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The equation
How tho
So you have $u^2-u-2=0$ where $u=\lg x$
otheol
Right?
Yea
You can factor the left hand side by trying to rephrase it into something that looks like $(u+a)(u+b)$
otheol
Yea right
Do you know how you could solve for a and b here?
Yea I think so
Give it a shot
Dang
No
Wait
The rootsmare wrong
Roots are
It is -1 and 2
And find the roots of a equation by completing square method or factoring
Substitute them in thr original quadratic to check weather your roots are correct or wrong
K
Also learn the formula -b+-sqrt.....
Is it the discriminant u mean?
Google it :))
Discriminant is a part of it
The pq formel
?
Yes
^
So I just flipped the 1 and -2
This is correct
Yess
Since you have (u + 1)(u - 2) = 0, either u + 1 = 0 or u - 2 = 0
Oh yea
I thought the other way around cause I figured a was positive
But yea thanks for the help
Rlly appreciate it
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No clue how to start
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Am I doing this right?
I need to use difference quotient
To find the slope thing in y-y2=m(x-x2)
Thingy
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what are you trying to get? the intersection?
no just quotient difference thing
Tangent line
I am doing it wrong somehow
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kk wait let me look at it
the only thing is that the 3 should be negative and take the radical out of the denominator
Yea
is ur teacher making u guys do it the long way or are u allowed to use the power rule
bc it would be much more efficient
long way
aw darn
i have 3/squareroot(-6x) + sqaureroot 6
is that right
there must be a hole somewhere since that 6 is negative which would just give you an imaginary number
maybe instead of dealing with the roots just raise it all to the 1/2 power
i had to have done something wrong
just check over it u prob missed a negative thats it
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can somebody tell me where they got 2a=8 please?
Use method of undetermined coefficient
what does that mean
How do u usually find PI
Methods of variation of parameters?
Wait how
Right right
Are u learning non homogeneous
i have no idea but i learnt this in high school and im relearning
for a test
so im going through some solutions
okay gtg thank u again]
they put y=a right
ya
It works when there's a constant in right hand side ig
But when there's another function
Nvm
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is this right
-4
Yeppers
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if this was a power series
would i have to rerwrite the x^2n
or do i justu se the ratio tst
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I am reading about complexity theory and I came across the claim that we don't know if $BPP \subseteq NP$. However, shouldn't this be the case since a probabilistic turing machine is simply a type of nondeterministic turing machine? I feel like I am missing something obvious in my reading
Nash
Here is an example of what I'm talking about
a probabilistic turing matchine doesn’t have to be right every time
for something (a problem or set A) to be in NP there has to be a ND TM M deciding A and M has to be 100% accurate
but that also sounds like bpp is worse
Ah good point. Thanks
wdym?
you have to specify what you mean by worse here
okay so
a non deterministic machine chooses all paths at the same time
a probabilisitic machine chooses one
so it's not a type of non deterministic machine at all
is that right?
It is, the nondeterminism comes from the randomness
ok but it's not as powerful
Determinism means that we make the same decision from state to state each time, randomness introduces nondeterminism
Well, probably not but it is technically possible though very unlikely that $NP \subseteq BPP$ would would make it as powerful
Nash
i don;t get it
In this case, if by "powerful" we mean have the most problems included in it, then BPP might be "more powerful" than NP but we also have the probability of failure
we have a mchine that chooses a path according to a distribution
and we have a mchine that chooses the best possible path
But there are no problems we can guarantee 100% success with using just randomness that can't also have the same thing happen with general nondeterminism since randomness is just one type of nondeterminism
it’s also not known whether BPP subset P actually
Right
okay, bpp is easier because you;re allowed epsilon mistakes
Not epsilon actually, just any amount not arbitrarily close to 1/2
Because then polynomial iterations reduces it
and harder at the same time because the machine is stupider
or the other way around
fair enough
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what does this mean
i though you couldnt multiply matricies like this
and null means equaling the matrix to zero
i dont get ti
it
someone please explain
Why couldn't you multiply them?
the left one is 3x4
the right one is 4x1
so the columns of the first match the rows of the second
meaning you can multiply them
and the result will be a 3x1 matrix
which is shown
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if the AM of two numbers a and b , a>0; b>0 is five times more than their GM find $\frac{a+b}{a-b}$
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that sounds overly complicated
find a similar formula for (a-b)^2
,w (x+1)² = 100x
I mean 96 ab
you should be able to get the answer with this
sorry
close enough
yes
then yes
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shouldn't it be -x^2+ x + 12 = 0?
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im on part C of this question
i dont understand why the markscheme says cost cannot be -1/2
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I think my answer is correct but this exersie is kind messing with me with the way its worded ¿is it correct?
that looks correct to me
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Anyone have any idea how to solve this?
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(x^2)+(y^2)=6.x.y according to this, What is the answer of? (x^3)/(y^3)+(y^3)/(x^3)
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<@&286206848099549185> guys please help i dont know what to do really
Idk
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so x/y + y/x = 6
= 6 or = 6xy?
=6xy bro
plus symbol?
is multiplications sign ???
yes but its like not in the line
a lil up from it
⋅ this
yh but its discord its not like u can write LaTeX in here right ?
yes but @trim jolt
here
i think this is the most progression so far
its more in the form of the answer
but now u can say that x/y = 6-y/x
and substitute ?
it may be related to the expansion (x^3)+(y^3)
[(a+b)^3]-3ab(a+b)
i'll try this
so 216-3ab(6)
how can i find ab?
is ab a function of 6 ?
ah man how did i forget
ab means (x/y)(y/x)
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so the answer is 198
thx everyone who tried to help
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How like i cant find the middlepoint angle so I dont
Quick please its like ez math
Like v2 + 180(M) sound be like the angle of v1 + v3
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I am getting frustrated in the coding language R and would love some small assistance.
This is what I currently was helped with, but I wanted to add a section of the code that allows the user to input some value of "n"
Something along the lines of this, but inputs the integer into the function that is made.
instead of having the function take an argument, you can just write the first line as
myfun <- function() {
n <- readline(prompt='Enter a number: ')
n <- as.integer(n)
#etc.
}
You are a blessing.
and by the way, when indexing a variable, you need to use square brackets, not parentheses. so it would be x[i], not x(i)
R 
That is the error that now comes up
I just tested it and it works... what are the first couple lines of the function?
oh, and you don't call it like print(myfun); you should just type myfun() to run it
if you want to view the contents of the function, you can just type the function name alone: myfun
out[i], with square brackets. in both places in the function
and you can remove the input argument from the function definition. so just myfun = function() {
I remember a "true" part that was discussed in class. But I did not think that was needed since it is an "if-else" statement
the error is in the loop definition there. it should be for (i in 1:n) {
since n is the length of the variable you are looping over
HOLY COW!!! IT WORKS!!!
I basically need to just cite you for this question... Thank you deeply.
yw
Well now I have a technical issue...
It runs in my general code, but when I try to Render it, it halts the download.
it probably has to do with readline
Am I not allowed to put for it to be rendered properly?
so readline is intended to be used in an interactive session, but rendered documents are non-interactive.
do you call the function later in the document?
This is the only question where it asks for this, I do not use it again.
if you don't call it later in the document, I think you can add eval=FALSE as a chunk option
I will make a separate note though that I tired to add this since it mentioned feeding the function an integer.
It ran once I added the "#". Goly there are many rules to code.
yeah, it takes some getting used to
I really do appreciate the help and I am constantly learning from this class and you!
yw
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Can somebody help with this? I am stuck after putting everything in the augmented matrix
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ye Ill put in there
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let $g : (0, +\infty) \to \mathbb{R}$ be defined by $g(x) = 3 + \ln(x) -x$ find im(g)
938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71
define im
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Is that just the range of the function then?
yes I think they are asking range
Aight, how would you approach this?
lowkey unsure, any ideas?
Well we know this function is differentiable and continuous since it's made up of elementary functions which are the same right?
I hope that's correct lol
yes
Then we can derive it and solve g'(x) = 0
then check the maximums and minimums and based on that find the range
yeah
and by maximums and minimums you mean absolute maxima and absolute minima not just local minima
yeah
okay
So what's the first derivative of this?
,w solve 1/x - 1 = 0
note x isn't 0 since it's not in the function domain
so it being in the bottom of a fraction is no problem
right so this function has one critical point at x=1
what's the value of the function at that point?
its minimum
I thought positive sign in the critial point was the way to analyze that
positive sign meaning minimum
negative meaning maximum
Not quite
you have to take the second derivative
and check it's sign at that point
no just take the second derivative
plug in x = 1
and see if it's positive or negative
then apply that rule you said
-x^(-2) is g''(x)
alternatively plug in x = 0.9 and x = 1.1 in the orignal function and sketch the results
g''(1) = -1^(-2)
but this is like cheating
So that result is negative right?
Meaning our point is an ...
yes, its maximum
right
Well it's the only maximum there is
how do you know that
Because it's the only solution to the equation g'(x) = 0
true
And since there's no minimums
and we know the function is differentiable and continuous
we can conclude that the function has no values above 2
and since it has no minimums it should have all value to -inf going down
unless there's like a horizontal asymptote, might wanna check the limit too I guess
like, the limit of g(x) as x approaches inf
Just in case
how so?
You can also e.g. check what happens as you approach zero too 
As for this, well in order to go above 2 the function would have to wind up at some point again, which would require a minimum, since there are no minimums it can't do that
Rolle's theorem or something
You can also e.g. check the behaviour of the derivative to deduce if you're increasing/decreasing either side "forever"
Or you can do what I love to do and just use desmos lol
I dont know how to graph it without desmos haha
Yeah, well you're not supposed to
At least not on exams, but like, let math be freeee
if we know there is no minimum, what can that says about the graph
long live software tools
It tells us that after the maximum it can never go up again
basically
do I need to check the limit of x approaching 2?
since going up again would require a minimum
not necessary, you know the value of g(2)
[wait, what's the relevance of g(2) here?]
how do I find vertial and horizontal asymptotes
it's the maximum
for vertical ones you check the limit of the function as it approaches a suspicious point
[isn't g(1) = 2 the max?]
ah yes I mixed it up
sus like x = 2, or x = 1?
oh
finite border point*
[you'd want to think about where you're doing "illegal stuff" like dividing by zero, log of zero, etc etc]
[hence-]
basically ask yourself "where would a function want to conduct a drug deal" and then check that
what about about the horizontal asymptotes though!
you check those with the limit to inf and -inf
since -inf isn't in the domain for this one
you just check +inf
,, \lim_{n \to \infty+} 3 + \ln(x) - x
938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71
thats literally -inf
but the graph does not agree
it is
and it does
as the function goes to the right it just keeps decreasing all the way down
what you might be confusing it with is a slanted asymptote
yeah
how do I find range though, I am getting confused
we know 1 is a critical point
and g(1) = 2
Right
and we know it's the maximum
we also know the function has no minimums
as such 2 is the absolute biggest value this function will ever have
[or lower bounds]
yeah we also concluded it has no lower bounds
well we didn't do the limit to 0, but it's -inf
due to horizontal asymptote? or what??
So it goes from -inf, to 2, to -inf again
yeah due to that limit
you checked how it behaves at infinity and found out it goes to -inf
if you check how it behaves at 0 you'll find -inf again
,,
Sorry to ramble, but I wanted to say something:
If you study this limit, you can find a possible m for the oblique asymptote y=mx+n
m=\lim_{n \to +\infty} \frac{f(x)}{x}\
If m gives you a value other than zero, find n:\
n=\lim_{n \to +\infty} f(x)-mx
Yeah that's correct
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It doesn't help us with the range finding though, but in general you'd do that too for a deeper analysis
but wait a moment if this function has horizontal asymptotes then there is no oblique asymptote, right?
no it doesn't have a horizontal one
In particular, because you have no horizontal asymptote, and also the y axis forms a vertical asymptote
(a minor point of pedantry, but having no minimums doesn't necessarily imply that you have no lower bounds, thought that may be worth pointing out, just in case)
if the result of the limit is inf or -inf then there is no horizontal asymptote
how do I find the oblique asymptotes
Well if we have no minimums or horizontal asymptotes then it does imply that, no?
unsure
It does, but thought that pointing out that you want both of those factors in a more general example 

[e.g. arctan(x) has no max/mins but a bounded range]
At the end of the day the process of finding the range is basically to check if it's differentiable and continous everywhere, check extreme points, check limits at bounds of domain, check suspicious points, make conclusions based on all of that
What we have found is :
- function is differentiable and continuous everywhere in it's domain
- function has a maximum at x=1 with value=2, and no other extreme points
- functions limit at 0+ is -inf
- function limit at inf is -inf
- function has no suspicious points
Based on that we can conclude that the range of values of the function goes from -inf, to 2, to -inf again
in a continuous manner
and as such it's range is (-inf, 2]
yeah making checklists for analyses like these is the best way really
how do I know If I analyzed every aspect for the range though
If you went down the list
okay I also wanted to ask lowkey what is the second derivative sign criterion we used though?
is that whats rolles theorem says?
Oh no, Rolles theorem is about needing a minimum to go up again
more or less
kinda
sorta
We used the second derivative to find out if the extreme point is a min or max
[Rolles states that if you're cts on a bounded interval and differentiable inside, and the function values at the endpoints are the same, then you have a point inside the interval where the derivative is zero]
lowkey we are assuming continuity and differentiability here?
Which basically implies that if you're at our extreme point of (1,2) and you want to go to another point that's at height 2, so (x, 2) you'd need to have a minimum or maximum inbetween somewhere
Well the function is a linear combination of elementary functions which we know to be differentiable and continuous so it must also be that (I think)
[the idea of the second derivative test is that a min is where you go from decreasing to stationary to increasing, implying if you have a second derivative, it's positive there, and a max is increasing to stationary to decreasing, so second derivative (if it exists) is negative]
how can I check my answer?
This is for the Rolle's bit, see how I can't draw a line to get back to 2 without having an extreme
So if there's no extremes, we're not going back to 2 again
yeah visually its way more helpful
makes sense
,w image of 3 + \ln(x) -x
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whyd they solve for cosb?
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I understand everything but the very last part
where they talk about findinf the prob that the protein is identified b exactly one method
they started with
P(A u B) - P(A n B) (ok I understand this)
But then the next part they go to P(A) + P(B) - 2P(A n B)
why?
oh shit nvm I understand im acc slow
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ok im acc confused about the top part here
shouldnt P(A1 u A2 u A3) = P(A1) + P(A2) + P(A3) - P(A1 n A2) - P(A1 n A3) - P(A2 n A3)
why did they add the very last part "P(A1 n A2 n A3)"
I remember the formula being like P(A u B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B)
the pattern is you keep going through all possible combinations alternating + and -
here's why you need to add the middle at the end
I dont rlly understand
let me draw on my end and see if I can get it because thats kinda confusing
I imagine it as cutout paper circles and you're adding and removing them to get it flat to 1 layer
ohhhhhhhhhh
makes sense
wait actually
yk where u said 0
thats the part (A1 n A2 n A3) right isnt that already being accounted for in A1 + A2 + A3
shouldnt we actually be subtracting A1 n A2 n A3 at the end
instead of adding
yea if you add A1+A2+A3 it's all 1's and you're good
the singles added 3 to the middle and teh doubles took 3 away
ok
ok so lets first cover the
P(A1) + P(A2) + P(A3) part then it will look like this
,rotate
yup
now if we do
P(A1) + P(A2) + P(A3) - P(A1 n A2) - P(A1 n A3) - P(A2 n A3)
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right?
meaning that very middle part is being repeated three times no?
so why would they go on adding it again
shouldnt it have been - 2(P(A1 n A2 n A3)) ?
oh im sped A1 n A2 will also delete the middle part
and same with A1 n A3
and A3 n A2
so middle part would be 0
thats why they added
smh my bad 
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just wanted to be sure, we diff wrt t when using LH right
t is the variable as it is the one going towards something, so t is changing
don't think so, nothing immediately comes to mind
ok, so that gives
$10t^9f\left(x\right)+f'\left(x\right)t^{10}\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)-10x^9\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)f\left(t\right)+x^{10}f'\left(t\right)=9t^8-9x^8\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)$
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right?
now I sub x=t
$10x^9f\left(x\right)+f'\left(x\right)t^{10}\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)-10x^9\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)f\left(x\right)+t^{10}f'\left(t\right)=9t^8-9t^8\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)$
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is this right so far?
you don't need to do dx/dt, x is a constant so dx/dt is just 0
because x is a fixed value being approached by the variable t
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which is a simple Linear ODE
yep
$f'\left(x\right)+\frac{10}{x}f\left(x\right)=\frac{9}{x^2}$
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it's e^(integral 10/x)
that's x^10
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I'm not getting any of the options
what am I doing wrong
oh
got it
stupid me
thanks
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I can't seem to get this right. I don't understand where my professor got the 1/18 or 1/27 from. I get factoring out the 1/2 but no matter what I do I keep getting 81.66. I have everything the same as he does up until the 1/18. I can't take a picture of my own work because it's on paper and my phone is completely shot- new one coming in this week.
well they perform a u-substitution to find the integral [ \frac 12 \int_1^5 \sqrt{9y-5}\odif y ]
cloud
not need one
don't*
I think they just factor out 1/4 to get that part
??
Yes I got that for the integral as well
because of the power rule or whatever because with integrals you add so it's 1/2 + 2/2 = 3/2 and then divide or multiply by the reciprocal
We want $(9y-5)^{\frac 23}$, so we are off by a factor if 9
normalAtmosphericPa=101,325
So simply adjust your initial guess $\frac d{dx}1/9[\frac 23 (9y-5)^{\frac 32}]=(9y-5)^{\frac 12}$
well when you look his does show 2/3 (9y-5)^3/2
the 1/9 was factored off and combined with 1/2 to get 1/18
but you also have 1/9 from chain rule
now combine that with the 1/2 outside of the integral sign, you get 1/18
Wait how does the chain rule work for integrals
I'm doing it directly
I'm basically asking, "What diffs to give this integrand?"
You understand that integration and differentation are opposite proceses don't yoi
yes
So computing the integral is equivalent to looking for some anti-derivative of $(9y-5)^{1/2}$
normalAtmosphericPa=101,325
So, a natural chocie would be to first try simply applying the power rule
i.e., "let's look at $2/3(9y-5)^{1/2+2/2}$"
normalAtmosphericPa=101,325
Ohhhh
Does this "diff to give" $(9y-5)^{1/2}$?
I just did it with the u-substitution
normalAtmosphericPa=101,325
Well, try computing this derivative
do you get it?
no, you will be off by a factor of 9
I totally forgot I was allowed to do that. yes
This tells you, "Ah, I need to adjust my initial guess such that when I diff it, I get 1/9'th what I got before"
so put a factor 1/9 in front of your initial guess
Then as a sanity check, does $1/9(9y-5)^{3/2}$ now "diff to give $(9y-5)^{1/2}$?
normalAtmosphericPa=101,325
Indeed it does, so we are done—we've found an antideriative
Yes that's what I mean. No guessing needed, I did the u-sub method and I go twhat he did , and ues using u sub factors out 1/9 if done right. thank you
but don't forget this factor of 1/2 in front of the integral
so you have 1/18 as a factor overall
Yes, and then taking the integral 2/3 can get factored out and that's where 1/27 comes from right?
dunno, probs comes from applying the limits now
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A group of rocket enthusiasts gather at 4km distance from the liftoff pad of the
Space X rocket to observe the midnight launch. The enthusiasts notice a long
vertical pole with a height of 20m at their location and decide to measure the rocket
speed after liftoff, using the shadow of the pole on the ground cast from the light of
the rocket. They measure that the top of the pole’s shadow is moving at 0.1m/
s when the shadow length is 10. 7 m. Sketch this situation, and compute the both
the height of the rocket and the velocity of the rocket at that moment.
can I get help for this pelase 🙂 a bit confused about the sketcgh
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i used logarithmic differentiation but im getting this loooong term
should that be the case
and also if it is
i cant figure out how to simplify it
is there any relation btw a and b that is given?
nope
what did u get at ur expansion?
yeah
cool cool but now what 😭
what u can do is simplify cosaxcosbx as 1/2(cos((a+b)x)+cos((a-b)x)
similarly do for sinaxsinbx
thats the next step that i did but crossed it out
just trust me bro
yeah
just put the 1/2 on the dr
ah okay
it will look more elegant
this is it
oh
the expansion will just take u back to square 1
yeah
i mean my teacher does say that all of these should have like good looking solutions
thats why i was confused
anyway tho
thank you
welcome i hope i helped u:)
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Hi again 🤧 i don't know how to continue. The question is SIMPLIFY THE EQUATION
$a^2+b^2\ne(a+b)^2$
SWR
Yes i know that
It's just cuz you wrote it here
Yeah yeah i get it
But how do i continue
I would consider what $(\sin^2 x+\cos^2 x)^2$ and how it relates to $\sin^4 x+\cos^4 x$. Same with $(\sin^2 x+\cos^2 x)^3$
SWR
Wait wait
I can like
That's same?
,rccw
No. Same problem
Then what do i do
Try expanding $(\sin^2 x+\cos^2 x)^2$
SWR
Alright please wait
Then what is equal
$(\sin^2 x+\cos^2 x)^2=\sin^4 x+2\sin^2 x \cos^2 x+\cos^4 x$
SWR
I already wrote that
Where i am making mistakes
You made a mistake saying this was equal
Okay how do i correct it
Also this whole thing was incorrect
Use this. Solve for $\sin^4 x+\cos^4 x$
SWR
,rccw
hey that looks pretty good
Okay, should i get rid of ()?
Okay please wait
I think this is correct
,rccw
looks good
thanks God
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tom has 17 coins all of which are either nickels or dimes. if he has $1.10 in all, how many does he have of each?
ok, you know how to solve equation, right?
yes
First, you can set up the system of equations. You know that the total number of coins is 17 and you know that the total values of your coins is $1.10
Right?
yes
yeh
so, let's that be our unknown then
let $x$ be the number of nickels and $y$ be the number of dimes
print("NAME")
yeah
print("NAME")
wait
is this simulatenous equations
?
is that what it's called
im so confused
I think so... I usually call this a system of linear equation
o ok
do you know how to solve this?
print("NAME")
yeah
that means $x = 17 - y$, right?
print("NAME")
yh
the second equation we have is quite ugly so let's multiply everything to make it a full number and get
$5x + 10y = 110$
print("NAME")
do you agree?
yh
and since I know that $x = 17-y$, I can substitute that in to get $5(17-y) + 10y = 110$
print("NAME")
and solve for $y$
print("NAME")
this is one of the way you can use to solve the simultaneous equation: substitution method
There is. In fact, in college there is a class dedicate for this kind of stuff lol
o
But at your level, I think this is one of the straightforward way to solve this problem
kk
After you solve for $y$, you can substitute that back to any of the equation you have to solve for $x$
print("NAME")
and that is your solution
well, you can check your answer by substitute your value into the equation
I have the solution. It is just that it is inappropriate to give out the solution.
I think you should get the whole number
ok, I will simplify things for you a bit so you can see what went wrong: $5(17-y)+10y = 110 \implies y+17=22$
print("NAME")
no...
$-5y + 10y = 10y - 5y = 5y$
print("NAME")
don't forget about the sign
what about the 85?
85 is there. I just want to highlight what you did wrong there
it will be $85+5y = 110$
print("NAME")
yes
then since you know that there is 5 dimes out of 17 coins...
no worries. this kind of problem is confusing if you don't know how to deal with it
you did great trying to understand it
tyty
janice has 2.30 made of dimes, pennies, and quarters. she has just as many dimes as pennies and has 17 coins in all. how many quarters does she have?
would i find the dimes and pennies
oro quarters in this one
using substitatuino
so it would 2x+q=17
right
yes
well, x is the number of the dimes here, do you agree?
yes
yeah
but x is also number of pennies
too
if you know x, you also know 2x, no?
oh ok

