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midnight haven
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alr

wild fable
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$\frac{d}{dx}\left(\arctan\right)=\frac{1}{x^{2}+1}$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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have u seen this before?

midnight haven
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yes

wild fable
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ok good

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so we will make a u-substitution

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can u see what sub?

midnight haven
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u is x-3

wild fable
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yep

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$let\ u\ =x-3,\ dx=du$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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are you happy with this?

midnight haven
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yeah

wild fable
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okay

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$7\int_{ }^{ }\frac{1}{u^{2}+16}du$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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now we have this

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its starting to look like the derivative but we still have a 16 in the denominator

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and we want a 1

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any ideas of how we can get rid of it?

midnight haven
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we want a 1?

wild fable
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correct

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because we need u^2 + 1

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we currently have u^2 + 16

midnight haven
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u^2 + 4^2

wild fable
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well thats technically not wrong but it doesnt help much

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what we can do is

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factor out something from the denominator

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can you think of what we can factor out?

midnight haven
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16

wild fable
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when we do something like this we actually have to square root it

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then factor it out

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so really we take $\frac{1}{\sqrt{16}}$ out

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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but do you see what happens to u^2 when we do this?

midnight haven
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It becomes u^-2

wild fable
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not quite

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if we take out a factor of sqrt(16), then there must also be a sqrt(16) somewhere in u^2 right?

midnight haven
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Not sure

wild fable
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we are going to get this

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$\left(\frac{u}{\sqrt{16}}\right)^{2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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because if we took out a factor of 1/sqrt(16), there must also be a sqrt(16) inside of u to keep it the same

midnight haven
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Right

wild fable
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$\frac{7}{\sqrt{16}}\int_{ }^{ }\frac{1}{\left(\frac{u}{\sqrt{16}}\right)^{2}+1}du$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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Hence we have this

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does this make sense

midnight haven
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Yes

wild fable
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do you see what to do here now

midnight haven
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is that right?

wild fable
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how did you get 7 times sqrt(16)?

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we have $\frac{7}{\sqrt{16}}$ remember

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

midnight haven
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oh

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it would be 7 / sqrt(16)

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so 7/4 is the constant

wild fable
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which simplifies to 7/4 which is multiplied to the integral

midnight haven
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makes sense

wild fable
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$\frac{7}{\sqrt{16}}\int_{ }^{ }\frac{1}{\left(\frac{u}{\sqrt{16}}\right)^{2}+1}du=\frac{7}{4}\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x-3}{4}\right)+C$

jolly parrotBOT
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water beam

wild fable
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but yeah

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this is the final answer

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you get it?

midnight haven
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Yes

wild fable
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yes

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good job

midnight haven
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that was tough

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thank you so much

wild fable
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yeah when you do more problems like these

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you start to get a feel of what to do

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just practice

wild fable
midnight haven
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how do i close

wild fable
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type .close

midnight haven
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ok

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.close

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I need to find the area if a triangle that is inscribed in a circle with a radius of 2 and we know that the triangles two angles are pi/3 and pi/4

nocturne siren
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Use law of sine

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Wym how?

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Idk the sides

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dusky scaffold
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hmmm interesting problem

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draw a diagram

nocturne siren
# frosty badge Wym how?

If a triangle is inscribed in a circle, the said circle is called“circumcircle”
Denote the radius of circumcircle by R
We have
a/sinA = b/sinB = c/sinC = 2R

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midnight haven
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I don't know how to do this

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last summit
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I would rewrite it

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as tan(2x)*tan^(2)(2x)

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then use the pythagorean identity on tan^(2)(2x) and split into two integrals

midnight haven
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kk

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How could I solve the left integral

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?

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wait

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1/2 tan(2x) - x

last summit
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woah

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stop

last summit
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that is not what I meant

midnight haven
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Oh

last summit
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distribute the tan(2x) back through

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and then split the integral

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at the subtraction

midnight haven
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Ok

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change sec^2 (2x) to tan^2 (2x) + 1 ??

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or

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could I apply if I separate a sec from the sec and tan

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i dont know

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du could be sec^2 (2x)

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midnight haven
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midnight haven
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Anyone ?

nocturne siren
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Use Vieta’s formula

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If p(x)=ax^2+bx+c has roots n,m
then
n + m = -b/a
n * m = c/a

midnight haven
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Even if I use vieta's formula

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It is not matching any of the options

nocturne siren
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Show your work

midnight haven
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midnight haven
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Oh

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Thanks

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pure terrace
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how is A,B,D true? I dont understand how this graph is continous nor fa = 0, or how it can be a jump discontinuity

vivid grove
pure terrace
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What about this one? is g differentialble because its the graph of g prime?

pure terrace
vivid grove
pure terrace
# vivid grove yep

can you clarify why that is? I was only under the impression that corners were indifferentaible

pure terrace
vivid grove
vivid grove
pure terrace
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I was also wondering for this question. What exactly is a tangent paralle tot a secant line

vivid grove
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??What exactly is a tangent paralle tot a secant line

pure terrace
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sorry i meant the sentence at the end of the question, stating if the tangent to the curve parallel to the secant line on that interval

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I was thinking it looked something like this but i honeslty dont know what im doing

vivid grove
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So do you want to know what tangent and secant are?

pure terrace
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yes, isnt a tanget line that hits one point and a secant that hits 2 points?

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like instantaous rate of change and average rate of cahnge

vivid grove
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A secant cuts a graph. In others hits 2 point has you mentioned

pure terrace
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then what does it mean by parrallel in that sentence

vivid grove
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If two lines are parallel they have the same gradient. If they have same gradient they will never intersect with each other.

pure terrace
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oh i think i confused parrallel and perpendiculart

pure terrace
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is it because they are like the same line with the same slope because they are parral and they are very close together?

vivid grove
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We are not doing that make the secant line = to the tangent to solve the equation" What we are doing trying to do is make the gradients the same. If we do that they will be parallel

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You might remember solving systems of linear equations

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E.g., 2x + 1 = y, and 2x + 2 = y

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If you tried solving the system above you will have a contadiction.

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This means there is no x, y value where both equations hold, hence they don't intersect with each other

pure terrace
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ok that makes more sense

vivid grove
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pure terrace
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hybrid haven
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hybrid haven
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i cant get this question right

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i keep getting 1

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at the red part

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after i sub in pi

stoic path
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There should be more info to find the value of c

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Could you post the original question?

hybrid haven
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ok

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oh wait im fucking dumb

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i get it now

stoic path
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You sure you got it?

hybrid haven
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sorry

stoic path
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Don't be

hybrid haven
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yeah f(x)=2 since y=2

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f(pi)*

stoic path
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Yeah

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Alr then

hybrid haven
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is that why

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im supposed to sub in both at the same time right

stoic path
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x=pi and y=2?

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Yes

hybrid haven
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ohh okay

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i get oit now

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thank you

stoic path
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Np

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strong glade
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I saw a magic way to solve integral on a book, who named it "Chebyshev's Condition" but idk why it's true and how they get it
it says that the kind of indefinite integrals like ∫[(x^m)(a+bx^n)^p]dx can only be expressed by finite combinations of elementary functions when:

  1. p is integer
  2. (m+1)/n is integer, then use a+bx^n = z^s, s is the denominator of p
  3. (m+1)/n + p is integer, the use a*x^(-n)+b = z^s
    it's rlly amazing, i had tested some integral and it's goddamn right, is there anyone who know this?
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frail summit
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prime bramble
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what have you done?

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also, does mC mean microcoulomb?

frail summit
prime bramble
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my bad lmao

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I meant what progress have you made?

frail summit
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wait

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my teacher said that's the right answer, but I didn't divide it by 2, like the question asked

frail summit
prime bramble
frail summit
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oh right

frail summit
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what

prime bramble
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Fe = kq1q2/r^2

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If the distance between the two is halved, then we can see that the denominator will be 1/4 the value it used to be

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From there, you can deduce what the strength of Fe will be

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alternatively, you can call the initial electric force strength Fe1 and halved distance one Fe2, which occur when the charges are separated by distances r1 and r2 respectively

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where r2 = 0.5r1

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if you divide Fe2 by Fe1, you can simplify and calculate what the relative strength between the two forces is

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does this make sense?

frail summit
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the first explanation was easier to understand

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but uhm

prime bramble
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it doesn’t really matter how you choose to do it

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as long as it makes sense

frail summit
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why did I not have to divide my final answer by 2? I'm really having a hard time understanding it

prime bramble
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Why do you have to divide by 2?

frail summit
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because the question said so

prime bramble
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where?

frail summit
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"if the distance seperation was halved"

prime bramble
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the question is asking what the strength of the force would be if the distance was halved after the fact

late moon
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No the question asked to note what will happen to the force if the distance was halved.

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You don't need to do much actually

prime bramble
late moon
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$F = \frac{kq_1q_2}{r^2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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VulcanOne

late moon
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Let's plug in R = r/2

frail summit
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so 1/2r²?

late moon
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Why didn't you square the (1/2)?

frail summit
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I don't understand sorry 😭

frail summit
late moon
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$\frac{kq_1 q_2}{\left(\frac 12 r\right)^2}$

frail summit
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$r/2 = \sqrt{\frac{kq_1q_2}{F_e}}$

jolly parrotBOT
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drutus

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VulcanOne

late moon
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What do you get?

frail summit
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why do i have to square both sides? I just took out the square on the left side before I got that

late moon
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Hm

frail summit
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soo what now

late moon
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$\frac{kq_1 q_2}{\frac 14 r^2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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VulcanOne

frail summit
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okay

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and solve for r?

late moon
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No manipulate it such that you get a factor multiplied by the original Force

late moon
frail summit
late moon
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Hmm

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Alright let's try the equation you posted

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$\frac r2 = \sqrt{\frac{kq_1q_2}{F_e}}$

frail summit
jolly parrotBOT
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VulcanOne

late moon
frail summit
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okay

late moon
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Solve for Fe

frail summit
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but why tho 😭 I thought we're looking for r

late moon
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No we're looking for the effect of halving r

frail summit
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oh okay

spice jay
late moon
frail summit
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$F_e=\frac{kq_1q_2}{\frac{r^2}{4}}$

late moon
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Simplify now

jolly parrotBOT
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drutus

frail summit
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$F_e=\frac{4kq_1q_2}{r^2}$

late moon
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Yepp

jolly parrotBOT
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drutus

late moon
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Notice now that there is 4 multiplied

frail summit
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okay

late moon
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What do you notice?

frail summit
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we multiplied the numerator by 4?

late moon
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Yeah

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If you match both equations one to one

frail summit
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so in the question, there are two answers?

late moon
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You will replace $\frac{kq_1 q_2}{r^2}$ by $F$, making it multiplied by 4.

jolly parrotBOT
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VulcanOne

late moon
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So the result of halving the distance is making the force 4 times bigger

frail summit
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ohh now I get it

late moon
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Makes sense?

late moon
frail summit
frail summit
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wait, I just discovered there's an answer key. It says here it's 127m and the electrostatic force will be doubled

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but our answer states it is multiplied by 4

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so is the module wrong then?

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sick flame
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what SI units are used in solving coulomb's law?

earnest stratus
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What's the exact problem?

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sick flame
earnest stratus
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Are you sure this is what you want to ask?

sick flame
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yea

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actually how do I convert this into scientific form

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0.000300

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is it 3x10^-4 or 3x10^-6

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@earnest stratus

earnest stratus
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Former.

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Because 0.000300 = 0.0003

sick flame
earnest stratus
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Don't reply ping.

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Or any type of ping.

sick flame
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oh sorry lol

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so like

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does it make a difference

earnest stratus
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Yes, very.

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0.0003009 is not the same as 0.000300

sick flame
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so it is 10^-6?

earnest stratus
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For?

sick flame
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0.0003009

earnest stratus
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Then it won't be 3 * 10^{-6}

sick flame
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oh right, I get it now. I tried justifying my final answer on a problem but I just solved it wrong. thank you!

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question. can all these SI units be paired with Coulomb?

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like for ex, decaCoulomb (daC)?

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I've only seen milli, micro and nano used for Coulomb

earnest stratus
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all of these can be used with coloumb, what you've seen is also what we normally use.
For example, if you're talking about charge in a capacitor you'll have micro coloumbs. But thrn if you're talking about charge of something like an e, it'll be 10^{-19} ish so you'd use zepto (which I didn't know was the term)

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okay, thank you so much! and I sincerely apologize for the unnecessary pings.

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Da Mucky Boi

merry python
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that means d | m, right?

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maybe have a look at the factorization of 2023

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This requires shell method yes?

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Oh no... I'm stuck.

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$V=\pi \int_0^4 2\pi x (x-4)dx$

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🌸 Katsune

shrewd schooner
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This is shell method but with rotation of x=0, not x=6.

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How does the x=6 modify this?

quiet whale
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the way I like to think about it is:
what can I do to my equation to get it to revolve around the y (or x) axis?

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in this case, we need to subtract six

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so:
f(x) - 6 = x - 4

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we can solve for f(x), giving us
f(x) = x - 2

shrewd schooner
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:u

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What do I need to change?

quiet whale
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your f(x) function

shrewd schooner
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Where is the f(x) function here?

quiet whale
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well, what is the shell method formula?

shrewd schooner
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It was my understanding shell formula is:

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$v=\pi \int_c^d 2\pi y g(y) dy$

jolly parrotBOT
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🌸 Katsune

shrewd schooner
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But either the x or the x-4 is not correct

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I think

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What is the right configuration?

quiet whale
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yeah it's your x-4 that isn't correct

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you just have to modify it how I did up there

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and then it should be right

shrewd schooner
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Why would it be 2pi(x)(x-2)

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When the axis of rotation is x=6

quiet whale
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because we subtracted six

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when we transform a function like that, we're basically trying to set the axis of rotation back to one of the two axes

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either x or y

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in this case, y

shrewd schooner
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Yo so it's x+2 not x-2

shrewd schooner
quiet whale
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did I say x - 2?

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my bad, should've been x + 2

shrewd schooner
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You said x-2, mister~

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Haha

quiet whale
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but that's basically the gist of how you deal with axes other than one of the regular ones

quiet whale
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you have to put your transformation on the left of the equation

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also i think you have an extra pi in there

shrewd schooner
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y = x because the curve line is y=x

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and g(y) is f(x) - 6 = x - 4

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thus x+2

quiet whale
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Maybe someone can check correct me, but I think that's right

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and if IIRC correctly, shell method is a bit different from other solids of revolution formulas cause you're integrating around the opposite axis than what you're rotating

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in this problem, it doesn't really make much difference. But you could run into a problem where you need to isolate x or y for your equations and that could result in you integrating the wrong thing

shrewd schooner
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I hate finding volume when the rotation is vertical

quiet whale
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try and solve it now and see if it gives you the right answer

shrewd schooner
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128pi/3

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Idk if that's right tho I can't chcek it

quiet whale
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we're gonna assume it is

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cause I'm too lazy to check it

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nice work

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👍

shrewd schooner
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nah this isn't right

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An online calc is telling me it's x^2 (x+2) dx

quiet whale
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let's see your work

shrewd schooner
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oml

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$\pi \int_0^4 2 x (x+2)dx$

jolly parrotBOT
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🌸 Katsune

quiet whale
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alright well

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you can either do integration by parts from here

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or just distribute the terms

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I'd distribute

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$2\pi (\frac{x^3}{3}+x^2}) |^4_0$

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shrewd schooner
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2pi(64/3 + 16)

quiet whale
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hmm

shrewd schooner
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224pi/3

quiet whale
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show me the final set up for your integral before you integrated

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I might know where the issue is

shrewd schooner
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This isn't a hard integration at all

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x(x+2)dx

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x^2 + 2x dx

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Thus

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x^3 / 3 + x^2

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Where is the problem ☠️

quiet whale
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yeah it should be right

quiet whale
shrewd schooner
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Oh wait this is right okay

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online calc made me think i should have entered x(x+2) for the function

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this is correct for the function x+2

quiet whale
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very nice

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see bro, I should've just stayed lazy and assumed it was right in the first place 😤

shrewd schooner
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Does anyone know how to solve this one >_<

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Rotation about x=1

jolly shuttle
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move the graph to left by 1

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would be easier

quiet whale
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yeah, it's just like the last problem

shrewd schooner
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Okay, then what

jolly shuttle
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then disc method

shrewd schooner
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This is another Shells ?

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oml disc

quiet whale
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you can use shell for every problem

jolly shuttle
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shell would be harder

quiet whale
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but knowing when to use disk and washer makes your life easier

shrewd schooner
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This is asking for a vertical rotation so why am I using disk when disk is for horizontal rotations

quiet whale
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actually you can both of those methods for either rotation

jolly shuttle
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method itself doesnt matter the rotation

quiet whale
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it's just a matter of getting the equation and the integral set up correctly

shrewd schooner
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Okay...

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Disk method then ig

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How am I supposed to do f(x) when x=y-y^3, it's with respect to y

jolly shuttle
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so you integrate with dy

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$V=\pi \int_{-1}^0 f(y)^2 dy$

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same method but 90 degree rotated

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why -1~0?

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Because you said to shift the entire graph left one

jolly shuttle
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that's for x axis

shrewd schooner
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Thus the enclosed area is now between x=-1 and x-0

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tf?

jolly shuttle
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x=y-y^3 is original right?

shrewd schooner
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Yes

jolly shuttle
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I mean you transformed left by 1

shrewd schooner
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Shift graph left by one = transform left by 1

jolly shuttle
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then x-1=y-y^3

jolly shuttle
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srry mistake

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x+1=y-y^3

shrewd schooner
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And the limits of integration?

jolly shuttle
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I do not understand, what is the correct limit of integration?

jolly shuttle
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you integrated from a to b on x axis, where x axis is the one you rotate around

shrewd schooner
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Yes, I think so.

jolly shuttle
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For your question it's for y. So 0 to 1 on y axis, where y axis is the one you rotate around

shrewd schooner
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I don't understand. Please show me how it should look like.

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I will understand way better from replication. I don't understand theory discussion that well.

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$\int_{0}^{1}{\pi f^2(y)dy}$

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Dri111

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Okay so thte limits of integration do NOT change, but the f(y) does change?

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yes

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$V=\pi \int_{0}^1 f(y)^2 dy$

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Where f(y) = x=y-y^3 -1

jolly shuttle
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yes

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$V=\pi \int_{0}^1 (y-y^3-1)^2 dy$

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This is the correct integral?

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OML

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As you're aware of interval I think it is right

jolly shuttle
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you can

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it's just lot of work

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Why did the limits of integration not change?

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It should have been -1 to 0 since the graph was shifted left.

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because we didnt transformed the graph in y axis

shrewd schooner
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Why is it 0 to 1? The graph is not there anymore.

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☠️ How is that possible

jolly shuttle
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we moved left, not up or down

shrewd schooner
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Wtf. So the limits of integration are just looking at the y not the x?

jolly shuttle
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if you are rotating it for y axis yes

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if that is hard to take

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then just think the interval after moving the graph

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like this

shrewd schooner
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I got | -17pi/21 |

jolly shuttle
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,w integrate pi*(x-x^3-1)^2 from 0 to 1

jolly shuttle
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idk how you calculated the integral

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but it looks like that's actually not the right answer

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Nvm I did it on my calculator and it is correct

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$\int_0^1 (y-y^3-1)^2dy$

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$\int_0^1(y^2-y^6-1)dy$

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🌸 Katsune

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umm

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i dont think those two are equal

shrewd schooner
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Is it supposed to be all positives

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Don't be so coy, you can tell me the polarity is wrong

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Oh crap

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I just realize this is a trinomial squared

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I put in the calculator and it's right lmao

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121pi/210

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I think that's the right answer

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.close ty btw :3

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how do i solve this?

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right

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so what would you be subtracting

waxen sequoia
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so its c) but im not sure with the values being used

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ok

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so 2^n is the number of subsets of S

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you want the number of subsets of S with at least one even number

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so what would the opposite of that be

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so

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if you have a set with n elements

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then for each of the elements

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they can either be in a given subset, or not

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so 2 possibilities

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ahh

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so there are 2^n possible subsets of a set with n elements

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and the subset has to be even values?

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the subset has to have at least one even value

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ok so

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right

edgy stone
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here's a hint

waxen sequoia
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the number of subsets with at least one even value

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right

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what's another way to say that a subset has no even values

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in terms of?

edgy stone
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?

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ok fill in the blank

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if none of the elements of a subset are even
then all of the elements of a subset are: ___

waxen sequoia
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odd

edgy stone
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right

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so then you can say

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the number of subsets with at least one even value

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is equal to: the number of subsets (2^n)

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minus the number of subsets with all odd values

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so you should try to find that

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hmm

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if you have n elements in a set and you divdide them by 2 you should get odd numbers

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ok i got it. thanks

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Medians of the triagnle are 3cm 4cm and 5cm i need to find the area

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Idk where to start

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<@&286206848099549185>

edgy stone
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it turns out that all of those triangles have the same area

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you can try to prove that

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draw a diagram to start and then mess around with it

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Drew it

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@edgy stone

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ok

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now try and prove that all those triangles have the same area

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and that'll help

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The median split the side in 2 equal parts right

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And medians split each other 2:1

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That effects all the triangles right

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?

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@edgy stone

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try that

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(The question there was what is the ratio of the are of triangle formed by the 3 medians to the area of the triangle ABC)

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The original equation is at the top

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we have to simplify it

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but im confused on whats the common denominator for the bottom two.... (because theyre opposites soooo)

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you’ll just be left with -2

torpid cosmos
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but u cant cancel out when adding and substracting rational expressions

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and either way thats wrong because I know the answer

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Oh wait my bad

torpid cosmos
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this is the answer for the question

granite wyvern
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I read it as multiplication lol

neat harbor
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are you sure about that first step

hollow rose
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I’m doing this on paper gimme a second lol

torpid cosmos
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thats what the tecaher told us idk

neat harbor
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in the first fraction, how are you just adding that bracket

torpid cosmos
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idk i just did

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🥲

neat harbor
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you cant?

granite wyvern
neat harbor
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2a - 3 is not the same as 2(a - 3) as far as im aware

granite wyvern
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so it becomes a+3/-(2a-3)

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then you can make it -(a+3)/(2a-3)

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wait

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opops

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no but

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granite wyvern
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bring - to top

torpid cosmos
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omg

neat harbor
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did I make a mistake somewhere

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oh

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yeah I did

granite wyvern
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-3

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should be -5

neat harbor
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is that right?

granite wyvern
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yes

neat harbor
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the denominator

granite wyvern
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-5/2a-3 is the same as 5/3-2a

neat harbor
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yeah that’s what I wrote

granite wyvern
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because if you bring the negative down : -(2a-3) = -2a +3 which is 3 - 2a

neat harbor
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so?

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my solution still doesn’t match up

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also thats exactly what I did

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wdym

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your solution is correct

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its just written differently

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ohhhh

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I didn’t notice the - in the numerator of the solution

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my bad

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I just wanna see if im on the right track, since a= -2/3, there will be a vertical stretch factor of 2/3 and a vertical reflection?

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And is my writing correct? Was I supposed to factor out the -2?

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Okay scrap the stuff above, can someone double check if everything on here is correct? I just gotta graph the g(x) which is gonna be a alot

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shouldn’t be hard to graph u just move it over and make it smaller

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there’s no horizontal reflection correct?

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there is

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because -2x

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So there’s both a vertical and horizontal reflection?

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yes

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Alright, that’s all thank you!

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I'm blind... where is I in the equations?

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no im plotting the point

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the lighting is terrible lol i’ll send a better one hold up

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No, I can see the whole thing

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I'm just trying to find the reference point in the equation that you're trying to graph

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im trying to graph the new function. the og is the the points labeled I, II, III and IV

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OH.. Roman Numeral I

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Got it

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I was looking for a variable, lol

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lol

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i need help

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how do you do these?

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and these

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(evens)

snow sail
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did u see example 3

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yes

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wait hol up ima reread it

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yh

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idk how to do it still

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@snow sail

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you just write it as a product of two factors

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???

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wdym

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factor the expression into 2 factors

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those are your side lengths

robust quail
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yh but

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how do i find

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the things for the top

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hmm? things?

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bro idk how to do it

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HELP

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so in 34 , you have two rectangles , and those expressions are their areas
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one side is common between the two

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so you have to take the common factor as the vertical length of both rectangles

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and then determine horizontal lengths accordingly

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ok

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wait

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so the common factor is 5

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ab

midnight haven
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arey nahi re

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im talking about 34

robust quail
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oh

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yeah

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its 3xy

midnight haven
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haan to woh hogi na , woh seedhi waali side hogii
which is common in both

robust quail
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how i find the horizontal lengths

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from it

midnight haven
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divide 💀

robust quail
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so its

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9xy^2 / 3xy

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12x^2y^3 / 3xy

robust quail
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5ab(2ab^2+3b+4a)

midnight haven
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haan

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so 5ab ek side

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aur baki dusri side

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bkl kis class mein ho

robust quail
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alg

midnight haven
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alg matlab

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💀

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hogaya kya doubt solve

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bro

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kya hua

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its 2 years ahead of my level

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fir kyu gand mra rha

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cause

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im in 7th

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discord uninstall karo

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im 13

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alar

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tharki uncle rehte hain yaha

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chute hain wo

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dur rho

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nah

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i only talk to friends

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and other people who help

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she/her 💀

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wait

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so 5ab(2ab^2+3b+4a)

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is answer?

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nahi be , 5ab is one side and the remaining is the other side

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tumhe side ki length nikalni hain

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area ka formula hota hain lb

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so ek l hain aur dusra b

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a

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close kardo if youre done

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Sorry for the vertical

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break the middle term into -2x and -x

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then factorize hte binomial in brackets

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When factoring this, I’m turning it into a somewhat simple trinomial form, but I am having trouble knowing where how am I supposed to find my multiplication/addition combo for what b(-3) and c(1), I tried using a chat to explain and it instead used did a combo for 2x and -3x

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One sec my dum brain trying to figure out how what u said works so I can try it rq

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2x^2 - 2x - x +1
2x(x - 1) - 1(x- 1)
(2x-1)(x-1)

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,rccw

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YO WHAT

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U CAN DO THAT?

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not disturbing the 2x outside

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Simple trinomial form would be like #x^2 + #x + # though right? I don’t understand what it turns into when you rewrote it sorry

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yes

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so when you equate the equation to 0

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there is a binomial remaining

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when you solve the binomial you get the other 2 solutions

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One sec just processing, might be reading too into it in just trying to make sense of it rq

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Is this what you said? Sorry just trying to relate this rq

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bingo

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equate each factor to 0 to get the 3 solutions

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Ok cool

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Ok thanks, i know it makes sense, but for some reason i can’t understand how 2x (2x^2 - 3x +1) turns into 2x [(2x^2 -2x -x +1)] but I’ll probably be fine, thanks for your help

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in such binomials

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its easy to factorize by using a technique called middle term splitting

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im guessing you are not familiar with it

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Not really

final hound
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you can use the quadratic formula if you want

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gives you the same answers

lone pier
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Alright

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I’ll try to compare then and see the formula for middle term splitting

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Thanks! (Post close, I just figured it out by just going backwards throughout your example, I feel kinda dumb but at least I know it now, rlly appreciate the help tho)

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find the number of seating arrangements in which eight people can sit around two identical circular tables (seating four on each table) if two particular people want to sit next to each other on a table, a second couple wish to sit at different tables and a third coiple wish to sit at the same table (but not necessarily together)

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do you need the answer? or the working?

hybrid axle
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working

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like wanna know how to solve

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absolutely no idea

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how to do this same question for n people and r colors

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not able to generalise

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im just interesed in how to solve it normally (im not very good at combinatorics)

little cypress
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normally is easy

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think of a few cases

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youll see a pattern

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@rare scaffold

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the fifth one makes it way harder for me because it just closes the loop

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ill try

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nope

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hi how can i help

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alrihgt

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The answer is 69

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💀 bro

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little cypress
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ignored twice oof

native gull
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ah yes jee advanced

little cypress
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generalising idk howto do

native gull
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no two person sitting adjacent

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so all colors

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must be used

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ummm

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3 hats of same color cant be used

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so

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the only combination

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2 2 1

little cypress
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i dont have a doubt in this q

native gull
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oh

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i think you cant generalise

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number cases matter

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here 2 2 1 was the only case

little cypress
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im thinking the same thing

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there is probably some way tho

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will probably be some really bad function in GIF and all

native gull
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cases gonna increase

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cant

little cypress
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hmm

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yea idk

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no

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$\int_{10}^{19} \frac{cos(x)dx}{1+x^8}$, find the range of this area

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Why am. I here

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.ie is it less than $10^{-7}$

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Why am. I here

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more, or something else

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how would I even start

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as this is neither increasing nor decreasing monotonically

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I was thinking I could estimate the positive area in one cycle

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and then multiply it by an appropriate factor

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,w 10/3.14

sharp smelt
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Ok, so we're starting at just over one cycle

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,w 19/3.14

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So That's just below 1 cycle

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this would thus be between 4 times the value of the function at 10

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and 4 times that and 19

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am I right?

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,w value of cos(x)/(1+x^8) at x=10

sharp smelt
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,w cos(10)/(1+(10)^8)

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,w 4(cos(10rad)/(1+10^8)

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,w (19rad)/(1+19^8)

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huh, so is it less than 10^{-7}?

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,w area under cos(x)/(1+x^8) from 10 rad to 19rad

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,w what's the area under sin(x) from 0 to 3π

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,w what's the area under cos(x)/(1+x^8) from 10 to 19

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huh, could someone verify this for me?

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Yo

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I have this problem

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and i need to check the position of those

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i already figured that they aer parallell like if i multiply the direction vektors they are 0

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but now i need to do a point sample

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but how?

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What you've said makes no sense