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which in this case, it's ×(-1) on both sides

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May someone help me with probability? It’s outing something that’s in a superposition through a measure gate. I’m just a bit lost because I don’t know where to go

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red tundra
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if a1>0 prove find monotone of an (by induction probably), how??

lone saffron
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you need to prove this right?

red tundra
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prove that is decreasing

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an

naive otter
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Any value given ?

red tundra
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no, only that a1>0

naive otter
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Like of a_0 or a_1

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Ok

red tundra
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we consider a1 as the first term btw

naive otter
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a1 > 0

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So a2 = a1/(1+a1)

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Numerator is greater than denominator

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Therefore the statement holds true for the a2

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let be true for a_m , therefore a_m <a_(m-1)

red tundra
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cook

naive otter
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Thefore a_m+1 = (a_m)/(1+a_m)

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now since a_m < a_(m-1) evidently , a_m+1 < a_(m-1)

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ai think this doesn't requires this sort of induction based proof

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You can generally write the logic and proof it

red tundra
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I don't understand how this proves that a_n is decreasing

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can anybody help?????????????

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fringe cedar
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Hello, quick question, why is the conditional probability P(A given B) = P(A by applying B), I'm referring to this

by doing $\operatorname{nCr}\left(3,1\right)\cdot\left(0.6\right)\cdot\left(0.4\right)^{2}$ one can get the same probability but i dont know why

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Edsel Di Meo

fringe cedar
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I followed my intuition but i dont know why it holds true

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I ask this because I know P(A given B) = P(A and B) / P(B)

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rotund moth
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hello

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rotund moth
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I need someone to explain me what differentiation is

zinc ginkgo
rotund moth
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Okay. Is differentitation related to limits/continuity?

zinc ginkgo
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read the article

rotund moth
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Thanks

woven nova
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it is

rotund moth
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Okay

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Thanks a lot

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pale valve
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Hellooo, i'm not sure how to solve this, the person that gave me his problem, told me that its supose to get a number whit out calculator or aproximation

zinc ginkgo
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!15m

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pale valve
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Im sorry 😓

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<@&286206848099549185> i need help please😓

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@pale valve Has your question been resolved?

pale valve
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No😓

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I still waiting for help

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Sorry for taggim You but i been waiting for 35 minuts😓

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<@&286206848099549185>

pale valve
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Yep😓

marble spruce
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does your teacher teach you by doing graphing

pale valve
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Nono

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Sorry, no

marble spruce
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oh

pale valve
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😓

marble spruce
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Don’t you just bring it to the other side to make it x=-2^x+5?

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Or is there more to it?

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Isn’t it straightfoward?

pale valve
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The person that gave me this problem, asked for an entire number

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Because if you try whit log

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You get this

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And its kind the same situation

marble spruce
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Yeah, thats literally the answer

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What’s the person learning for them to get a whole number out of it?

pale valve
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The teacher came to the class and just said "resolve it" without context, he just said that there is a way to get an entire number without calculator

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😓😓

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Can i tagg helpers again?

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<@&268886789983436800> can i tagg helpers again?

knotty oriole
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I think the rules are kinda vague as far as whether you can ping only once after the first 15 mins from posting your q or once every 15 mins. I think once every 15 min might annoy ppl though.

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Might as well just ping now and give it like 30 min to an hr before pinging again.

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But for your actual question, I don't see an easy way to solve this

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There is a function called the W-lambert function that is supposed to be usable to solve this kind of equation I think.

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But that seems unreasonable here to expect you to know.

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Sometimes you can check this kind of thing via inspection, brute force, looking closely at the graph

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For finding particular nice values.

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I don't think that kind of thing works in general though.

pale valve
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I whant to know, been honest, i been 5 days tring to resolve it

knotty oriole
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,w solve 2^x = 5 - x

knotty oriole
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Wolfram alpha thinks this also requires the lambert w function

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I don't think there is going to be an easy solution that doesn't use that.

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Sometimes you get lucky.

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For ex, try and solve 3^x=1-x

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Do you see the solution?

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Try x=0

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Do you see it now?

pale valve
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Yes i get it

knotty oriole
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But this only works because we got lucky and I happened to pick a nice set of values for our equation.

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Same idea applies for something like solving 2^x=3

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You might say, aha! Just take the log!

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But we had to invent a function, the logarithm, for this to be solvable in the first place.

pale valve
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Thats crazy, i mean at the begining the problem didnt look that hard

knotty oriole
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Yah sometimes things look a lot easier than they are lol.

pale valve
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😓 its crazy

knotty oriole
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It happens

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Fwiw you can't just define a function that gives you a solution to every equation.

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The function has to actually exist.

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For ex x^2 + 1 = 0 doesn't have a real valued solution

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Because squares of real numbers are always positive or zero.

pale valve
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😮‍💨

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Its more harder and tricky than i thought😮‍💨

knotty oriole
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It's hard to tell what the person asking you this question had in mind.

pale valve
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Dont know lmao

knotty oriole
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Your best bet is probably to ask them directly.

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Maybe they know some trick neither of us know.

pale valve
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have to learn more, im really thankfull good person😭

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Have a good dsy/night 😭

knotty oriole
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You too

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rustic kiln
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is this the correct answer?

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wraith hinge
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This strikes me as a power rule derivative problem, but are you there yet in your course?

rustic kiln
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yes

dry copper
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it is

austere pebble
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SU TAOOOOOOOO

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swift forge
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i’m confused

zinc ginkgo
swift forge
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how is it R?

zinc ginkgo
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They explain it

swift forge
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still confused

zinc ginkgo
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Which part of their explanation is confusing

swift forge
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bro idk

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i just don’t get it

obsidian valley
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do you know what an abs value is?

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R just means all real numbers

brazen zephyr
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Absolute function always give you positive result that means whatever the value of x, the expression will always be greater than -11. So x belongs to all real numbers

swift forge
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what’s an absolute value @obsidian valley

obsidian valley
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absolute value is a fuction notated by the big bars | | where no matter what is inside it, it will return the positive version of it

swift forge
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so why is it R if it’s -11

obsidian valley
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so like |-7| = 7

swift forge
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that’s a negative

obsidian valley
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yeah this is saying all real numbers inside an abs value will be bigger than -11

swift forge
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ah

obsidian valley
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since an abs value will only return a positive number

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and positive is always bigger than a negative

swift forge
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cap cause if x= 10 then 7-40=-11

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-37 is smaller

obsidian valley
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abs value bruh

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|7-40| = 33

swift forge
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oh so it abs can only return positive number

swift forge
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-33*

obsidian valley
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the | | means abs value

swift forge
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so it’s automatically positive?

obsidian valley
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so -37 becomes +37

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yes

swift forge
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got it

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now what about this

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earnest crater
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is a loop in basic circuit analysis

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earnest crater
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just basically any closed contour that you can draw from a node

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is that a complete way to put it or is there an exception

austere cedar
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That's it!

earnest crater
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my book made it so verbose

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lusty delta
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is there any additional context behind this question

versed lark
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no additional context

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i'm a bit stumped on whether it would be a trick question or not

zinc ginkgo
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Why is it not just 1/7

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lusty delta
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if you want to take the question seriously, answer 1/7

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but keep in mind this is very poorly designed

versed lark
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got it, i was overthinking this question a lot lol

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what if someone not responding to my thing

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empty wyvern
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We come to 2(n+k), but wouldn't that be 2n + 2k, not 2n + k?

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huh

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this what i need help on

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i think my teachers y int is wrong

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weak kiln
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how does the bottom give -inf? if I plug in 0 in lnx, why does it give -inf?

celest fractal
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note that if y = ln(x), then e^y = x. what happens when x is a really small positive real number? -- ||y (or lnx) must be a large negative number||

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ahhhhh I see

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not relaly sure why this is true?

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as sqrt(i) is not a cycle of 4 for a complete i cycle

vagrant marsh
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how would you define i?

tepid junco
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e^(i*pi/4)^2 = e^(ipi/2)

vagrant marsh
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whats the barebones definition of i that you might have learned early high school

tepid junco
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square root of negative numbers

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hmm

vagrant marsh
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yeah, i was looking for "i^2 = -1"

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thus we define sqrt(-1) = i despite it not really making sense

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we can apply a similar idea that since (e^(i pi/4))^2 = i, then it would follow that e^(i pi/4) = sqrt(i)

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I konw its a physics question but Can somebody help me w this

radiant zealot
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The graph is here

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Sb help me

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anyone there

prime crystal
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then write the relations for each mass

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supple bridge
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Need help with simplifying square roots

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dusty sleet
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200 = 2•100

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So $\sqrt{200} = 10\sqrt{2}$

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Alberto Z.

supple bridge
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the answer sheet reads 50√2

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is the answer sheet wrong?

dusty sleet
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No 😅

supple bridge
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oooh

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wait

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so you get 10√2

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then multiply the 5 on the outside to get 50√2

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how did you get to 10√2?

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is there an easy method that isnt done using a calculator

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like not using the √ function

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we could only divide the numbers to simplify until we got decimals which is where it would end

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but i was wrong with my initial method

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can 200 be simplified down to 2?

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oh because it comes down to 10√2

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and 200 was the radicand so it would be where the 2 is

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and i only could get down to 10√25 before it couldnt be simplified anymore

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since 25 cannot be divided by 2 since it becomes a decimal number

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i apologize for my negative braincells 😭😭

prime crystal
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$\sqrt{200}$ -> $\sqrt{2\times100}$ -> $\sqrt{2\times(10\times10)}$ -> $\sqrt{2\times10^2}$ -> $10\sqrt{2}$

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Astar777

prime crystal
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you basically split 200 in such a way that you make a perfect square inside the sqrt (for example here u got 10^2), then u can take it out

supple bridge
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because it turns into 2 x 100

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and 100 is 10 x 10

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which is perfect square so it escapes the radical

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so its on the outside

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leaving 2 on the inside

prime crystal
supple bridge
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leaving me with 10√2

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and multiply the 5

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giving me 50√2

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thank you so much
alg 2 has sucked 😭😭😭

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does this commute

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to both

wraith hinge
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what is commute

fair meteor
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transferable

flint mauve
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consider $(A+B)(A^{-1}+B^{-1})$ (assuming they exist). is it $=I$?

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eigentaylor

fair meteor
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idk how they got to I then

flint mauve
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you can distribute

fair meteor
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is

flint mauve
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no i meant distribute on the other thing

flint mauve
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PEMDAS sorta thing. if you have (stuff)inverse, then you generally don't wanna mess with the stuff in parentheses.

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matrix inverses are not that nice

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can someone give me full answer and explanation? It is pretty important 🙂

half goblet
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u can explain only one of them

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sour crescent
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can someone explain why the outer function from the perspective of the axis of rotation is first in h for shell in this example

sour crescent
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and is inner in this one for shell

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i cant find a pattern with which equation goes first with regards to h

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limpid dawn
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limpid dawn
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blue denotes the greater distance, green smaller

sour crescent
limpid dawn
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Because in terms of x it's greater

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You can see horizontally that y = x³ aka x = y^(1/3) is greater

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Otherwise draw it into the yx plane

sour crescent
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so what should always go first in h

limpid dawn
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The outer function

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Looking at the picture the blue

limpid dawn
sour crescent
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the outer function perpindicularly?

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thats the only thing i can see

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sour crescent
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from the axis of rotatin

limpid dawn
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perpendicular?

sour crescent
limpid dawn
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Thats what I am basically saying

sour crescent
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the only thing i can justify it by

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from what you are saying

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so if we are rotating around yaxis

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In the end it's all about finding h which should be a positive difference. So drawing what you need to subtract should clear your doubt.

In worst case the difference is negative, but good news is you will still get in terms of absolute value the same result, just in negative, so you can put a minus infront

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find the outer function on the xaxis

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Yea so here in terms of horizontal height (x-axis) y^(1/3) is outer and y/4 inner

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does my system seem to work

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im trying it on other problems

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yeah ok it works

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What system

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what do they mean when they say in the w space?

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I am getting this for the fourier transformation

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its going to look like a cosine that decays in amplitude

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can someone please explain how they went from the first line to last line?

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the question is to find fourier transformation of cos(t)

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do you know the Fourier transform of 1?

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its well known

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yes, $\mathbb{F}[1] = \delta(\omega)$

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and how do you write F[1]

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in integral?

potent edge
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this right

dry copper
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their version is quite hard, ours is simpler

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$\mathbb{F}[1] = \delta(\omega) \ \ \int_{- \infty}^{\infty} e^{-i \omega t} , dt = \delta(\omega)$

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wait, no

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their s is frequency

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our w is angular frequency

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the formula is

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but

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now i have trouble understanding why fourier of 1 is that

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i will watch a video

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ill tell you

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$\mathbb{F}[1] = 2 \pi , \delta(\omega) \ \ \int_{- \infty}^{\infty} e^{-i \omega t} , dt = 2 \pi , \delta(\omega)$

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when you subsitute w by w+2, you get 2 pi delta of w+2

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so is that clear

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yup

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shall we move to why the first line is correct?

potent edge
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yeaaa

dry copper
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okay, so, when you try to go from time domain to frequency domain

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you find trouble computing the integral and extracting delta

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even i dont know how to do it

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buuut, the good thing is

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take in frequency domain delta(w)

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and compute its inverse fourier transform

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you will find 1/(2 pi)

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what i want to say is... if you go forward from time to frequency, you cant show it

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but backward, from frequency to time, you can easily show it

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using inverse fourier transform

potent edge
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ohhhh so we try to find the inverse

dry copper
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yeah, go find inverse of delta(w)

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i dont know any krnocker delta lol

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its the impulse function

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which has as property

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dirac delta

dry copper
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$\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} \delta(t) , dt = 1$

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okay so

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you got it, you proved it?

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that its inverse is 1/(2 pi)

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yeaaa so delta(t) = integral of e^iwt

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secret clubs

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mhm, nice

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,w maclaurin log(1+x)

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This is the question I need help in:

Find the set of values for 'k' for which the equation 3x^4 + 4x^3 - 2x^2 + k = 0 has four real roots.

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It is known that pressure is IP to the volume that contains a certain amount of gas. To what pressure is a gas subjected, if by increasing this pressure by 10 atmospheres the volume varies 2/7 of its value?
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C) 14 atmospheres D) 32 atmospheres E) 35 atmospheres

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If I have 3 planes and i want to know if they intersect or not ,
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To answer your question, no because they may intersect somewhere where Z =/= 0

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it's like

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i feel like if i can find a quartic equation

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i can just find the discriminant of it

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and solve the inequality discriminant>0

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but quartic equation ain't a part of my syllabus

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You know what is derivative?

mossy dagger
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uh yes! d/dx?

stone kiln
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You can solve it by it graphics

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graphics?

main sigil
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by sketching the graph, if you know where the derivative is positive, negative and 0, you can create a quite good sketch of the function

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bruh i gotta draw now?

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is that the only way?

stone kiln
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You only need to sketch

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okay if i sketch then what's next?

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3x^4 + 4x^3 - 2x^2 = -k and then right and left side of equation are function and you can sketch it
f(x) = 3x^4 + 4x^3 - 2x^2
g(x) = -k
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Lets first do g(x) what is it?

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For example if k=1 what is grapth of g(x)

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i'd probably do this question by first finding the maxima and minima of 3x^4 + 4x^3 - 2x^2

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once you have hose you know k has to lie between the minima and maxima for 4 solutions

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i understand

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Graph allow you to see how many solution it has for specific k

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How would you graph f'(1) does not exist ?

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,w plot abs(x)

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|x| is famously not differentiable at 0

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no idea what you're trying to do

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f PRIME is not defined at x = 1

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but f is

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help me solve for x

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x cant be 7

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multiply throughout by x-7

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just subtract 1 and flip

river willow
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that is the easiest way yea

sinful brook
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so subtract one from both sides?

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y-1=x-7?

bright quarry
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no

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$y-1 = \frac{1}{x-7}$

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then just take the reciprocal

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and add 7

sinful brook
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then i multiply both sides by x-7?

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you could

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bright quarry
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what

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$\frac{1}{y-1} + 7 = x$

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i’m so confused 😭

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is this supposed to be finding the inverse function or something?

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no im just solving for x

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why

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that’s what the question is asking

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it just says solve for x

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I tried to prove that an image of a sphere from far enough away results in essentially parallel rays at the image plane. However, I need help rewriting it for clarity.

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How do I use the (f(x) - f(a))/f(a) formula to solve this problem?

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#6.

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Top formula

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It should work since I was given the points (2, 3)

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you mean $\lim_{x \to a} \frac{f(x) - f(a)}{x-a}$

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apparently not

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nope

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nope for?

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a. knief wasn't mentioning the formula that I'm looking for
b. My copy is flawless

waxen patio
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no, I did not copy it correctly

frail heron
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alr, it is normally used for looking derivate of a function

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which can also be used for finding tangent

waxen patio
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Ye that's what I'm doing

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would you be able to walk me through solving it? I keep getting stuck

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no, I get to sleep this time

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It's 5 am here

waxen patio
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ok can you ping someone else to

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the helper up there may be able to resolve your problem

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@bright quarry

simple haven
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As a hint, let a = x - h, and let h -> 0 instead.

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These are equivalent, and this form is significantly more convenient to work with.

waxen patio
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ok. what's the use for the other formula then?

simple haven
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It's equivalent

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Might be useful in some situations

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Depends on the function in question

waxen patio
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The bottom two in my picture

simple haven
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They're also equivalent

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You can use that form as well

waxen patio
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Ok

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plug in x+h or the others, which depends on the definition of a derivative that is being used.

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e.g.,

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can someone explin

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so if z=0 it suffices to find vectors x,y such that

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$x \cross y = 0$

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now any 2 parallel vectors will cross to the 0 vector

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hence it isn't true

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that just comes from the cross product

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what do u know about the cross product so far?

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well x X x = 0

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cuz there's not really a unique solution to finding something orthogonal to X and itself

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and the direction matters

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x X y = - y X x

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btw i kinda got this question, and i have another about the scalar equation of a plane

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in the form n1x1 + n2x2 + n3x3 = d

where n = [n1, n2, n3] normal vector and x1, x2, x3 variable for any point in the plane

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what does D represent?

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it feels like a y-intercept when you're solving sometimes because once you find the normal vector you have to sub in a point and solve for D then you're done

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if instead we had 2 vectors that are parallel

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then there's not really a unique vector that's perpendicular to x and say kx

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hope that made sense

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no but how is that derived

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cuz in the original definition, the scalar equation of a line is derived from the dot product of the normal against any line PQ where P is some point and Q is x1, x2, x3

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which equals 0

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Solve w Limit Comparison Test

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could u compare it with 1/n^3/2

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then you only need to know the convergence of 1/(n^3/2) and whatever cos is

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I think

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its been a while since I touched anything comparison test @civic dune

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the limit of cos is undefined at inf no?

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or DNE rather

cedar nacelle
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yea

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so i cannotu se it

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for the LCT I need some real number A

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as the result of the limit

cedar nacelle
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ah

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i see

civic dune
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unlike the nth term test which allows for DNE 🙄

cedar nacelle
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then isnt the answer unsolvable with lim comparison test

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I know some textbooks use that card

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mine does

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My teacher is trying to get us to focus on one test

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is this true?

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How do I start this? Usually a question like this gives only one equation but now there are two so I'm confused...

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First what do you expect the dimension of the set to be?

pseudo fossil
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Not sure, one?

leaden atlas
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It is reasonable to assume that indeed you are looking for one vector.

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Then by substracting the second equation to the first you get y = 2z and the first to twice the second gives you 3x = 4z. This suggests you fix z to a random value (say 1)

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Do I set up both equations as a matrix first and solve?

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I'm working on part (a). The parameterization of z=2x^2+y^2 is (1,t,2+t^2) because its in the x=1 plane, so we know that x is 1. For y it would be t. And for z we just plug in t and 1 right? am i missing something or is it just this simple?

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huh, ok. Normally when i think something is really simple its because im doing it wrong. So i just wanted clarification

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thank you

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and in part b, what does it mean by analogous?

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or is it just asking me to find another parametrization where instead of it being x=1 its y=3?

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just trying to say it's similar to how it's done in (a)

shrewd nacelle
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ok, so i should just be able to plug in 3 for y then

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wait no

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would i plug in sqrt(3) instead?

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no its 3

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ok, so i did b. now im working on c. how would i determine the equation of the tangent plane here?

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Hey guys, I need assistance.

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Some directions more specifically.

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sure, just ask

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It's an statistics problem and I don't know where to start.

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Basically is this:

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The average value of land and buildings per acre of a sample of farms is R$ 2,500.00, with a standard deviation of R$ 350.00. The dataset has a bell-shaped distribution. Furthermore, it is known that the region considered for the study has 768 farms. Thus, the number of farms that have the value of land and buildings per acre in the interval between R$ 1800.00 and R$ 3200.00 is approximately:

730
760
Impossible to estimate the result
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I've also included the answers for reference.

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*Possible answers.

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It is very tempting to pick the third option because I don't if you can estimate the result using any of the formulas.

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Like standard deviation, mean, median, mode, etc.

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so you have a random variable, say X, which is distributed normally, N(2500, 350^2), and you need to find P(1800<=X<=3200), and then multiply this by 768

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have i understood the question correctly just to confirm?

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You have the average value of real estate property among a sample of data, which is R$ (which is my local currency)2500.

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Which I guess that's the mean, represented by x with a macron.

charred trail
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okay yes, so first, recall how we denote normal distributions, by N(mean, standard deviation^2)

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here, X~N(2500, 350^2)

rare sapphire
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Ok, that tilde is supposed to be on of the X right?

charred trail
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the tilde reads as "X is distributed normally/X follows a normal distribution" with parameters (mean = 2500, sd^2 = 350^2)

rare sapphire
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Ok, sorry I've encountered this format before, lol. My professor never taught this.

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no need to apologise haha

rare sapphire
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He just showed us the bell curve graph and how to find quartiles.

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can someone pls help

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I'm trying to find the distance between A to B

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i found the slope, it gave me 1,43x

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because i did 0 = 1,75x + 2,5

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-2,5 = 1,75x

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-2,5/1,75 = 1,75/1,75

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x = 1,43 am i wrong

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...well that seems to be a correct calculation of where that line intersects the x axis, but i have no idea what you'd be planning on using that number for

unborn creek
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B (?,?)

marsh wigeon
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maybe you could try splitting into x and y components somehow

potent bone
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well B isn't at y = 0

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it's the point where the two lines (y = 1.75x + 2.5 and y = -1.5x + 9) intersect

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turn each side into a right angle triangle sorta thing

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potent bone
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well with both lines you can find the coordinates of B

unborn creek
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oh so wait how would the calculations look like

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well, how do you find the point where two lines intersect?

unborn creek
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i think i would like have to find both of their slopes

marsh wigeon
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just equate them right

potent bone
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the equation of the line is satisfied by every point on the line, and B is a point on both lines, so it's the point that satisfies both equations

unborn creek
potent bone
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then solve that

unborn creek
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ohhhh so like y1 = y2

marsh wigeon
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exactly

unborn creek
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thanks guys

marsh wigeon
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find x then plug it in

unborn creek
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but how would i find y

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cause a point needs both x and y

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x,y

marsh wigeon
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by pluggint it in to any one of the equations

potent bone
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yeah once you have the x you can just put it into the equation of one of the lines

unborn creek
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alright so like by doing it with the (-2,1)?

potent bone
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...no, you'd take the x value of B and put it into one of the equations to get the y value of B

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unborn creek
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alright im solving it right now ill keep u guys updated

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alright so i got x = 2 and y = 3,5

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im assuming those are the points for B?

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yep

potent bone
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wait how did you get 3.5

marsh wigeon
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oh yeah

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i got 6

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i said yep too early

unborn creek
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1,75x + 2,5 = -1.5x + 9

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+1,5x

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both sides

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3,25x + 2,5 = 9

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-2.5 both sides

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3.25x = 6.5

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divide it

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i got 2

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so x = 2 now

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y = 1,75x +2,5

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wait ur right

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i didnt so + 2,5

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do

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i just did 1,75(2)

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whoops

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my mistake

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👍

potent bone
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alright so yeah B is (2,6)

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alright alright

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mind if i ask a question

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help

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ill try to help with bee after this problem

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so bee got it for now

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i have 1 more question

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For A) I got $100

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But I can't find out how to solve B)

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The topic is derivatives

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Really struggling with these two problems down here:

shut spade
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The lecturer mentioned to use double set inclusion for both, but I don't exactly see how in this case

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have you made venn diagrams yet?

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Since the definition of what we're given (A delta B) doesn't give us enough to work with for the double set inclusion (at least, that's what I think)

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Want me to send them?

trail ingot
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what do they look like?

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Sure thing

trail ingot
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it might also help to think of what this means in english. x is in A \Delta B means x is in exactly one of A or B (not both, not neither)

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yea those look fine

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Right right

trail ingot
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errr

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Oh wait what

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Not both?

trail ingot
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yea, like this

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Is that incorrect

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Or

trail ingot
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no

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it's right

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God bless

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Like I'd get it if we had basic operators like AND and OR to manipulate around

trail ingot
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proving something is the empty set by double inclusion seems weird eeveethink

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i wouldn't do that for A \Delta A

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But since this is a completely new operator (from what they've introduced) I wouldn't exactly know how to manipulate the left side to match the right side

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Do you get what I mean

trail ingot
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yea. but it is just AND and OR

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But on the left side right

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How would you prove the left side if a subset of the right

trail ingot
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wait are you talking about b

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Yeah

trail ingot
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oh. in (a) it says to prove you result

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so i thought we were still on that

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Mb

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Should've been clearer

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Yeah part (b)

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Part (a)'s also confusing tbf

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(lol)

trail ingot
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what does it mean for $x$ to be in $(A\setminus B) \cup (B\setminus A)$?

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:bending_skull:

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x exists in A without B and B without A

trail ingot
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i think you mean or, not and

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and what's A without B?

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Right, sorry

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The set A disregarding all elements that exist in B

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(right?)

trail ingot
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sure

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so x is in A\B means x is in A and x is not in B

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Yes

trail ingot
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looks a lot like this

shut spade
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See that's what I was thinking

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But how would you write that

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Also (and I don't mean to be difficult, appreciate all the help I can get) but the Piazza (our student help centre) mentioned 1b should prob use double set inclusion

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there are different ways you can do it, but sure, you can use double inclusion

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I totally get that but I don't exactly know how to write that in a way that's rigorous enough to hand in

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Does that make sense

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yes that makes sense. you are trying to prove 2 sets are equal. let x be an element of one of them, then show x is in the other one

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so....

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Yeah

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OHHHH

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Eureka moment fr

trail ingot
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it should go like: let $x \in A \Delta B$. then... thus $x\in (A\setminus B) \cup (B\setminus A)$

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Yep

solid kilnBOT
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:bending_skull:

shut spade
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Like use that definition above

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To get to A \ B U whatever whatever

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Ofc

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Isn't that kinda weird shifting from words to math symbols

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I'll try the proof out on my own but

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Is there anything I should look out for/

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Got it

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So like

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Let x be an element of A delta B

It follows that x is an element of A and x is not an element of B OR x is an element of B and x is not an element of A

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the key to the proof is that $$x \in A \Delta B$$ is equivalent (by definition) to $$(x\in A \text{ and } x\not\in B) \text{ or } (x\in B \text{ and } x\not\in A)$$ and that's equivalent (by set minus definition) to $$x\in (A\setminus B) \cup (B\setminus A)$$

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:bending_skull:

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I'm not exactly sure what other steps to take bc after this is basically just the end stmtt

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This is what I'm talking about right

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Is that not too simple

trail ingot
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no, the question is pretty simple really

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God bless

trail ingot
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like piazza says, you just need to use the definition of set minus

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Ohhhhhh

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Bro that's goated

trail ingot
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or set difference whatever you wanna call it

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Holy shit you're cracked

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Yeah

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Got it Got it Got it

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Ok I get the first part

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I get the second part

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Would the first part (a) be (b)?

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Same thing we did?

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But this time without the A \ B U whatever

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We're just using the same first definition

trail ingot
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for A \Delta A = \emptyset, i would just write there are no elements x with the property x is in A and x is not in A

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so it is empty

shut spade
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That makes sense

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So no double set inclusion

trail ingot
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yea that would be weird for showing something is the empty set

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I guess like

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You know the empty set is the subset for anything

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So that's easy to prove

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And then the other side

trail ingot
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I'm just gonna follow whatever the instructor wants rs

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And then the one where its A delta empty

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Thank you so much! That really helps

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Wait really quick

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If I wanna get really good at proofs

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How would you do it

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an urn contains r red balls and g green balls. a ball is drawn at random and then it is returned to the urn with k additional balls of the same color. prove by mathematical induction that if n=2,3,… such experiments are made, the probability of a red ball at each draw will always be r/(r+g) and the probability of a green ball will always be g/(r+g)

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Did i do the formula correct

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this isnt their channel mate

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