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sullen lion
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the homework website says its wrong over and over again
but i feel its right cuz ive reworked this like at least 5 times now...

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alr alr ty

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imma have to talk to my teacher then

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tulip leaf
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Hay everyone!

I need help with question g please

My answer for this question was 2p - 4

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I got 2p - 4 because I did 5 - 3 first which = 2

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So 2 ( p - 2) = 2p -4 when expanded

fluid knoll
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You can't do that, order of operations

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idk if y'all use PEMDAS or BEDMAS

tulip leaf
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oh yeah bidmas

fluid knoll
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But you must distribute the 3 into the brackets first

tulip leaf
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brackets first

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in bidmas

quiet goblet
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What is i stand for

tulip leaf
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indices

quiet goblet
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Ok

tulip leaf
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but there are no indices in question g

quiet goblet
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Yeah

tulip leaf
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sorry i confused lol been a long time havent study maths

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hmm so -3 (p - 2) = -3p + 6 is the first step.

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oh wait i think i done it wrong

quiet goblet
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You omitted 5

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You can do first step but 5 is part of expression so there must be 5 in it

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rapid flame
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hi

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tulip leaf
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But I dont know how to get p.

5- 3 (p - 2)

5 - 3 = 2

sullen leaf
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rapid flame
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I need help on this q:

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I'm getting that its 1/n^p * 1 * 2 * 3 ... * n-1 * n

quiet goblet
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Bracket should come first

rapid flame
tulip leaf
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Yeah Im really not sure how to get p though Calamity.

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I very confused

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Ill think about it moroe

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more

quiet goblet
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You can't substract before multiplication

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3 is multiplied to (p-2), you have to solve that first

tulip leaf
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I mean I cant do brackets first because I dont know what is (p-2).

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oh ok

quiet goblet
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P-2 is an expression

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You can not substract a lion from a stone

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Let that be

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P and 2 are unlike terms

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So bracket part is there to show that the whole stuff is multiplied to 3

tulip leaf
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ok so I need to do -3 (p -2) and expand the bracket.

quiet goblet
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Yes

tulip leaf
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oh alright thank you

quiet goblet
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Np

tulip leaf
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-3p + 6

quiet goblet
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Yes

tulip leaf
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is the answer when expanded

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thanks

quiet goblet
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5-3p+6

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Don't omit 5

tulip leaf
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so now I have to collect like terms.

5 + 6 = 11

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11 - 3p

quiet goblet
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Thats the simplified ans

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Well done

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👍

tulip leaf
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Calamity you genius thank you so much for being patient with me🙂

quiet goblet
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No problem, we were destined to pass so I landed my help

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tulip leaf
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Yay.

Have a great night Calamity my friend

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Same to you

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true island
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I'm stuck on how I can drive a state space model.

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Here's what I've tried so far

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I'm not sure if what I did is even in the right direction

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I tried to define my state variables in this case X1 and x2 and solve Fnet = ma

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true island
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I actually did it and solved my self

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or whatever

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polar steppe
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Did I use the log/exponential rules properly ?

unborn swallow
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Nope

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ln(x+y) is not lnx + lny

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ln(xy) is lnx + lny

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you can simplify it further a bit though

polar steppe
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wait

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where did I make that error?

unborn swallow
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when you did $\ln{(\frac{2}{3}x^{\frac{3}{2}}+C)}=\ln{(\frac{2}{3}x^{\frac{3}{2}})}+\ln{(C)}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Astral

unborn swallow
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you can do $\ln{(\frac{2}{3}x^{\frac{3}{2}}+C)}=\ln{(\frac{2}{3}x^{\frac{3}{2}}+\frac{2}{3}K)}=\ln{(x^{\frac{3}{2}}+K)}+\ln{\frac{2}{3}}$ though, not much of a simplification

jolly parrotBOT
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Astral

polar steppe
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are you distrubuting the 2/3 to the k?

unborn swallow
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I'm saying C=2K/3

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both C and K are just constants of integration

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I just scaled it differently, it doesn't matter since C and K have the same range (both are just in R)

polar steppe
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I follow that part

unborn swallow
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that way I can factor out a 2/3 from every part being ln'd, which I can then move out into +ln(2/3)

polar steppe
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I see

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hmm

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can you explain where it comes from though?

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the 2/3k

unborn swallow
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yes, C is a real number

polar steppe
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like why is c = 2/3k

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indeed

unborn swallow
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C=2K/3 because C is arbitrary and ranges from (-∞,∞), so 2K/3 does as well, and we can determine that K also has range (-∞,∞) therefore we can simply declare K a replacement constant of integration

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C=2K/3 because I said so, because it would simplify best

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I could've said C=K^3, but that's unhelpful, doesn't help me simplify

polar steppe
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so

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can we only do this because c is a constant?

unborn swallow
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C is an arbitrary constant of integration, if you differentiate it it becomes 0

unborn swallow
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you will find K does not matter, ie K is any real number

polar steppe
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gotcha

unborn swallow
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same goes for the raw unsimplified answer, C does not matter, it'll cancel out upon plugging into the dfq

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you use the constants to solve for specific conditions

polar steppe
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gotcha

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in this case though

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they didn't give me a condition right?

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usually they'd right like y(0) = 5

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or something like that that

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or are you talking about something else?

unborn swallow
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with its constants of integration located somewhere in your answer

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like how y'=y is solved by Ae^t, any real A will solve y'=y for y=Ae^t, hence it's the general equation

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but only one A solves y=Ae^t for a given input condition

polar steppe
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gotcha gotcha

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ty ty

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late jolt
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hi

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late jolt
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so I completed all the questions except #5

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how would I do question 5.

nimble osprey
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i had a dejuvu

late jolt
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what

nimble osprey
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that page

rigid mist
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what😂

late jolt
nimble osprey
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i already see it

late jolt
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where

nimble osprey
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in this discord

late jolt
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when

nimble osprey
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maybe yesterday ..idk

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you known!

late jolt
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@nimble osprey u trolling or smth?

nimble osprey
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no nvm

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i am too tired to even read point 5

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I prefer to eat a nice pizza

late jolt
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if you ain't gonna help

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@late jolt Has your question been resolved?

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@late jolt Has your question been resolved?

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@late jolt Has your question been resolved?

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ocean basalt
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How would you do 5?

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In the directions, it gave you City names and coordinate points, I would start off by just plotting those on the graph first.

late jolt
ocean basalt
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The three cities have three different coordinate points (x,y). That is what they want you to plot first

late jolt
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sorry for the late reply

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and please ping me once you reply!

ocean basalt
late jolt
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so what do I do after?

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I plotted the different coordinates

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do I do the central station now?

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they do have the same distances

ocean basalt
late jolt
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so that would be (-3.5, 1.5)

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or the ones I solved for?

ocean basalt
late jolt
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okay brb

nocturne plover
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for breeze and cedar i think you flipped x and y

nocturne plover
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breeze is -8, 1 yes?

late jolt
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yes

nocturne plover
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is that not flipped from what you drew?

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actually all of them seem flipped

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unless your x is vertical

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the first number is that vertical or horizontal?

late jolt
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so like that?

nocturne plover
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yeah where the blue dot is

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for breeze

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that would make sense to me

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with it being (-8, 1)

late jolt
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like this?

nocturne plover
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yeah

late jolt
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<@&286206848099549185> what would I do after

nocturne plover
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draw the shortest path to the highway from central station

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that's one of the things

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kind solar
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hello

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kind solar
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i am trying to graph this

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in my graph calculator

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but when press graph nothing pops up

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i pressed y= first and put that in

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then graph

feral leaf
kind solar
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uh

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to waht

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i just put random numbers in the winddow now i have error

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😭

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i think i messed my calc up

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wind lantern
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Question 6th.

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wind lantern
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I do not understand the problem.

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What are we supposed to find.

unique ibex
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wind lantern
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Yes. The solution comes as
ln y = ((1/x-3) + C ) where C is any arbitrary constant.

woven topaz
# wind lantern What are we supposed to find.

I suspect the question is asking you to identify the domain of definition for the solution to the differential equation. In doing so, they want to know which of those intervals is contained in the larger domain of definition for your solution

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woven topaz
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$$y = \exp\left(\frac{1}{x-3} + C\right)$$

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Ammardian

woven topaz
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This solution will have a domain of definition

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I suspect what they are asking is for you to find which of those 4 intervals would be contained within this domain

woven topaz
# jolly parrot **Ammardian**

This function for example, may have some divide by 0 issues at a certain x-value, so your goal is to work out where that issue is

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and so what the domain of this function is

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At the end of the day, the question is, "Which of these 4 intervals does not contain the x-value for which the solution to your differential equation above is undefined"

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Ok. I think I get it.

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\def\P{\mathrm P}
A pair of fair dice is tossed. Find the probability of getting at most a total of 10.

\vs{5 mm}
\textbf{My attempt:} For this, let $B$ be the event of getting at most a total of 10. Then, $\comp B$ is the event that you get at least 10. So: [
\comp B = \set{55,56,65,66} \implies \abs{\comp B} = 4
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Then: [
\map \P B = 1 - \map \P{\comp B} = 1 - \f4{36} = \f89
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midnight haven
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How did I fuck up in the above?

muted locust
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well is says atmost so how did you include 66

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muted locust
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and 56

brisk scarab
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complement of B

muted locust
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atmost is maximum

rustic gate
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at most 10 complement is more than 10

muted locust
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oh fk mb

brisk scarab
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have you been given the 'right' answer

midnight haven
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no its just that teh system is rejecting my answer

midnight haven
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i have to exclude 55

rustic gate
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brisk scarab
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^ yeah the q is inconsistent about the 10 case

rustic gate
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[ \lnot(x \le 10) = x > 10 ]

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midnight haven
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man my logic game is fucking weak

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wtf

rustic gate
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weak logic

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you missed logic day

midnight haven
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thanks tearfox and Edward II

rustic gate
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what about edward the first

midnight haven
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we dont talk about him

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azure bay
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For function notation that’s written as f: A -> B, A is the domain and B is the codomain right? And the range would be the “actual” values that A maps to with the function right?

azure bay
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Just need some clarification to make sure I’ve understood this part of my lecture correctly

tropic saddle
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yes

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proud finch
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can i do this this way?

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warm current
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no

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$(a+b)^n\ne a^n+b^n$

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proud finch
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thx

proud finch
warm current
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binomial expansion

proud finch
warm current
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short version
$(a+b)^4=4a^4+4a^3 b+6a^2 b^2 + 4ab^3 + b^4$

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proud finch
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yes are you sure that is the only way to resolve this problem bc i’m not sure my teacher would give us an assignment where we need to use a formula that wasn’t taught yet

warm current
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If you're doing integral calculus, you should have learned binomial expansion three years ago in an Algebra class.

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You could do u substitution too, I suppose

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warm current
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Look it up then, you should def know it by know if you're in a calculus class.

proud finch
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yes i am

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i did calc 1

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im doing calc 2

warm current
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Then you should absolutely know it by know.

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But if you want to skip it for now, do u substitution

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Let a_n and u_n be real sequences.

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Suppose that we have a borel set A with positive lebesgue measure such that $\sum_1^\infty |a_n cos (nx + u_n)|$ is finite

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dreamalice

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Show that $\sum |a_n|$ is finite

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dreamalice

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I don’t even know where to begin opencry looking at fejer right now but I feel dumb cause it feels easy

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Trying to show it on an interval first

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slim turtle
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Ok fejers theorem got me nowhere

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<@&286206848099549185> if any of you know where to start with plz send help this is obviously false for an arbitrary interval but idk where to go, positive lebesgue measure so I can work this on an interval

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Ok I have [a,b] where it holds for x in it, then wat

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midnight haven
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An Airbus is a wide-body, twin-engine commercial jet aircraft that weighs 560 tons and flies at 0.85 Mach (1 Mach is equivalent to 340 m/s) at an altitude of 10 km. Determines its kinetic, potential and mechanical energy.

Kinetic energy: E_C= 1/2 m ∙ v^2
Potential energy: E_P= m ∙ g∙h
Mechanical energy: E_(M ) = E_C+ E_P
Where: m = mass, h = height, v = speed and g = gravity = 10 m/s2

This is from my math class, and I swear I have never had a physics class in my school, so I don't know how I should express those values.

For example, they say that it weights 560 tons, but it doesn't say the mass, how can I find it? do I need to use the formula for the force?
For the mass, what unit should I use?

I know:
Velocity = 289 m/s
Height = 10 km = 10 000 m

feral leaf
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As m and km are metric

midnight haven
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so mass = weight??

feral leaf
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No

midnight haven
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at least in this case

midnight haven
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(I want to learn about this)

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I know they are not equal, but maybe I can assume that mass through its weight

feral leaf
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Mass is the amount of matter an object contains, weight is the force of gravity on that mass

feral leaf
midnight haven
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I know that

midnight haven
feral leaf
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No because tons is a unit of mass

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Not weight

midnight haven
feral leaf
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When I said m and km, it's the units in m/s and km, so m is meters and km is kilometers, metric units

midnight haven
feral leaf
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Tons is not metric so you have to convert to metric

midnight haven
midnight haven
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feral leaf
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I think you are getting them confused with ton and tonne, ton is imperial, tonne or metric ton is metric

midnight haven
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toneladas is in spanish

feral leaf
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1 ton does not equal 1 metric ton

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1 ton, is imperial is equal to 2000 pounds or 907.18 kg. 1 metric ton is 1000 kg

midnight haven
feral leaf
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Not ton

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Like the problem

midnight haven
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I put the prolem on the translator

midnight haven
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so it's tonne then

feral leaf
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It's the spelling, in English tons and tonnes are different because one is imperial, the other is metric. In other languages, you don't mess with imperial units so it defaults to metric, most of the time, so when you translated ton, and converted, it defaulted to tonnes (metric tons) because spanish uses metric

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Was that problem originally in spanish or english?

midnight haven
midnight haven
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so...

E_C = 1/2 (560 000 kg) ∙ (289 m/s)^2 ?

feral leaf
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If it was originally in spanish then the 560 is metric tons

midnight haven
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mm yes

midnight haven
feral leaf
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It has units

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E_C = 1/2 (560 000 kg) ∙ (289 m/s)^2
If you expanded that out, you'll get (1/2 * 560 000 * 289^2) kg * (m^2/s^2)

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Because (289 m/s)^2 = 289^2 m^2/s^2

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And then I just moved things around

midnight haven
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so, it would be $2,338588 x 10^{10} kg * m^2/s^2$ ?

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feral leaf
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Yes

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Note that $1 \text{kg } \cdot \frac{m^2}{s^2} = 1 \text{J}$

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CaptainNova22

feral leaf
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J is Joules

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Unit for energy

midnight haven
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ohh okay, thanks
so: $2,338588 x 10^{10}J$ ?

jolly parrotBOT
feral leaf
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Yes

midnight haven
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and EP = (560 000 kg) ∙ (10 m/s2) ∙ (10 000 m)

feral leaf
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Are you using the acceleration due to gravity as 10 m/s^2?

midnight haven
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yes, I think it should be 9,8 ???
but they told me that

feral leaf
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It's 9.81 m/s^2 but it told you to use 10, that's fine

midnight haven
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feral leaf
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Yes

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And as a suggestion, don't use x when you're showing scientific notation, use \times

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$5,6 \times 10^{10} J$

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CaptainNova22

midnight haven
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and

E(M ) = $2,338588 \times 10^{10} J + 5,6 \times 10^{10} J = 7,938588 \times 10^{10} J$

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that was all, thanks a lot for the help (:

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I'd like to know how to generally approach these problems

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And is it possible for me to ever get good at this?

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I tried like 5 times to come up with a solution and gave up

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They have a whole ass explanation but I just can't logically grasp the intuition in a way that makes me confidently say that I get what happened

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the problem is much easier that the explanation implies

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after 1st step, we definitely have 3 closed doors
with probability 3/4 we have two after step 2
after step 3 it's (3/4)(1/2) to have 3, and (3/4)(1/2) to have 1
with probability 1/4 we have 4 closed doors after step 2, and then it's defintiely 3 in the end
3(3/4)(1/2) + 1(3/4)(1/2) + 3(1/4) = 9/4

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but I guess the problem doesn't matter, you're asking if you will ever understand the smart explanation

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Thank you so much

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I just wanna get good at probability and stats

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I love the subject but I feel so dumb

vestal tapir
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the hard approach wolud still work if there's like 7 doors and 9 steps, examining all states like i did would become too slow

jaunty wigeon
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So the hard approach is choosing to focus on a single door

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It finds the E(X) of that single door

vestal tapir
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yep

jaunty wigeon
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But my brain fails to understand it because the probabilities change depending on each iteration

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Though I think I see it now

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At least I feel like I do

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Will I get better with more practice lol

vestal tapir
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they noticed that there's 2 cases where a door is closed, either no one touched it, or 2 people did

jaunty wigeon
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This class has made me dumber than any class ever

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feel dumber*

jaunty wigeon
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Either way, thank you so much for the help

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I'm gonna keep practicing

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hey guys

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help

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E(x) is a floor function

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whats E(x) if x ∈ ]-∞, 1[

warped shuttle
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are those brackets flipped?

full pawn
warped shuttle
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cause im assuming its supposed to be [-∞, 1]

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oh whar

full pawn
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-inf cant be [

warped shuttle
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you spittin

tropic saddle
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its different notation for (-inf,1)

full pawn
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or can it 😳

midnight haven
warped shuttle
midnight haven
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Something like that exists?

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Flipped closed brackets

full pawn
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i just got it in a test exam

midnight haven
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....

full pawn
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wtf

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yall triping me

midnight haven
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Oh wait ] = ( ?

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Wtf

full pawn
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i always used ]-inf wtf

midnight haven
midnight haven
full pawn
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wait yall dont uuse []?

midnight haven
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I do use [] and ()

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But not ][

tropic saddle
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it just differs between some countries

midnight haven
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Ohh

full pawn
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how the f

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[ and ] are way way diff

warped shuttle
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1 is upper bound and if E(x) is a floor function then it should be E(x) = 0 as x = 1 and the greatest integer <= 1 is 0

midnight haven
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][ = ? () or []

full pawn
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no

tropic saddle
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][ is known as french notation

midnight haven
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?

full pawn
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for example ]-inf cuz inf cant just be one const value

brisk scarab
midnight haven
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What do u use [] for

full pawn
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[a,b] means that in the interval both a and b can be used

midnight haven
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Dude that makes alot more sense than ()

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How is () this open lol

full pawn
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]a,b[ means that a, b cant be used

full pawn
midnight haven
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I'll start using][

full pawn
warped shuttle
midnight haven
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Floor function

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And roof function

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Is also known as greatest integer function and smallest integer function

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I forgot which is which

warped shuttle
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floor is greatest integer

midnight haven
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Oh ok

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So

warped shuttle
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cause they return greatest integer <= the input

midnight haven
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[•] = f(x) = floor function

midnight haven
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Lemme draw something

full pawn
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ik how floor functions work, what would E(x) if x ∈ ]-∞, 1[ return tho

tropic saddle
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well depends on x

brisk scarab
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well for numbers between 0 and 1, it returns precisely 0

tropic saddle
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!original

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brisk scarab
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and it can obviously return any negative integer

full pawn
tropic saddle
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if x=2 then it returns 2. otherwise it returns 1

full pawn
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yes corect

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mb meant to say [1,2[

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anyways let me show u what im supposed to do in this test

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sec

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is "the definition set" a valid mathematical word?

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cuz i study this shit in french

tropic saddle
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is this a test you are currently writing?

full pawn
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no im doing the test

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its 1am

tropic saddle
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you are probably looking for the word domain

full pawn
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yes yes

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so im given
f {
f(x) = E(x) + sqrt(2 + E(x-1)) if x ∈ ]-∞, 1[
f(x) = x^3 + sqrt(x-1) if x ∈ [1, +∞[
}

im asked to get the "domain"? is it called domain

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yes domain

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domain for f

rare yarrow
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7

brisk scarab
full pawn
brisk scarab
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yes domain

full pawn
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ok how would i get it in this case

brisk scarab
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so you want the x where f makes sense

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so E makes sense for any x

full pawn
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yes

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its prtty easy i just cant find the E(x) for an interval that has inf ?

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first time seeing that

brisk scarab
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can you send the original question? in french

full pawn
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soit f la fonction definie par:```
f {
f(x) = E(x) + sqrt(2 + E(x-1)) if x ∈ ]-∞, 1[
f(x) = x^3 + sqrt(x-1) if x ∈ [1, +∞[
}


1)a) determiner l'ensemble de definition de f
brisk scarab
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ok so not every x in ]-∞, 1[ allows f to make sense, I'll give that

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and the issue isn't in E(x)

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because any x in

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so the issue is in the square root

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what can you not take the square root of

full pawn
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yeah i tried that

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the E() is always there

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it has to return a value right?

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or does it return an interval

brisk scarab
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it returns a value

full pawn
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whats the value tho

brisk scarab
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E(x)

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the question is asking: I'm picking an x < 1. However, f may not always work because we're not allowing something inside it. Which x less than 1 does it actually work for?

full pawn
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wait..

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2 + E(x-1) cant be negative

brisk scarab
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for the square root to make sense, exactly

full pawn
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E(x-1) >= -2

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hm

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so basically

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what's the interval that if we were to floor woud give a value included in [-2, -1[?

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which returns -2 ?

brisk scarab
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rather than [-2,-1[

full pawn
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huh why

brisk scarab
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oh wait

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yeah you're right

full pawn
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isnt that part of the function difined in that interval

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yeah

brisk scarab
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I forgot that we initially have x<1

full pawn
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ok anyways

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is my thinking right?

brisk scarab
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yes

full pawn
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E(x-1) = -2

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fuck my head hurts

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imma go sleep thanks for the help rlly appreciate it

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I don’t know how do this problem

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What is the question asking you to do

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Do you know?

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can someone walk me through how to derive x^sinx

rigid mist
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derive x^sinx as such its derivative right?

blazing rover
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i'm not sure what you mean by that

snow sail
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do you mean differentiate?

blazing rover
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yes sorry

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i'm solving

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which means that i need to differentiate x^sinx

snow sail
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don't you need to rewrite this?

feral cedar
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Okay, so lim(x—>0) x^(sinx) becomes 0^0, so you’ll need to rewrite this first so that it becomes either 0/0 or inf/inf

snow sail
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yes

blazing rover
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oh i see

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i'm not sure what to do in order to rewrite this

snow sail
blazing rover
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i know i can use ln, but i'm not sure how to do it with the lim(x->0) in there

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i'm getting tripped up by the lim

feral cedar
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Just pretend it’s not there

blazing rover
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can i just make it lnx^sinx?

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then sinx(lnx)

feral cedar
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That’s a thing yes, and then what is the reciprocal of sinx?

blazing rover
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1/cscx

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?

feral cedar
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Mhm

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So then you could write maybe… lnx/cscx?

blazing rover
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oh i see

feral cedar
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Then what happens as those two approach 0?

blazing rover
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both are undefined

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ok then i can differenciate both

feral cedar
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You get inf/inf

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And then you’re good from there

blazing rover
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i didn't know i was able to multiple the x^sinx by ln without another side of the equation

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like when its y=x^sinx you have to do the same to the y to keep it equivilant

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does it not change the value of the function?

tame monolith
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Think of it as
$$ \lim_{x \to 0^+} x^{\sin x} = \lim_{x \to 0^+} e^{\ln\left(x^{\sin x}\right)} = \lim_{x \to 0^+} e^{\frac{\ln(x)}{\csc(x)}} = e^{\lim_{x \to 0^+} \frac{\ln(x)}{\csc(x)}}$$

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So you're going to need to take the answer you get from lhopital and apply exp to it.

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Morrow

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A statement asks to prove that if P(n) is true for all n∈N, then Q(n) is also true for all n∈N. How can we prove this?
There are multiple answers.

  1. Proving that P(n)⇒Q(n) for all n∈N
  2. Assuming that there exists a number n such that Q(n) is false and showing that P(m) is false for a certain m∈N
  3. By proving that Q(0) is true and proving that (P(n) and Q(n))⇒Q(n+1) for all n∈N
  4. Assuming that P(n) is true for all n∈N and Q(n) is false for all n∈N and finding a contradiction
  5. By proving that Q(0) is true, then assuming that there exists n∈N such that P(n) is true but Q(n) and Q(n+1) are false and finding a contradiction
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I think 1 makes sense, I could be wrong tho

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rustic cargo
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i have the rate of change for the radius

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how can I change it to the diameter?

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i got 0.009 by multiplying 0.0043 ( then rounding it to 3 decimal places)

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naive dirge
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why ppl use a "die" instead of a "dice"?

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naive dirge
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I mean die is an old use to mention this gambling gadget

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why ppl, especially when it relates to topics of math, use die? im so confused

echo iris
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die is like simpler probability

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ig dice is more complex

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maybe

naive dirge
echo iris
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yeah

dense goblet
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most sources support my impression that die is the singular and dice is the plural
dice is generally also accepted as a singular form

one website said that dice outdates die in the english vocabulary but idk

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what do you want lmao

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im stuck and cant figure out how to calculate for time when i dont have v_f

worldly glacier
warped ocean
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and im not sure how to calculate for it

worldly glacier
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to do this question bestie

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you can use the equation

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$\triangle x = 1/2at^2 + v_i(t)$

warped ocean
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OH RIGHT I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

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THANK YOU

worldly glacier
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you can close it now if you don't have any qs

warped ocean
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im solving through it rn

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ill just keep this open in case i get stuck again but if not ill close it

toxic lichen
worldly glacier
toxic lichen
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with all due respect, i am not your bestie.

worldly glacier
warped ocean
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i thought it was

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$\Delta x = v_it + \frac{at^2}{2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Kaiyan

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nosqldb

worldly glacier
warped ocean
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does "vertically upward from the ground" mean that i can infer that $\Delta x = 0$?

jolly parrotBOT
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Kaiyan

jolly parrotBOT
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nosqldb

worldly glacier
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but what about x_f???

midnight haven
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Work out the displacement when it reaches the top and use that minus the other displacement to solve for time

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you change it into 2 equations. The first one you're calculating displacement from the ground to the top, the second one you're calculating the time it takes to get from that displacement to 1.27m

warped ocean
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i know i have to solve for the vertex

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but the only equations i know for tthat are -b/2a and (r+s)/2 in which r and s are roots

midnight haven
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Are you allowed to use any of these? (s is displacement, u is initial velocity)

warped ocean
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i havent learned these specific equations yet but i think it should be fine

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there are the ones my teacher gave

midnight haven
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Ohh yeah those are the same as the first 3

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So you're given that Vi is 5.89m/s, when it reaches the top what is its velocity?

warped ocean
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the stuiff in the question is the only given

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i inferred everything else from it

midnight haven
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Yeah you have to split it

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One sec I can draw it out

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The key idea is that when you throw a ball up, at its maximum height its velocity is 0

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And then it turns back down again

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And when it's going up, gravity is working against it so the acceleration is negative. When going down, gravity supports it so acceleration is positive

warped ocean
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yeah that makes sense

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the part i dont get is how to find v_f

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since thats what im missing for time

midnight haven
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Vf is 0 for the first part

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At maximum height the velocity is 0, that's your Vf

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Then the ball falls down and is stopped at 1.27m, you don't need velocity to work out time there

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You can use the first equation

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Imagine they asked it in 2 questions. The first question they asked you to work out time and displacement when it goes from the ground to its maximum height. Then they asked you to work out the time it takes for it to go from maximum height down to 1.27m

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Your values for v, t, a and d are different for both questions

warped ocean
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ok heres what i got for the first one

midnight haven
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Yeah that's right

warped ocean
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now from max to 1.27m

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im a bit confused still

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i know i have to use gravity

midnight haven
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So your acceleration was -9.8m/s^2 going up, what will it be going down?

warped ocean
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speeding up

midnight haven
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Yeah

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So it becomes +9.8

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Your ball reached maximum height, it's final velocity was 0m/s, what would it's initial velocity be now then?

warped ocean
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oh

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0

midnight haven
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Yes

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Wait you needed to calculate d going up I think

worldly glacier
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bestie

midnight haven
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That's the distance from the ground to max height. Then you take the distance from max height to 1.27m above the ground

worldly glacier
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are you guys still working on the q?

warped ocean
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yes

worldly glacier
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why didn't you just say 1.27 m = 1/2 (-g)t^2 + 5.89t

warped ocean
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let me check the displacement equations again

warped ocean
worldly glacier
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I got 0.94 s

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is that correct @warped ocean

warped ocean
warped ocean
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because 1.27 is not the change in y

worldly glacier
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doesn't it say height?

midnight haven
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He's got it

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Let him do it

warped ocean
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and gets caught at 1.27

worldly glacier
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so x_i = 0m

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x_f = 1.27 m

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$\Delta x = 1.27 m$

midnight haven
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xf isn't 1.27

jolly parrotBOT
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nosqldb

midnight haven
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It goes up and falls back down to 1.27

worldly glacier
midnight haven
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So the first displacement is higher, then it falls from there to 1.27

worldly glacier
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just consider y_i = 0

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and y_f = 1.27 m

warped ocean
worldly glacier
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this is a good idea of the projectile motion

warped ocean
worldly glacier
warped ocean
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but something is off

midnight haven
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I don't think the acceleration stays negative the whole time

worldly glacier
worldly glacier
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numerical answer to check with

warped ocean
warped ocean
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oh wait

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nvm

worldly glacier
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it's good

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the answer is good

midnight haven
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It is 0.92s

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He needs to know how to get there tho lol

warped ocean
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ill try to derive it on my own

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lets see

worldly glacier
midnight haven
warped ocean
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i brute forced it

worldly glacier
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🙏

midnight haven
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I mean if you can just factorise like that in your head then ur good

warped ocean
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i used quad formula

midnight haven
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Ohh yeah

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Mb

warped ocean
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its ight

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thanks for the help guys

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my teacher said we're gonna discuss this question in class anyway so if theres a diff method then he'll teach it to me soon

worldly glacier
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you can ".close"

warped ocean
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ight

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farewell

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.close

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midnight haven
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is 1 < x <=3 and 3 <= y <=5 an open or closed set

midnight haven
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(x,y) in R^2

copper umbra
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it's not open since at $(x,y) = (3,5)$, any open ball you draw would exceed this region

jolly parrotBOT
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Dee3Cay

midnight haven
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can i also say it has its boundary poitns

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3 is a boundary point right

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iin this case

copper umbra
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3 as in

midnight haven
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(-1,3]

copper umbra
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it's R^2? 🧐

midnight haven
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yes

copper umbra
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3 is a point in R^1 not R^2

midnight haven
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it includes all points from -1 (excluding -1) to 3 (including 3),

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dont you say that by (1,-3]

copper umbra
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well sure but

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again this is just a set of points in R^1

midnight haven
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oh ok

copper umbra
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for example, if you want to say points on this line are boundary points, I would say it's points on ${3} \times [3,5]$

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Dee3Cay

copper umbra
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that would be R^2

midnight haven
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yeah but im looking at one at a time

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first at x then and y

copper umbra
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well you can't really do that?:/

midnight haven
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ok

copper umbra
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coz if you look at a particular x it's not a well-formed point in R^2

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back to your question

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it's also not closed

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this can be shown in 2 ways:

  1. the complement is not open
  2. there exists a sequence of points, converging to a point outside of the region
midnight haven
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then

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not open but not closed

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im confused

copper umbra
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at point (x,y) = (3,5), draw an open ball, it goes outside of your region

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ok back to square one
what's the definition of open and closed

midnight haven
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open is that

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i can find something in the set

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  • epison
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or - epsilon

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and still be in the set

copper umbra
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em

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not entirely accurate

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open is that for every point in the set, you take a "small neighbourhood", this small nbhd is still "within" the set

midnight haven
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that is what i said

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small neighbourhood = episolon

copper umbra
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yes

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but you said "i can find something in the set, +/- epsilon"

midnight haven
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yh you give me a point

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i find +/- epsilon

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open set

copper umbra
midnight haven
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a point within the set?

copper umbra
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is there restrictions on what points in the set can I give?

midnight haven
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well it shouldnt be outside the set

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but if you're in the set it should be fine

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no matter which point you give me

copper umbra
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ok so to be more accurate (especially in writing proofs)

midnight haven
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i picture it as a number line

copper umbra
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you want to say for every point, ...

midnight haven
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(0-3)

copper umbra
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your idea is correct

midnight haven
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any number you can think of between these two

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i can give you a +/- epsilon

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since there are infinitely meaning nubmers between any two numbers (if they arent the same i suppose)

copper umbra
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ok so back to your question

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how can we show it's not an open set?

midnight haven
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well either i can show it has all its boundary points

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or do the complement thing

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not quite sure how though

copper umbra
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let's try to show by definition

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you've stated the definition of "open sets"

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can you negate that definition to become "not open sets"

midnight haven
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yes

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the point 5,3

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and 3,0?

copper umbra
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(5,3) and (3,0) are not in 1<x<=3 and 3<=y<=5?

midnight haven
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[5,3] is a point in the set

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right

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but not that + epison

copper umbra
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ok you're going to quick

midnight haven
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ok

copper umbra
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let's not go to naming points first

midnight haven
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itsn that just that i cant give you a +/- epsilon

copper umbra
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such that?

midnight haven
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then its closed?

copper umbra
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no?

midnight haven
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didnt we just say if i could its open

copper umbra
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ok 1) not open does NOT mean closed

midnight haven
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then its closed

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surely

copper umbra
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how about this
could you write it down in symbols form?
like epsilon, B(x, \epsilon)?

copper umbra
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but does this contain all its boundary points?

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and 1 step back, what's the definition of boundary points?

midnight haven
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a point where

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every neighborhood of that point

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will contain a point outside and inside the set

copper umbra
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ok great

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so are all boundary points contained in (1,3]x[3,5]?

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aka this rectangular region

midnight haven
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(1

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does this fail it?

copper umbra
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(1,?)

midnight haven
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that this is a half open interval

copper umbra
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you'll need a point in R^2 as example

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ok question

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what is the course you're taking?

midnight haven
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its just called intro math

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linear algebra and calculus

copper umbra
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ok

midnight haven
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mixed into one

copper umbra
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so does calculus allows anything over 1 variable

midnight haven
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yes

copper umbra
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ok

midnight haven
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the book this question is from is called functions of mutiple variables

copper umbra
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all of your ideas are correct if you're playing in R^1

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in R^2 or above you can't think of "open neighbourhoods" as "open intervals"

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at least it has to be "open circles" or "open balls"

midnight haven
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ok, ill try to not do that

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so you cant look at them separetely

copper umbra
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for example, x = 1 is getting there, but you need to pick an actual (x,y) point, say (1,4)

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now I draw an open circle (of radius epsilon) at it, some part of it outside, some part of it inside

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just like definition of a boundary point

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but the point (x,y)=(1,4) is not in the set, since 1 < x <= 3

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so boundary points are not contained, thus not closed

midnight haven
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but not closed doesnt mean open

copper umbra
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yes it's not closed and also not open

midnight haven
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what is it then

copper umbra
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it is neither :]

midnight haven
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oh

copper umbra
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A set can be both not open and not closed

midnight haven
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i read the question wrong

copper umbra
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ok so

midnight haven
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is that set we jsut talked about

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determine if the set is restricted or not

copper umbra
midnight haven
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that is the question

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im translating to english

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to get the correct term, one second

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maybe finite set?

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the definition of it will be easier

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if you can contain the set in a cirkel, that has center in origo it is restricted

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or a ball structed thing

copper umbra
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what language was it in?

midnight haven
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danish

copper umbra
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could you take a pic of the question?

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there's gotta be some sort of image language translator or sth

midnight haven
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we dont need one if you know the definition of this

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lets say x^2 + 1/4*y^2 >= 1

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then i can incapsulate this in a circle or ball, then it is restricted

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remind you of anything concept?

copper umbra
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it is bounded maybe?

midnight haven
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||a|| < R

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mby this definition

copper umbra
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ok bounded it is

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wait so what's the question 👀

midnight haven
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is it bounded or not

copper umbra
midnight haven
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it says "if you can incapsulate it, in a circle or ball, then it is bounded"

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yes

copper umbra
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well this is not

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we prove this by contradiction, assume it is in a ball of radius r

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can we choose a point outside this ball?

midnight haven
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in the set

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or just if we can ever?

copper umbra
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yes a point in the set that's outside the ball

midnight haven
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not if everything is in the ball

copper umbra
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x^2 + 1/4*y^2 >= 1 <-- you're talking about this right?

midnight haven
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no

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still the other one

copper umbra
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<-- this?

midnight haven
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yes

copper umbra
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well then it is bounded

midnight haven
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okay

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but what if i just make my ball infinitely big

copper umbra
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you can just take balls like radius 100?:]

midnight haven
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what sets does a infinitely big infinitely many dimensional object

jolly parrotBOT
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Dee3Cay

midnight haven
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i meant not contain

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not contain

copper umbra
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I don't understand?

midnight haven
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i think i have missunderstood the definition

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because well

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if i can choose a ball in inft many dimension and that is inft large

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how does it not contain y=x^2

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my circle is exactly as big as x^2

copper umbra
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y = x^2 is a parabola?

midnight haven
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yes

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but my circle is infinitely big

copper umbra
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well you can't exactly define an "infinitely big circle"

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and also the idea of bounded means you have to fix your circle size

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you can't have circle size depend on some variable x

midnight haven
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but didnt we just chose it to be 100 last time

copper umbra
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yes but I fix this 100

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I will not make it larger or smaller

midnight haven
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okay i fix mine at infinite then

copper umbra
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you can't fix a circle radius at infinity because infinity is not a "value"