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serene rain
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and it has parabolas and stuff

stone wagon
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C is the easiest to find: plug in x=0

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the value you get for y is C

serene rain
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alr lemme try solving these rq

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alr so

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remove the x^2 and 3x as they both end up to 0

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and y = -4

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so C

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(0,-4)

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now what if i rearrange the equation for x

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since i know the value of Y

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x^2 - 3x = 0

stone wagon
serene rain
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so uh basically

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moved the -4

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became a +4

stone wagon
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A and B are quadratic formula/whatever other way you solve quadratics

serene rain
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ohh

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i moved the 4 to the other side

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and got rid of it

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as y = -4

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4 -4 = 0

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should i bring the -4 from y over to make it 8?

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then solve as you said quadratic form?

stone wagon
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i have no clue what you are doing

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you have that y=0 for A and B

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so do x^2 + 3x - 4 = 0

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and apply the quadratic to that

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that's it

serene rain
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oh

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yeah mb my brain aint braining

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lemme solve this rq quad form

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-4 and 1

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so

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(sorry took a bit, got off track a bit)

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so (-4,0) for A

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and

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(1,0) for B

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serene rain
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(-2/3,-4) is my answer

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perpendicular means the slope changes so

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y = -3x+1

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plugged in first the x to solve for y

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then vise versa

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correct?

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pine forge
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actually, solve for y in terms of x in the first equation. Plug into the second and solve for x. Once you have your x values you can solve for y

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This is how you solve simultaneous equations

serene rain
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Alright sounds good

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not even joking i forgot how to do these bruv

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wary egret
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Which one

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ionic narwhal
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Cause you just factor and the multiply

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I mean subtract

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Like for a you can factor the denominator to (x+3)(x+2)

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Theb multiply the right side by x + 3

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And just x squared minus three subtracting x plus 3

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flat ravine
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Are two lines/rays perpendicular when their orientation is a 90 degree difference from eachother

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And do they have to form a vertex

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minor yoke
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Can someone explain how to solve this??

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minor yoke
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it says i have to write the slope intercept form of the equation of each line given the slope and y-intercept

mellow axle
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y=mx + b is what slope intercept form is

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where m is the slope and b is the y-intercept

minor yoke
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Oh

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wait

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so its y=8/5x-5 ??

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Yes

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Ok tyy

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surreal kernel
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I know the statement is wrong, but i don't know how to justify it

surreal kernel
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is because is addition and not multiplication, but i don't know if that is a good enough answer

craggy plank
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justified ✅

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manic echo
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how can i find the area of an elliptical sector

tranquil pine
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yeah you can

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is this the equation of ellipse ?

manic echo
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can i parametrise the ellipse then express theta in terms of t?

manic echo
tranquil pine
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equation of line or smth else ?

manic echo
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the angle from the x axis to the line that makes the sector?

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i think thats what they did

tranquil pine
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pi*ab

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i see

manic echo
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?

manic echo
tranquil pine
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yes you can try this

manic echo
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actually i think its easier to express it as a polar equation

tranquil pine
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since the equation are bad too,

manic echo
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then integrate it using the angle as the bounds

tranquil pine
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true

manic echo
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ill try that

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hallow night
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So I’m finding the axis of symmetry for f(X)=2x^2-4x and when I plug it in to the equation to make -4/2(2) I get -1. But I’m supposed to get positive 1 on the answer key. This happened for a different problem too I was doing. Am I doing something wrong?

amber holly
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Yeah, you are supposed to flip the sign

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For the record, the axis of symmetry of y = ax^2 + bx + c with a nonzero is x = -b/(2a)

hallow night
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Ohh I see

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warm python
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so I think I'm having trouble solving this assuming the field in R

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*is

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so {0} is an element of $R^2 \cap C^2$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know

warm python
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if $v,w \in C^2 \implies v,w \in R^2$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=I don't Know

warm python
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so it's closed under addition

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and multiplication too

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am I doing something wrong

tropic cosmos
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are you sure it is closed under scalar multiplication?

warm python
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I think it is

tropic cosmos
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Ok, if I have some scalar that is complex, will that change your answer?

warm python
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no

tropic cosmos
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why?

warm python
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it will still belong to the space

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but not the sub-space

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the field I'm assuming is R though

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so won't the scalar be from R

tropic cosmos
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if the field is R then yes... but I would think the field here should be C

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because we are talking about subspace of the C

warm python
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oh

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okay

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if the field in C, then won't it still be closed

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the element will still belong to $\C^2$

soft zealotBOT
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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

tropic cosmos
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no... because how can you get i(0,1) to be in R^2 (i.e., your R^2 would not be a vector space)

warm python
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ooh

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so it isn't a subspace

tropic cosmos
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yes

warm python
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I see, thanks

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how do I determine the field

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if it's not mentioned

trail mango
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you cannot

tropic cosmos
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depends...

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it is just your assumption mostly

warm python
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in that case. it's easier to work with a field on R IMO

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gives a neater result too

tropic cosmos
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true... but sometimes it is easier to work in C because to disprove something is easier than to prove something

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warm python
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I'm just working out the entirety of the exercies here, as I don't have a answer key

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so {0} is an element as (0,0,0) satisfies the given conditions

ocean lintel
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a.0) give a more direct closed form expression of that set
a.1) deduce whether it's a vector space

warm python
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what?

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sorry, I don't follow

ocean lintel
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Simplify their definition

warm python
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it's the set of vectors such that $a^3-b^3=0$

soft zealotBOT
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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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for the field $\R$

tiny gorge
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in the reals, a^3 = b^3 if and only if....?

soft zealotBOT
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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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warm python
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oh

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so $a-b=0$ and $c-d=0$

soft zealotBOT
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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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wait

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no

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let (a,b,c)= v

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and (d,e,f)=u

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then $(a+d,b+e,c+f)=v+u$

tiny gorge
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i'm not sure what you're doing

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basically (a) reduces to asking whether the set
{(a,b,c) such that a = b}
is a subspace

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

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tiny gorge
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you have to use the condition

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a=b and d=e

warm python
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yeah, I will now

tiny gorge
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ah ok

warm python
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$(a+d,a+d,c+f)$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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which satisfies teh given condition

tiny gorge
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yea

warm python
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so it's closed under addition

tiny gorge
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right

warm python
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closure under multiplication can be shown similarly

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so it's a subspace of $\R^3$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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(b) is slightly more tricky

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as $a^3= b^3 \centernot a=b$

tiny gorge
warm python
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That's the first thing I did

tiny gorge
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ah ok good

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tiny gorge
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and yes for (b) the key is that a^3 = b^3 doesn't imply a = b, as you said

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every nonzero complex number has three cube roots

warm python
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yeah

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which means that $a+d \neq b+e$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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necessarily

tiny gorge
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right, you can find a simple example

warm python
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say $\omega, \omega^2, 1$

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ƒ(Why am. I here)=lin-alg

warm python
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the cube roots of unity

tiny gorge
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yeah

warm python
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so it isn't a subspace

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thanks

tiny gorge
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sure

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sonic crystal
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how do i do this?

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ancient ginkgo
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are there any non-linear transformations that satisfy only additivity or only homogeneity?

ancient ginkgo
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all non-linear transformations i can think of satisfy neither

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rain lichen
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$f(x, y) = (\sqrt[3]{x^3 + y^3}, \sqrt[3]{x^3 + y^3})$

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risujemmaaja

rain lichen
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i think this works for satisfying homogeneity but not additivity

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thats crazy

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thanks

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Hello
Would it be subtraction because I would be subtracting 8 from both sides when I solve the problem?

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peak kernel
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how do i do this question? No linear combination of the three vectors in U make it = 0

main prairie
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0,0,2

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0,0,1

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0,0,3

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0,0,11111234556

peak kernel
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?

main prairie
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You need alpha,beta,gaama that makes equation 0 right

peak kernel
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yes

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none of those are correct

main prairie
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1,0,0

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2,0,0

peak kernel
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oh wait

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shit yeah im stupid

main prairie
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120304958827171,0,0

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Math is fun

peak kernel
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lol

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ty

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rocky drum
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how am i suppoed to find this

clear moon
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RQS and 115 are adjacent angles on a line

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so the angles are supplementary

rocky drum
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mhm

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so how do i get the answer

clear moon
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do you know what supplementary angles are..

rocky drum
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angles that add up to 180

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yea

clear moon
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do you still need to know how to get the answer?

rocky drum
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so ur saying its 180?

clear moon
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RQS and 115 are supplementary

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you just told me what supplementary meant

rocky drum
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so 65

clear moon
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sounds like you can set up and equation to solve for RQS

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yes

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alr thanks

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idk where to begin. please explain how you got the answer too

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chilly beacon
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they said b is wrong

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chilly beacon
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,rotate

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chilly beacon
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here is my work

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idk if it will help

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i just don’t know how to get to find b

dire solar
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i think they are asking the value of f at the local maxima

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basically, what is the maximum value this quadratic equation can take

chilly beacon
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like the y value?

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i did that thro chatgpt made sure it was right and got 7/4

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but it still said it was wrong

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but i just put 7/4

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peak kernel
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Why is 8sinh(u) wrong?

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peak kernel
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it says the correct answers are 8cosh(u) and 8sec(theta) but why is 8sinh(u) incorrect?

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For conditional mean this is what I did:

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P(X_1 = 1) = p(1, 1) + p(1, 2) = 3/18 + 5/18 = 8/18 = 4/9 right

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and then

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E[X_2 | X_1 = 1] = 1 * p(1, 1)/(4/9) + 2 * p(1, 2) / (4/9)

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right?

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which should = 13/8

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but online someone posted this as the solution

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what m I doing wrong

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and for E[X_2 | X_1 = 2]

P(X_1 = 2) = p(2, 1) + p(2, 2) = 4/18 + 6/18 = 5/9

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so

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E[X_2 | X_1 = 2] = 1 * p(2, 1)/(5/9) + 2 * p(2, 2) / (5/9) = 8/5

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and we can see that

E[X_2^2 | X_1 = 1] = 1 * p(1, 1)/(4/9) + 4 * p(1, 2) / (4/9) = 23/8

so var(X_2 | X_1 = 1) = 23/8 - (13/8)^2

versed crater
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this is so Despair

fathom stream
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ngl I think the person who posted that solution online is trolling or something

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it doesnt seem right

versed crater
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ok let's see

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find $\mathbb E[X_2 | X_1 \in {1, 2}]$

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Frosst

fathom stream
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wait shouldnt I find it for each? like

E[X_2 | X_1 = 1] and E[X_2 | X_1 = 2] seperately?

versed crater
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yeah but if you think about it, the expectation of X_2 given X_1 is 1 or 2

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clearly should depend on the probability that X_1 is 1 or is 2

fathom stream
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monkethink mhm so will the formula be different thn what I did?

versed crater
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cos if X_1 = 1 is very likely compared to 2, then the E[X_2|X_1 = 1] is "worth more"

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it sounds like $\mathbb E[X_2 | X_1 \in {1, 2}] = P(X_1 = 1)\mathbb E[X_2|X_1 = 1] + P(X_1 = 2)\mathbb E[X_2|X_1 = 2]$

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Frosst

fathom stream
versed crater
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this sounds very reasonable to me i think

fathom stream
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wait shit

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I copy pasted

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2 of the same ones

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lemme redo

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(4/9) * (1 * p(1, 1)/(4/9) + 2 * p(1, 2)/(4/9)) + (5/9) * (1 * p(2, 1)/(5/9) + 2 * p(2, 2)/(5/9)) = (4/9 * 13/8) + (5/9 * 8/5) = 1.611

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put ` and ` between your texts

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looks like this

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how are you getting 5/9

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P(X_1 = 2) = p(2, 1) + p(2, 2) = 4/18 + 6/18 = 5/9

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that's right ok

fathom stream
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all of it?

versed crater
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just that part it's hard to read

fathom stream
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are u getting the same answer as me

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1.611

versed crater
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my question is why does it just c ancel

fathom stream
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what cancels

versed crater
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ok but X_1 can only either be 1 or 2

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that's the only things it can be

fathom stream
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Im so confused rn

versed crater
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think about htis

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$\mathbb E[X_2|X_1 = {1, 2}]$

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Frosst

fathom stream
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right

versed crater
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this is how much on average is X_2, given X_1 is either 1 or 2

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but look at the support

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X_1 can only ever be 1 or 2

fathom stream
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right

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Idgi

versed crater
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so if i tell you X_1 is either 1 or 2

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that's like saying nothing

fathom stream
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should we have done it seperately?

versed crater
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like imagine a coin is coloured red on heads and blue on tails

fathom stream
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right

versed crater
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and X_2 tells you the colour

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and X_1 tells you if it's head or tails

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we flip the coin

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i tell you "the coin landed on either heads or tails"

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well no shit sherlock

fathom stream
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😭

versed crater
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so X_1 really doesn't tell us anything at all

fathom stream
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I think the question wanted me to find E[X_2 | X_1 = 1] and E[X_2 | X_1 = 2]

versed crater
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that should be easy

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but E[X_2| X_1 = {1, 2}] = E[X_2]

fathom stream
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came across another solution

versed crater
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why the hell are there squares

fathom stream
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I think they made a typo doe

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should have been

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3/18 and 5/18

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right

fathom stream
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the table?

versed crater
fathom stream
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oh so they can find the variance later ig

fathom stream
versed crater
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oh variance

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oh that makes sense

fathom stream
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so I did it correctly?

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earlier

versed crater
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yeah

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i think it's right

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E[X_2] = 1*(1+2)/18 + 2*(1+4)/18 + 1*(2+2)/18 + 2*(2+4)/18 = 1.61

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did you use chain rule?

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i dont think so

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i dont know how to get vector u(t)

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you need to calculate the derivative of f(t)

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you don't need u(t) for all t

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if they gave you u(3) and u'(3) it's cause they're enough to answer the problem

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oh

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u(t) . v(t), how do you differentiate a dot product ?

jaunty sluice
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am i able to do the derivative of vector u(3) dot the derivative of vector v(3)

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it works like the product rule

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so

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sure

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okay

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do i need to plug in 3 into those t variabkles?

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Hello
How do I solve this? First step is to find X right?
I did 36x-1+134x=169 but that did not work..

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how could I use a ti-84 plus CE to find one zero of this function: f(x)=5cosx+2/5x

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i have a ti 84 really old but thats what you do

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you might need to adjust the scale

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but thats just it

midnight warren
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when I plug in 5cos(x)+(2/5)x it's giving me a straight line

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my window is xmin=-20 xmax=20
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I know it's supposed to be a cos function so idk what I'm doing wrong

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when I graph it in desmos it's just fine

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try

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no change it's still linear for some reason

dreamy iron
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how does it look in the calculator

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similar to y/x

dreamy iron
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are you sure you inputed everything correctly

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trying to put a pic in here

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I can't find this text channel on my phone for some reason??

dreamy iron
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check if thats the right plot and everything

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if everything fails try like restarting the calc

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i gtg now tho

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how do I check if that's the right plot?

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I do not understand

dreamy iron
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that calculator has 3 different plots

midnight warren
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I see them at the top

dreamy iron
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just check if all the other ones are empty

midnight warren
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lol how?

dreamy iron
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i gtg tho

midnight warren
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ok

dreamy iron
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good luck and im sorry

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all good

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🤦‍♂️ I was in degree mode

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what is the difference between n-dim real coordinate space and n-dim euclidian space? i want to be sure my notion is correct.

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I'll look it up again, but iirc Euclidean just presupposes the Euclidean dot product, whereas you can have spaces of R^n with other inner products defined

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Depends on how you define them

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thank you though

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Euclidean space doesn't really denote physical space. We can use it to represent physical space in a non relativistic context, but that's not it's sole purpose

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# fathom zinc and as an informal notion in differentiating the two, would it be that euclidian...

That can work if it makes sense to you.

An inner product space is a vector space with a choice of an inner product, much like you choose the field over which your vector space is defined.
The Euclidean space is physical in origin, as it comes from Euclid's postulates, used to describe the only geometry that made sense at the time. That is, a geometry where we can measure angles and distances as we could in the physical world, so flat space without weird curvature.
In this sense, the Euclidean space is an inner product space where we chose the dot product (multiply corresponding coordinates together and add everything) for our inner product.

On the other hand, the space R^n is a bare vector space : we haven't made the choice of inner product yet, but it could be any, not only the dot product as you learned.

While saying that the real coordinate space is a way of graphing vectors of the Euclidean space isn't false per se, I do feel like it misplaces the reason. We can represent positions of vectors in Euclidean space as n-tuples because the Euclidean space is constructed from the vector space R^n, on which we added a notion of distance through the dot product.

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although it may make sense to me, I don't think it will work

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given that there are opposing views of 'abstract' euclidian space

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i seek a reliable definition.

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Can someone help me with part B? What do I say for it?

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draw all points on the graph

elfin quartz
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Yeah I have

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do you see a correlation?

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Is there a right or wrong answer for these questions?

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Because in part d, it asked to calculate the correlation coefficient then compare the answer to part b

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how do i do any of this question

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i only know how part A and its bc the rate < 1

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other than that idk

dusky lily
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ok so lets start with part (b)

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when they say initial temperature

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what does that suggest

merry lodge
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temperature before it starts to decay

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?

dusky lily
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yes, and you know T is a function of time t

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as time increases, the temperature decreases

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as the value of t increases, the value of T decreases

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but where does 't' start from

merry lodge
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69 i think

dusky lily
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nope t itself starts from 0

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at the 0th second, just when the coffee has been served

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then 1 second later, the temperature is lesser

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a 1000 seconds later your coffee is even colder

merry lodge
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so how do i do the rest of the question

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well for (b) you calculate the value of T when t=0

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"initially" means t=0

merry lodge
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isnt the number before the 1/2 always the initial value tho

dusky lily
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nope

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the initial value is when t=0 (or whatever the variable in the function is)

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T is the temperature as they say. T(t) means the temperature changes with time 't'.

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thats how functions work

merry lodge
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so answer to b is 90

dusky lily
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yep

merry lodge
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how do i graph this

dusky lily
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now for graphing it
do you know what the graph of a^x looks like? (a being any number)

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like the general shape of the graph

merry lodge
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yea

dusky lily
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yep. this is the case when a>1

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so like 2^x
it will increase exponentially as x increases

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but what if a<1

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like it is in your case

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(1/2)^x

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or (1/2)^t whatever, variable doesnt matter

merry lodge
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isnt it like thsi

dusky lily
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yep perfect

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now all you gotta do is add some details

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such as where does the sketch of the function intercept the y-axis

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(you calculated this in part (b) )

merry lodge
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90

dusky lily
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yep so when 't' is the 0th minute, the Temperature is 90 degrees

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in other words

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when x=0, y = 90

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so you mark (0,90) on the point where the curve intercepts the y axis

merry lodge
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ok but what else do i do

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you also gotta make sure your curve isnt going to the left of the y-axis

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since that would mean x<0

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or time< 0

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and time cant be negative

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so instead of going all the way, your graph ends at x=0

merry lodge
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ok but how do i graph the rest of it

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you have a curve so far, you have the point where it intersects the y axis

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and youve made sure time isnt going negative

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thats your curve

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if you want you can add one last detail:
as "t" keeps on increasing.. there will eventually be a time where t is so large that 69(1/2)^(t/30) will become so incredible small that your graph will turn into a straight line at y=21

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so you could draw out a dashed line indicating that at any point, the temperature of the coffee doesnt go below 21 degrees

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thats the entire graph

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you dont need to make the axis with 0, 50,100,200 etc as long as you mark (0,90) on the graph

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and if needed, (0,21) indicating where the graph becomes a constant

merry lodge
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is there not some table of values or something tha ti can follow

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to graph itaccurately

dusky lily
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you do that when you dont know what the shape of the graph looks like

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but since you already know that

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i mean you could use the table of values method if you want to make the "shape of the curve" pass through all points it should

merry lodge
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is there a parent function table of values for exponential functions i can follow

dusky lily
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you take different values of "t", and you find the corresponding value of "T" for that specific "t"
then you mark (t,T) on the graph

dusky lily
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you make the table of values

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in this particular question, the table consists of some test values for t, and the corresponding values of T

dusky lily
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but as i said, you dont need to do that if you mention (0,90) on the graph, and that y=21 is the least it goes by marking (0,21) on the graph as well

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thats what brings the accuracy

merry lodge
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ok

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(d) should be pretty easy given what youve learnt so far

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mb for not saying anything, it is easy

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I have to find the determinant of the second matrix. Given the result of the first matrix.

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This has to be done by applying determinant properties.

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But I don't know how to proceed any further.

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And by expanding the first column I got a determinant with 2 equal rows, so that's 0

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Not really, i just don't know how to proceed.

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I need to get something out of the determinant of the 3x3 matrix that I can compare to the 2x2 matrix determinant.

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Well technically if I pick some N for the a,b,c,d I could check it by myself right?

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does it matter how i write the solutions?

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as in, for the case gama is not equal 0, not equal 1, can i just write

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the convention is to write it as a column vector. If you want to express it as a row vector you can use the transpose operation, like $$[-3\lambda + \frac{2}{\lambda} ;;;; \lambda ;;;; \lambda]^T$$

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property:
If two intersecting lines of a plane are parallel to another plane, then the planes are parallel.

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I don't know when to use n , c or element of symbol

I mean I don't understand how to put the sentence (the property) in symbols

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Do you know what the symbols mean?

cobalt vigil
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yes n = intersection "not if its the right term" i dont speak english

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c = subset

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Yeah, so you want to identify the variables of the property.
“Two intersecting lines of a plane”
Already you know you need to define 2 variables for the lines and a variable for the plane, the 2 lines must intersect and they lie in the plane (are a subset of the plane)

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“parallel to another plane”
Now you also have another plane in play, and both lines are parallel to the new plane

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Oh yea I see now thanks

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but ive another question

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whats the diffrences between c and E ?

you know the c with the stripe

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I feel so dumb now ;-;

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$x \in V$ means a single element $x$ is a member of a set $V$

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e.g. 1 € R, where R is the set if real numbers

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so its like E is one part

and C is the full part of something?

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$y \subset V$ means a set of elements are members of a set $V$

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e.g. {1,2,3} c R

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find the direction cosines

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what's your native language, maybe I can find the word in that language

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German

warm python
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,w direction cosines

warm python
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Richtungskosinus

faint locust
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,w direction cosines in German

warm python
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heard of this>

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esssentially a way to describes slopes in $\R^3$

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I'll send some resources

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I think with describe the position it more means to talk about symmetries, if the origin is in included etc.

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So this is symmetric to the x3-axis

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It isn't symmetric to any coordinate plane or anything like that

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Well I don't think it asks us to calculate the direction cosines

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How do I simplify this

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Do i multiply by conjugate ?

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how do I prove there exists 2 numbers a,b such that:
(2^a - 2^b) | 2017

I understand the Pigeonhole Principle, but i just don't know how to prove it

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the solution says I need to think that there is a finite amount of remainders for 2017 ({0,1,2,...,2016}), but I don't understand how to prove it

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as in that necessarily there will be 2^a - 2^b | 2017 then

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hm?

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2017 is prime

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blissful condor
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2017 divides the other thing

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i didn't know it before looking at one of the solutions myself

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so if 2^a - 2^b | 2017 either (a,b) = (1,0) or 2^a - 2^b = 2017

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are you sure you copied the problem right

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i assume this is from some olympiad right

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royal schooner
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oh

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first question by the way (4 parter)

royal schooner
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also since you just need to proof there exist a,b 2^a - 2^b | 2017 isnt puting (a,b) = (1,0) enough

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what is 2^1 - 2^0

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yes

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royal schooner
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what do you think 1 | 2017 means

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blissful condor
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yeah the problem is written wrong

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this is what i’m saying

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blissful condor
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a|b means the opposite of what you think it means

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oh

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I did write it wrong

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"prove that 2 numbers a,b, makes:
a^2 - b^2 is divisible by 2017"

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you want a^2 - b^2 = 2017k
=> (a+b)(a-b) = 2017k

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can you find some a and b which make it possible

royal schooner
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you want a factor of 2017 on lhs

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a=+-b?

royal schooner
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no

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then no

royal schooner
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(2016,1) works for example

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royal schooner
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cos then a+b = 2017
(a+b)(a-b) = 2017*2015=2017k

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good solution

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but do you know how I could use the Pigeonwhole principle for this question instead?

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uh no

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hm maybe

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ah ..

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yeah

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it's a reasoning that there must be 2 numbers 2^a and 2^b exist that do make this possible to get 2016+1 or something similar

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since that's their remainders

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fierce orchid
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for nontrivial cases

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a=b+n*phi(2017)

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wow

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its easiest wiht just basic number theory

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i found a similiar question in some pdf

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let me try to find a pigeon hole solution

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i understand it now

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yeah makes sense

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yeah

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ty so much mates

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fierce orchid
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youll need it for olympiad

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fierce orchid
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get what

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youll learn totient sooner or later

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i see the see it, but i dont see an application like Pigeonwhole principle

fierce orchid
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what?

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if i asked to you to find distinct (a,b) such that 2^a-2^b is a multiple of 2017, how woul dyou do it?

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do you know modular arithmetic?

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you would have to try every 2^a from 0 to 2016

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yeah

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ok youll learn it on your olympiad journey

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once you start learning number theory

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fierce orchid
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no

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well actually maybe

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do you know what year as a math major?

fierce orchid
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but not classical linear algebra

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oh are you doing this for olympiad or college?

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im still a student idk

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ohh

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nvm then

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it's my homework

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oh i see

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idk when ever you start number theory

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does it get easier to do proofs?

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wdym?

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for my homework

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if you practice proofs writing proofs will become easier ofc

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it's so weird because these are so hard

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or do you too need to look up solutions for homework problems?

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itll become normal

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okay

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youre good

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ty for your help mate

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np

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find all $a \in \mathbb{R}$ such that $\\\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac{(1+a)^n}{n}(x-2)^n\\$ has radius of convergence equal to 2

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938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71

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bruh I was talking in other help channel because I thought it was mines

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mine closed due to inactivity

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basically after taking root test

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I get this

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,, \lim_{n \to \infty} |1 + a| < \frac{1}{|x-2|}

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938c2cc0dcc05f2b68c4287040cfcf71

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im still confused

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I dont get it

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R=1/|1+a|

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@gentle zephyr Has your question been resolved?

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I am stuck on this question, the answer I am getting is not even on the line. I can't figure out where I am going wrong.

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@tired galleon are you still around to help? I know you said to use this formula

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$$\mathcal{L} (x,y,\lambda) = f(x,y) + \lambda g(x,y)$$

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But it isn't in my textbook so I was trying to do it the way they do

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But there shouldn't really be a z value, so I'm unsure what "f(x,y)" would even be?

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Other than 0

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is lagrange required?

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bit of an overkill id say

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hm, sure

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I've been using $$\nabla f(x,y,\lambda) =\lambda \nabla g(x,y)$$

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Must sleep as I have been in a plane for too many hours today to stay awake any longer, sorry sleep But a comrade should get you to the answer catking

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Why is g=0?

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set g(x,y) to 0, thats ur constraint

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Wouldn't that be when they intersect?

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Or wait what?

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I thought g would have to refer to the point in some way

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this is just the general methodology for lagrange multipliers

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But if g is zero isn't the gradient of g also 0?

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Meaning that gives no information on the Lagrange multiplier?

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no

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we set g = 0 as our constraint equation, let me link u a page that helped me when i learned this

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g is not identically zero
g=0 means you restrict yourself to the level set where g is zero

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Ohhh yeah I see

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So the point where g=0

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Ok yes

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So, am I not doing that?

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I thought I was kind of

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Because g(x,y)=0 when x=4 and y=2

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Oh but is it only true when I plug the points in?

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i didnt look at ur work

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lemme see

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honestly i cant really tell what ur doing on that page, it looks like u flip flopped f and g tho

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Do I need to solve for the multiplier and then use that to find y in terms of x and x in terms of y and then plug that into g(x,y) to get the values of each that make g(x,y) = 0? That's what I did for previous questions

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Oh but I am trying to maximize the distance not the given equation

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True

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$f(x,y) = (x-4)^2 + (y-2)^2 \newline g(x,y) = y - 2x - 3$

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So the line is the constraint, I was thinking backwards

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Ok just to check the steps. I find the gradients, set them equal, solve for the Lagrange multiplier, find each variable in terms of the other, and then substitute them into the constraint formula g(x,y) to find the point?

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find gradients of f and g
multiply grad g by lambda
set vector components equal
solve for lambda in each equation
set both values of lambda equal
now u have 2 equations in terms of x and y, the one u just made, and the constraint g (set g equal to 0)

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dude i gotta go outside, the sky is so nice, if u want i can check ur work later

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just dm me or keep this channel open or smth

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Thanks for helping

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np, lmk later if u need help

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I think I can probably get it? I'm having a tough time really grasping this concept for some reason

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bro i literally just got back thumbsupanimegirl

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what did u end up getting

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The same thing blobcry

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I get the same equations for lamda still

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show me ur work

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fathom walrus
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ok so

gilded flame
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Well the lamda equations are inverse, but the x and y relationship is the same