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2pi?
What?
4pi?
Are you just guessing?
no i try
Okay, so you said sin is periodic, it repeats for example as you said it
how i can rewerite that?
sin(x+2pi) = sin(x).
yes sin(x+2pi) have a period on 2pi
yup exactly.
So we can rewrite it as sin(x)
Let's go back now to sin(2npi + pi/2)
how can we rewrite this as?
sinx?
and what is x here?
0
What, how?!
x->0
2npi +pi/2 = 0?
then later?
we want to rewrite sin(2npi + pi/2)
how i can rewrite that?
as sin(pi/2)
this was the case when x = 1/(1/2 + 2n)
when n goes to infinity, x goes to 0
it's a subsequence
so if we always get sin(pi/2) for this subsequence
then this converges to sin(pi/2) = 1
but what if we pick say x = 1/(-1/2 + 2n)
then we get that sin(-pi/2) = -1
ooh
so for two different subsequences we find that they convergence to two different limits
thus the limit for sin(pi/x) cannot exist as x goes to 0
and so what you should take away here is to not trust silly programs like the one you showed eariler
Thx i can see
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If its X^2/2X^2 y = 1/2 so if x is 3 in that faction overal, y is 6
is this how it works?
but you have to figure out the overal equivelant to plot?
So the ratio between the numerator and denominator is what decides the value of y?
But im guessing this is only the case if the Powers are the same on both numerator and denominator so then you check the leading coefficient for the ratio
if numerator power is bigger then y = x always, no matter what. if denominator is bigger, y = 0 is always, thats a rule?
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I'm trying to do the chicken mcnugget theorem for 8 9 and 10, And I saw in the original that the original 6 9 20 was used to formulate from 20*9 - 9 - 20 = 151 which disregards the 6, would this work too for 8,9,10? Such that the answer would be 90 - 19 = 71?
Chicken mcnugget theorem?
Are u referring to that one numberphile video?
Yuh, it's frobenius coin problem, mn-m-n
Hm sorry can’t help with that, hopefully someone else knowledgeable about the chicken McNugget theorem can chime in
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Someone help plis,this is making me crazy
Just exagerating,but I’ve calculating for like 40 minutes without finishing it
Out of curiosity you seen to have division as your largest on the bottom left?
Yes
Wouldn't division have the smallest value?
you should realise that the logs are irrelevant
Yea but that how the puzzle is given to me
You can't rearrange?
Nah and it’s part of my summer assignment so I can’t contact the teacher either
I’m still confused about it
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this is a p series right>
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Is problem 1, 2, and 4 correct? Also how would you do problem 3?
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bcuz the 2 lines are parrallel-> u can conclude that the big tri is similar to teh small one
ye?
lets call the 3 sizes of the big one x1 y1 z1, respectively similar to the small one x2 y2 z2
ok
*the
-> x2 = 7/12 x1; y2 = 7/12 y1; z2 = 7/ 12 z1
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just prove that they are equal
sun the values of p and q
notice that $p^2+q^2-2pq=(p-q)^2$
convergence
we know what is p-q
now just sub p,q for it
just do it you just need to prove that eq is equal to 0
nah you just need to prove that its equal to 0
yes
there are many methods to do that but the method of just doing it is the best
the other methods are long and honestly a waste of time
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Haiii Help plss
😭 Everyone is busy someone pls
Ok
What are the conditions for a function to be differentiable
If such conditions are satisfied, there is a unique derivative
yes
yes
The derivative must approach same value from left and right, right?
Um limits
So, no sharp turns, no cusps, no vertical line
Because sharp turns result in different limits
yes
So, does the first one have a unique derivative at (0,0)?
No
Right?
Yes then for second one its no and 3-4 one is yes.Am i correct?
Yes
Then the answer will be 2 curves
Yes
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How??
make two axes on your grid
one in the left-right direction and the other in the up-down direction
and draw in the vector sum A+B and B+A
This???
hardly bro im meant to learn it for physics
okay so
scalar addition is just adding the two values
2 and 9 are both scalars, and 2+9 = 11
That is simple
But vectors aren't just magnitudes, they also have direction
so is this wrong
Oh okay
but before that
vector addition instead sums up the magnitudes in each direction
so the vector A is 4 cm to the right or the vector from (0,0) to (4, 0)
vector B is 3 cm downwards or the vector from (0,0) to (0, -3)
A goes 4 in the positive x-direction and B goes 3 in the negative y-direction
does that make sense
yeah
So algebraically, vector addition is adding up the magnitudes in each direction
A+B = [ 4 + 0 , 0 + (-3) ] = [4, -3]
but geometrically its like attaching the two vectors "tip to tail" where you attach the start of the second vector to the tip of the first one and draw the resulting vector
Like this
C = a + b
and its the vector you get from drawing a line from the start of A to the end of B if you attach B to A
Its like
like that?
The sides of the triangle are just B and A
But B+A is actually just the hypotenuse
how
wait whats going on here
how did you draw these arrows
It's okay
Honestly I would really recommend watching a video that explains vector addition because I don't think I am doing it justice
This physics video tutorial focuses on the addition of vectors by means of components analytically. It explains how to find the magnitude and direction of the resultant force vector. This video contains all of the formulas and equations needed to resolve a vector into its components and to use that in order to find the magnitude and direction ...
This is a good one
Suited for physics
alright
thanks
a+b would be 5 right
@simple warren i also have substractig vectors
A-B and B-A
a isn't just 4, b isn't just 3, and a+b isn't just 5
they have those magnitudes, but they aren't just their magnitudes
since they are vectors, they also have direction
yeah, but watch the video I highly urge you to do that
You will be able to do the subtracting ones with ease too
alr
dm me if you still have questions after watching
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hey can anyone hel me with the highlighted question
Essaye d'encadrer la fonction f entre deux valeurs
e^-x est bornée entre deux valeurs pour x>0
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Hello. I solved this problem and I think I messed up somewhere. It does not match the correct answer in the answer key. I cannot find where I went wrong.
here is my work:
and this is the answer in the answer key:
I dont know how there is a 8 in the denominator in the answer key answer.
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Let y' = v(x)
y'' = v'(x)
xv' - 7v(x) = 0
v' - 7v(x)/x = 0
(x =! 0)
dv/dx = 7v/x
Antiderivative of x^7 at the end ?
I think so, im working through what you have typed out
how do you end up with x^7 though?
oh I see. It would be x dv/dx - 7v = 0. Then I would move the 7v over and take the integral. Thank you.
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How would I show that some given set is a submanifold of $\mathbb{R}^n$ ?\
For instance, that ${(x,y)\in \mathbb{R}^2 \mid \frac{x^3}{y^2+1}=1 }$ is a submanifold of $\mathbb{R}^2$
Bob Goldham
not necessarily for that set only, but I figure that an example might be helpful for this
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(We defined a submanifold of euclidean space as follows:)
Bob Goldham
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can you explain further
It wasnt the way after thinking
Open a new channel
how
Drop the image of the problem in the free help channel above this section
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Can the angle bisector ever not hit the other side of the triangle at a point?
no in my opinion
but be aware that there are 2 types of angle bisectors
outter and inner sth i forgor
but ye the outerone doesnt hit
but the inner one (if that is what ur mentioning) does hit
so ? O.o
i have an exercise
Given a triangle 𝐴𝐵𝐶 that is not isosceles. In this triangle, the measure of the angle 𝐴𝐵𝐶 is
twice as large as the measure of angle 𝐵𝐴𝐶.
Show that the lengths of the sides of this triangle satisfy the condition
AC^2=BC^2+AB*BC
this is my sol
and I was told my the examiner that some triangle doesnt exist in some cases?
,rotate
cant think of one
the quesiton is this ?
yes/mo quese 💀 ?
omg
this is the exercise
coukd you please also check the screenshot
i mean picture
if its done correctly
huh ?
from tangent
ye how
💀
4/10 ?
whole exam?
ye
40/50
ye
ooof
its such a big deal cuz its university admission exam
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dang just 1 ques i just researched
uni in polan is 13-15
ppl do this when they are 13 💀 ?
from 18 and so on is uni ?
from 19
oh i got it, sry for ur time :3
np ty you your time
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bro someone plz help im going crazy
tried this shit for a good 30 mins still cant figure out
try to square on both sides
it will remove the square root
try it for both equations
bro i literally did that
i m stuck after that part
i am getting
4x=(20y/x)+(16x/5y)
i cant proceed firther
yep
yes
What if you simplify this?
is it a integer based question?
bro how
make a system of equations and solve for x,y?
then calculate x²+y² based off of that
ok I got the asnwer
first square the first equation
and then you would get [(x+y)^1/2 + (x-y)^1/2]^2
and use the (a+b)^2 formula
yo i tried trial error, i put x as 5 and y as 1, and both sides are equating but answer is coming 26
howw
?
uhh thats what i did, howd you get the answer
I don't really know how to use the texit
do it for both equations
yes i squared both sides
Send the pic of your soln
alrigth
i got
ye plz send
Alaska
u can tho
it says 'use apps'
Just tell us the process
ok so in the first equation
yes bro fr just tell how u did it
square both sides
[root(x+y) + root(x-y) ]^2 after squaring
then simplify
do it for the second equation
and then add?
just simplify you would get it
bro what simplify
solve for x^2 in first and y^2 in second
are u supposed to add? tell yes or no
no
then what
how?
how did you simplify this?
use (a+b)^2
then how did you get x^2 from this?
square again
bro if u simplify it, youd get 20y/x= x+y+x-y +2root(x^2-y^2)
youd still get smth in roots
how
my step is lengthy bc I squared💀 but yea you can just solve for root x^2 -y^2
forgive me for not telling this before
then equate
you can leave the root and equate or just square and equate(lenghty)
Did you get anything like this?
no
wait ill send mine
ugghhhhh
then tell whats worng
Next step?
solve for (x^2-y^2) and equate both equations (square it)
nah bro doesn't work
Just get the damn app😭
nahh bro u capping
are you sure the equations are correct?
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how plz send pic
I hope you’ll understand the writing 🥹
Ohhhh, finally understood, thx so much bro
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(y+2)^2 + (x+1)^2 = 25
(ax + by + c)/sqrt(a^2 + b^2) = 5
y = mx + c
-mx + y - c
((-m)(-2) + (1)(-2) + c)/sqrt((-m)^2 + (1)^2) = 5
(2m - 2 + c)/sqrt(m^2 + 1) = 5
I still have 2 unknowns, not sure what to do next
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Hum
have you used the fact that m(-1) + b = - 17?
But then I have a different 2 unknowns, right?
yes
you could do a different method though
use these 2 facts:
f(-1) = m*-1 + b = -17
f(x) = c in one point only
f(x) = c in one point only
Wym by this sry?
f(x) is a tangent line of the circle c, so c and f(x) intersect in one point only (by the definition of a tagent line)
b = -17 + m
we can now rewrite f(x) as m*x -17 - m
and now
mx - 17 - m - c = 0. You will when putting back in c, you will end up with some quadratic equation.
Use the quadratic formula and whatever is under the square root (also known as the discriminant) will be some function of m. Remember that the quadratic formula will give you 1 result if and only if whatever under the square root is 0
and since f(x) intersects c in one point (cause its tangent to c) you are looking for what "m" will make whatever is under the square root equal to 0
Im still not following completely sry
Heres what i did to get that step:
f(-1) = -17; so
-m + b = -17
b = -17 + m
oof i just realised i made a mistake
Wait why does f(-1)=17?
because the tangent line goes through the point P(-1,-17)
so at that point the function mx + b needs to satisfy m*-1 + b = -17
f(x) = y = mx + b is the function of the tangent line
we also know that this line passes through the point (x=-1;y=-17)
this means that f(-1) = -17
by defintion f(-1) = m(-1) + b
so -m + b = -17
Ok yes
I get you now
so b = -17 + m
What do we do with this? We still have 2 unknowns
cause now we can change the function f(x) = mx + b with the fact that we know that b = -17 + m
f(x) = mx + b
b = - 17 + m
=> f(x) = mx -17 + m
whats the other unknown?
the x?
x isnt an unknown, its just a variable, cause its a function not an expression.
you will just recieve -17 = -17
the reason as to changing b into that so that we have a function with only one unknown: m
now you need to see when f(x) and the circle intersect
from there try to get a quadratic equation. Solve with the quadratic formula, treat "m" as just some number thats part of the equation.
After solving with the quadratic formula you will reach a point where you have something with m under the square root. Since we want the functions to intersect in one point only. this will happen when whatever is under the square root is equal to 0. So you will need to find m such that whatever is under the square root is 0. From their you will get your value of m (there might be 2) and then the value of b cause b = -17 + m
I dont understand, what about the x and y?
Theyre just variables yes but we still need to get rid of them,
you can get rid of the y by changing the circle into a function. This will cut half of the circle off, but we can treat each half seperately
cause we will have
y = mx -17 + m
y = (the circle but as a function)
now since they're both equal to y:
mx - 17 + m = (the circle as a function)
I'm sorry but my brain is exhausted from this question 😭
I need a quick break
Thank you for helping me this far
No problem hahaha, math is exhausting lol
Np! If you have any issue changing the circle into a function, check out this link ||https://www.symbolab.com/solver/solve-for-equation-calculator/solve for y%2C y^{2} %2B 4y %2B x^{2} %2B 2x - 20 %3D 0?or=input||
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thankss :]
Ahh ye I will
Thanks again!!
yw!
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
can you show the work?
well i kind of just did it
almost right
order it by the chain rule to clearly see
like this?
how do i do chain rule here
well it's $\ln(\bsq)$
hayley 🥥 🌴
yea ik that the derivative is d/dx of inside / the inside
but i dont get how u do the chain rule here
1/x
and u in this case is that fraction right?
yea
ok so write down 1 over that fraction
then a dot
then find the derivative of that fraction
using whatever method you want
that would be one way or if you know the quotient rule you could do that
i tried doing the quotient rule but i just got 0
doesn't seem right
what do i do
Could you show your calculations?
ik i should use the chain rule then quotent rule but idk how to do chain rule first
How did you get 0?
Did you work out the brackets?
I don’t see what you’ve done here…
oh wait i forgot to distribute the e^x to both the 1 and the -e^x in the parenthesis
would e^x * e^x just be e^2x
yes
small error here
oh it would be plus
and I don’t think you can simplify it anymore
,w is the derivative of ((1+e^x)/(1-e^x)) equal to (2e^x/(1-2e^x+e^(2x)))?
yes, we still need to do a bit.
It looks right, I’ll verify with wolframalpha
dont we need to simplify?
,w is the derivative of ln((1+e^x)/(1-e^x)) equal to (2e^x/(1-2e^x+e^(2x)))/((1+e^x)/(1-e^x))?
I don’t know how it works in your country, for mine there is a rule that states that every version of the answer must be counted correctly. (Except when they explicitly state otherwise in the question)
what do you mean by counted
that you get full marks for it
ok so no need to simplify that any further?
,w simplify (2e^x/(1-2e^x+e^(2x)))/((1+e^x)/(1-e^x))
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how to solve thijs
what was the original question
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Hello
Why did they use the distance formula as their comparsion for Lagrange Multiplier?
f gives you the distance (squared) from the origin at every point in space, that's what you want to minimize
g is the constraint (the plane itself)
Does that mean I can use Lagrange Multiplier for this question too?
Of course
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Problem 15
Idk where to start or what to do
Hint: complete the square (you'll have to expand everything out first)
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Like 14((a + b + c)^2 - 2ac - 2bc - 2ab))?
Oh
Ok I try
How do I do that
I expanded it but idk how to complete the square with three variables
split it up
Spoiler alert: You should have something resembling (...)^2 + (...)^2 + (...)^2 = 0
I’m stuck on that
13a^2 + 10b^2 + 5c^2 = 4ab + 12bc + 6ac
$13a^2+10b^2+5c^2-4ab-12bc-6ac=0$
Civil Service Pigeon
I'll start with the -4ab term as an example
can you think of any binomials that have a -4ab in their expansion when squared?
Maths club
(a - 2b)^2?
any others?
(2a - b)^2?
yeah
now I'll give this to you
(a-2b)^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 - 4ab
(2a-b)^2 = 4a^2 + b^2 - 4ab
if we go for the first option, (a-2b)^2
we're left with a 6b^2 we still need to group into another perfect square
which is ... not ideal.
so it makes sense to go for (2a-b)^2$
And doing that, we get $$(2a-b)^2+9a^2+9b^2+5c^2-12bc-6ac=0$$
Civil Service Pigeon
see if you can continue the process
$(2a - b)^2 + (3a - c)^2 + (4c - 3b)^2$?
Yuki
recheck this one
Yuki
Civil Service Pigeon
Yep
can you finish it now?
I’ll try

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if t is the time, and they want to know what "eventually" happens, they're basically asking what the limit of your population is as time approaches infinity
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ik that but how to
like
answer
how to take the limit as t approaches infinity of 1000 / (1 + 60e^(-t))?
like i used desmos and put in randomnumbers and it maxes at 1000
yes
are you in calculus?
pre calc
ohh
well from a oversimplified standpoint, think about what your function "approaches" as t gets really big
60e^(-t) is the same as 60 / e^t
e^t gets really big as t gets really big
yes
that means 60 / e^t gets really small
tends to 0
so 1000 / (1 + 60e^(-t)) tends to 1000 / (1 + 0)
so basically since e^t just goes on infinitely it will basically go to 0 at one point so than it maxes out at 1000 because it becomes 1+0 on teh bottom?
yes
60e^(-t) goes to 0 as t goes to infinity
1 + 60e^(-t) goes to 1
and 1000 / (1 + 60e^(-t)) goes to 1000 / 1 = 1000
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can we use summation as integration for non convergent summation
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how do i determine what x is from here?
sorry for messy ms paint
cause these are to the power of 3, you can start by changing the base to 3 and just simplifying them individually
or you can just write sqrt27 as a power of 3 straight and then write 81 as a power of 3 and divide the powers
so.. sqrt 27 = 3^3/2
81 = 3^4
3^4 / 3^3/2 ?
divide the powers
cause now they have the same base
4/(3/2)
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is there a term for what this is called?
if its hard to get your head around, change the base to 3 and then youll be able to see it easier
nah its just simplifying logs
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What is going on with this problem?
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what type of math is this?
competition math or competitive math. I'm not competing, I'm just curious
just waiting
@tepid fractal sorry
Can we assume the shape of L? To make everything easy and actually comprehensive
Like a hexagon
idk, idk what is the problem talking about
this is just question 2/5 on the competition
supposedly, it's an easy problem💀
Probably assuming is the thing they thought makes it easy
Cause hell nah, I'm not talking a n sided polygon for this
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How do I do - Have no answers
S_n=n/2[2a+(n-1)d]=3n^2-17n
try make the right look like the left, you can then get a and d from that
Ok thanks
But I tried the terms and they got nothing to do with a arithmetic sequence
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Do I don’t know what d is
So
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I'm not really sure how to approach this question
I know how to take do curlF but I'm not sure what to do after that
I would need to make a vector function of t right?
It says to use Stokes so you dont need curl F
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well it seems like what's wanted is to use stokes to relate this to an integral through a simpler surface
otherwise you have to do 4 path integrals
you can just integrate w.r.t x and y right? i have no idea what "make a vector function of t" means
So we wouldn't need curl F?
I think I'm struggling on figuring out what the normal vector would be
Try to parametrize the 4 line segments
oh ok
it says to use stokes to reformulate the integral in terms of a simple area
convert it to a curve integral, then back to a surface integral
right here
the bottom is not included
in S
since it's bottomless we would integrate over the boundary which is the 4 line segments
bruh
would I need the eqution of the bottom plane?
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idk if it is ok to read, but it is saying
A can measuring 20 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm, without a lid, is supported by a support, so that one of its shorter edges rests on the horizontal plane and the longer edges form an angle of 45" with the horizontal plane, as shown in the figure. Suppose a liquid is placed in the can, up to height hin relation to the horizontal plane, also as indicated in the figure.
Explain why the maximum height the liquid will reach is 10√2 cm and calculate the volume of liquid in the can when that height is reached.
notice how there is the direction in which every slice of the volume of liquid has exactly the same area
so this is really a planar geometry problem
so i don't need to use things related to 3d forms
i suppose "maximum height" is up to the brim
probably
you can split area nto a triangle and a parallelogram, triangle has sides 10cm, 10cm, sqrt(2) 10cm, and parallelogram has base sqrt(2)10cm and height h - (1/2)sqrt(2)10cm
you can get areas and get volume
oh you also have 20cm/sqrt(2) = h
you mean something like it
idk the h of parallellogram
but you do know side of the triangle right?
also what are the angles in this parallelogram?
so it's just a rectangle then
yeah
what about the triangle, what are the angles there?
90 and 45 i think
90, 45, and 45?
yes
which means sides near the equal angles are also equal
yes
great
still need to find the height of the rectangle tho
for that consider the triangle they have drawn in the diagram
maybe it's 5 because the entire side is 20 and we know the triangle is 10
but we are not sure about that
it actually depends on how full the vessel is
so that's the piece of information you haven't used yet, h
hint: the trick is to find the hypotenuse of the triangle that is drawn next to the can
i am thinking about
actually
arent we supposed to find the 10√2 cm thing
wait
so it is that
the purple side
is 10√2 cm
if a triangle is right angled you can use pythagoras theorem
alright
the height of the rectangle, as well as the side of the triangle you have marked in yellow