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next thorn
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i also have to ask you about this symbol

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why did you give x a big hat?

earnest cobalt
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sand what does it mean

earnest cobalt
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its a square root i belive

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earnest cobalt
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this is second exercise tho

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so i guess we plug in 0 again?

next thorn
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yes, if it works then we're good

earnest cobalt
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top is still 0

next thorn
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how.

earnest cobalt
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its 2

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just checking you :tf:

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okay and bottom is 1

next thorn
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i dont think e^(2*0) is 0.

earnest cobalt
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its 2am almost tho

next thorn
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its okay

earnest cobalt
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so its 2/1 = 2

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solved next?

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this easy it was?

next thorn
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you do that and ill be afk for a bit

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think about what you can do

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back and

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im not very sure what to do for the second...?

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if there are any helpers spectating

earnest cobalt
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first one is 2 right

next thorn
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please do interfere

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yes it is 2... hopefully

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(x+1)^(1/sqrt(x)) sounds like a very interesting function

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i wonder how its plotted...

earnest cobalt
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i missed - before e

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i see it now

next thorn
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seems like i missed it too.

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sorry.

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@vital crag helo, what can we do for the second limit? OP claims that the exponent here is 1/sqrt(x)

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im not sure how i would force this function into inf/inf or 0/0 (for lhopital's)

earnest cobalt
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this makes any sense?

loud phoenix
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but htat means we're getting replaced by the clankers

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we shouldnt let that happen 😡

earnest cobalt
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okay cause i dont really understand so there is still space to work with

next thorn
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i can explain what the ai did.

earnest cobalt
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so i guess when we plug in infinity we get infinity^0

next thorn
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where did it confuse you

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earnest cobalt
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the step 2

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ignore step 1

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okay

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a limit just outputs a number

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lim (x^2-4)/(x-2) as x approaches 2 is just-

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a number

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and any limit is like this

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so for this specific limit

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the ai said "lets call it soemthing, like L"

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and assumed
L = our limit

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then he took ln of both ssides

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are you familiar with what ln is

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or logarithms in general?

earnest cobalt
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yea i think this is the problem i dont get it fully

all i know is that its log with e in base

next thorn
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have you learned about logarithms?

earnest cobalt
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yea

next thorn
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and their properties?

earnest cobalt
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loga b = c
a^c=b

next thorn
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are you familiar with these

earnest cobalt
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ye

next thorn
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perfect

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observe "power property"

earnest cobalt
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ye we can take it outside

next thorn
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exactly

next thorn
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we can see that our limit is rasied to the power of 1/sqrt(x)

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so we can take ln of both sides

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and drop kick the 1/sqrt(x) outside.

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so

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Ln( L ) = ln ( (ourlimit) ^1/sqrtx )

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we can bring the 1/sqrt(x) down

earnest cobalt
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yes.

earnest cobalt
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awesome i get it now

next thorn
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also we can shove the ln inside of a limit because thats one of the properties for a limit

earnest cobalt
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alr let me try to use de hospital

next thorn
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limit of x^2 = (limit of x)^2

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and that applies to a lot more stuff

earnest cobalt
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so ln inf = inf?

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and sqrt inf = inf?

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earnest cobalt
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let me just try i guess

next thorn
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ywes

earnest cobalt
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okay so im here

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but its still inf/inf

next thorn
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what happened to this

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from step 1 to step 2

earnest cobalt
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derivative?

next thorn
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oh

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sorry then 😭

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okay

next thorn
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using lhopitals again should do the trick

next thorn
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which confirms that you wont need lhopitals agian if you do it one more time

earnest cobalt
next thorn
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mhm.

earnest cobalt
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so its 1/inf

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so 0?

next thorn
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yes and notice smth very important

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we're talking about ln(L)

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not L itself, which is what we want

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so

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ln(L)=0

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can you solve for L?

earnest cobalt
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ln L = 0

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or rather

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ln(0)

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which is e?

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,w ln(0)

next thorn
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what

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ok

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first of all

earnest cobalt
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dam i suck at ln

next thorn
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ignore the bot

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no no the bot sucks

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second of all

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if

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perhaps

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2^x=3

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how would you express this in logarithms?

earnest cobalt
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a^c=b
a=2
c=x
b=3

loga b = c
log2 3 = x

next thorn
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uhm yeah sure

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log(2)_3 = x

is the log form

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which we can translate back into 2^x=3

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so

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if

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log(a)_b=c

next thorn
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ok this is a moment where i grief because i dont know latex

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earnest cobalt
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yes

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good

rocky tusk
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yeah so

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from what we're looking at

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if we have

rocky tusk
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what you wrote looks like $\log_3(2)$

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next thorn
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yeah i didnt mean to 😭

rocky tusk
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interesting

next thorn
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if we have

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loga b = c

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then c would be smth

rocky tusk
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$\log_a b = c \iff a^c = b$

next thorn
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yk

next thorn
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a^c=b

soft zealotBOT
next thorn
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perfect

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tysm

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we have

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ln(L)=0

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or log e L = 0

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can you try converting that to the exponent form and solving for L?

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earnest cobalt
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and there we go

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indeed, L=1

earnest cobalt
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nice

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anything else

earnest cobalt
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i think rest of the tasks are fine

next thorn
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amazing

earnest cobalt
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tysm

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you can .close the channel and claim another one when you have other questions

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alr

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.close

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this

earnest cobalt
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bot broke

next thorn
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fucking

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bot

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bro

earnest cobalt
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we been here too long

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.close

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oh my god

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it wont close

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okay just- go on about your exercises until the bot recovers

earnest cobalt
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alr

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cya 😄

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great luck eeveekawaii

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.reopen

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hey I need some help with a physics concept I cant succeed to understand

subtle path
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so when we assign a wave a function, we say it is a two function variable

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and in my class it says that for any function of x of a wave, it is in the form f(x-ct), where t is a fixed instant)

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why is that true

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why is it not f(x+ct)

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Otherwise it is the same

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Let $p>2$ be a prime and let $n$ be an odd positive integer. Prove that the amount of solutions to [x_1^2 + x_2^2 + ... + x_n^2 \equiv 1 \pmod{p} ] for $x_i \in \mathbb{F}_p$ is exactly [\frac{p^n + ((-1)^{\frac{p-1}{2}}p)n}{2} ]

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lol i came here everytime my exams are close

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this sem kinda tough as hell , every 5 subject is maths

lime crest
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unless could it be possible by induction on n-2 -> n?

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okay i know gpt isnt advised here but what is it cooking ;-;

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<@&286206848099549185> bwaaaa

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white venture
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If you want step by step for these types of things, Wolfram Alpha is much more reliable.

covert tree
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althoughi don't think the thing it is saying is wrong in this particular instance.

lime crest
white venture
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Also step by step explanation of the solution.

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loud sundial
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is this formula even correct

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,w \frac{p^n + ((-1)^{\frac{p-1}{2}}p)n}{2}, p=3, n=1

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loud sundial
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But there's two solutions ($1$ and $2$) in case $\mathbb{F}_3$ for $p=3$, $n=1$

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Civil Service Pigeon

loud sundial
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I think it should be

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,texsp ||$$p^{n-1}+(-1)^{\frac{(p-1)(n-1)}{4}} p^{\frac{n-1}{2}}$$||

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Civil Service Pigeon

lime crest
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oh

lime crest
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Can anyone help me understand what this is asking or how to solve this ?

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That says " f'(x) is equal to" at the end btw

tired walrus
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the ' symbol means derivative

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have you seen that before or no?

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Can anyone help me understand what this is asking or how to solve this ?

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oops

abstract mango
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Is it asking for what’s f’(x) equal?

timid jasper
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The derivative yes

abstract mango
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so use basically chain rule

timid jasper
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Also
How's 1/|x| different from 1/x ?

timid jasper
abstract mango
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,w plot ln x

abstract mango
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Ok before I plot the other one

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This is how log functions looks like, notice it’s only defined for positive real numbers

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when you write ln x , you assume you only plus positive real numbers. ln(-2) doesn’t make sense in the reals because we are asking what’s a real number such that e^x = -2

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so far cool?

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,w plot ln|x|

abstract mango
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ln |x| is defined for all reals expect zero.

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unlike ln

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you can write it as piecewise function,

ln |x| = ln(x), x>0 , ln(-x) , x < 0.

abstract mango
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it’s all reasonable choices for ln

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the domain of definition

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ask yourself does log_10 (-2) makes sense?

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log_10 (-2) is the real number x such that 10^x = -2 right?

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Eg. log_10(1) = 0 because 10^0 = 1

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or log_10(100) = 2, because 10^2 = 100.

timid jasper
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Ok so how do i go about solving it?

abstract mango
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Basically differentiate piecewise.

timid jasper
thorny otter
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What is ln(|-1|)?

timid jasper
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Yeah

abstract mango
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[
\ln |x| =
\begin{cases}
\ln x & \text{if } x > 0, \
\ln(-x) & \text{if } x < 0.
\end{cases}
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dotdoc

abstract mango
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do you know how to differentiate this function?

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what’s the derivative of ln|x| at x when x < 0?

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@timid jasper

abstract mango
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right, I asked for x<0

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what about x > 0

timid jasper
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Cause ln(-x) if x<0

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So its ln|-x|

abstract mango
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What’s the derivative of ln|x| at x when x> 0?

timid jasper
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[
\ln |x|^{'} =
\begin{cases}
\frac{1}{x} & \text{if } x > 0, \
\frac{-1}{x} & \text{if } x < 0.
\end{cases}
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I tried couldn’t get that

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dotdoc

abstract mango
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done

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timid jasper
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What?

abstract mango
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You should know that derivative is a function that is defined at each point

timid jasper
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That's just the q paper

abstract mango
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better way to write is 1/x if x > 0 and -1/x if x > 0

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1/x or -1/x is hand-wavy

timid jasper
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abstract mango
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this is where we first removed modulus

abstract mango
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look at here too, right side it’s usual ln x and to left it’s flipped

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and the derivative to right should be same as that of lnx which is 1/x

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and to left is that of ln(-x) which is -1/x.

timid jasper
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Why's it removed

abstract mango
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[
\ |x| =
\begin{cases}
\ x & \text{if } x \geq 0, \
\ -x & \text{if } x < 0.
\end{cases}
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what do you think about this?

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dotdoc

timid jasper
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|-2| = 2 right?

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|-2| = -(-2) = 2

timid jasper
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So what's the correct answer

abstract mango
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notice the second piece, if x< 0 it means your x is negative so multiply with a negative to make it pisitive

abstract mango
timid jasper
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If x≠0 it could be either 1/x or -1/x. So is it D?

abstract mango
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please don’t expect me to tell answer is option “X”

timid jasper
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That's not what i see when i look up the solution to this

abstract mango
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What’s the derivative of ln (-x) when x < 0.

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It’s 1/(-x) * (-1) = 1/x

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it should be 1/x everywhere expect 0.

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peak tapir
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Did i miss an important step or am i close

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crude rampart
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oh sorry nvm

peak tapir
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That is the problem

crude rampart
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yeah my apologies, i misread

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hmmm

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alright i apologize, i find myself unable to assist with this question, originally i thought i could.

plain girder
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give me a min

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👍

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Huh

crude cairn
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everything until second last line is technically correct

peak tapir
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Technically?

crude cairn
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but you then factorised the numerator wrongly

in the numerator you have cos^3 A, how did that become a cos^2 A in cos^2 A(1-3sinA)

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same thing, you have sin^3 A in the numerator, how did that become sin^2 A in sin^2 A (1 - 3cosA)

peak tapir
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O

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Oops

plain girder
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I finished

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You are correct every step

plain girder
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that's a key

peak tapir
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Uhh

crude cairn
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also, piece of advice, when you factorise you want to actively try to fish out the thing in the denominator

from second last line, using sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 in the numerator will help

peak tapir
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(A+b)(a^2-ab + b^2)?

plain girder
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yes

plain girder
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all steps is correct but last

crude cairn
peak tapir
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How do u know its not taught in syllabus

crude cairn
plain girder
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wait can't we use a³+b³?

peak tapir
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Did i mess up

plain girder
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not 2sinAcosA

crude cairn
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your a^2 - ab + b^2 shouldnt be

(cos^2 - 2cos sin + sin^2)

plain girder
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it is sinA+cosA

peak tapir
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Ehy

plain girder
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If you know how to factor x³±y³, this becomes easy.

crude cairn
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well it does seem like you are indeed unfamiliar with factoring a^3 ± b^3

peak tapir
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Ye ive never been taught stuff after polynomial and only used it once for a comp like 2 yrs ago

crude cairn
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but even if you struggle with factoring a^3 ± b^3, it is still fairly easy to do with just sin^2 + cos^2 = 1

peak tapir
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Ok

plain girder
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btw, It looks like you’re pressing really hard on the paper.

peak tapir
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Bad habit

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Cant be bothered fixing

plain girder
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:p

crude cairn
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stress :L

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crude cairn
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double asterisk on both sides

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** BOLD **

plain girder
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ty

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thank you

peak tapir
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O

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I wrote

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2sinxcosx

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Instead of sinxcos

crude cairn
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yeah

peak tapir
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Ok i solved

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Thanks guys

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now who closed my help ticket

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split cipher
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Just be giving anyone the helpful role

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ok listen

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I need to remember the range of all six inverse trig ratios

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The domain is easy but the range is confusing me

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…I am affraid that would be you due to a lack of a response in #help-20 when the bot pinged you if your question had beeen resolved. 🙁

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oop

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well it didn’t have my name on it anymore

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cause I can be?

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like

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Should have learned to read before doing trig

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checks out

split cipher
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I need help omg

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good luck catshrug

worthy wren
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so just remember the domain and range of the original 6 trig functions

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split cipher
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I remember using that trick in class but the range was giving me problems

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worthy wren
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yeah f is only invertible if it is one to one and onto. so we define arcsinx on a domain where sinx satisfies both these properties which is why we choose our domain of f(x) = arcsinx from [-1, 1] but then what is the range?
the domain we chose for sinx is [-pi/2, pi/2] so it must be the range of arcsinx!

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u can choose any interval where sinx is one to one but -pi/2 to pi/2 is just convention

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ok

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I’ll try to remember that!

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im really confused on how to solve these symmetrical problems, i cant understand what to do / how to approach

covert lodge
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and im not even able to get f(x)

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it seems like its a constant value being 1

edgy pulsar
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leme try

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ye

covert lodge
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damn cute

edgy pulsar
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we did function q yest too

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try finding g(1-x)

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and then finding f(x) and f(1-x) in terms of g and put it in the equation

covert lodge
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oh

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lemme try

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i get g (1-x) = 1 - f(x)

edgy pulsar
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try again

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find g(1-x) using the equation
g(x) = f(x) -1

covert lodge
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g(1-x) = f(1-x) -1

edgy pulsar
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ye then put f(1-x) and f(x) values in the other eqn

covert lodge
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yep did so

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it gives this

covert lodge
edgy pulsar
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i think then u get
g(x) + g(1-x) = 0

covert lodge
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hmm

edgy pulsar
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are u aware of any formula for symmetry?

covert lodge
covert lodge
edgy pulsar
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what do we want

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to get

edgy pulsar
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equation in terms of just g(x)

covert lodge
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i tried that

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u cant find f(x) or g(x)

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seperately

edgy pulsar
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not exactly g(x)

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like something
g(x) = -g(-x)
Or g(x) = g(-x)

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something like that

covert lodge
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even and odd functions?

edgy pulsar
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i mean u can use that to kind analyze seeing the options

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wht matches or not

covert lodge
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i wanna avoid using options

edgy pulsar
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fine leme try something else

covert lodge
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cuz this could come as a numerical ques

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ye no worries

edgy pulsar
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i know one thing i am not sure if u are aware of not
if there is a function f(a+x) + f(a-x) = 0 then that is symmetrical about a,0

covert lodge
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yea i didnt know abt this

edgy pulsar
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also
odd functions are symmetric about origin and even functions are symmetric about y axis

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always

covert lodge
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i see

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ok noted

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this ques ans is legit about the point 1/2 , 0

edgy pulsar
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i think we need to dive in detail how symmetry works

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u are aware of midpoint formula right?

covert lodge
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yes

edgy pulsar
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so for symmetry , from one point the distance of the graph should be same

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if we talk about symmetry about the point

covert lodge
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oh ok so like

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ok i get it

edgy pulsar
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something like this

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so suppose u are finding symmetry about h,k

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for any graph

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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m trying to derive something @covert lodge i am not sure exactly if its the besy way

covert lodge
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its ok

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ill prolly get it

edgy pulsar
covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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we are assuming that they are symmetrycal and tryin to derive

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so as they are symmetrical about h,k

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their midpoints are h,k

covert lodge
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oh

edgy pulsar
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so x+x*/2 = h and same for y

covert lodge
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ye

tired walrus
edgy pulsar
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like this

covert lodge
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ye i got it

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so the dist is same either side

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as it is symmetric the point shall be the midpoint

edgy pulsar
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yes

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so u get x* = 2h-x and y* = 2k - y

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basically now x* , y*
= (2h-x, 2k-y)

edgy pulsar
covert lodge
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i see

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so in this question we have to prove its converse

edgy pulsar
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so if y = f(x), then y* = f(x*)

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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i think the formula will be easy

covert lodge
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ah

edgy pulsar
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lets see what we get

covert lodge
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aight

edgy pulsar
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y* = f(x*)
=> 2k - f(x) = 2(2h=x)

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on simplifyin

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f(x) + f(2h-x) = 2k

covert lodge
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hmm

edgy pulsar
covert lodge
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now it makes so much sense

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tysm

edgy pulsar
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our equation was
g(x) + g(1-x) = 0
So ya u can compare it and find h,k

covert lodge
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holy hell

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1 sec imma lowk take short notes of this

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i wanna note down its derivation

edgy pulsar
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sure

covert lodge
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so basically if a func is symmetric about some point (h,k) , and function gives (x,x*) and (y,y*)

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it took the * away

edgy pulsar
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np

covert lodge
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so x + x*/2 = h

covert lodge
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i see

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ok

edgy pulsar
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cause a point is both x and y coordinate right ;D

covert lodge
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yea i tried to denote that

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it just made the text wierd instead XD

edgy pulsar
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btw

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u can use the main formula

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to also find out symmetry about straight and horizontal lines

covert lodge
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whats the main formula

edgy pulsar
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like for vertical line

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suppose x = h is the line

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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and u want to check wether ur function f(x) symmetric about x = h or not

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its gonna look something like this

covert lodge
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yep

edgy pulsar
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basically what u can see from here is, y value is same for all

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for all meaning both the symmetrical points

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like f(x) = fx*)

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so u get f(x) = f(2h-x)
We calculated x* before the same way again

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so your condition if f(x) is symmetrical about a line x = h is
f(x) = f(2h-x)

covert lodge
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ohhh

edgy pulsar
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and if its about y axis, then h basically becomes 0

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so it becomes f(x) = f(-x)

covert lodge
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and it becomes even

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😮

edgy pulsar
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remmember i told u before even functions are symmetric about y axis

covert lodge
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yeah

edgy pulsar
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from here it comes ig

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basically u understood the idea about it right

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so if u get any unique q jjust try to derive something

covert lodge
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i first have to try to get it into this from right

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2k = f(x) + f(2h-x)

edgy pulsar
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for symmetry about point yes

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if u get something like f(x) = f(2h-x) then
U know tht its symmetric about the line x = h

covert lodge
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for about a like we input either h or k as 0

edgy pulsar
covert lodge
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to find symmetricity about a line

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we have to put x = 0

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i mean h = 0

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to find for what line k is symmetric

edgy pulsar
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oh no

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u need to think tbh

covert lodge
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k 1sec

edgy pulsar
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this formula is just for verification

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like if its symmetrical about a line x = h ( vertical line)

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the 2 points must have the same y coordinate

edgy pulsar
covert lodge
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yea no worries

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so its y coord it same

edgy pulsar
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yes

covert lodge
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and the distance of the point from that line is also same

edgy pulsar
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y coord of both f(x) and f(x*) is same

covert lodge
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what abt lines with a slope

edgy pulsar
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thats too complex

covert lodge
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i had a ques saying y = -x

edgy pulsar
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y = -x

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thats still easy

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wait a sec

covert lodge
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i asked that ques in this srver

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he told that x,y after reflection becomes -y.-x

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so yea

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i understood that 1

edgy pulsar
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ye

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u can js replace

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for lines

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like y = x +c
Replace x = y-c and y with x+c

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but if ther is a slope m i am not aware

covert lodge
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wait i didnt rlly get

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ohh i see

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for y = -x

edgy pulsar
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ye suppose y = 1/(x-2) + 2

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to check if its symmetric about y = x

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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put y = x and x = y

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so u get

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x = 1/y-2 + 2

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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on simplifyin this

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if u get the orignal eqn

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then u can say it was symmetrical about y = x

covert lodge
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so this holds for any line?

edgy pulsar
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I cant say for surity with slope m
i am aware if slope is 1 or -1

covert lodge
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what abt it haing intersept

edgy pulsar
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y = x + c

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is the line

covert lodge
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ngl my ppl wont ask shi that complex other than 1 or -1

edgy pulsar
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and u have some equation

covert lodge
edgy pulsar
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suppose the line u want to check symmetry about is y = x + c and u have some function alright

covert lodge
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ye

edgy pulsar
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then in that function in places of y put y = x+c
and in places of x put x = y - c

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if u can land up to the orignal function

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then that function is symmetrical about y = x + c

covert lodge
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ye

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then it is symmetric

edgy pulsar
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yes

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all done @covert lodge ?

covert lodge
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i have a related ques

edgy pulsar
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sorry but currently i have to go

covert lodge
edgy pulsar
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u can either post it here

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or dm me

covert lodge
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les keep it all here

edgy pulsar
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will be back in 1-2hr or something

covert lodge
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no worries

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some1 else will help

edgy pulsar
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sure

covert lodge
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tysm for all the help

edgy pulsar
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np

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I think inverse of a function is symmetric about the line x = y

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just use that or something

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alr

covert lodge
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yes it is

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i almost got it

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im getting

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aight got it

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i dont understand that the function even means

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why did they give a comma?

small urchin
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m replaces x and n replaces y

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thus the comma

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no wait hold on

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yes so basically when u put x= 2x+y/8 and y=2x-y/8 in a certain function, you get xy

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so now instead of 2x+y/8 you input m/n and instead of 2x-y/8 you input n/m respectively

covert lodge
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what

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nah ts too complicated

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so if i put

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ok so f(x,y)

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is this it>

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so f(m,n) will give mn

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tysm for the help

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opal plume
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why is f(X) not continous at those points?

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lime crest
willow tiger
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???

lime crest
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oh wait x ∈ (0,1)

hollow iron
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Still

opal plume
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whats floor

willow tiger
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well its clearly discontinous

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plucky rover
opal plume
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oh

plucky rover
willow tiger
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its discontinous when it turns from non-integer to integer

opal plume
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one sec

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let me process T-T

lime crest
willow tiger
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and because the one without the floor is increasing, its discontinous when its an integer

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and x^2 is an integer if its a multiple of 1/3

lime crest
opal plume
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ohhhhhh

stone flint
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my english is bad

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candid pulsar
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i can understand what d/dx (f(g(x))) looks like but i cant make sense of how theres only one point of inflection

candid pulsar
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stupid discord image display ✊

willow tiger
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xD

candid pulsar
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i feel like theres one point of inflection between every root

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old quarry
candid pulsar
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just f''(x) = 0 no?

old quarry
old quarry
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hmm oh wait i kinda see ur point

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maybe they only want inflection points which are stationary

candid pulsar
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i believe so

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theres some more dumb slip ups so im going to believe this is a mistake

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thanks for your time

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Hello! the question is to show that [ \sum_{d | n}\phi(d) = n]

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Copter

lime crest
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i have a feeling that the way i wrote this is too loosely

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from lhs to rhs it should be some expansion stuff but i dont know how to notate that ;-;

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pretty handwriting

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🫩🫩🫩

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<@&286206848099549185>

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xD

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sullen echo
tired walrus
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ok, let's try question 5. do you need help with a, b or both?

sullen echo
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both

tired walrus
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ok

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so, can you write down the inequality that this question wants from you?

sullen echo
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..no

tired walrus
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ok then let's go back one step

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can you write down an expression for how much Marian will spend on the dress and x shirts?

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your expression will have the letter x in it

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@sullen echo can you answer with one of "yes"/"no"/"let me try"

sullen echo
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..idk how to do it. is it €60 - €36 - x??

tired walrus
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you're overthinking it and also i want the expenses and not how much is left anyway

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ok

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let's forget about the dress for now

sullen echo
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okay

tired walrus
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if you buy x shirts, each one for 5 euro, how many euros will you spend? (expression in terms of x)

sullen echo
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12x?

tired walrus
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how did twelve happen

sullen echo
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ughh idkkkk

tired walrus
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would you like to try again

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let me repeat: x shirts, each shirt costs 5 (five) euro; how much do we spend total?

sullen echo
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€60

tired walrus
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we always spend exactly sixty euro no matter how many shirts?

sullen echo
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no

tired walrus
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ok then why are you claiming it with your answer of "60"

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ok let's just forget even more of the problem

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focus on the most basic concept possible

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let's say you go to the same shop as marian and you buy, say... 4 shirts of the same kind. and they still cost you €5 each. you buy just those shirts, nothing else.

tell me now: how much do you spend? and most importantly, be prepared to tell me how you got your answer

sullen echo
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..€20?

tired walrus
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yes, and how did you figure that out? can you explain in words?

sullen echo
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4 shirts x €5 = €20

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so you buy 4 shirts and they each cost €5, so u just multiply the two numbers

tired walrus
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ok, so you multiplied the number of shirts by the price

sullen echo
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yeah

tired walrus
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you need to be specific about it. "the two numbers" isnt really good enough.

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but ok

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to figure out the total cost of a number of shirts, you multiplied the number of shirts by the price

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let us now come back to this:

x shirts, each shirt costs 5 (five) euro; how much do we spend total?

sullen echo
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yeah

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5x?

tired walrus
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there we go

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...i still wonder what could have led you to say "12x" earlier, but whatever, we got that sorted out.

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so marian spends 5x euro on the shirts, and another 36 euro on the dress,

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so what's the expression for her total spending?

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don't try to do anything more than what i ask

sullen echo
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€36 + 5x = €60

tired walrus
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...and you just did try to do more than what i asked.

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also those € symbols will be obstructions in our inequality (not equation). you should not be putting them.

sullen echo
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okay

tired walrus
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marian spends 36 + 5x euro on her clothing.

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now,

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she has a budget of 60 euro.

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that means we will need to fill in the blank here:

36 + 5x ___ 60

with an inequality symbol.

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but before we do that: do you know what the words "inequality symbol" or "inequality sign" refer to? yes or no

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(DO NOT try to do the next step. i am asking you about knowledge.)

tired walrus
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those are two out of four

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there are two others; do you know them?

sullen echo
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yeah its the ones with the lines under them

tired walrus
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do you know what those ones mean, in words?

sullen echo
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yeah, it means that it includes the number. so like 15 > with the line, means that the number could also include 15

tired walrus
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they mean "less than or equal to" and "greater than or equal to" respectively, yes.

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if you can't type them on discord, >= and <= are acceptable substitutes.

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good.

sullen echo
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ohh okay

tired walrus
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now, in this blank:

36 + 5x ___ 60

which symbol should we put, from these four?

< > ≤ ≥

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keeping in mind that on the left we have spending and on the right we have budget.

sullen echo
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hmm is it ≤

tired walrus
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yes

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so our inequality, now that we have carefully constructed it step by step, reads:

36 + 5x ≤ 60

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now, can you solve this inequality carefully and step by step?

sullen echo
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no, i never learned how to solve inequalities

tired walrus
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what about equations

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if we pretend for a moment that it said = instead of would you know what to do

sullen echo
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u have to make it equal to 0?

tired walrus
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm no

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ok

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let me say it more directly

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36 + 5x = 60. solve for x. do you know what to do

sullen echo
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hmm i think u -x from both sides

tired walrus
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i am tempted to just let you execute that step and see what happens

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but actually i'd rather tell you it will leave you with 36 + 4x = 60 - x, which is not very helpful.

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so uh

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youre gonna need to review basic equation solving

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linear equations in one variable too

sullen echo
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mhmm okay

tired walrus
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i dont have a lot of time rn so i cant teach you this from scratch sorry

sullen echo
tired walrus
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blurgh

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ok so like can you attempt solving the equation 36+5x=60 on paper and show me what you get

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-36 both sides is a good first step

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i will then tell you that it works in basically the exact same way for inequalities

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the only difference is that if you were multiplying or dividing both sides by a negative number then the ineq sign flips around\

sullen echo
tired walrus
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ok so you in fact know the basic algebra i was trying to go for

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should i repeat my msg earlier or can you reread and understand it?

tired walrus
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ok

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can you tell me what the solution is for the inequality 36 + 5x ≤ 60 then

sullen echo
tired walrus
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ok wonderful

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x <= 4.8 is correct

sullen echo
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yayy

tired walrus
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now can you show how this would be plotted on a number line

sullen echo
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is this correct?

tired walrus
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the endpoint is correct but your ray goes the wrong way

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x ≤ 4.8 means x is to the LEFT of 4.8

sullen echo
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ohh

tired walrus
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that's better but you should probably stretch it past 0 as well

sullen echo
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ohh okay, so up to the end of the number line

sullen echo
tired walrus
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question 5 took us a full hour and i dont have another hour to spend on q6 sorry 😭

sullen echo
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ohh thats okay, so sorry it took me so long to understand

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<@&286206848099549185> can anyone else help me out with question 6

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alright

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so they have given us the total surface area of the box

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its important to note that we have 4 faces that are rectangles and two faces which are squared

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and ofcourse the total surface area is nothing but the addition of the areas of all the faces

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so it would kinda be like (2x^2)+(4x*4.5)=140

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thats your quadratic

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then take x common and solve

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for which is correct, you will get one value as 0 and then a finite val

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x is obviously not 0 as then its no longer a box

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but a 2 dimensional object

sullen echo
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..i dont get it

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also what does ^ mean?

south geyser
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ah so thats just

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x squared

sullen echo
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ohh okayy

south geyser
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youll get a -ve root which is not possibl

sullen echo
south geyser
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so one face is 4.5 multiplied by x

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since its a rectangle

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and then multiply it by 4 since 4 faces

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so it becomes 18

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into x

sullen echo
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ohh

sullen echo
south geyser
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yup

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try it

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if you dont get it tell me

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il try to do it

sullen echo
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i tried it but i got syntax error

south geyser
sullen echo
south geyser
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but

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one root is -ve and another +v

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so try doing it once without the calc and use the quadratic formula

sullen echo
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my teacher never taught me how to do it without the calc

south geyser
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oh

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um

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wait gimme a min

sullen echo
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okayy

south geyser
south geyser
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which is pretty weird

willow tiger
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,rccw

soft zealotBOT
south geyser
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unless ive done some calculation errors in the beginning

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which i apologize for

sullen echo
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hmm i dont get it sry, never did this

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also what does β mean?

south geyser
sullen echo
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ohh

south geyser
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like how to get the quadratic from the box?

sullen echo
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bro im so cooked for my math exam tmr

south geyser
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whats the portions you have?

sullen echo
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wdym

south geyser
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like

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what topics do you have

sullen echo
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hmm well i have a math mock exam tmr. my teacher sent me a math mock exam from 2024. u can find it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/17K12og6nUZqxKLG8OW5ikLbcybbeiuqB/view. not quite sure what topics are def gonna be on the exam, cus my teacher didnt want to look at the exam, cus she wants it to be a suprise for her too loll. but i think that coordinate geometry, factorising, statistics might be on it. so im just going through the exam and asking yall on discord what i dont understand

south geyser
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yea so it looks pretty balanced

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and the easiest and fast thing which u could learn is geometry and factorising

sullen echo
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yeah, i did coordinate geometry not that long ago in skl, and with my math tutor, so im not quite worried with that. i could go over factorising tho

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also i have a feeling that trigenometry might be on it.

south geyser
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like properties of triangles

sullen echo
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yeah

south geyser
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like from khan academy and other places

sullen echo
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also for q6 (c) how do u know which is correct?

steady stratus
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√361 = 19
So alpha = (-9+19)/2 = 5
beta = (-9-19)/2 = -14

So values of x can be 5 and -14. But x is the length of some of the edges of this cuboid so x can't be negative
Therefore, correct value of x is 5

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we have to find number of points of non-differentiability

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i managed to simplify f(x) into a composite function but i dont get what g(x) does to f(x)

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anyone there?

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Imagine we had f(x) = |x| (not the f we have here but as an example)

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What g does, is look, for some value of x, all the images between x and x+1, and take the biggest one

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If we start looking at x <= -1

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Then x+1 <= 0

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And so f is decreasing on [x,x+1]

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So the max value on that interval has to be on the left

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g(x) = |x| = -x for x <= -1

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Another easy case is x>=0

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Then f is increasing on [x,x+1]

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So the max value on the interval has to be on the right

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g(x) = |x+1| = x+1

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We can then look at other cases, like x = -1/2 for example

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from x to x+1, f is decreasing then increasing

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The max value is either on the left or right bound

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Turns out they're equal

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g(-1/2) = |±1/2| = 1/2

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In the end, after checking every case, g(x) = |x+1/2| + 1/2

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so till x=-1/2, the max is always on the left, after -1/2, max is on the right, that switch is the point of non differentiability for g(x)

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i think i got it

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so for mine, i graph it and move the interval to find where max chnages?

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Excuse the horrible formatting, I didn't write it. I'm very stuck right now, I asked AI and it's insisting the answer is -9.41*10^-192 but according to the homework that's incorrect

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here's the expression not formatted horribly

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Update, I must have typed it wrong or something, All set

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How can I make a camera "system" using math. I'm a programmer and am making my own engine, and I need to gain a somewhat coherent understanding of linear algebra for said camera system. I have no understanding of how to do this and need help

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I have no idea where to start and dont know what to do

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wait

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found an article