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aught just asking, thanks

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rugged jay
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is this deep enough understanding of division and unit conversion or do I need to go deeper ?

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zenith shard
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hmm

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is the speed actually relevant here?

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it kinda feels like red herring info

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unless theres another q after

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anyways

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6km/liter

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travelling 150km

rugged jay
# rugged jay

I tried to solve it using just pure logic and division, I basically pretended like I didnt know what cancelling was or any other rules that I could not explain in words

zenith shard
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150/6=25 litres needed

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the car already has 20 litres

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so you need to find the price of 5 litres

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0.60*5=$3.00 of fuel

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now, it does say for the entire drive, so if we know 5 litres is a fifth of what’s needed, then $3.00 is a fifth of the price.

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$3.00*5=$15.00

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WanderingFurr

zenith shard
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cheers TeXit

rugged jay
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the point is to explicitly avoid multiplication since division (especially with multiple units) is harder to visualize

zenith shard
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hmm

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is that a constraint to answering the question or just to avoid confusion?

rugged jay
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so the point is to understand division intuitively (basically able to understand perfectly whats happening)

like in this step

[liters-(km)] / [liters-(dollars)] this is basically liters/liters

after my explanation, you can understand intuitively why liters and liters cancel, you dont need to use keep change flip and rely on multiplication to understand it

zenith shard
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right

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zenith shard
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oh i see why i was confused by you’re working. \
you’re saying \ $\frac{6km}{liter}$ = liters_{km} \ $\frac{0.6}{liter}$ = liter_{dollars}

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whoops

rugged jay
# zenith shard whoops

ye is there a syntax for that ?
im basically translating both dollars and kilometers to liters

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and then doing some work with them, they have a "common language" like that

zenith shard
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I get wym

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The missing = just screwed with me

rugged jay
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so you think this is a intuitive enough understanding of division only unit conversion ?

zenith shard
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Clear up that you mean 6km/liter = $liters_{km}$ and 0.6 dollars/liter = $liters_{dollars}$ and you’re good

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WanderingFurr

rugged jay
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rugged jay
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well its not like the concept of unit conversion changes there anyways

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tnx for the help

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Yw!

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hexed bison
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I am having trouble showing uniform convergence for this. I want to bound the f_n by a sequence of supremums of the functions, but I don't know how to show that it goes to 0

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@hexed bison Has your question been resolved?

granite thorn
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Use continuity of S in 1

hexed bison
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Maybe I should use uniform continuity of S(x) on [0,1] since that’s stronger

strange sparrow
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You are not given that S is unif continuous though

whole halo
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is this what I think it is

strange sparrow
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Anyway, do as syssou said, pick some δ so that |f| < ε on (1-δ, 1], then...

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|S| not |f| sorry

whole halo
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is this your solution

strange sparrow
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I think that's their attempt

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they showed that fn → 0 but they need help showing the convergence is uniform

whole halo
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the first half should already do that if you reword it

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nvm

strange sparrow
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yes just some minor modifications are needed

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# strange sparrow You need to argue separately as in here

Ok so once I do that, I think I can get to this, but I want to make sure this isn't bad maths:

Given that $S$ is continuous on $[0,1]$, $\forall \epsilon > 0$, $x, a \in [0,1]$, $\exists \delta > 0$ such that if $|x - a| < \delta$, $|S(x) - S(a)| < \epsilon$. Hence, $\forall x \in [1 - \delta, 1]$, $|S(x)| < \epsilon$.

Then, $\forall n \in \mathbb{N}$, $x \in [1-\delta, 1]$, $|x^nS(x)| < x^n\epsilon \leq \epsilon$

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Mr. BananaHead

hexed bison
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I guess I need to add that $\delta \leq 1$

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Mr. BananaHead

strange sparrow
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the wording of your ϵ-δ is a bit strange

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you are specifically using the continuity of S at 1 so you should just replace a with 1 from the get go (the way you phrased it makes it seem like S is uniformly continuous, which is not given)

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also you want 1-δ < 1, weak inequality is not enough for the next part of the argument

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calm oxide
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hi guys - could i get some help here? i know i need to use cartesian equations of the 3d plane but im a bit unsure how to start

calm oxide
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cartesian equations should be x, y, z

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so i think it would be like 1.5 for z

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but how would you establish x and y? or does it not really matter

honest carbon
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I don't know what z refers to in your drawing.

calm oxide
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sorry, the drawing im referring to is in the question

honest carbon
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The drawing in the question does not establish x y and z

calm oxide
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it is a cartesian plane on the 3D plane

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sorry i just kind of assumed

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not sure how else to start it honestly

honest carbon
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Start by redrawing the cube in your 3d plane. My suggestion is that to make things easier, make the chopped corner be at (0,0,0)

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boreal hound
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hey can i ask physics numerical questions?

boreal hound
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At what temperature is the root mean square speed of nitrogen molecules equald to the root mean square of the hydrogen molecules at 20 degree celcisu? ( Molecular mass of hydrogen and nitrogen are 2g/mol and 28 g/mol respectively)

tranquil pine
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what have you tried so far

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boreal hound
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eyyy thanks for that

tranquil pine
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there exists physics server but the server is dead

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🥀

boreal hound
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thats sad

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anyways going back to the question i just solved it

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thanks though

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in that case if you dont have any further queries you can close this channel

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proud igloo
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im being very silly but need a nudge.
where x,y are in an ordered field \
If I have $0<x<y$ \
prove $x^2<y^2$ \
I have that by $x>0$ and $y<z$ $xy<xz$ \
$x^2<xy$ and $y^2<xy$ \

proud igloo
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but I cant think of any other useful propositions or axioms

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Nyxzore

runic needle
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how did you get y^2 < xy

proud igloo
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by the proposition that if
$x>0$ and $y<z \quad xy<xz$

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Nyxzore

runic needle
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and what is z here...

strange sparrow
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that gives you x² < xy no

proud igloo
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yes but i also know y>0

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from the second line

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by transitivity

strange sparrow
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I think you reversed the inequalities

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it's xy < y²

runic needle
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ok so y^2 < xy is not true

strange sparrow
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not y² < xy

runic needle
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x^2 < xy, yes

proud igloo
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oh i did

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omg

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then its just $x^2<xy<y^2$

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Nyxzore

proud igloo
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im so fckn silly

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proud igloo
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ty lante ❤️

strange sparrow
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and mayer-vietoris

runic needle
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welcome...

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let $f$ and $g$ be two polynomials of equal degree $n$ with real coefficients. If $f=g$ and $f$ has some fixed value of its discriminant as 'D', then does $g$ also have the same discriminant?

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rustic wedge
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I am interested particularly in the $n=2$ and $n=3$ case

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rak³en

leaden moon
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how do you define $f = g$ tho

soft zealotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

rustic wedge
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oh right should also mention this is a tangent from something called ferrarris method

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for solving a quartic

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why does this work?

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and if it works does this property hold in general?

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(y is a numerical constant which is to be solved for to factorise the quartic into two quadratics)

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rustic wedge
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hello?

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old quarry
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helloo

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weary cosmos
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What is the original question
or youre just asking it?

vital crag
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vital crag
# rustic wedge

Just guessing without more context that u and y are the variables representing the two polynomials f and g

rustic wedge
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f and g are both variables in u

vital crag
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That begs more questions than answers

rustic wedge
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yeah idk

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distant turret
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hollow

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polar spruce
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hi what is the question

distant turret
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Why mitochondria is power house of the cell?

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🧘‍♂️

polar spruce
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because it generates atp (energy)

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keen cradle
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Guys can someone help me with this pls

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!15min

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pliant elk
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stats is not my thing gng

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keen cradle
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Fuck u

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Stupid idiot

vital crag
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yikes

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good riddance

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shell condor
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Surely 3

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Now do you have an actual problem?

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Don't troll in the help channels please, use #chill if you wanna have fun

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If you're stuck in a question or need help with a problem, feel free to ask

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Oh god

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Okay again, please only ask actual problems you're stuck in, for jest, move to #chill

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Kk

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timber plume
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I need help with this example

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from the start 🙂

vital crag
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do you know why -1 <= sinx <= 1

timber plume
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yes

vital crag
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where do you get lost then

timber plume
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second line

tribal osprey
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He just divides by x

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And he can do that as he restricts himself to x > 0

timber plume
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where did he divide by x?

tribal osprey
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At the second line of the example

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He divided the whole inequality by x

timber plume
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I do not see it 😭

timber plume
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timber plume
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ive beeen trying to understand

vapid hound
vapid hound
soft zealotBOT
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foxxeil

vapid hound
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or is that what you are trying to understand

timber plume
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not really

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where did they get x from?

vital crag
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because sin(x)/x is in the question

vapid hound
# timber plume where did they get x from?

we can take it a step back; $2 = 2 \implies \frac{2}{x} = \frac{2}{x}$, as you can divide both sides by x, as x is equal. the same applies to inequalities given that values are real and non-negative.

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foxxeil

vapid hound
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hence, you can divide all sides by x

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does this make sense?

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hallow gust
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I got the right answer but was it correct to do it without any continuity corrections?

night raft
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but this depends on the mark scheme or what your teacher says

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hallow gust
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But why tho, why no continuity correction

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Is it cuz it’s binomial -> normal -> x bar?

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Also (different question) here in part ii why don’t we do poisson -> normal -> x bar?

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calm ermine
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U got it correct

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X bar ≈ N(1.6,1.6/75)

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CLT already implies the sample mean and the standardized sample mean is normally distributed so we can go directly from a poisson distribution to a Normal without first approximating the Poisson

Also since lambda=2 is very small appriximating the poisson first using Normal doesn't even make sense its gonna be a garbage approximation

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Via clt x bar follows a continuous distribution

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Z also follows a continous distribution

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If the og question asked you to find P(X<a) then when u go to X bar using clt ud use continuity correction

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tribal nexus
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if (f(x+h)-f(x))/h≈f'(x) then
f(x+h)≈f(x)+hf'(x)
is there a way i can get a better estimate of f(x+h) using second derivatives?

slow coral
tribal nexus
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oh ok

tribal nexus
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how can i do this

trail mango
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you may want to google finite difference methods or something

slow coral
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i just wrote everything out and you can use a taylor expansion of it

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$f(x+h) \approx f(x) + h f'(x) + \frac{h^2}{2} f''(x).$

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i appreciate the help everyone

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tender pollen
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like why we do it

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does it make sense

tribal nexus
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oh sure

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im doing it to like approximate square roots

tender pollen
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ok basically

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we want the nth derivative to match with our function

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that's the motivation

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the nth derivative matches with our function

tribal nexus
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oh

tender pollen
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so for example, our linear approximation

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the 0th and 1st derivatives at a match with f

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for the quadratic approximation, the 0th, 1st, and 2nd derivatives at a match with f

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that's aslo where the n! comes from

tribal nexus
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oh

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what do you mean by match?

tender pollen
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it's the same

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so let $T_1(x)=f(a)+f'(a)(x-a)$

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nadat12

tender pollen
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then $T_1(a)=f(a)$ and $T_1'(a)=f'(a)$

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nadat12

trail mango
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ts channel will close 🥀

tribal nexus
tender pollen
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same with the quadratic approximations

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if you do this to infinity, you get the taylor series of f

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which matches all of the derivatives of f at a

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sometimes, the taylor series even equals f!

tribal nexus
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ah i see

tender pollen
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(there's a few theorems on how taylor polynomials converge to f)

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(taylor polynomials being those "matching" derivative functions)

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thanks

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late gazelle
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if i take the 4th root of an integer, do I only get the one solution?

sturdy cypress
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no

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it's even

late gazelle
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i figured, its like a square root right

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if i have x^4 = K i get x = K^1/4

sturdy cypress
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yes it's also a square root of something

late gazelle
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so i get x = +-K^1/4 right

sturdy cypress
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sure

proud roost
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it would still satsify the given equation

late gazelle
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for it being an integer/real number still

proud roost
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but if the given thing itself is like x= 4th root of K then you would get only 1 solution

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i think

late gazelle
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yea thats true

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okie, ty - was just checking if i had more than just the principle root being a real number still

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tahts why sqrtx is always positive

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oh, how do i find the exact value of this

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late gazelle
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bc i get arctan(3/sqrt3 )

proud roost
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its in quadrant 3

lilac bison
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also you can simplify 3/sqrt3 further

late gazelle
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sqrt3

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oh

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yea thats how those work isnt it

proud roost
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but its in quadrant 3 so u subtract pi

late gazelle
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yea ik, so we get pi/3* - pi

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so -2pi/3

proud roost
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A?

late gazelle
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mhm yes

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oh, this is a odd question

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so that gives me 0 = 0

lilac bison
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complex roots always come in pairs

late gazelle
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then do i do polynomial long div?

late gazelle
lilac bison
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yes

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that should be a big giveaway

late gazelle
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id only need to do long div if it wanted the other root

proud roost
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used sum of roots

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formula

old quarry
proud roost
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to find other root

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:d

lilac bison
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well just from knowing this you can immediately find the answer but yeah what the other peple are saying

proud roost
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-3-i
-3+i
and lets say x are roots

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use sum of roots =-b/a

late gazelle
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oh it does want the other root

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so, polynomial long div or whats the thingy called where you check like 0, 1, 2, -1, -2

old quarry
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trial and error

proud roost
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-3-i-3+i+x= -4

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x=2

late gazelle
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where did the x come from?

proud roost
late gazelle
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oh right

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so are we saying b is 4 and a is 1?

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nvm

proud roost
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b is co-eff of z^2

late gazelle
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yea i realised that it was a degree 3, then deg 2, then deg 1 and 0... bc i thought the rhs had stuff we needed to use

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i got cisx/sinxcosx

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oh wait nvm

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it should be cis(-x)/sinxcosx

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hmmm, a = 2i is not one of the answers

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do I not just subst. Z = -2+i and simplify then solve for a? by setting the resulting thingy to 0

proud roost
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yea i think thats the only way

late gazelle
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what am i doing wrong 😭 i get 2+9i + a(-2+i) = 0

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is a not equal to 2i?

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oh wait nvm

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oh thats funny

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i wrote my 9 too much like a 4 and it became a 4 on my final step

proud roost
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lol

late gazelle
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-1 +4i is 100% more reasonable loll

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a question that looks like this should be illegal

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is the fastest way to find the modulus just by expanding everything and then simplifying or is there a trick to make it faster?

proud roost
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do you know modulo properties

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if there are multiple products in a given expression and if your asked to find the modulo of the expression then you can just find each terms modulo individually and multiply them

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it works no matter how many there are

late gazelle
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i got something like mod(a/b) = mod(a)/mob(b) where mod(b) = mod(b1) * mod(b2) * mod(b3)

proud roost
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modulus of cis of anything is 1, modulus of i is 1 aswell i think you can figure out the rest

late gazelle
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mod (cis(a)) = 1

proud roost
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yep

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because cis(a) is cosa+isina

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cos^2a+sin^2a is 1 so ye

late gazelle
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thats if its {cis(a)}^2 tho

proud roost
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sqrt 1 is still 1

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square root = sqrt

late gazelle
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i dont see how we get that

proud roost
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cisa = cosa+isina right

late gazelle
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yes

proud roost
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take mod now

late gazelle
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ohhhhhhhhh

proud roost
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mod of cisa= sqrt (cos^2a+sin^2a)

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or 1

late gazelle
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that makes more sense now

proud roost
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this makes alot sense because for me i was taught as e^ix=cosx+isinx which maps out a unit circle

late gazelle
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i havent learnt that but ive seen countless videos about that expression

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oh yea, bc for any x its always 1

proud roost
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ya i heard it got voted as the most beautiful equation or smth

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e^ipi + 1=0

late gazelle
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bc if x = pi, we get the vector at -1 on the unit circle so e^ipi = -1 so e^ipi + 1 = 0

proud roost
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its very easy to derive tho because
e^x has the expansion 1+x+x^2/2!+x^3/3!... infinity now if you keep x=itheta and if we serperate the real and imaginary parts in the taylor expansion we get costheta expansion in real part and sintheta expansion in imaginary part

late gazelle
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yea the taylor series of e^x evaluated at itheta

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sooo, im getting 3/4 but its obv not the correct answer

proud roost
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3???

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1^3 is not 3 check again ;-;

late gazelle
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as in mod({cis(a)}^3) = 3mod(cis(a)) = 3*1 = 3

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oh wait

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nvm, thats for args

proud roost
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yes

late gazelle
proud roost
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almost

late gazelle
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lemme try it rq

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oh wait

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how do we do that, bc its got an x in there and we also need to know what a is

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should we get something like:

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$(x-3+i)^2 + a(x-3+i) + 10 = 0$

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proud roost
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they said linear factor

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meaning this expression is a factor

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not root

late gazelle
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oh so we get instead

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$(x-3+i)(x^2 + ax + 10)$

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proud roost
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no bro

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x^2=ax+10 = (x-3+i)(smth)

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it is a factor of the given equation

late gazelle
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i dont understand sorry

late gazelle
proud roost
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do you know what factor means/

late gazelle
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i should >.<

proud roost
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is 3 a factor of 9

late gazelle
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yes

proud roost
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why

late gazelle
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bc 3*something = 9 alt. 9/3 = something which is a constant integer?

proud roost
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is x+1 a factor of x^2+2x+1

late gazelle
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yea

proud roost
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why

late gazelle
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bc (x+1)*something = x^2 + 2x + 1

proud roost
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what is that something

late gazelle
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so we divide x^2 + ax + 1 by x-3+i and get an expression which should find a?

proud roost
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bro do you understand the point that x^2+ax+10 = (x-3+i)(smth) ?

late gazelle
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ye

proud roost
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so if we set x^2+ax+10 to 0 then 3-i would be a root

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but if x^2+ax+10 has all real co-effs then the roots are conjugates meaning

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the other root is??

late gazelle
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x-3-i

proud roost
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3+i... is the other root

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now use sum of roots to find a

late gazelle
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hmm, this sum of roots sure does come up a lot...

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oh so a = 6

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tysm for the help! i'll be fine with the rest

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The school asked company C to consider the issues and submit a proposal for the construction. Company C decides that they will charge $45 per metre for computing cable if it is laid in trenches which they dig, rather than using the covered walkways. The trenches would use the shortest possible distance between buildings and all buildings would be connected via trenches so they would be connected in the computer network. Draw up company Cs proposal, including a network diagram of the trenches that would need to be dug, and a costing. Justify your answer by calculations and network theory.

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I dont understand what its asking me to do

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I have spent like 7h trying to figure things out and i dont get it

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I understand its asking for a minimum spanning tree but what trips me is that i cant use the black lines

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Ive tried to use an existing MST consisting of the 'walkways' (blacj lines) and tried to make my own lines to make it smaller in distance but it didnt seem right

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I then tried to do the whole thing and highlight MST path but somehow got a longer length

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i've also asked like 5 of my friends and they keep doing a MST with the black lines - not what the question is asking

timber leaf
radiant oxide
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But idk what to draw and where

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cuz i cant use the blac lines

rare island
radiant oxide
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yes

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its a pathway

rare island
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hmm

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are you permitted to use programming to solve this?

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like python for example

radiant oxide
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errmmm idk bc this isnt even for a IT subject

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Its math standard😭

rare island
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its math right

radiant oxide
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idk why its asking me to be an architect and build own trenches

timber leaf
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Lowkey vague

rare island
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have you been taught prim's algorithm?

radiant oxide
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Yes

rare island
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ok that might be a good starting point then

radiant oxide
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I used kruskals for question 2 which was find MST using black lines

rare island
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i see

radiant oxide
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But this is asking for same thing without black lines and i feel like i dont evne know where t start and where to draw what

rare island
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from what im seeing literally all the edges are blacked out

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maybe its asking for the shortest hamiltonian path

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trenches can be your edges

radiant oxide
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I feel like i should be using my mst using black lines as a 'guide' but at the same time idek what the question is asking

rare island
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but yea this is uneccessarily vague

radiant oxide
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i asked like 4 different ai's and it all gave me diffenrent answers

radiant oxide
rare island
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yea very

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do you have office hours with your professor?

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maybe ask for help on this one cause i dont understand exactly what the question wants us to do

radiant oxide
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Um yea but its like due tmr so i cant rlly ask anyone

rare island
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aint that wonderful

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uh lemme look at it again

radiant oxide
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actually chatgpt unreliable

rare island
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ok firstly, what's the scale of this graph you've given us

radiant oxide
rare island
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1cm on what surface

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i dont see a legend on the picture

radiant oxide
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Like u just measure the black line w a ruler

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Oh yea i kinda cropped picture

rare island
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yes yes but you realise how the scale of the image is different across different screens?

radiant oxide
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I have a paper drwn diagram with labels

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Does that

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elo

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help

rare island
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that would help you with the calculations once you have the shortest path

rare island
radiant oxide
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MST and network diagram

rare island
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they have high schoolers doing this stuff

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holy

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anywyas

radiant oxide
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That migjt be clearer

rare island
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so your job essentially is to make a path that visits every node. the distance between each node is what we'd call the cost(this refers to your building cost)

radiant oxide
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yes

rare island
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your job is to minimise said building cost

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the hard part is finding an optimal path that visits every node

radiant oxide
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yes

rare island
radiant oxide
rare island
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yes could you tell me the exact path you followed

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because to me it looks like you made a cycle in there which violates the conditions of a tree

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and does the path even need to be a tree?

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a tree is not neccessarily the most optimal path here

radiant oxide
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Wait what cycle

rare island
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to me it looks like EJPCB forms a cycle

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which violates the criteria of a tree

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a tree cannot have any cycles in it

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which is why i ask for clarification on what the red path exactly is

tribal stratus
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bad questrion

rare island
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like tell me what the path is

radiant oxide
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U gay josh

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Ok wait

rare island
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this is the defintion of a real life application

radiant oxide
rare island
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that first image is a satisfactory spanning tree

radiant oxide
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😭

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I thought it was the same

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so I sent it

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Ok so i drew the paper one, a minimum spanning tree

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That fllws the walkways

rare island
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its all good

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so you have the minimum spanning tree

radiant oxide
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yes

rare island
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now just bring out the calcultor

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and multiply the total length

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and add up the costs

radiant oxide
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It was like378m and $13230

rare island
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sounds about right?

radiant oxide
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yea

rare island
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well then we're done

radiant oxide
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thats

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q2

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tho

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😭

rare island
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wtf is q3

radiant oxide
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q4 says dont use the walkways u have to create ur own vertices

rare island
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wdym create ur own vertices?

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that would mean creating my own buildings/halls

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you mean your own edges right?

radiant oxide
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i mean

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edges

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yea

rare island
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alright

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so the game is to figure out the cheapest route

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with no restrictions on what our path will be

radiant oxide
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and the edges u create are suppose to be smaller in length than 378m at the end

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yes

rare island
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alright

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now i suggest using code to compute the cheapest possible path

radiant oxide
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how do i do that idk anything ab

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coding

rare island
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unless you've been taught some algorithm for the shortest possible path

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ok first things try just making small improvements on the existing path

radiant oxide
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isnt it like

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dijkstra

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idk

rare island
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nvm

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yes djsktra could work

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any recursive search technique works here

radiant oxide
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and ishld i js repeat the process for each edge in my mst

rare island
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yes, try any possible optimisation

radiant oxide
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but if for eg the legnth between A-B is like 10m and cant get any smaller i leave it as it is

rare island
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ye

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you can either use your own hands to find a shortest path, or use an algorithm from the internet to give you the shortest path using a recursive algorithm

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if you do end up using an LLM, tell it to create an algorithm that accepts an adjacency matrix for the graph along with a corresponding graph of the cost of every possible edge and then finds the shortest path possible using recursion

radiant oxide
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okay

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thank u somuch

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i appreciate it

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you're welcome

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ok... wtf? why do i only get the solution the second i post them

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smj

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ok actually, what did we define n as at the start?

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is it just some product p^a(p) for some a(p)

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then d(n)=2^k iff a(p)=2^(b(p))-1 and the sum of b(p)=k?

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honestly im having a hard time grasping the solution as its really abstract for me

raven marsh
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nice problem

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oh

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go on aops

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i remember there being better sols

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mont is being fancy

jagged flare
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mm sure

raven marsh
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i had apmo today

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my first time taking part

jagged flare
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forums right

jagged flare
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is apmo invitational like imo

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ik its prestigious and the questions are hard

desert mantle
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alpha(p) is just whatever the exponent of p turns out to be

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you should know the formula for the number of divisors given the prime factorization

jagged flare
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mm ok yeah

desert mantle
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so the first few sentences really just write themselves

jagged flare
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then why is n the product of subset T of S, where S is primes in the form of p^(2^i), when the above statement implies n is the product of primes in the form p^(2^i-1), or is that just a mistake?

raven marsh
raven marsh
jagged flare
raven marsh
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fah

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not rlly

jagged flare
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are you eligible for imo yet

raven marsh
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theres people much much better than me

desert mantle
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also advice is dont try to comprehend those sigmas and products all at once

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the author is just cooking with complicated notation

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see if you can break it doen

desert mantle
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into S we are putting the numbers 5^1, 5^2, 5^4, 5^8, 5^16, ...

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so T would include 5^1, 5^2, 5^4 here

jagged flare
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ohh wait ok i see

raven marsh
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sigma

jagged flare
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mmmm ok ok i get it

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thank you so much guys!

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help, this problem makes me think if i should pursue engineering

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low snow
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Rest is simple integration

whole jungle
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what's the antiderivative of cot x?

low snow
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Integration of cosecx * cotx is cosecx

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Negative of cosecx

whole jungle
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can't find cot x in here, im basing on what my teacher taught us, so uhm google says that the integration of cot x have natural logarithm but we haven't gotten there...

low snow
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Uh it's cotx/sinx which is equal to cotx*cscx

whole jungle
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ohh

whole jungle
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OHH

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i get it now

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@low snow

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north spear
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hi i need help with this math problem

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north spear
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here is the translate on it in english

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i know every step how to solve this type of question but i struggle to understand when reflection in the line x_2=-2x_1

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what this mean and how i need to think about this step

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anyone who know how to think on this step?

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i asked gemini and he told me just to have 1= x_1 and x_2= -2

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so it will be v= [ 1 -2]

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is it just this simple?

night raft
north spear
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i need to learn how to think about this part just

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i know the rest of the question how to solve it

night raft
north spear
versed crater
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In R³ I recommend using projections to help you think about this

north spear
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where the reflexion is on the x_3-axis?

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what i understand on this is that x1 and x2 changes but nothing happens to x3

versed crater
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Yeah so imagine this

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If you want to know how the map transforms vectors you want to see what it does to basis vectors

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So pic a basis vector red one and look at its projection onto the line of reflection

north spear
versed crater
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Now if you add twice the difference to red you get the reflected vector

versed crater
north spear
versed crater
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No I said imagine this

north spear
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uhhh okay i see

versed crater
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You can see it in 2D but surely you can try to formulate it for higher dimensions

north spear
versed crater
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What do you mean which rule

north spear
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in R3 its always that i need to this [ 1 0 0 ,0 1 0, 0 0 1]

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on the type of questions but for R2 its always just [1 0] (example)

versed crater
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Why is it only [1 0]

north spear
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And in R2 it just like reflection on x1 to -x2

north spear
versed crater
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What do these brackets even mean

north spear
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but on R3 it just a reflection just on 1 x-axes

versed crater
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In this picture you need to do the (0, 1) vertical basis vector as well

north spear
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what i mean is in R3 we always think about the general rule of [ 1 0 0 ,0 1 0, 0 0 1] and thats what u change based on the information on the question right? it cannot be like R2 where reflection on x_1 to -2x_2 for example

north spear
versed crater
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I do not know of this general rule you speak about

north spear
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of [ 1 0 0 ,0 1 0, 0 0 1]

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idk what its called in english

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but its a rule

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right @night raft ?

night raft
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I don't get what you mean either sadthink

north spear
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In R3 its [ 1 0 0 ,0 1 0, 0 0 1] and in R2 its [ 1 0 , 0 1]

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thats what i mean

night raft
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are you talking about the identity matrix?

north spear
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yes

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in this type of question i get for example in R3 they ask me just do a reflection of the identity matrix

north spear
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where here i need just swap x2 and x1 and let x3 be

north spear
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or i am just a delulu

versed crater
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It’s like you didn’t even read what I wrote

north spear
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i never draw in linear algebra...

versed crater
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Surely you have learned about projection one vector onto another vector

north spear
versed crater
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Then go revise it

north spear
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just practicing the old exams

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the question are all similar to each other

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Then all you become is a very bad computer

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A flooring tile has the shape of a parallelogram whose base is 24 cm and the corresponding height is 10 cm. How many such tiles are required to cover a floor of area 1080 m2?

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robust hollow
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2

robust hollow
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finding the area of one tile

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which is 240cm^2

manic leaf
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now what is the total area to be covered?

robust hollow
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1080m^2

manic leaf
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now natrually

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how would you try to find the solution

robust hollow
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by dividing it?

manic leaf
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yes but can you divide it directly?

robust hollow
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nope i gotta convert

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1080 * 100 * 100 / 24 * 10

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which is 45000

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is it correct?

manic leaf
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looks right

robust hollow
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ig that's the answer

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just seeking a clarification: should the argument of either f_j or g_j be x instead of y?

dense coral
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surely, right? otherwise the statement seems false? pikathink

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hey, i am solving for question c

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and when i solved it

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i think the answer from the teacher is incorrect

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This is the teacher answer

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and this is my answer

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so which one is correct ?

drowsy epoch
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,w 3x^2-6x<0

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that's why you can include them

fast ocean
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so both are correct ?

drowsy epoch
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i'd say yes, since it doesn't make a difference for strictly monotonous functions

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i would ask your prof tho seems like a matter of preference

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How would I even approach a question like this:

Given some random draw of five distinct numbers (repeats allowed) from {1,2,...,20}, what is the chance that a true arithmetic equation can be formed using ALL of the five numbers, the operations +,-,*,/,^,! and parentheses?

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  • Five numbers are drawn (for instance, we might get (1,1,5,8,20)
  • Their order is irrelevant
  • If a number is drawn n times, it must be used exactly n times.
  • We must form a true arithmetic expression, eg. 20+5+17=(4!)+18

Follow-up question: Given that the numbers are each drawn uniformly, what is the expected value of one side of such an expression?

My only insight thus far is that we only need to consider partitions of (1,4) or (2,3) numbers on each side of the equals sign, respectively. An equation with 0 numbers on one side is not an equation at all and (3,2) or (4,1) are equivalent because equality is a symmetric relation.

pliant elk
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define a true mathematical equation

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can i use any function i want to

dire narwhal
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You may use only the 5 numbers (once each), the operators +,-,*,/,^,! and parentheses.

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so no arbitrary functions are allowed. In that case it'd trivially always be possible and the expected value would be... whatever you want it to be

pliant elk
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if we are only using + -

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modular arithmetic can help us deduce cases where it is not possible

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and ^ , ! makes it hell

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in anycase

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we would have to find cases where it is not possible

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I mean intuitively it seems likely that 16,17,18,19,20 would be a counter-example? But how would I prove or disprove that, let alone find some sort of general rule to apply?

desert mantle
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are you doing this just for fun?

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I dont see any reason to believe that there should be any nice way to solve this

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the four fours puzzle shows that shit can get crazy

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But it also shows that some combinations are unsolvable using only the operations allowed in this

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The Dirichlet Problem for a Rectangle:

hey I’m stuck on equation 4, I don’t get where sinh is coming from, but I kinda get where sin is coming from. From my understanding case 1 is the only of the 3 cases to meet the BC because we can let c1 be 0 without u being zero always. Then it’s

$$c_2sin(bx)\left(d_1e^{by}+d_2e^{-by}\right)$$

Which I can see why we’d be tending towards cosh, but I feel like they have some bias for choosing sinh beyond it looking nice matching sin(bx). I get I can just let d2 be negative and then boom I have a sinh but I just don’t get why we’re doing that. I feel like what follows 4 is more of a justification for why it works rather than why it is what works as opposed to alternatives

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Nathan

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candid hull
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they did the work, they're just not showing it to you

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so it's a good opportunity for you to check they didn't fuck up somewhere by doing the work yourself

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candid hull
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From my understanding case 1 is the only of the 3 cases to meet the BC because we can let c1 be 0 without u being zero always.
like ok you might be able to intuit that c1 has to be 0 by eyeballing it

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why can b be only n*pi/L though ? at some point you gotta struggle with the BCs

heavy grove
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Is it cause it makes it always 0 at the endpoints of the side?

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And I think I derived it properly, I’ll show a photo in a sec, but I just spammed BCs until I solved for d2 in terms of d1 and was able to factor and manipulate some stuff to get me that sinh

candid hull
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yeah indeed

heavy grove
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epic sauce

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Okay I think that is all

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Thank ya

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I’ll send my work one momento

candid hull
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aight

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chilly rover
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Can someone explain me 13 and 14, I dont understand them

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I am confused at the plotting part

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plotting

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xyz one

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i mess that up so much

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chilly rover
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This is so weird

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lemme draw mine and show u

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vague bear
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How would we go about checking if two graphs are isomorphic

rocky tusk
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by finding the isomorphism

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if it exists

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if not just see if it violates some of the necessary conditions for

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the graphs being isomorphic

vague bear
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Yeah I mean

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How would we go about finding the isomorphism function

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Or it's lack thereog

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Thereof

rocky tusk
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so you’re mapping corresponding vertices in the graph

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it would help if you checked the degrees and found where the edges were in each

vague bear
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Uhh

short talon
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are you asking for an algorithm?

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it's a hard problem in general

vague bear
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I wanna build towards that but rn I just want an intuitive way I can check two graphs isomorphic or not myself

short talon
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there are some crazy state of the art algorithms, but there isn't anything significantly better than just brute force checking each possible mapping

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Hmm

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I see

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Oh well

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hollow gust
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What is calculus (for simple explaining) lesson 1

desert mantle
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the study of how things change

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these help channels arent for questions like this

hollow gust
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Link pls for calculus

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go to one of the discussion channels

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go use google

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Ok

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tender heart
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I need help with b), I need to prove whether the function is even or odd, idk if what i did was great

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,rccw

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drowsy epoch
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Why did +1 become -1

tender heart
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Oh wait im stupid

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I accidentally did smth similar to multiplying the function with -1, oopsies

drowsy epoch
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Noooo

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it's all g

tender heart
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So

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It should be sin -x(1+2cos-x)+1

drowsy epoch
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yes

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and then you can factor out -

tender heart
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So sin -x is equal to -sin x and then it becomes sin x with factorising the -

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Right?

drowsy epoch
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sin(-x)=-sin(x) because sine is odd

tender heart
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Indeed

drowsy epoch
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so then we would have $-\sin(x)(1+2\cos(x))+1=-(\sin(x)(1+2\cos(x))-1)$

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tender heart
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And cos -x id cos x because cosine is even?

drowsy epoch
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yes

tender heart
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Uhh

drowsy epoch
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As a clue: I tried to pull out - to see if we can conclude f(-x)=-f(x) for example, but that doesn't seem to be the case

tender heart
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Indeed

drowsy epoch
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So it seems to be neither even nor odd

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Right

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inland flame
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Hi does anyone know why the answer is a?
I guessed a & my tutor said correct & im too scared to ask him why because he sounded mad already 💀

inland flame
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It just looks like it makes sense

inland kettle
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for inverse functions, just swap around x and y

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for example, if my inverse function is y = sin(x^2) the inverse function will satisfy x = sin(y^2)

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what equation would the inverse function satisfy here?

inland kettle
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!nosols

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inland kettle
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oh my god

proud roost
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ok mb

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sorry

inland kettle
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thank you

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inland flame
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Idk if i did it right tho

inland kettle
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not

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quite

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i meant for your question

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unfortunately, i have to go eat dinner

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so i won't be able to help
apologies for the abrupt departure

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but i'm pretty sure someone else will stop by

inland flame
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Oh okie enjoy your dinner!

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proud roost
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take f inverse on both sides

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you would x=f inverse of (x^3+3)

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but u need to find f inverse of x

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so say x^3+3= alpha and solve for x and replace it on lhs

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try doing it

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inland flame
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What's lhs?

proud roost
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left hand side

inland flame
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Like this? Im sorry idk what you're talking about 😭

pliant elk
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!status

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