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the only way this has a discontinuity is if the bottom is 0. is there any real value of x that makes the bottom 0?
no
then there are no discontinuities for this fun,ction
okay thanks
rational functions are very well behaved
division of polynomials
if denom not 0 continuous
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Soo
Nice
It’s supplementary
Cause this sun adds up to 180°, right ?
yes
yes congruent
Meaning x=108, 3y=x=108, 3z+18=108
because x and 3y are correspodning
Exactly
Mhm
x=3y
ohhh
So y=x/3 right ?
lol
In Olympiads I just skip them
Yeah xD
xd
I’m in last grade so it wasn’t that difficult lol
Anyway
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It’s 2:40am 💀
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Find all values of m for which the equation has two real solutions.
–(m+1)=–2r^2–8r
Write your answer starting with m, followed by an equals sign or inequality symbol (for example, m<5). Reduce all fractions.
I want to figure out how I am supposed to do this so after this example I could do it on my own
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How do you convert from a normal distribution to a density curve?
If it is even possible
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1^x=3
How do I solve for x
x=3
Is there some imaginary ln function?
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hi
so
i need help with quadratic functions and quadratic graph
and overall quadratic stuff
anyone down?
Like?
heres the question
"The diagram below shows the graph of y = px^2 + qx + r"
"Determine the value of p, q and r"
how do i do this
the values on the x axis are -3 and 2
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Ok
Do you know what zeros are?
Put the zeros back into factor form
yeah lol
so use the zero property?
x = 0 and x = 0 for both?
why do we have to make X zero though
you should try x intercept form?
but theres 2 x intercepts already
-3 and 2
yes
but idk why were supposed to make them zero
you = them to 0 because idk
you just do
you always do
im not much help but i know how to do it
if it doesnt give you the y int then im not sure
x = 0
it didnt
so um yeah
how do i find p, q and r now?
the graph here shows y = px^2 + qx + r
wait what
the x is = to 0?
it says that?
who said that
i meant always = the equation to 0
the full equation would be 0 or y=(x+3)(x-2)
oops
(0 or y)=a(x+3)(x-2)
if on the paper it says x is = to 0 then plug it in
no
who said that
but someone said (x+3) (x-2)
i wanna know why we should do that
because those equal to zero
-3+3 =0
2-2 = 0
do you know box method?
nope
its foiling
well i do know the foil method
foiling out of that should equal the quadratic
but you cant unless you find a
which is the slope multiplier at the beginning
so (x+3) (x-2) = 0
then foil?
if it doesnt give you x then im not sure if it is possible
okay look at your graph
so if like
ill explain why you do that
ok pls do
so you knwo that they are on the x intercept right?
that would make the cordinates -3,0 and 2,0
your name is pronounced mystical right?
yes
loll
it still is in some servers
nicee
yes
well the x-intercept equation is an equation made if you have both x intercepts
it is made to be the opposite of the symbol infront of the number
so if its -3
then its 3
because if you look at the equation
you are trying to set it up like this]\
(-3+?)=0
-3 is the x int and 0 is the y int
which makes the dot -3,0
the intercept equation comes from the ?
so its positive 3 in this case
because you are looking at what would turn -3 into 0
-3+3=0
so you would write the equation (x+3)(X-2) because if you plug in -3 it makes 0 and if you plug in 2 it makes 0
because 0 times anything ='s 0
so basically
just fo find the number thatd turn it into 0?
so for -3
adding 3 would turn it into 0
yes
exactly
so adding -2 to 2 would make it 0
thats just the logic behind it
another easy way to think of it is just flip the symbols
ok this was the root of the problem
\so the intercepts are (-3,0) and (2,0)
yes
so 0 was the y int because when it intersects the x axis
its a 0 because it doesnt go down more on the graph, if that makes sense
okay
cool
Yes
exactly
now im probably forgetting something
on anywhere on the paper does it say a dot that the line is on?
so (-3,0). we wanna turn the 3 into a 0 to make it into the y intercept?
yeah
what does it say
is it just asking to automatically assume that the a is 1?
because you need at least 3 dots to be able to find the standard form
You can check A using Axis of Symmetry
wouldnt you need to know b for that?
You can know b though without a by doing the foiling
how would you get the axis of symmetry with just 2 dots
you cant foil yet because you don't know a
its a hidden multiplier
right??
i swear
i think im right\
?
well isnt the equation a(x+3)(x-2)
px^2 + qx + r is all she’s asked to find right
you cant foil because of a being there
yes
by a I meant p, where did you get that a from?
You can check the multiplier using vertex after you get the equation
but you cant get the equation if you dont know the multiplier
Alright imma write this out lol 1 sec
yea same
i believe it is just making us assume a is = 1
because i did the problem with a being = to 1 and it looks correct
.cv do you have the scales of the x and y axis?
you're good
yeah but
but they didnt really ask for the standard form
just to find p, q and r
and the intercepts of x were -3 and 2
basically thats the info we got
i do get that were supposed to do (x+3) (x-2)
but what else?
i guess you just need to assume a is = 1
well, p is a 1
but we had to calculate to get that
i already have the working
i just dont get how it works, basically
p is 1??
$test$
yeah lmao
LaTex is down
probably
you just multiply everything together and then add up all the like terms
so you multiply x and x to get x^2
and then you multiply both x's by -2 and 3
so you get -2x and 3x
and add them together
and then multiply -2 and 3 and get -6
and then you put that all into an equation
wait
but isnt that foiling (x+3) into (x-2)?
since x(x-2) +3(x-2) = x^2 -2x + 3x -6
which is what u got
YES
ok
wait no
well, its 0 bc
0 = x^2-2x+3x-6
yes im dumb lmao
so (x+3) foiled into (x-2) = 0
lol
just simplify and you have your answers
A multiplier would be taken out anyway, finding it is largely trivial since it would be simplified
thats what im saying
Yeah, so you don’t need to find a multiplier
Just the zeros would suffice to get a matching equation
I don’t know why you’d need a third point unless you’re dealing with x^3
wouldnt the a be multiplied on both polynomials
No
yes
yes
heyyy\
SO THATS HOW P = 1
Yes
i dont need it lmao
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anyways
why take one channel if you can take 4
happy to help
NP^2
lol
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Hi, I need to find x using thales theorem for this workshop
im not asking for the answer, the problem is that I've never seen a thales problem like this
I always had the idea of a paralel line that makes a smaller triangle and is similar to the original one
but in that problem I can't see such triangles
the teacher also said that there are similar angles in point E
but don't know what that meana
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I already found something: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_bisector_theorem
well how do i close this
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It asks for AB length, I think this problem is wrong because I've found $\sqrt{712}$ with distance formula.
Robin S.
Could you guys check it please?
The ones I draw with green show the ordinates and abscissas.
By the way, C is on the intersection point of the parabolas and on the y-axis.
Alright I just see it lol
you could tell this was your error
I just messed up my multiplication
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I have to solve arccos12/13 + 2arctg5
The problem is that I get 0 but the answer is pi
What am i doing wrong?
tan(2β) = -5/12?
Isn't it?
Why do you think it is?
I use the formula. I've written how i get tan(2β) = -5/12 on the line below
Just using the formula for tan(2beta)
0 isn't the only angle where tan(θ) = 0
Yes, but 0 is the only one where acrtg is defined, right? That being [-п/2, п/2]
And? You took the tangent of your equation. To undo that, you don't use arctan, unless you want to lose potential solutions
It's like if you had x² = 4, you don't just take the square root, you take ± square root
So what am i supposed to do?
tg(theta) =0 when the angle is 0 and п
I don't see how this could help
tan(π) is also 0
Yes
Both arccos(12/13) and arctan(5) is positive so the answer is definitely > 0
So in these types of problems what should i do to catch all the solutions?
Because i didn't think outside 1st quadrant for the 2arctg5 part
arctan(5) is in the first quadrant
But when you take the tan of everything, you need to consider all solutions when you undo it
how old are you
1st year in university
I had 8 hours of math lectures today.... Quite overwhelming
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Is this correct?
Seems right
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hello
Do I have to convert to quadratic form
and do -b/2a
or is there a method to find here
no no
this form that is already in
is called vertex form becuause it's easy to find the vertex
oh wow
the theory is that, the smallest value (x+5)^2 can take is 0
so the minimum value would be when 3(x+5)^2 is 0
so the minimum value of f(x) would be -2
aka the y coordinate of the vertex
try find x coordinate yourself using this
why wouldnt the minimum value be 5/3
if x is -2 then 5 times -2 =-6
-6 +5 = -1
-1^2=1
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huh what are you talking abotu bro
where'd you get x is -2 from and how is 5x -2 = -6
x needs to be -5
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wait so you go od?
no
did you understand the solution
u told me -2 is x
no I didn't
y
yes y is -2
ok lemme try explain again
how do u know so much
ok so this is just a random parabola, your f(x) would look something like this
as you can see the verex, is also the minimum point
it's a minimum when x^2 has a positive coefficient
the vertex can also be the maximum point if theres a rotation
can the bot display graphs?
,ask graph -2x^2
yes if x^2 has a negative coeffficient, but it doesn't here
yup! was just explaining that as its written min/max so it can be either
a square number is always postiive, or 0. So therefore the smallset value it could be is 0
we are looking for the smallest value as we are seeking the minimum, the vertex
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if (x+5)^2 is 0 then 3(x+5)^2 - 2 = -2
@wraith hinge do you follow?
so this in vertex form. f(x) = a(x – h)^2 + k,
simplest way would just be locating h and k in the graph, remember that its "-h"
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I'm struggling at getting started with this, I believe I need to use a vector function, but I know little to nothing about them, and I'm not even sure if that's the method I should use to solve this, please help 
Two carriages, A and B, are connected by a 12 m
long rope passing over a pulley P. (See
the figure.) Point Q is on the floor 4 m directly below
P and between the carriages. Cart A is pulled away from
Q with a speed of 0.5 m/s. How fast
cart B is moving towards Q at the instant when
cart A is 3 m from Q?
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If $f(x)=5x-3$ and you're trying to find an $x$ such that $f(x)=7$, you merely need to solve $5x-3=7$.
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where did you get 2x?
5x - 3 is 2
is that wrong or sum
the way to confirm that is something like
7 = 5x -3
10 = 5x
2 = x
just to show your work
the answer is 2
you're solving for x
bingo
9 = 1
that doesn't make sense
what?
how does 9 = 1?
think about what you're saying
yeah
9 can never equal 1
... is this a bit?
add 3 to both sides and then divide by 4
No, bro, you are confusing, lmao.
4x - 3
is 1x
Jeez, man, calm down.
No, it's not.
3 to both sides
Yep.
oh so 7x - 6
1x
NO MY MAN
You're adding three units, not three times x.
what in the heck are you saying
if its 4x - 3
and we add 3 to 4x
its 7x
You're adding $3$, not $3x$.
add 3 to 3
No, man.
its 6
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bro ☠️
9 = 4x - 3
means
"9 is equal to 4 times some number minus 3"
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oh i get it now
9x = 4x - 3
meaning 9x - 4x is 5
5 - 3 = 2
oh i see i was doing it wrong
$4x-3=9$, add three to both sides, $4x=12$.
3317
there's no x on the 9's side
9 = 4x - 3
does not convert to
9x = 4x - 3
you can't just place an x there randomly
this isn't some sort of magic lol
yes
9 = 4x - 3
12 = 4x (add 3 to both sides)
3 = x (divide both sides by 4)
no the answer is 3
x is your unknown number
you're trying to find out what that is
mk
so 4x is 12
-3
thats 9
i get it now
but they dont show the value of x still then
its hidden
It isn't hidden, my man.
12
now subtract 3
9
$x=2x$ doesn't make ANY sense.
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hm
ig its not 2x
i dont know why i added the x to 2
It isn't two either.
See, let me put it clearer.
Say I've got a mystery number. I tell that my mystery number times four, and minus three is equal to nine.
4 minus 3 is 1
so 1 is equal to 9
Yep.
OH
no
that makes it all more clear
ty
bro what? he just said 9 = 1
You're trolling, aren't you?
no he didn't
I fell for it.
why would i be trolling im tryna find out the answer but i keep getting mixed signals
algebra 2
to be honest I think that you're jumping the gun when we provide answers
take a moment and think about what we're saying and digest it
.
four
minus three
= 1
1 is equal to nine
so, for one thing, $1 \neq 9$. Never ever in a million years in algebra 2
MellowDramaLlama
that's like saying that I can pay for a $9 movie ticket with $1
I mean
or that a 9 pound cat equals a 1 pound cat
the equation makes more sense than irl
but yeah i see your point
so wouldnt that mean 9 has to be 9x
1 = 9x
maybe x is times a negative number
nope
so 9 times a negative number and it brings it down to 1
9x = 1
that seems more logical
no it's not. That would imply x = 1/9
which is wrong in the equation
you want to isolate x by itself
yeah
refer to this
9 times 0.1111 is equal to 1
that might explain the 9x being equaled to 1
because 9 - 4x - 3
4x - 3 is 1
then we transfer the x to the 9
@wraith hinge @dire kraken help plz
so that would make sense where we multiply the x
in retrospect it means x = 0.1111
Yeah, there exists a number $x$ such that $9x=1$, but it is NOT the same x you're trying to find.
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i was doing some other equation then
YES EXACTLY
mb
what about graphing domains though
for example the domain of this shape is all around it right
a domain is a vicinity
You're definitely trolling.
There is no way you're not trolling.
No, man.
A function is a thing that relates two sets.
It maps elements from the first set to the second.
In this case, the domain is a range, a subset of the real numbers.
Notice the two circles at each end.
i wouldn't jump to that conclusion, he may not have payed attention in classes or something
They mean that point is not in the domain of the function and are therefore not in the image.
No such thing as blocks in here.
$x$ most of the time.
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No geometrical shapes involved, man.
No, the domain isn't a single number, unless the domain is a set of only one element.
It's a range, it ranges from the left tail to the right tail.
See, it's $(4,5)$
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Notice the parentheses, they mean that $4$ and $5$ are not in the range.
3317
It shows a range of numbers for which the property $-4<x<5$ holds.
3317
See, the function has no definition for $f(-5)$, because it's outside of its domain.
3317
Its domain is restricted to numbers that are strictly greater than $-4$ and strictly less than $5$.
3317
With parentheses to symbolize the strict comparison.
Less than or equal to -> nonstrict
Less than -> strict
No, $(-4,5)$, with the parentheses.
3317
If it wasn't strict, it'd be $[-4,5]$, because $-4$ and $5$ would be in the range.
3317
As I've said, $-4$ and $5$ aren't in $(-4,5)$.
3317
$(-4,5)$ for this question.
3317
parentheses -> non inclusive of the outer points (they are open holes)
square parentheses -> inclusive of them (closed holes)
Yep, but now $-7$ and $5$ are in the domain.
3317
Couldn't have said better myself.
That's it.
is it parentheses or square brackets?
no, there is always one or the other
in a domain
yep
man is your teacher teaching anything? it seems like we have to teach it to you like it's a new concept lol
sorry I didn't mean that in a harsh way
just wondering
ah
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jeez
stop abusing help channel
ramonov and i already explained it
you don't put f(-2) in your answer
you ignored us all 4 times
what part of "don't put f(-2) in your answer" doesn't make sense?
you are being asked for the y-coordinate of the point on the graph with an x-coordinate of -2
what is the y-coordinate of that point
why
enter that value and ONLY that value and NOTHING ELSE
what value did you enter
.
f(-2)-5 is not the y-value of the point at the specified location
you keep putting f(-2) in your answer
like i said, it's against the rules to give answers
f(-2) = -5
don't write f(-2)
write the y-coordinate of the point
don't open/close/make channels like this
its extremely rude too
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hi
Im insanely confused
Question number 14
I figured it out and did the math but i have no idea what letter it is
And why is it that letter
P.s sorry for horrible writing
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Hmmm
So i graphed it but im confused on what the letter is
I chose d because i had no idea what i was doing
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To find the area of the Trapezium on the left, can I use ((b1+b2)h)/2?
Or do the bases need to be parallel for that formula to work
Yes
lmao
yeah, good times with keyboard math
it's a trap
You basically split the shape into two triangles
Do you have any measurements?
This is like, 90% of what high school geometry consists of lol
it's horrid that different places use trapezium/trapezoid differently
No, just wondering if there is a formula to follow for area with them both
What pure said
No, for an irregular shape like that, you'd probably split it up into triangles like Pure said
But isn't that what this does? ((b1+b2)h)/2
there's no simple formula for area of an irregular quadrilateral
So this would only work for the trapezoid on the right? ((b1+b2)h)/2
that is a formula for a 4-gon with a pair of parallel bases, i.e. a trapezoid (🇺🇸)
it does not even make SENSE to apply this same formula on the left. you understand that, don't you?
That formula models the trapezoid as half of a parallelogram, basically. It only works because the bases are parallel
OK
so for the left trapezium what information do i need to solve the area?
make it into two triangles, bottom left corner to top right corner, split it in half
but what formula would I use?
Uhhh, could be a variety of things.
thats what I used already
This is again the one for a trapezoid with parallel bases
grøn=green
orange=orange
these images are only helpful for parallel trapezoid
There isn't one. It depends entirely on the information you're given
OK, this math problem sounds like a lot of fun
I will close it here. TY for your help
I think you might be right about this
only works for trapezoids with a parallel base
trapezium with circumference lines in all directions does not work with this formula
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help pls
What's the question?
Looks good
If this is the only information you have, then there are a bunch of functions you can draw
ok
But yeah, you satisfied the two things it says
how do i do this
evaluate
ik there's asymptote at 3
and it's going from the left
Okay, so from the left
positive infinite?
Yeah, because near 3 the expression will be positive
bruh answer key wrong
What does the answer key say?
Yeah answer key def wrong
Did you try anything for this one?
@wraith hinge Has your question been resolved?
sorry i was eating
no idk how to approach this
Could rewrite it as $\frac{1}{x\cos x}$ if that helps
tatpoj
@wraith hinge think about what happens to cos(x) at x=pi/2
Hm
wait i meant 0
cos(pi/2) = 0
Yeah
So imagine
$\frac{1}{\left(\frac{\pi}{2}^+\right) \cos \left(\frac{\pi}{2}^+\right)}$
tatpoj
I'm abusing notation a little here, but I'm using $\frac{\pi}{2}^+$ to represent a number very close to $\frac{\pi}{2}$ on the positive side
ok
tatpoj
cos(x) is actually negative for x just greater than pi/2
Okay
I think you kind of just need to be familiar with trig functions honestly
You're probably expected to just kind of know that
Oof, yeah that would make it harder
I guess just make sure you're familiar with the graphs of sin x and cos x
There's not really a good way to figure it out otherwise
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