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violet echo
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aight

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fr? always thought canada was nice

silent meadow
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It's garbage and boring

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Switzerland is much better I got family there

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But yea anyways back to the question

violet echo
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dayum

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aight give me an second not an big graph writer

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/drawer

silent meadow
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Alr

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Lmk when u got it

violet echo
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aihgt

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rlly doesn't look good

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but

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every 20 seconds it does an "half turn"

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meaning

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it goes either all the way to the top

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or all the way to the bottom

silent meadow
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U gotta be trolling..

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šŸ’€

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unkempt seal
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can someone tell me why this system of equations doesn't work

unkempt seal
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my graphing calculator outputted values

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and wolfram outputted t, x and y expressed in terms of a for some reason

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the first problem should be -a+x=0.5 but same result

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unkempt seal
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cause my graphing calculator somehow got t=0.5, x and y =0, and a=-0.5

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some of the online calculators like symbolab also gave this result

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And see what it results in

unkempt seal
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OH

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oh so it is

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huh that's weird, x and y shouldnt be 0...

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so it's not an unsolvable system of equation?

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i have no idea how to check, i have not learned linear algebra...

shut gazelle
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,w Solve[{-a+x=5,t+y=0.146,-7t-0.4645a=-0.7954,13.4641t-10.4645x+20.4635y=1.96},{a,t,x,y}]

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Idk if I typed it in correctly @unkempt seal

unkempt seal
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weird, last time wolfram expressed x and t in terms of a

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alright thanks so it's solvable

shut gazelle
unkempt seal
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oh i need to tell wolfram that too?

shut gazelle
unkempt seal
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alright thanks

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i feel like i shouldnt be getting x and y to be 0 but if it's determinate then i guess i cant argue with that

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woven estuary
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[X'(t) = \begin{pmatrix}
2 & 4 \ 1 & -1
\end{pmatrix}X(t) + \begin{pmatrix}
1 \ 0
\end{pmatrix}e^{-t} + \begin{pmatrix}
0 \ 1
\end{pmatrix}t]

[X(0) = \begin{pmatrix}
0 \ 0
\end{pmatrix}]

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syecko

woven estuary
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[\mathcal{L}{x'} = \mathcal{L}{2x + 4y + e^{-t}}]
[\mathcal{L}{y'} = \mathcal{L}{x - y + t}]

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syecko

woven estuary
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[\implies sX(s) = 2X(s) + 4Y(s) + \frac{1}{s+1}]

[sY(s) = X(s) - Y(s) + \frac{1}{s^2}]

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syecko

woven estuary
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from here i take it i will need to solve this system and use partial fraction decomposition

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$X = \frac{4Y + \frac{1}{s+1}}{s-2}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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and

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$Y = \frac{X + \frac{1}{s^2}}{s+1}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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so then substituting gives

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$Y = \frac{\frac{4Y + \frac{1}{s+1}}{s-2} + \frac{1}{s^2}}{s+1}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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common denominator up top

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$Y = \frac{\frac{4Ys^2 + \frac{s^2}{s+1} + s -2}{(s-2)s^2}}{s+1}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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$Y = \frac{4Ys^2 + \frac{s^2}{s+1} + s -2}{(s-2)(s^2)(s+1)}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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fuck i shouldve separated Y first

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$(s+1)Y = \frac{4Y}{s-2} + \frac{1}{(s+1)(s-2)} + \frac{1}{s^2}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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$(s+1 - \frac{4}{s-2})Y = \frac{1}{(s+1)(s-2)} + \frac{1}{s^2}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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$\frac{(s-3)(s+2)}{s-2}Y = \frac{s^2 + (s+1)(s-2)}{(s+1)(s-2)(s^2)}$

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syecko

woven estuary
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cancel 1/s-2

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$(s-3)(s+2)Y = \frac{s^2 +(s+1)(s-2)}{(s+1)(s^2)}$

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syecko

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fallen crest
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When I plug -1^2/3 into calculator it gives not a number, how did my teacher get its positive?

fallen crest
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Why would it be 2 not 2/3?

thorny fox
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helloo

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how do i solve this type of questions?

upbeat magnet
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so it's a positive number = 1

fallen crest
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It that makes sense, still weird that the calculator gives error

upbeat magnet
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(-1)^(2/3)

fallen crest
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I did

upbeat magnet
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what calculator are you using?

fallen crest
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Even did 2/3 separately

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upbeat magnet
upbeat magnet
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yeah the google calculator says undefined

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but it's defined 😭

fallen crest
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upbeat magnet
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but ig you can do

fallen crest
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Not allowed

upbeat magnet
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(-1)^2 and then answer^(1/3)

upbeat magnet
fallen crest
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I was just checking my work and got the error

upbeat magnet
fallen crest
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Yeah true

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Thanks for the help

upbeat magnet
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np

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mortal berry
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$V=-\nabla W$

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Bob Pancakebutter

mortal berry
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What this means

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I mean the $\nabla$

soft zealotBOT
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Bob Pancakebutter

mortal berry
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I know they are the partial derivatives of W

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but if V is a vector in 3 dimensions, should I write that it is equal to $V=-dW/dx -dW/dy -dW/dz?$

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Bob Pancakebutter

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Yes

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dry tide
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Would someone be able to check this if it’s right

dry tide
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Much appreciated

cursive bough
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looks correct to me

dry tide
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thanks

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plush merlin
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question 12 last part the one asking to prove that l is irrational

plush merlin
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i tried reaching a contradiction using archimedean property using the fact that {u_n} converges to l but i didnt reach anything

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plush merlin
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i cant use any series rn

verbal pendant
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ah alright

plush merlin
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taking real analysis and didnt reach this topic yet

plush merlin
verbal pendant
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tryna think of stuff

plush merlin
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tysm take your time

verbal pendant
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haven’t done much real analysis so my ideas don’t really seem useful past that

plush merlin
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i am trying too

plush merlin
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i mean i am also trying stuff that are not working too

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i got something but i am not sure if it works or no

verbal pendant
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found an interesting proof on wikipedia as well if you want

plush merlin
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ahh nvm after writing for a long time I reached a place where I found it wrong XD

verbal pendant
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rip

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copper roost
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when you derive (3-5x)e^-x
does the whole term turn negative because of the (-1)

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copper roost
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i dont understand what gets -

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come on tenshi dont leave me bro

abstract bramble
copper roost
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oh

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yeah right

abstract bramble
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it's (3 **-**5x)

copper roost
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yeah

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but the -1 what does it do again

abstract bramble
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the -1 only applies to the 2nd term with (3 - 5x) * e^-x

copper roost
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you just get (-8-5x)?

abstract bramble
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wuh

copper roost
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urban field
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What

warm ether
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What

urban field
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What as in

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Idk what I’m looking at

warm ether
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what do you want me to say to that, i dont know what troubles you

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its a triangle

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gotta give me more to work with

urban field
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Oh you’re helping me out?

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Alrighty then

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Uh

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Yeah everything in that picture is what I see and what I know

warm ether
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id normally say go use soh cah toa
but the ratio is there for you to use, so you just need to think what x is in this case

urban field
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Mb my notifications are tripping

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I have 0 clue what to do with the ratio

warm ether
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which of the 3 parts of the ratio do you think the hypotenuse is?

urban field
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My educated guess would be the corners of the triangle

warm ether
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eh?

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which is largest for positive x
x, xsqrt3 or 2x

urban field
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Sqrt is square root?

warm ether
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yeah

urban field
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Probably 2x

warm ether
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probably?

urban field
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No?

warm ether
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be more confident

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yes

lethal mica
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either way the value of the hypotenuse is already given, no need to find it again

warm ether
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well, yeah i know that, but its how we find x

urban field
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So 2x is the hypotenuse

warm ether
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yup, so what must x be

urban field
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10

warm ether
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you now have everything you need

urban field
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Huh

warm ether
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well you know x is 10
so the sides are 10, 10sqrt 3 and 20

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from the ratio

copper abyss
urban field
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Oh that easy huh

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Alright for this one

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Can you correct me when I’m wrong

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So

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Oh nvm that wasn’t really a question

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The this one

knotty night
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Side A to C is already given

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For everything else, just use SOH CAH TOA

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Or SIne law

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Whichever you like nmore

urban field
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Idk what sine law or so ca toa is

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That’s trig right

knotty night
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Soh Cah Toa are trig ratios used to help find missing sides or angles of a triangle. You would need to use one of the 45 degree angles, and label the side opposit from it as opposite. Side below it as Adjaced. The Hypothenus as Hpyothenus. Then, you look at what sides you need to find. For example, you're missing X. You could do tan45 = x over 9sqrt2. Then, rearrange to solve for X.

urban field
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I learn that soon but I haven’t yet

knotty night
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I kinda dumped it

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that's the main idea

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You substitute the the corresponding sides and angles of the triangle to find the missing values

copper abyss
# urban field

the first 3 questions are asking you for the labels of the 2 sides (AC and AB) and the Hypotenuse

You just need to look at the diagram given and determine which is which šŸ‘šŸ¼

An example is 9 square root of 2.
9 square root of 2 is side AC , as labelled in the diagram

urban field
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Ive filled that out

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Now I’m

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On the second Side AB and hypo CB

knotty night
urban field
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Nope

knotty night
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By the way, if you don't know what you're doing, you could watch tutorials or go to https://www.jensenmath.ca/

urban field
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Haven’t learned jack about trig yet

knotty night
# urban field Nope

SinĪø = Opposite / Hypotenuse
CosĪø = Adjacent / Hypotenuse
TanĪø = Opposite / Adjacent

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I don't suggest tackling the question without understanding it first

urban field
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How’s that help me

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With

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Wait

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Opposite and adjacent

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To what

knotty night
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to the angle

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to theta

urban field
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It looks like they’re the same distance to me

knotty night
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Or, you could just always figure out everything knowing some sides are the same

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b and X should be the same

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Can find Y with Pythagorean theorem too

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I don't know. I prefer some methods over others

urban field
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I genuinely like

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I’m sorry but I haven’t been able to gather anything yet

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At all

urban field
# urban field

From the start of the chatroom besides maybe this question

copper abyss
# urban field

@urban field hello! I recorded a math video tutorial (with explanations) for this question

I can send it to you thru dms if you want šŸ‘šŸ¼

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dusky dock
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mate you have to use dif channe;

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channel

jagged flare
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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
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jagged flare
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that works for finding the first equation, using that what dis you get?

dusky dock
jagged flare
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soo your saying the red angles and yellow angles are equal?

dusky dock
jagged flare
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why do you think so? how do you arrive to that?

dusky dock
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bc alt int angles

jagged flare
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what does alt int say?

dusky dock
# jagged flare what does alt int say?

Alternate interior angles are formed when a transversal intersects two parallel or non-parallel lines they are located on the inner side of the lines but on the opposite sides of the transversal. If the alternate interior angles are equal, the two lines intersected by the transversal are parallel to each othe

jagged flare
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a transversal is a single line correct?

dusky dock
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yea

jagged flare
dusky dock
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yea

jagged flare
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so can we still use alternate interior angles?

dusky dock
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yeah

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3y+2=6x-10

jagged flare
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yes

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for for the other equation, any ideas?

dusky dock
jagged flare
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heres a lil hint: what angles have you not used yet?

dusky dock
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corresponding and consecutive

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r 6y+4 and 4x+8 conse

jagged flare
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yeah

dusky dock
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alr i got the answers Thhanks

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given a joint cdf F(x,y) can i find the joint pdf by finding $\frac{\partial F^2}{\partial y \partial x}$

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frosty cargo
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why is the ans this

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opal osprey
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It's a theoretical question

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You do know how to define an inverse right

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Inverses only exist for bijective functions

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And for sin and cos to be bijections...

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We have to define a certain domain and codomain

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I hope this clears your doubt

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You can dm me or ping me here if it doesn't

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untold kiln
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Is my formulation of the general case correct?

prime oriole
untold kiln
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n is the dimension. ie, 2d vs 3d

prime oriole
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yup, then it should be valid. but why are you trying to generalise it wont n just take 3 values ie 1,2 and 3?

untold kiln
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Maybe said like this:

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I'm trying to get confortable with notation; trying to formulate my own generalities.

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thanks for confirming

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tranquil pine
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help me out

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tranquil pine
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permutation thing

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stable dew
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How do you do this

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# stable dew

Please show the original problem, exactly as it was stated to you, with the entire original context. A picture or screenshot is best. If the original problem is not in English, then post it anyway! The additional context might still be helpful. Do your best to provide a translation.

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Teacher wrote this on the white board and left

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Said solve it I will tell ans in next class

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Solve what?

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It's not an equation

stable dew
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I have no idea either

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The teacher just wrote this

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I check with friends

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Checked

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stable dew
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It could be a simplification task, but there isn't much to simplify actually

stable dew
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No

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This is probably the best form you can write that

stable dew
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Dam

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I gonna just ask teacher tmmr then

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Can someone help me find the inverse for this equation

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I don’t think I did it right

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Put $y=f(x)$ and solve for x. You'll get $x = f^{-1}(y)$, so you know what $f^{-1}(x)$ is

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this derivative does not tell me if fx has any points it crosses 0 at, right?

potent seal
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since the maxima and minima can just all be positive/negative, correct?

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what???

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0

rare girder
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yeahh

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that was what I was thinking

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was just making sure

rare girder
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I guess there could be something said like, "if there is a root here, then there must be a root here and here (gesturing to other points)"

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based on the shape of f I suppose

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or antiderivatives for f' rather

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however, if the highest power of x is even in f'
then it has to have a 0
bc the highest power of x in f will be odd

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oc I'm only talking about polynomials here

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yeah that's fair

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f' is of odd degree, so f is of even degree, so it could have no roots

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this is a polynomial

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on your thing f' have an odd degree
so my statement doesn't apply

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i see

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because like

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if f' is x^3

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then f is like 1/4x^4

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right?

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and an odd degree means it like is symmetrical in opposite sides so it has to touch zero?

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im not exactly sure why a odd degree means it has to cross zero

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oh wait nvm

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I get it

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yep

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global behaviour

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yea so this also poses another condition, that f has to be defined in all of R

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Can sum1 tell me the answer to the first question and if you got time please could you tell me the answers on the whole paper?

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I need help with this limit pleasee

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!show

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Well I thought you could always use l'hopital's rule like whenever but I don't think you can 😭

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there are times where it fails

proper grail
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oh f'(x)/g'(x) = 0/0 here but you can take l'hopital of that again until its out of indeterminate form

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So it'll be likeee

proper grail
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And I can plug in the 2- and get - infinity rightt?

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Could we go over some other methods though

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Because you can't always use that rule

ornate spade
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yes but l'hopital is kind of unnecessary in this question

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factorize numerator

proper grail
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Okayy

atomic moon
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You can also say that 2x-4 is negative when you come from the left values of 2 so it will be a 0- and so 3x² is strict positive

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I don't really know any method because it's usually simpler to do

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Likeeee

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Wait a second

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Oh wait

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There's another little

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It's

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I can use thatt ohh yess

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Thank youuu

proper grail
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last term of second factor is wrong

hybrid heath
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But isn't y = 2 here?

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I meant this one

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y³ = 8 so

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Oh it'll be like

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2^2 so 4

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Okay then we haveee

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We could plug in the x here too right

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12/0- is - infinity

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Soo.

Question

Probelms are these :
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Problem 1
(1) Obtain a kinematic equation for Position rd​ with respect to Position rb​.
(2) Obtain a kinematic equation for Position rd​ with respect to Position ra​.
(3) Let vb​ and vd​ be a time derivative rb​ and rd​ (linear velocity of Point B and Point D ), respectively, and assume vb​=0. Then, derive a velocity-level kinematic equation for vd​.
(4) Obtain a Jacobian matrix from the above equation.
Problem 2
Assume that thare is no external force or moment on the system.
(1) Derive the linear and angular momentum conservation equations for this system.
(2) Derive the equation of motion for this system using Ļ„1​,Ļ„2​,Īø1​¨​ and ĪøĀØ2​.
Nomenclatures
Point O: Origine of the inertia coordinate frame
Point A: Mass center of Link 0
Point B: Joint 1
Point C : Joint 2
Point D: Endpoint of the manipulator arm
ra​=[xa​ya​​] : Position vector from O to A
rb​=[xb​yb​​]: Position vector from O to B
rd​=[xd​yd​​]: Position vector from O to D

MY QUESTION now is .

For problem 1 - questions 3 and 4. for the l1 part. is it theta 0 + theta 1 or just theta 1 ? I understand that vb = 0 therefore manipulator is not moving. but does that mean that now we assume it is like a ground base manipulator and point B is the origin now ( even if its joint moves ) and therefore only theta 1 and 2 matter now ?

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<@&286206848099549185> please šŸ˜„ I need this to then solve problem 2 haha

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What kind of math is that?

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Something geometrik?

flint solstice
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prof called it linear algebra calculations of robotics xD

spiral patrol
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Wow

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Are you a licence student?

flint solstice
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license ?

spiral patrol
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Undergraduate*

flint solstice
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Master's student. but very very bad a math. and very very good at other things haha

spiral patrol
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So you going to be doc huh? šŸ™‚

spiral patrol
flint solstice
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hahaha do you know how to help me tho ? x)

spiral patrol
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I wish i can 😦

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I really dont know about linear algebra . Excuse that i cant help

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hahahah I'm good with hands on stuff. I guess I'm good a intuitively visualising what other need maths for understanding. and that is why I'm bad a exercizing math. because I usually don't need it so exercise it less.

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no help tho ? 😦

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<@&286206848099549185>

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@flint solstice, maybe you can try in #linear-algebra, but your question has a high chance of getting buried in there. While we have some talented lin-alg folks, I think yours is the first robotics question I've seen. I don't want to clog this channel with endless questions to try to understand what is going on here. (But perhaps that would be best since no one has come to help yet)

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Hello i need some help understanding this kind of second order EDOs
i know how to do sums but not products, any help to guide me?

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have you tried anything ? @bronze mica

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well, my initial thought was finding 2 particular solutions then mulplaing them together to finally add it to the homo solution, but i have tried and i got stuck on the y=A e to the x

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you just need 1 particular solution

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i have tried
tried what ? what kind of method are you planning to use for the particular solution ?

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@bronze mica

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we only learnt indeterminate coefficients, i dont know if thats the name in english tho

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yeah

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so you tried y=Ae^x

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where did that get you ?

bronze mica
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3Ae^x=3xe^x

candid hull
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yeah there's no constant A that fits here you're right

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well ok that guess didn't work

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it's time to guess better then

bronze mica
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this is the answer given buy i haven no idea how they get there

candid hull
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what about y=B x e^x, something that looks a bit more like the right hand side

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yeah I mean indeterminate coefficients is just glorified guessing

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you gotta try multiple times sometimes

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& when it doesn't work you update a bit your guess

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not luck on this one too i beliebe

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believe*

candid hull
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yeah you're left with some e^x you can't cancel probably

bronze mica
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yeah 3B e to ex

candid hull
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well let's try and add also some e^x in our guess to counter that

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which is essentially what the answer did

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y = Axe^x + Be^x

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this should work out fine if we are to believe the answer

bronze mica
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oh i didnt know that trick, i only multplied x to get them to be independant

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didnt know you can add too

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lets see

candid hull
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yup it's mostly a matter of experience, not a nice systematic way of solving that's the main drawback

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but it's super fast if you can guess well

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big IF there

bronze mica
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well i didnt get the answer
A=3 and B=-3 is that right?

candid hull
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there's not one unique answer

bronze mica
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wdym isnt this part of the general solution?

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like the homo solution + this solution = GS?

candid hull
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yeah

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so what

bronze mica
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so, y=C1 +C2 e^(-2x)+3xe^x-3e^x ?

candid hull
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I haven't checked your answer yet tho

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it was just a warning that even if your answer didn't match the answer key, it still might be correct

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yeah with that guess I get what the answer key has

bronze mica
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oops

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i add one term wrong

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1 secc

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now its even worse lmao

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my math ain mathing

candid hull
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show your non-mathing math then

bronze mica
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1 sec fixing it

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yesss i got it

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damn man this is hard too see

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got A=1 and B=-4/3

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and they match with the answer

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now i know you can add em up, thanks

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can someone explain the idea behind adding the "negative" frequencies to the sum of the fourier transform to cancel out the imaginary terms?

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I get that it works but I dont know what a negative frequency is supposed to be and how this doesn't alter the actual fourier transform

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Idk how to find k

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how do i prove this is bounded and monoteric ( im doing calculus in a different language not sure these are the terms)

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First, determine if the sequence would be monotonic increasing or decreasing

frozen rain
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This is what Ive done so far not sure how to continue

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im saying that a2 is > than a1 so an+1 - an has to be larger than 0 and then ive got to a polinomic equation of x^2

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Everything in brackets is a number?

For example

(7*1) is a singular number?

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ok so like i have a test tomorrow. in algebra 2 and i have no idea how to do this shit

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its like quadratic equations or something but idk what fr

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my friend gave me the asnwers to this but i have 0 clue how he did it

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had to get a couple wrong cus ik how to cheat properly

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idk how to make the image clearer… :(

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can you like, do one at a time please

exotic cape
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i just need help in general

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like idk how to do it

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exotic cape
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16 for now ig?

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im gonna fail this test…

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my dad’s gonna beat my ass and take my ps4

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how am i gonna grind camos 😢

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the dude ho gave me the answers is in lik college

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ā€i did it with a special method i learned from many teachers and professors over the yearsā€

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so he cant explain how he did it

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A parabola refers to an equation of a curve, such that a point on the curve is equidistant from a fixed point and a fixed line. Its general equation is of the form y^2 = 4ax (if it opens left/right) or of the form x^2 = 4ay (if it opens up/down)

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I suspect you should take a general quadratic ax^2+bx+c=0; and check those points to be on the graph, although it's probably not enough.

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😭😭😭

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a, b, c are numbers

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if you want to solve the exercise...

exotic cape
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the vertex of a

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and then im lost

exotic cape
tulip gyro
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numbers; numbers we don't yet know.

exotic cape
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i see numbers and signs and letters

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no abc

tulip gyro
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the curve, the blue curved line, is the graph of a quadratic

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that is, an equation looking like ax^2+bx+c.

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where, a, b, and c are numbers.

exotic cape
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the rest is confusing

tulip gyro
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a point (x, y) is on the graph of the quadratic (the blue line), if ax^2+bx+c=y..

exotic cape
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=what tho

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oh

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so now what

tulip gyro
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looks like in both exercises, 15 and 16, you have a special point (the vertex), and an arbitrary (random) point.

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these 2 points need to fill the equation too.

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that is, for 15, points (1, 86) and (3, 150) need to be on the graph.

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which one of these is the vertex?

exotic cape
tulip gyro
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what's a vertex?

exotic cape
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erm

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ite like 2 numbers

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you gotta do like the opposite to find it

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or some shit

tulip gyro
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I don't think I am skilled enough to help; sorry.

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NOOOOO

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PLEASEEEEE

exotic cape
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the other dude gave up on me before it even started

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im too dum šŸ˜ž

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guys need help with anything?

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How would I be able to do this?

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similar triangles will be helpful

raven spruce
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would I set up the equation as ST=RU+16 ?

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Sure

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and then how are ST and RU related

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(using similar triangles)

raven spruce
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I mean one is half of the other?

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I think

languid yoke
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right

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You can say ST = 2 * RU

raven spruce
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alright what would I do next?

upper prism
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^

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ST = 2*RU
ST = RU + 16

upper prism
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yep

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and then solve it how you like, substitution, elimination, gaussian row reduction...

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lol

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😭

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v=(vāˆ’16)+16 ???

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ST = RU + RU
ST = RU + 16

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As they both equal ST, you can say they are both equal

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so

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RU + RU = RU + 16

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so if we subtract RU from both sides we get RU = 16

raven spruce
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would v be 32?

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not sure if I did it right

somber belfry
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ST = RU + RU so ST = 32

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ST - RU = 16 so v = 16

raven spruce
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it was 32

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v was 32

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thanks for your help anyways

somber belfry
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Oh i'm sorry lol i read the instruction wrong 😭

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i thought difference between st and ru was v

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no worries I got it dude

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but should that red part of the circle be integrated from 0 to π/2 or from π to 3π/2?

mortal berry
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In d$\theta$

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Bob Pancakebutter

mortal berry
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If I set the origin O(0,0) as reference

golden slate
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It depends how your integral is parametrised, but the typical convention is that theta=0 corresponds to the point (1,0) and theta increasing corresponds to going anticlockwise around the unit circle

mortal berry
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I didn't parameterize anything

golden slate
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What is the context of the question? Do you have a specific integral?

mortal berry
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Do you know the electrostatic field?

golden slate
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I suppose, but not precisely

mortal berry
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I did 0 to π/2 but I don't know if that's right

frank ginkgo
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rotate the pic

mortal berry
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golden slate
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What I was referring to before is that the function you are integrating along that quarter circle will depend on the angle theta. It may in this case be irrelevant as everything looks radially symmetric, in which case either of your two options would result in the same answer

mortal berry
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But is -π/4 π/4 also okay?

golden slate
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This is something you can try and check. Notice that there is nothing inside your d theta integral. Try changing the limits

mortal berry
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In theory the cosine varies with theta in the first quadrant, while d\theta is in the third quadrant

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Because a sector of a circle is L=theta Ɨ radius, so dL=dthetaƗradius

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One thing varies in the first quadrant, while another in the third

golden slate
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I'm not sure I'm following, when we introduce theta we will probably have to choose where theta = 0, right?

mortal berry
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Isn't it at (1.0)?

golden slate
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Yes that is the usual convention, in which case the integral would be from pi to 3*pi/2. Does it make sense why this would be reasonable to assume?

mortal berry
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Yes

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But cos(theta) doesn't vary with the thetas of the first quadrant?

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Is it always okay to do π to 3π/2?

golden slate
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No, I believe you should be doing pi to 3pi/2. The actual function cos(theta) is not what is important when integrating, it is the actual values theta is taking that you should be focusing on. In this case if we are saying theta = 0 corresponds to (1,0), then what I have said are the correct limits of integration for that reason

mortal berry
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Yes, but if I set theta=0 for example π, wouldn't the value of the integral change then?

golden slate
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Yes, but then cos(theta) would become cos(theta+pi). This is what I mean about it depending on the parametrisation

mortal berry
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So the result Is -$k\lambda/R$?

soft zealotBOT
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Bob Pancakebutter

golden slate
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I haven't done the integral, but if your theta integral evaluates to -1 then I suppose this is the answer yes

mortal berry
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But if I go from -π/4 to π/4 it comes out different

golden slate
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Yeah, so this is saying that it really depends where our theta = 0 is. I am not familiar with the actual maths you are doing as a disclaimer, but there should be some standard "convention" if you will for doing these calculations

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gentle zephyr
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,, \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin(x) = \lim_{y + \pi \to \infty} \sin(y + \pi) = \lim_{y \to \infty} (-\sin(y)) = -\lim_{y \to \infty} \sin(y)

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938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71

gentle zephyr
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can someone explain what happened here

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blissful meadow
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Substitution for x = y + pi, both go to infinity.
Then sin(y + pi) = -sin(y) is a property of sin.

gentle zephyr
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I understand the change of variable now if x approahces infinity x = y + pi aswell

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but im confused with the sum of sine step

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wdym property of sin}

blissful meadow
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sin(x+pi) is a sine wave shifted half a period to the left, so that's equivalent to it starting on the bottom half of the unit circle.

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The addition formulas work too. a = y and b = pi in the first equation yields -sin(x)

gentle zephyr
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wait but sin(x) function never ends

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why does it changes of sign if we shift it half a period to the left

blissful meadow
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Whether it ends or not has little to do with it

tranquil pine
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use the addition formula

blissful meadow
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You can also convince yourself that x+pi and -x represent the same angle.

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And then sin(-x) = -sin(x) since it's odd

gentle zephyr
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looks like dna

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red is sin(x) blue is sin(x +pi)

tranquil pine
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yes it's shifted half a period

gentle zephyr
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how so?

tranquil pine
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the roots also shift

gentle zephyr
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roots being [-1, 1]?

tranquil pine
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The root of sin is at kπ

blissful meadow
tranquil pine
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and then they will overlap

gentle zephyr
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yes, can the same be said with sin(x+pi) = sin(x-pi)

tranquil pine
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yeah

gentle zephyr
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k being a integer right?

tranquil pine
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yes

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The extrema also shift by π

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Look at the maximum

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it's no longer at π/2

gentle zephyr
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wdym extrema, absolute maxima, absolute minima?

tranquil pine
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yes maxima

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and minima

gentle zephyr
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pi/2 for sin(x)

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-pi/2 for sin(x+pi)

tranquil pine
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yes or 3/2Ļ€ in [0,2Ļ€]

gentle zephyr
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3/2pi is the minima

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wdym

tranquil pine
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not for sin(x+Ļ€)

gentle zephyr
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yeah

tranquil pine
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regardless it's -Ļ€k/2

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so did you understand that step?

gentle zephyr
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I dont think I understand

tranquil pine
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use the addition formula then

gentle zephyr
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oh you talking about sin(y+pi) = -sin(y)

tranquil pine
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yeah

gentle zephyr
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yeah I see it now, but I was worrying about the maxima and minima

tranquil pine
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don't worry about that it was just an observation

gentle zephyr
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okay thanks for everything guys

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jagged flare
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let there be $a_1<a_2<a_3<\dots<a_{2023}$ such that $a_1+a_2+a_3+\dots+a_{2023}=1234^{5678}$, find
$$a_1^9+a_2^9+\dots+a_{2023}^9 \mod 15$$

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Skissue ping4response

jagged flare
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i dont have any ideas for this

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actually.. nvm a^9 mod 15=a

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so 1234^5678 mod 15=4^5678=16^2839=1

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young bobcat
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um your reasoning seems right

jagged flare
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wait is there an easy way to prove a^9 mod 15=a cause i used a calculator

young bobcat
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do you know euler's totient?

jagged flare
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no

young bobcat
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ok so euler's totient is the number of integers from 1 to n which are relatively prime to n

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so, the totient of 15 is 8, as 1,2,4,5,7,8,11,13,14 are all relatively prime to 15

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and Euler's Theorem

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states that if you raise any number to the totient of n, you will get something 1 modulo n

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so this means, that whenever a isn't 0, then a^8=1(mod 15)

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Therefore, a^9=a(mod 15)

jagged flare
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oooo

young bobcat
jagged flare
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proven lion
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I got -1tan(b)^-2*sec^2(b), but calculators are saying that this isn't equivalent to the derivative of tan^-1. We're supposed to be using chain rule. What did I do wrong? 🧐

rocky tusk
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$\tan^{-1} x \neq (\tan x)^{-1}$

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rocky tusk
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tan^-1 means the inverse function of tan

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arctan

proven lion
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a h. Yeah Ig that wouldn't work, huh. I got mixed up around here I think xD

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how would I apply the chain rule here then?

rocky tusk
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this isn’t the same question

proven lion
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no I know, that's the example where I got mixed up

rocky tusk
proven lion
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I transferred it over wrong

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OH

rocky tusk
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do you know what an inverse function is

proven lion
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yah

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it's been a bit tho xD

rocky tusk
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its best to write arctan(x) to not get confused

proven lion
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fair. Might hafta redo 5 then, woops

rocky tusk
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no

proven lion
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Oh

rocky tusk
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lol

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i know

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$\sin^4 x = (\sin x)^4$

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proven lion
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... ah

rocky tusk
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it’s strange i know

proven lion
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welp xD

rocky tusk
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just only use it for positive integers

proven lion
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wait so how DO I do chain rule w/ arcsine then?

proven lion
rocky tusk
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you use a nice trick

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so

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we have $y = \arctan x$

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can you solve for beta

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for simplicity let’s just use y and x actually so i don’t have to write out beta and P

proven lion
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honestly so fair

soft zealotBOT
rocky tusk
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solve for x in terms of y

proven lion
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uuuuh blobsweat

rocky tusk
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use inverse function properties

proven lion
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ew, I shall attempt

rocky tusk
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do you know what it means for a function to be an inverse of another

hidden pasture
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$y = \tan^{-1} x$ might be easier to show it as??

soft zealotBOT
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TH_0214

rocky tusk
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what

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brother

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read the chat

proven lion
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šŸ˜…

rocky tusk
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they got confused earlier and thought it meant (tan x)^-1

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that notation is garbage

proven lion
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in my defense, I knew arcsine was in there somewhere xD

hidden pasture
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oh lol sryyyyy

proven lion
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I used to know it better but T~T

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I left precalc and then immediately forgot everything from those two terms lmao

rocky tusk
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proven lion
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oooh I've done this before, kinda

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I need to stop doing all my calc last minute cause I am so lightheaded, I'm sorry :')

rocky tusk
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with that in mind, what is $\tan(\arctan x)$

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proven lion
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oknowI'mdoubting

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uH

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my brain is processing like nothing suddenly I'm so sorry, lemme stare at this xD

rocky tusk
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isn’t arctan by definition the inverse of tan?

proven lion
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si

rocky tusk
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what is this

proven lion
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am I dealing with the inside or outside rn :')

rocky tusk
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maybe i should give you another example

rocky tusk
proven lion
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that'dbenice

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I thrive off of those

rocky tusk
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are you aware that sqrt(x) is the inverse of x^2

proven lion
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yeh :D

rocky tusk
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so what’s (sqrt(x))^2

proven lion
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just x

rocky tusk
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and btw for all of these we are just ignoring any domain restrictions because it’s besides the point i’m trying to make

proven lion
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ye that'

rocky tusk
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what’s sqrt(x^2)

proven lion
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that's* fine :)

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I'm guessing not x

rocky tusk
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why?

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i mean technically it’s |x| but let’s pretend we only care about x>0

proven lion
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not- entirely sure. Like if I wanted to get rid of the sqrt I'd do x^(2/2) but that is just x so like. Aaaaa? T~T

rocky tusk
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what’s the sqrt of 3^2

proven lion
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3

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waitno

rocky tusk
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what

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wdym wait no

proven lion
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@~@ I'm really dizzy lmao

rocky tusk
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😭

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are you ok

proven lion
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I take it back, yes xD

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lmaooo no

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look at this omg

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I have all of this AND

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all of this

rocky tusk
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this looks like fun

proven lion
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that I need to finish tonight

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and it's 6pm

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sobbing

rocky tusk
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why so much homework

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😭😭

proven lion
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I MCFUDGED UP OK

rocky tusk
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how much time did you have for this

proven lion
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I PROCRASTINATEDDDDD T~T

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welllll

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the textbook work is just due on the day of the final so like

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whenever you know all the material Ig

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the oldest thing would be lab 6, so probs like 5 weeks :')

rocky tusk
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ok then you just made a mistake

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lesson learned ig

proven lion
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I made a continuous lapse in judgment sob

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let's hope

rocky tusk
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anyways

proven lion
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anywho's

rocky tusk
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as i was saying

rocky tusk
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$\tan(\arctan x) = x$

soft zealotBOT
rocky tusk
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inverse functions undo each other so to speak

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you can think of arctan as the function which takes in a ratio and tells you the angle such that the tan of that angle is the ratio

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$\arctan(\tan x) = x$

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proven lion
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and is that the outter formula ?

rocky tusk
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so we will use this fact

proven lion
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outer*

rocky tusk
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we had $y = \arctan x$

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rocky tusk
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so by definition $\tan y = x$

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proven lion
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ok, I can work w/ that šŸ¤”

rocky tusk
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so what happens if we differentiate both sides

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you know the derivative of tan yes

proven lion
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yah

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sec^2

rocky tusk
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so can you differentiate both sides

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be careful

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it’s tan y not tan x

proven lion
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sec^2(y) ???

rocky tusk
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close

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so because we’re differentiating with respect to x, the derivative of y with respect to x is not just 1, it’s dy/dx so we need to multiply by dy/dx

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have you ever heard of implicit differentiation

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or just chain rule is fine

proven lion
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sadly yes, but I don't think we're supposed to use it here since that technically comes next

rocky tusk
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it’s the same thing

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as just chain rule here really

proven lion
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ah

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that does not bode well for lab 8 lmao

rocky tusk
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so instead we get

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$\sec^2 y \frac{dy}{dx} = 1$