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No, i just meant the power rule still applies when finding the derivative of -2x
the derivative of -2x is -2
because the derivative of x is x^0, making it -2*1
i see i understand
but how would that work for 1? in x^3-2x+1=0
would it just equal 1 since 1^1-1 = 1?
No because 1 is a constant
there's no variable to relate to
the rate of change for a constant, is... 0
because there is no rate of change
ok so f(x) prime would be. 3x^2 - 2 right?
Yes
nice thank you very much for the help
No problem 🙂 good luck!
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I need help solving this
find f(x+a) first
a is -3 i suppose
f(x+a) is not (x+a)^2
o
how would i find that?
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but why would i do that?
ahhh i see
Wel you fully expanded it out
I was hoping for something like x^2 + 2(a+2)x + (a+2)^2
Because then that'll just imply that:
2(a+2) = -6
(a+2)^2 = 9
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I got two values for a
-5 and 5
But apparently there’s only supposed to be one
For part b
It says a is a positive real number
So only 5
Yeah what's the matter with part b
,w differentiate x^2y^3 + e^(2y) = 5
Yeah alright
Yeah then I set it equal to 0
What why
Is that the only way to verify
You could plot it in desmos and have a look for yourself
But this is generally enough to rule out y being 0
So then how can I use the information that x=0 that there’s only one s.p
There's only one value of x for which the derivative is 0
Which means there's only one stationary point
If there were two real values, then there would be 2, and so on
Thank you, I will take note of that
Stationary points occur when the slope of the tangent at a point on the graph is 0
And there's only one point here right so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
You're meant to solve the differential equation
I umm I flipped dp/dt and flipped the rhs too then integrated with dt 💀, is this mathematically wrong? I’m guessing it is
No it's fine
dP
Wait
Oops
Yeah that's fine
Part a told you about partial fractions
You're meant to use that result here
Is it correct so far?
,w integrate 100/(p(5-p))
It's correct just remove the + C and plug in the limits
You have an initial condition
This is different from what I wrote
It's the same you just multiplied the 100 in
Yeah, I got 5/5
Your partial fractions is right
I think you messed up the integration
$\int \frac{1}{5P} \dd P = \frac 15 \ln P$
NEONPerseus
The other one is alright
No wait you're missing a minus sign
:P
In the partial fractions
I think I’ve been integrating wrong this entire time
I thought, for example, if I had to integrate 1/2x it would be 2ln2x +c
no wonder, anytime I integrate one over a linear equation it’s always wrong
I'll take your leave now, hopefully someone else will come now
Thank you
Dont worry about itz you'll get it
That was quick Riemann
My exam’s in three days lol

But you got it now, in less than a minute
another way to see this is to use log rules
$\log(2x) = \log(2) + \log(x)$ now differentiate both sides
riemann
or also just factor out the 1/2 from the integrand
How would I integrate the second fraction? Like what are the steps
1/5(5-P)
I take out a common factor of 1/5 so 1/5 x 1/5-P
Then I get -1/5ln(5-P)
But say i had to integrate 1/5-2P
What would the integral be
$\frac{1}{5-2p} =\frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1}{5/2-p}$
riemann
then you've factored out the 1/2 and can do the same thing
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I’m going to lose my mind, what have I done wrong? Is my approach incorrect?
My value for the constant is different, is there something wrong with my approach because it’s not the same as the marking scheme
Ignore dx
I meant dP
This is what I did before hand
their C is on the t integral, yours is on the P integral
they have t + c = f(p). you have t = f(p) + c, so of course it's gonna have opposite signs
what you really care about is P(t)
Write that for both your approach and theirs and compare
Yeah, the thing is I don’t really understand how to get P(t) the mark scheme just shows the answer after that
it's a lot of algebra manipulation
start at equation 8.4.2
https://math.libretexts.org/Courses/Monroe_Community_College/MTH_211_Calculus_II/Chapter_8%3A_Introduction_to_Differential_Equations/8.4%3A_The_Logistic_Equation
Thank you, I got the right answer 😭🙏
That example question is basically the same as the exam question
How did you find it
Google?
i guess i knew that this is called the "logistic equation"
Ah, ok
I got a) i) -6 and a) ii) -4 but my value of the first term was very wrong. I used Un=a + (n-1)d. Was I meant to use a different formula?
How is a first term being -5 wrong?
The answer is 115
-5 isn’t the first term its the 21st
oh, that makes sense, sorry.
It’s ok but I don’t know how to get 115
Un = a + (n-1)d, so -5 = a + (20)(-6), solve for a.
You're welcome
Also
Do you know how to do d) ii)
I don’t understand what it’s asking for
Use the geometric series formula: Hint: 1 + r + r^2 + r^3 + ... = (1 + r^n)/(1-r), what happens as n goes to infinity?
Ummmm no clue
if r < 1 then r^n goes to zero
Value decreases?
1/10 -> 1/100 -> 1/1000 -> and so on
so eventually you wind up with 1/(1-r)
which is the limit as n goes to infinite for a geometric series.
well, if 1/(1 - r) = 64/3
You got two different possible ratios. If one of them is less than 1 and satisfies that equation, then the proposition is true, otherwise it is false.
from (c) "Find the two possible values of y and the corresponding common ratios"
"r" is the "common ratio", and you'll have two values of y and two values of r.
"one of the values of y" blah blah "has a sum to infinity" means that for that value of "y" the value of "r" is less than 1.
if we actually perform this infinite sum (using the geometric series formula) does this sum equal 64/3
n.b. that the geometric series formula I posted is a simplified one assumes that the series begins at 1. If it begins at a different value, (let's call it a), then the series becomes a + ar + ar^2 + ... = a (1 + r + r^2 + ...) = a/(1-r)
Does this help @fast crown ?
Kind of…
This is what the mark scheme says, i’m so confused
Like I understand what you said but I don’t know how to apply it to part d ii)
So they calculated a and found that it was inconsistent with y.
(but it would have been consistent if there were a different value of y)
Oh but it doesn’t say y-1 is the first term…
Or does it maybe I’m missing something
So if a = 32, then ar = -16, ar^2 = 8, and ar^3 = -4
but y-1 is 4. We can clearly see that 4 will not appear in this sequence
(instead a would need to be -32, or 16, or -8, or 64, or something)
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why does the demand shift down here?
The (fallacious) idea here is that if you have more money you would consume fewer foods that are store brand (to save money) and instead consume more foods that are brand name.
Economics examples are sometimes irrational, just like economics itself.
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The demand curve of what? The same store foods graph?
oh dang, they were talking about Y-12 near ORNL
So the idea is that if Y-12 hires 200 more workers, people in Y-12 make generally good wages and generally move into the Oak Ridge area to take the job, so it results in an influx of people to the area with disposable income, and this results in an increase in the demand of fast food
so therefore the demand curve of burger king woppers will increase, I guess?
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How is it done? wouldn't the omega have power of 4 and 8?
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Hi so I'm at 10° grade The article(i believe it's said that way?) I'm giving is about the modular equation the left equation is right but the right one isn't idk why, the result is supposed to be 3 can plz someone help me? Thx
Here's the fuction (the one in blue ink)
And the exercise says : calculate f(x)=2
Maybe i should use the | 1 - X | let me try
Hmmm no
The result gave x=-1 not what i wanted
Btw "se" means "if"
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Its not -1
It's 1
You forgot the absolute value --> | |
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But then what am i doing wrong, the results are supposed to be {-5/2 ; 3} i already got the -5/2 how can i get to the 3?
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What would tan 45 be finding? It seems I should use tan 13 to find the length of line ** PR**
You could use cosine of B to find pr tho
Angle β would be 90-45 deg right?
Actually nvm, I was using the wrong trig ratio
You could also use Sine of 45 to find PR
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For b, am I meant to simply substitute for x and y in the x,y vector or is there a different way to do this because when I tried substituting I wasn't getting the right answer
did you remember to include the 2/5?
Yes I included it
hm
well, maybe sub x → (18x/5 - 4y/5) and y → (-4x/5 + 12y/5) in the circle's equation and see what happens?
Ohhh okay ima try that
if that doesn't work i got nothing
i can tell you how to do the area thing, but that's easy enough that you probably don't need me
Yea I get the area thing
It looks kind of similar when I substituted what you said I'm going to recheck
I'm not sure what I did wrong but it's like reversed
I did it
I made the (x,y) vector the subject then substituted into the circle equation
Thanks for your help
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what
I think I figured it out finally
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Hey, i need to find a polynome with real coefficients where this is true:
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have you considered differentiating both sides? @woven breach
from there you get a simple ode
excellent
put all terms on the same side, divide e^x (because it cannot be 0)
you get
[p''-p'-p=0]
Scythe
that works too
it equals 0 either way
but convention dictates you leave the highest order term positive
and alone, ideally
ahh you just changed the signs i see
do you know how to solve this ode?
im thinking but not really
right right uh
now that I think about it this is impractical
since this is a simple linear homogenous ode, the answer is in the form p1=e^r1x and p2=e^r2x, (two solutions bc order 2 ode)
but those are exponential solutions
r1 and r2 are (1±sqrt(5))/2 if you're curious, you use the coefficients of the ode p''-p'-p=0 to get r^2-r-1=0 to find the roots by plugging in p=e^rx and differentiating
plus since this is out of your expertise it wouldn't appear to be the right way to solve this
this is a standard calc problem yes?
this is analysis 2 and we havent really gone through de's
i think analysis is calculus in the us?
perhaps
the lectures were about riemann integrals
but i study physics and but my mathematics courses i take are the same courses the mathematicians take so maybe they went through de's in a seperate course
i find that unlikely though
gonna be honest not sure how you can find a polynomial other than p(x)=0 where this is true
tabular integration perhaps?
the actual task i had was different, that was just were i got stuck
maybe my approach was wrong, i can send the actual exercise
write
[p(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}a_nx^n]
Scythe
find a general integral for p''(x)e^x, then solve for =p(x) for the coefficients?
that's the only way I can think of for this part, though idr riemann integral
Let p(x) be a polynomial with real coefficients. Prove that there exists another polynomial q(x) with real coefficients where this is true
hmm
so basically you're proving there are two valid polynomials where this works? given p(x) is one find at least one other?
why did you say c=0?
uhm
wait ill send how i got to that equation i sent before
if this was true, i could say -p'(x) = q(x)
And the equation at the top would be satisfied
Yeah
differentiate, you get p'e^x+pe^x=qe^x, p'+p=q
polynomials are continuously differentiable
go back to this,
[p(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}a_nx^n]
Scythe
therefore
[p'(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}a_{n+1}(n)x^n]
Scythe
therefore
[q(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}((n)a_{n+1}+a_n)x^n]
Scythe
Wait so what do i differentiate
the whole equation, the original one
this?
yup
how do you get this though
The left side just removes the integral
p(x)e^x=q'e^x+qe^x
ah yeah
whooops
that seems right
divide out e^x, you get p=q'+q
that's actual math though
still have to set up the series I think, imo
but I like series, sometimes
d'you know how to do that or?
Scythe
and
[q=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}b_nx^n]
[q'=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}(n)b_{n+1}x^n]
Scythe
wait cant i just guess a polynomial where this might work
for instance let a_n = 0 for n>5 and 2n otherwise, you get the polynomial p=0+2x+4x^2+6x^3+8x^4+10x^5, as an example. in reality there can be any order
not so sure, since p can be any real polynomial
yup that satisfies the equation
if i integrate p(x)e^xdx i should get q(x)e^x
but you are proving for any p(x) polynomial with real coefficients
otherwise we would say p=q=0 and be done with it
I mean they cant be equal so that wouldnt work
true enough ig
but now that you say it
im not sure if its for any p or if i just need to find one
Let p(x) be a polynomial with real coefficients. Prove that there exists another polynomial q(x) with real coefficients where this is true
generally real, not there exists
that's for all real polynomials p(x)
also it works btw
if you wanted to check without suffering through integrating
so look
you understand the above series formulas for a polynomial, right?
yes
excellent
so we just plug these into p=q'+q
we get
[\sum_{n=0}^{∞}a_nx^n=\sum_{n=0}^{∞}b_nx^n+\sum_{n=0}^{∞}(n)b_{n+1}x^n]
Scythe
Scythe
with me so far?
yeah
now, at every power of x
the coefficients have to equal 0 independently
there is no a for which ax^4 + some bx^3=0 for all x
coefficients have to cancel out on the same power level
so
[a_n=b_n+nb_{n+1}, n≥0]
Scythe
we are given a_n, the polynomial p, remember
yes
so basically we need to prove that for a real sequence of a_n, n≥0, that there is some sequence of b_n for which this is true
ask away
shouldnt it be x^(n-1) for q'
nope
notice how it's b_n+1
instead of doing starting from n=1 (since constant is gone) of b_n*x^(n-1)
I did starting from n=0 of b_n+1 of x^n
which is the same series
ohhhh
we need to match the x^n in each one or it won't merge right
yeah makes sense
Scythe
I confess I'm not quite sure where to go from here, since we need to solve b_n in terms of a_n
hmmm so if the highest power of p is A at power x^N, then a_N=A, b_N=A too, b_(N-1)=A_(N-1)-NA?
ugh is this a proof of induction to just prove it exists?
let n > 0, assume real b_n implies real b_n+1
therefore
b_n+1=(b_n-a_n)/n
therefore, b_n+1 is real
therefore, for real a_n, then real b_n exists for all n≥0```
yup
and since a_n is real, and previous b_n is real, then b_n+1 is real
marvelous
yup! I think so
damn thanks a lot for helping me
I just hope I got it right
I probably grossly overcomplicated things
but at least it works :'D
do you understand how the proof by induction works?
and the idea that we're just proving it exists, rather than a specific q(x)?
hmm that could be helpful
it will cause me pain to read the simple answer I bet it will be though
ah, to hurt or not to hurt
i will be honest its 4:30 am in germany and my brain is fried
so we
differentiated the equation
put in series for the polynomials
simplified
mhm
and saw that our polynomial has to satisfy this
This we proved by induction
just that it exists
And were finished
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ok sry i didn't know
np
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f(x) = 1/x , x belongs to (0,1) is not uniform continuous. But f(x) =1/x , x belongs to (a,1), a>0 is Uniform continuous. What is difference between these functions
1/x has a vertical asymptote at 0. So it increases very rapidly over very small intervals.
for x > 1, it changes very slowly over even very large intervals.
you can bound the latter
thnx..now i got it
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I'm supposed to make this in Python. I specifically don't understand how I know something is 'accurate to 10 decimal places when compared against exponentiation'
But even if it isn't right, how do I go about solving this?
well the terms beyond some point are going to be divided by huge factorials so they'll be less than 10^-10
...isn't $\texttt{c ** (1/r)}$ just $\sqrt[r]{c}$ \
kind of a weird thing to use when that's what you're trying to approximate
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Someone teach how the ans of (c) Is -3/2y~ ?
Why don't we try solving for x and y first?
What are x and y, in terms of their horizontal and vertical components?
huh? U mean x = 6 units, y = 2√2 units ?
Well those are the distances
We want the individual components
So a horizontal component, then a vertical component for both x and y
dont understand sry
Would it make sense if I told you that y = (-2,-2)
what is that stand for ?
If not then I think you need to read up on what a vector is
How about this:
To get from U to V, you go how many units left and how many units down?
ohh i get it is smtg like translation isnt it ?
Yes
okay... then whats next ?
So now does it make sense to you to say y = (-2,-2)
yes
Great, now find x
for A to B is ( 3,3)
so i need to do is the similar triangle compare as AB and UV ?
right ?
That would also work yeah
But let's do this
If we know that y=(-2,-2)
Then will some multiple of y be (3,3)?
I want you to find a number c such that c × (-2,-2) = (3,3)
(3,3) divide by (-2,-2) ?
Well not quite
When we multiply vectors by numbers we have to multiply their components
So we get:
(-2c,-2c) = (3,3)
Which gives us the system
-2c = 3
-2c = 3
Notice how we have the same equation twice
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could u guys help me
let x be a real number in the interval[0, pi/2]
such that sinx cos x =1/2
shows that sin x= cos x
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okay
Yup
cos x= 1
pi/4
pi/4
waiiit
2sin x cos x=sin pi/4
nah x=pi/4
yep
2 sinx = 2 cos x
the question is shows that sinx = cos x
yep
Multiply with 2 on both sides
2sin x cos x= 1
sin 2x?
Umm sin2x=what
1
Sin2x formula I mean
2sin x cos x = sin 2x
Yeahhh
and 2 sin x cos x=1
Sin2x=1
so sin 2x =1
2x=?
pi /2
X=?
pi /4
cos pi/4= sin pi/4
wait
Yup
values of what?
Values of cos pi/4and sin pi/4
pi /4 +2kpi ; -pi/4 + 2kpi ?
aaah its square root 2/2
Ok what is cos 45°?
square root 22
Check the calculator or Google
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it's just algebra there's like no exotic insight
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hello i have a question about this question, would my drawing be right? (sorry for the bad drawing)
like are the values placed in the right place?
yes
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I'm having a hard time understanding the proof for the domination number of helm graph. It's given that Y(Hn)=n, and proved it like this
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how to draw vector diagram for this
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use some vector multiplication
so you've got a vector pointing east with a magnitude of 400Km/h
and you've got a vector pointing north-east at 50km/h
calculate the resultant vector
I just need a vector diagram @proper shard
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draw one in ms paint
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Can anyone help me with this
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Pythagorean theorem
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Well you know the base of the right triangle
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You mean the blank bit at the bottom? lol
Oh, you posted question 6 though
What was the original problem for number 5?
Ahh okay
you factored out 4
but you still used a=4
I think you meant a=1
In the polynomial 4x^2 + 300x - 9000, yes
not in x^2 + 75x - 2250
You can treat that as a new quadratic basically, because if x^2 + 75x - 2250 is equal to 0, then of course 4 times that polynomial is also equal to 0
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Looks like the answer key has rounded a bit
It's not 23 exactly
but should be pretty close
Happens to everyone lol
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Hey! I need to convolute these functions using the graphic method. I solved a nearly identical exercise early but x1(t) was possible. I'm not sure how to approach this bc they don't overlap when I add them. I'd appreciate any help, thanks!
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How did they do this part?
u mean how does the hint work?
separate it, $\frac{5n}{n}-\frac{1}{n}$
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take points A, and A' which are symmetrical by line l, given any point B on l does A'B=AB?
by definition of the mediatrix yes
so considering M the point of symmetry triangles A'MB and AMB are the same?
they arent ho
so silly
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Question 12, 13
If you are doing please tell I will wait
And send me the answer in written form
"do these several exercises for me"
no
show what you've tried, where you're stuck, what you don't understand, etc.
I had stuck in all these questions
I hadn't send you the whole exercise
These were the questions which i was stucked
This is ntse based and extra questions
There are 40 more questions in this exercise
SO YEAH
These were the questions I was struggling
So kindly tell
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do you know how exponents work
for question 12 first, can you tell me what 5^x is?
what is 5^x equal to
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What?
I guess it's 3
Because then it would be 125
But i need formulae
Forgot those questions
I have just 2 new questions
Please help me with these 2 questions only
for 9) how can you write p(x) in terms of c and d?
Good Greif
But it's an open door question
It cannot be wrong
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i will help you, can you answer this?
no.c and d are zeros from p(x), so p(x) = (x-c)(x-d)
expand this and compare with the given formula
(x-c)(x-d)=x^2+(c+d)x+cd
i a not doiing the job for you, i will help you to find the answer yourself. so you have to do something your own. compare the last formula with the given formula
can you say something about a?
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How do you approach this problem?
you can split up an integral
so that you get one from 0 to 4 and one from 4 to 6
then you can sub in the f(x) into these integrals
someone how the fuck do i do these
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you tryna build a rocket ship or som?
what?
there isnt a channel for me
do i need to create one
somehow
or
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one of these
when you split up the intergral, what does that mean? Like the upper and lower bounds are going to be different from what I started with? With your example, it would be
think of it like you are calculating an area
we are pretty much splitting the area in two
I see
visually, I see what you mean
I'm still a bit unsure how to deal with the problem though
$\int\limits_a^c=\int\limits_a^b+\int\limits_b^c$
~Martin
now let's say we are going from 0 to 4
mhmm
right
would that be [4] - [4] ?
Or would I not need to do that part of the definiate integral
~Martin
this is not 4-4
yes 👍
F(b)-F(a)
Those are the two sets that I've been following
where F is the antiderivative of f
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@earnest breach why not
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how do I do c?
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Is this solution correct?
to..?
What?
So what is correct answer?
next you have to factor out the x on the right side
How to factor the x?
so on the right side you have 1*x + sqrt(2)*x
can you rewrite that as (something+something)*x ?
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So is something like this
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Try to apply the binomial theorem
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Im having some trouble with part d of this question
here is my working out
the solutions say the angle should be 109.5 degrees
ok
to get the angle u want the angle between XD and XF
XD is (-1/2 a, 1/2 a, 1/2 a)
XF is (1/2 a, -1/2 a, 1/2 a)
then you use the dot product
seems like what you did is XD and FX not XD and XF
np
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i am a bit curious
what would the proof for showing the triangles are congruent be?
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@stiff scarab i don't really think u should form the two traingles to make them congreunt since one of them isn't right angled
oh so the angle CED = 90 degrres?
yes