looks like that's actually not the right answer
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$\int_0^1(y^2-y^6-1)dy$
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Is it supposed to be all positives
Don't be so coy, you can tell me the polarity is wrong
Oh crap
I just realize this is a trinomial squared
I put in the calculator and it's right lmao
121pi/210
I think that's the right answer
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Hey there, I got a physics test in a week and theres this question I don't understand exactly how to solve:
"A steel pipe must support 10 kN in a building structure. The inner diameter of the pipe must be 20 mm (due to the installation of electrical wires). Dimension pipes for a permissible stress of 60 N/mm^2"
So I started with defining diameter x and diameter y
dx = 20 + dy
(3.14*(dx)^2)/4 = dy
I'm wondering whether this is wrong? It seems logical to me because we want 20 + something we need to decide and to get the thing we want we put it through a geometric formula
btw when I try solving it I don't get the correct answer but it's very close
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how do i solve this?
what have you tried
i know that i can use the inclusion-exclusion principle and when the question is asking for "at least" its usually subtracting?
so its c) but im not sure with the values being used
thats what im trying to figure out. How do i come up with 2^n - 2^n/2
ok
so 2^n is the number of subsets of S
you want the number of subsets of S with at least one even number
so what would the opposite of that be
what does 2 represent?
so
if you have a set with n elements
then for each of the elements
they can either be in a given subset, or not
so 2 possibilities
ahh
so there are 2^n possible subsets of a set with n elements
and the subset has to be even values?
right
here's a hint
no even values
the number of subsets with at least one even value
right
what's another way to say that a subset has no even values
in terms of?
?
ok fill in the blank
if none of the elements of a subset are even
then all of the elements of a subset are: ___
odd
right
so then you can say
the number of subsets with at least one even value
is equal to: the number of subsets (2^n)
minus the number of subsets with all odd values
so you should try to find that
hmm
if you have n elements in a set and you divdide them by 2 you should get odd numbers
ok i got it. thanks
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Medians of the triagnle are 3cm 4cm and 5cm i need to find the area
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the medians of a triangle split it into six smaller triangles, if you draw it
it turns out that all of those triangles have the same area
you can try to prove that
draw a diagram to start and then mess around with it
The median split the side in 2 equal parts right
And medians split each other 2:1
That effects all the triangles right
?
@edgy stone
You can easily find it using this
(The question there was what is the ratio of the are of triangle formed by the 3 medians to the area of the triangle ABC)
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The original equation is at the top
we have to simplify it
but im confused on whats the common denominator for the bottom two.... (because theyre opposites soooo)
you can cancel out the (a + 3)
you’ll just be left with -2
but u cant cancel out when adding and substracting rational expressions
and either way thats wrong because I know the answer
Oh wait my bad
this is the answer for the question
but when you factor 3-2a you get -2(a-3)
I read it as multiplication lol
are you sure about that first step
I’m doing this on paper gimme a second lol
well shouldnt the variable come first?
thats what the tecaher told us idk
in the first fraction, how are you just adding that bracket
you cant?
factor 3-2a into -(2a-3)
2a - 3 is not the same as 2(a - 3) as far as im aware
oh
wait
opops
no but
you can factor out the negatives
bring - to top
omg
yes
doesn’t quite match though
the denominator
-5/2a-3 is the same as 5/3-2a
yeah that’s what I wrote
because if you bring the negative down : -(2a-3) = -2a +3 which is 3 - 2a
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I just wanna see if im on the right track, since a= -2/3, there will be a vertical stretch factor of 2/3 and a vertical reflection?
And is my writing correct? Was I supposed to factor out the -2?
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Okay scrap the stuff above, can someone double check if everything on here is correct? I just gotta graph the g(x) which is gonna be a alot
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shouldn’t be hard to graph u just move it over and make it smaller
there’s no horizontal reflection correct?
So there’s both a vertical and horizontal reflection?
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I'm blind... where is I in the equations?
no im plotting the point
the lighting is terrible lol i’ll send a better one hold up
No, I can see the whole thing
I'm just trying to find the reference point in the equation that you're trying to graph
im trying to graph the new function. the og is the the points labeled I, II, III and IV
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yeah im just wondering if I plotted I’ (I prime) correctly
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i need help
did u see example 3
you just write it as a product of two factors
hmm? things?
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can you show your work
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so in 34 , you have two rectangles , and those expressions are their areas
you have to determine sides
one side is common between the two
so you have to take the common factor as the vertical length of both rectangles
and then determine horizontal lengths accordingly
haan to woh hogi na , woh seedhi waali side hogii
which is common in both
divide 💀
so its
5ab(2ab^2+3b+4a)
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kya hua
its 2 years ahead of my level
fir kyu gand mra rha
itna to kaafi hain na
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nahi be , 5ab is one side and the remaining is the other side
tumhe side ki length nikalni hain
area ka formula hota hain lb
so ek l hain aur dusra b
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Sorry for the vertical
When factoring this, I’m turning it into a somewhat simple trinomial form, but I am having trouble knowing where how am I supposed to find my multiplication/addition combo for what b(-3) and c(1), I tried using a chat to explain and it instead used did a combo for 2x and -3x
One sec my dum brain trying to figure out how what u said works so I can try it rq
2x^2 - 2x - x +1
2x(x - 1) - 1(x- 1)
(2x-1)(x-1)
,rccw
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Where did start this from in my current progression?
im just solving hte bionomial
rewriting the trinomial
not disturbing the 2x outside
Simple trinomial form would be like #x^2 + #x + # though right? I don’t understand what it turns into when you rewrote it sorry
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so when you equate the equation to 0
you can divide both sides by 2x
and you get a solution
there is a binomial remaining
when you solve the binomial you get the other 2 solutions
One sec just processing, might be reading too into it in just trying to make sense of it rq
Is this what you said? Sorry just trying to relate this rq
Ok cool
Ok thanks, i know it makes sense, but for some reason i can’t understand how 2x (2x^2 - 3x +1) turns into 2x [(2x^2 -2x -x +1)] but I’ll probably be fine, thanks for your help
in such binomials
its easy to factorize by using a technique called middle term splitting
im guessing you are not familiar with it
Not really
Alright
I’ll try to compare then and see the formula for middle term splitting
Thanks! (Post close, I just figured it out by just going backwards throughout your example, I feel kinda dumb but at least I know it now, rlly appreciate the help tho)
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find the number of seating arrangements in which eight people can sit around two identical circular tables (seating four on each table) if two particular people want to sit next to each other on a table, a second couple wish to sit at different tables and a third coiple wish to sit at the same table (but not necessarily together)
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do you need the answer? or the working?
absolutely no idea
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im just interesed in how to solve it normally (im not very good at combinatorics)
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ah yes jee advanced
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no two person sitting adjacent
so all colors
must be used
ummm
i dont think so
i dont have a doubt in this q
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i think you cant generalise
number cases matter
here 2 2 1 was the only case
💀 skill issue then
im thinking the same thing
there is probably some way tho
will probably be some really bad function in GIF and all
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$\int_{10}^{19} \frac{cos(x)dx}{1+x^8}$, find the range of this area
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.ie is it less than $10^{-7}$
Why am. I here
more, or something else
how would I even start
as this is neither increasing nor decreasing monotonically
I was thinking I could estimate the positive area in one cycle
and then multiply it by an appropriate factor
,w 10/3.14
So That's just below 1 cycle
this would thus be between 4 times the value of the function at 10
and 4 times that and 19
am I right?
,w value of cos(x)/(1+x^8) at x=10
,w cos(10)/(1+(10)^8)
,w 4(cos(10rad)/(1+10^8)
,w (19rad)/(1+19^8)
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,w what's the area under sin(x) from 0 to 3π
,w what's the area under cos(x)/(1+x^8) from 10 to 19
huh, could someone verify this for me?
is my logic correct?
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Yo
I have this problem
and i need to check the position of those
i already figured that they aer parallell like if i multiply the direction vektors they are 0
but now i need to do a point sample
but how?
What you've said makes no sense



