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Prove by contradiction, that there is no least positive rational number

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I sort of know how to do it, but what would be the proper notation for that

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I had the idea that any positive rational number divided by an integer greater than 1 (e.g. 2) would produce a smaller number so we could go on forever

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So the only thing im having tousle with is the notation

hybrid heath
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You basically have it exactly like that

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Assume there is some least positive rational number p

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show p/2 is rational and 0<p/2<p and that's your contradiction

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Oh

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Sounds straight forwad

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To be honest, I don't know where to start with this problem

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If anyone can give me a hint

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Wouldn't this be the union of rational numbers?

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idk where to start

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i got a+b=3 but dont know what to do after that

ivory vessel
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in other words, you also need to calculate f'(1) = g'(1)

torpid sequoia
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you also have to constrain f(1) = g(1) = 3

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oh i missed that sorry

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little flame
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What do you think about task number 11?

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little flame
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I personally think that I have no idea how to solve it, so suggestions?

tranquil pine
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use S_n - S_n-1 = a_n

little flame
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Oh thank you I will give it a try

tranquil pine
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?

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(Sn - Sn-1) /n

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that is correct An

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its not the same a_n

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Look at {An}

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there is k *Ak

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so need /n

tranquil pine
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please read the messages

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and i suggest deleting your messages as well

little flame
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I got a_20=a_n

tranquil pine
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oh no

little flame
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smth wrong

tranquil pine
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Sn - Sn-1?

little flame
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Yes

tranquil pine
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Sn - Sn-1 = ?

little flame
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a_n

tranquil pine
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Sn = n^2 + 2n

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right?

little flame
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yes

tranquil pine
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Sn-1 = (n-1)^2 + 2(n-1) ?

little flame
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one sec

little flame
tranquil pine
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oh no.....

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how can u get Sn?

little flame
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n(n+1)/2

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@tranquil pine

pastel cosmos
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what

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no

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we're letting S_n = a_1 + 2a_2 + ... + na_n

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so you can't use that formula

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little flame
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I see

pastel cosmos
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That formula means 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n = n(n+1)/2

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But we're letting S_n = a_1 + 2a_2 + ... + na_n

little flame
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so?

pastel cosmos
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which is S_n = left hand side

little flame
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What will be S_n-1?

pastel cosmos
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for example

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S_ 1 = a_1

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S_3 = a_1 + 2a_2 + 3a_3

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right?

little flame
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yes

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Oh I get it

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S_19

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20a_20=a_n?

pastel cosmos
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So S_(n-1) = a_1 + 2a_2 + ... + (n-1)a_(n-1)

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Then what is S_n - S_(n-1)

little flame
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If we subtract S_20-S_19=a_n?

pastel cosmos
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no

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Let's see again

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S_20 = a_1 + 2a_2 + 3a_3 + ... + 19a_19 + 20a_20

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S_19 = a_1 + 2a_2 + 3a_3 + ... + 19a_19

little flame
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20a_20

pastel cosmos
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yes

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there we go

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but on the other way

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S_20 = 20^2 + 2*20

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you can compute that

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and S_19 = 19^2 + 2*19

little flame
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S_20-S_19=20a_20

pastel cosmos
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yes

pastel cosmos
little flame
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Ah I get it now

pastel cosmos
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yay

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Thank you

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pearl spear
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can someone help me oslve this

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junior radish
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Simplify x, then replace in x² - 2ax

pearl spear
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i squared both sides

junior radish
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Can you show?

pearl spear
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basically

junior radish
pearl spear
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i squared both sides

junior radish
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Rationalize is a better option

pearl spear
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ooo

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i didnt think abt that

ornate knot
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it would be better if u multiply and divide with conjugate

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alr

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ima try

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yes its solved

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clear crown
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can anyone see the solution here?

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tawdry storm
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Is this supposed to be a pattern recognition problem, or do you have a formula somewhere?

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Because I'm not seeing a pattern

clear crown
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no formula

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got to find a patern myself

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but i can't see either

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granite gazelle
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are there any high school problems here

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like bro im in eighth grade 1tf is happening

clear crown
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lol

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this isn't exactly a math problem

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normal hill
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Ok so big question

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normal hill
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we have the ODE y'' + 2y' + y = 0

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I want to find power sereis solutinos

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we try

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$y(x) = \sum_{n=0}a_nx^n$

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Mortta

normal hill
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As our trial

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Doing that i got

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We than just got the answer using general solution of ODE

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and we got

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y = C1e^-x + xC2e^-x

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idk what to do

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im trying to proof this but i get stuck with just cosines, using cubic sum, what else can i try

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Hi can I get help with c

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$\int \frac{\arctan\left(x\right)}{\left(1+x\right)^3}dx$

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Why am. I here

warm python
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can I have a hint

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$x=tan(\theta)$ doesn't work vey well

soft zealotBOT
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Why am. I here

warm python
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*very

rustic musk
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I have no idea but an integration by parts might make sense

warm python
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Hmm, I'lll try that

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Thanks

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scenic rapids
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does any1 happen to have a counter example for this...

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i know its false but cant seem to find a ceg ughhhh

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Adam Chebil

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hidden kiln
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Can someone help me with this question pls

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hidden kiln
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But I don’t want the actual answer, I just need some help

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I don’t know where to start

tribal jasper
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idk if it's right but i might be able to get you pointed in the right direction

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since p, q, r, s, t are consecutive positive integrs

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using another integer n (n≧3)

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we can write it as
p=n-2
q=n-1
r=n
s=n+1
t=n+2

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p+q+r+s+t=5n
q+r+s=3n

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all we have to do now is find an integer n so that 5n is a perfect cube and 3n is a perfect square

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I did find one that works, just not too sure if it's the smallest

hidden kiln
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Why can’t we set p=n, q=n+1, r=n+2 and so on

tribal jasper
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your idea is totally valid

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but if we do n, n+1, n+2, n+3, m+4

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when we add p+q+r+s+t it becomes 5n+10

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q+r+s becomes 3n+6

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and it makes it harder to check if it's a perfect cube/square

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because of the +3 and the +5 at the end

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tribal jasper
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oh yeah

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youre right its 5n+10

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sorry bout that

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and its 3n+6

hidden kiln
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But what’s wrong with that

tribal jasper
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We're being asked for the value of R

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and it's wiser to set n as R so we don't have to do any tinkering later

hidden kiln
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Oh ye sry

tribal jasper
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also doing it like I did makes it so both p+q+r+s+t and q+r+s are in* multiplication form only*

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sorry if what I'm saying is not making sense

hidden kiln
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And as r is a positive integer n can’t be negative meaning that n can’t be any smaller negative number

tribal jasper
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yes exactly

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hence the n≧3

hidden kiln
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But p+q+r+s+t is a perfect cube

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So I guess that we can’t assume that p is 1

tribal jasper
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yeah

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if p=1 then 1+2+3+4+5=15 which isn't a perfect cube

hidden kiln
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So we need to find what is the least value that p can be

tribal jasper
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i think we're supposed to find the smallest r

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from the screenshot you posted

hidden kiln
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So p<q<r<s<t

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As they r consecutive

tribal jasper
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I did it as
p=n-2
q=n-1
r=n
s=n+1
t=n+2

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and if we find the smallest n

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p should be the smallest as well

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since p is 2 less than r

hidden kiln
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Ye

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So p<r

tribal jasper
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yes

hidden kiln
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So what’s next

tribal jasper
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If you add p, q, r, s, t

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p+q+r+s+t=
n-2
+n-1
+n
+n+1
+n+2

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which equals to 5n

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and q+r+s=
n-1
+n
+n+1

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which equals to 3n

hidden kiln
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Ye

tribal jasper
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Now all you have to do

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is find the smallest n

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so that 5n becomes a perfect cube

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and 3n becomes a perfect square

hidden kiln
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Ye

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So would it be a trial and error method

tribal jasper
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Yeah

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The last part I couldn't figure out logically

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or

hidden kiln
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K lemme try

tribal jasper
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oke 👍

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sorry for the long explanation

hidden kiln
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It’s ok

tribal jasper
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❤️

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hidden kiln
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@tribal jasper have a look at this similar type of question

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answer:

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can we not do it this way?

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ionic venture
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Where do you need help?

hidden kiln
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<@&286206848099549185>

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digital steeple
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whats your question?

hidden kiln
digital steeple
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i have seen that. and i have seen that you posted also the solution. so i ask you again, whats your question?

hidden kiln
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What r u talking about?

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i don't know the solution

digital steeple
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wtf? what is this?

hidden kiln
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digital steeple
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explain the difference.

bleak arch
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Yeah you solve in terms of the value you are finding

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They are consecutive integers

hidden kiln
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hidden kiln
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This is the actual question that i need help with

digital steeple
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you have 5 conesecutive positive numbers in increasing order.

The solution you posted starts with:

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in my world does this mean p,q,r,s,t are increasing. exactly what you need.

hidden kiln
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but i also have some doubts in the solution that i posted

digital steeple
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so again: what is your question? what are your doubts in the solution?

hidden kiln
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i don't understand this part

digital steeple
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q+r+s = 3r - right?

hidden kiln
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like how is it 3^2n+1

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and 5^3m+2

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digital steeple
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q+r+s = 3r, this is a perfect square and its divisible by 3. so you need an even count of the prime factor 3. one comes from 3, and - to be even - and odd count must come from r. -> 3^(2n+1) divides r.
and the same with 5.

hidden kiln
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i get how it's divisible by 3

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but not the rest

digital steeple
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what exactly?

hidden kiln
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"so you need an even count of the prime factor 3. one comes from 3, and - to be even - and odd count must come from r. -> 3^(2n+1) divides r."

digital steeple
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is 3 times 7 a perfect square?

hidden kiln
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no

digital steeple
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why not?

hidden kiln
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cuz 3*7=21 and sqr root of 21 is not an integer

digital steeple
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what do you have to change/to add that it becomes a perfect square?

hidden kiln
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what becomes perfect sqr

digital steeple
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3 times (7x) should be a perfect square.

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what has x to be?

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in a minimal version.

hidden kiln
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idk

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21x should be a perfect square

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?

digital steeple
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if a perfect sqare is divisible by a primefactor, it has to be divisible by primefactor^2. so here it si divisible by 3, so it must be divisible by 9.

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(3r) is divisible by 3 and it is a perfect square, so r must be divisible by 3.

digital steeple
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what if r is divisible by 9? is that possible?

hidden kiln
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i don't think so

digital steeple
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if r is divisible by 9 -> (3r) is divisible by 27, as (3r) is a perfect square, it must be divisible by 81. -> r must by divisible by 27. so if r is divisible by 9, r has to be divisible by 27.

hidden kiln
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oh ye 9(3r)=27r

digital steeple
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so, you know if 3^(2n) divides r, 3^(2n+1) must divde 3.

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Okay, I evaluated R'(3)

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not exactly sure how to interpret it, or put it into words exactly

ashen warren
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whats the ' mean

tranquil pine
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R'(3) = 1150, so i said "that's the rate of revenue change when increasing the price 3 times"

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ashen warren
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i have no clue what that menas

tranquil pine
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then why dafuq are u here goofy

vapid basalt
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Sorry based on the price increase

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But it works the same either way

tranquil pine
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Alr so my explanation is correct

vapid basalt
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X is the amount of 2.50$ increments

tranquil pine
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Ahh so R'(3) tells us that the revenue will increase by $1150 with 3 price increases?

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I don't need hlep figuring out the equation just understanding math lingo, what does the R -> R thing mean?

true walrus
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I know that fancy R is ment to represent real numbers but what does the arrow mean?

crude wagon
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@true walrus

true walrus
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yes?

dapper bramble
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it means f is a function with domain and codomain R

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domain is the main thing

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codomain is the second thing right

dapper bramble
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yes

true walrus
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so the domain is R and the codomain is R

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doesn't that just mean all real numbers

crude wagon
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yea R is the set of real numbers

crude wagon
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Range is set of outputs under the function

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may not always be same as codomain

true walrus
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yea range is a whole different thing now

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wild.

dapper bramble
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range is sometimes used to mean codomain

crude wagon
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Range is a subset of co-domain

dapper bramble
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which i don’t like bc it’s unclear

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but people do it

true walrus
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mathematicians have no imagination fr

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can't think of a simpler way to show this

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so anyways

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if it showed it like R -> Z, does that mean Z is the codomain of R?

dapper bramble
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codomain of the function you would say

true walrus
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the function f(x)

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then whats the point of R -> Z??

dapper bramble
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the function f

true walrus
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this uni stuff is harder than I thought it would be to learn

dapper bramble
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but it matters when you want to for example compose functions together

true walrus
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do you mind providing an example of what you mean?

dapper bramble
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like to describe when it makes sense to compose functions

true walrus
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ohh

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so let me just straighten the definition out for me to understand:
Domain is all the numbers that can go into the function
the codomain is all the numbers that can come out of the function
the range is the numbers that the domain has taken?

dapper bramble
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no

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well

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ok the last thing is weirdly worded but maybe

true walrus
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I am not sure how to explain it but

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the codomain is like every single outcome from the domain but the range only takes a few of them from the codomain

dapper bramble
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the codomain is just something you define when you define the function

true walrus
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hmmm

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so the codomain is the possible outcomes of the function

dapper bramble
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depends what possible outcomes means

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the range is the set of outputs you actually get from passing elements through the function

true walrus
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then the codomain is the set of possible outputs of passing hypothetical elements through a function?

dapper bramble
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umm

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no that just sounds like the range

true walrus
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ok nvm

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so to loop back to the original

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how to I say R -> Z

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like how we call > 'greater than' do u understand?

dapper bramble
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that doesn't make much sense by itself

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f: R -> Z means f is a function with domain R and codomain Z

true walrus
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ahh

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ok

dapper bramble
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when you do this

true walrus
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that makes sense now

dapper bramble
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you can then ask questions like, is the range (or image) of the function equal to its codomain?

true walrus
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I see

dapper bramble
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in other words do you hit everything in the codomain when you pass elements through f

true walrus
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I understand now, thank you for the help

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yw

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how do i make my casio calculator give answers in surd form

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my friends have similar calculators and have their answers in surd form

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idk ifmy calculators just old but its literally the same calculator

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surely someone knows

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Numbers (a), (b), (c), (\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}) are integers. Are all three numbers (\frac{ab}{c}), (\frac{ac}{b}), (\frac{bc}{a}) necessarily integers?

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kitten

minor mist
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integer + integer = integer

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oh wait

vocal nimbus
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It's only given that sum is integer

minor mist
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nah

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take for example

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1/3

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its not

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true

midnight sparrow
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? why explain

minor mist
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ab/c = 1/3

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nvm

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im trippin

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hold on

vocal nimbus
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<@&286206848099549185>

cerulean radish
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woah

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!15m

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cerulean radish
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discord kitten

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:0

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WHAT

midnight sparrow
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I think not necessarily think of roots of a polynomial

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a polynomial of degree 3 with coefficients integers here doesn't mean all his roots are integers

vocal nimbus
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Also last number is integer

midnight sparrow
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rational root theorem can help you

vocal nimbus
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$\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}$

cerulean radish
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kitten

cerulean radish
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dollars

minor mist
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therefore it has to be an integer?

midnight sparrow
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?

minor mist
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product is an integer

midnight sparrow
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and ?

minor mist
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sum is also an integer

vocal nimbus
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It doesn't imply that

minor mist
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contradict?

midnight sparrow
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$1/3*6=2$

minor mist
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example

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phoestaclies

minor mist
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okay

minor mist
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the sum isnt an integer

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<@&286206848099549185>

minor mist
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the sum as well as product is an integer

cerulean radish
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cerulean radish
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jesus

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u pinged us once

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dayum

vocal nimbus
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It was already 15 mins

midnight sparrow
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calm I'll help you

minor mist
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if the sum and product of the three numbers is an integer then I believe those 3 numbers must be an integer?(wrt question)

ionic venture
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Let ab = x, bc = y, ac = z

vocal nimbus
minor mist
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product is abc

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a,b and c are integers

inland kettle
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I BEG

vocal nimbus
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The task needs another proof

ionic venture
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$Hello$

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Hello

vocal nimbus
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Roman_Garland

midnight sparrow
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phoestaclies

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Roman_Garland

minor mist
midnight sparrow
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you didn't precise this in your question

minor mist
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and 0 isnt valid

midnight sparrow
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you want to prove that it's integer so affirm that it's integer is contradictory

minor mist
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the question's here

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Roman_Garland

minor mist
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a,b and c are INTEGERS

vocal nimbus
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SO?

minor mist
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root3 is an integer?

vocal nimbus
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it's not related to question

minor mist
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im talking wrt

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question

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my

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bad

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i didnt specify

vocal nimbus
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we are given that a, b, c and $\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}$ are integers

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kitten

minor mist
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yes

vocal nimbus
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it's different

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but we aren

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't given that like ab/c is integer, we need this to prove

minor mist
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oh yeah prove

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logically integer

vocal nimbus
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Yea but proof is required sadcat

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Oh, I see, thank you

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Hello how do u do (ii)?

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,rccw

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oh ya then how do u get it to tanx?

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what does tanx represent in terms of the sides of a right angle, if you remember?

midnight current
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like opp/adj?

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yeah!

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you know the opposite and adjacent

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normal hill
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My prof

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is wrong

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i subbed in r0 into the top

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you get positive epislon for binding energy

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not negative

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whats ur question

normal hill
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Im asking

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is my prof wrong

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I think he is

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and yes it is

livid brook
lucid tree
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he is wrrong

normal hill
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should be positive correct

lucid tree
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binding energy is a neg quantity

normal hill
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coz the minus cancel eachother

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  1. Find the volume of the solid generated when the region under the curve $y=\frac{1}{\left(x^{2}-1\right)}\ \left{\ 2\le x\le3\right}$ is rotated about the line $x=-2$
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water beam

sonic crystal
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@lucid tree hello helper

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what steps should i do to start

lucid tree
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i dont remember volumes of revolution that r not at the x or y axis 😭

sonic crystal
lucid tree
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last time i touched calc was 2 years ago

sonic crystal
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what are you doing now?

lucid tree
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lin alg

sonic crystal
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oo

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you don’t do any sort of calc in LA?

lucid tree
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calc is not required in LA at all

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u can do a LA course right after learning algebra 2

sonic crystal
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Oh that’s cool

sonic crystal
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hm

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cool shape

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i think

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maybe the radius is 3-x

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$V=2\pi\int_{2}^{3}\left(3-x\right)\left(\frac{1}{x^{2}-1}\right)dx$

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water beam

sonic crystal
lucid tree
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now to integrate it

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its trivial

sonic crystal
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what does this mean in a math context

lucid tree
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u integrate using

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partial fraction decomp

sonic crystal
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but x^2 - 1 cant be factored right

lucid tree
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it can

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(x-1)(x+1)

sonic crystal
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o

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i mustv been thinking of like the other one then

lucid tree
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x^2+1 can be factored using complex numberds

sonic crystal
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too scary

lucid tree
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yeah

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it is enough to translate by the vector [2,0], i.e. a parallel shift to rotate the graph around the line x = 0, i.e. the Oy axis, etc

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hey i might be stupid, but im on question 3. like i know the area of a triangle A=l * h/2. but how am i to substitute it with e??

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mystic zenith
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idk, i dont understand it from the question

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that's a stylish l to denote each side length

mystic zenith
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ya. but how does that help me when using area formula

pseudo knot
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area of equilateral triangle is √3a^2/4

mystic zenith
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?

fallen vigil
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where did e come from

mystic zenith
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how so i though it was base x height/2

pseudo knot
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you can get to that result by drawing a height line in a triangle

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and then using pythagores formula

mystic zenith
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Oh i use pythagoras

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yes

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wait how??

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where does 3 come from?

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like this?

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help with this combinatorics question?
I'm using google translate so might have some issues with the translation, on 1 I got $\binom{16}{8}$, and on 2 I got $16\cdot15\cdot \binom{14}{8}$ but I have no idea how to even start tackle 3, it seems really hard

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horizon2.0

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just to clarify, the unit includes 10 cells, two of those, the "special cells" the order does matter, while in the other 8 the order does not matter, and the hacker is said to have different "special cells", and that 4 out of the 8 normal cells are exactly like the engineer 8 cells

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can I have help with this?

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prime cosmos
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im just stuck on one section

lucid tree
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ur first step is to take the difference of the sequence twice

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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i found the difference between 10, 21, 38, 61

lucid tree
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and 90 too

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what is ur new resulting sequence

prime cosmos
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so the constant difference is +6

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and do I need to halve that

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so its 3n^2

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then im stuck after that

lucid tree
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okay so u have the coefficient of a, good

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now u get 3n^2+bn+c = f(n)

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but notice how u have 5 data points?

prime cosmos
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whats bn + c

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and whats f(n)

lucid tree
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its like

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ax^2+bx+c

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there is a quadratic term, a linear term, and a constant term

prime cosmos
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thats the formula

lucid tree
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yes

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so a generic quadratic sequence would have the formula an^2+bn+c

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right?

prime cosmos
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ok

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are u substituting n for x right?

lucid tree
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yeah n and x, it doesnt matter

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but what matters is

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we know the value of a

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u jus found it

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a=3

prime cosmos
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ok

lucid tree
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so we get 3n^2+bn+c=our sequence

prime cosmos
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3n^2 +bn +c

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yes

lucid tree
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now when n=1

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what is the sequence value?

prime cosmos
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9

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3^2

lucid tree
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nooo

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from the given data

prime cosmos
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ohh

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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so

lucid tree
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whats the first term

prime cosmos
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10?

lucid tree
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yups!

prime cosmos
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so 3(10)^2

lucid tree
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so n=1
3(1^2)+b(1)+c=10

prime cosmos
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oh

lucid tree
lucid tree
prime cosmos
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i was watching this video

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and it didn't have this step

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lemme show u

lucid tree
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its what we call systems of equations

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In this video we look at quadratic sequences, and how to find the nth term for them. In quadratic sequences, the first difference changes every time. So instead, we look at the second differences. If the second difference is constant, the sequence is quadratic. This means the nth term rule contains an n-squared term. For the sequence 5, 9, 15, 2...

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u can skip to 1:55

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u see this part on the video

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is whats confusing me

lucid tree
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they r doing it differently

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but its a correct method too

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but i think u should consider my algebraic method instead

prime cosmos
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isn't that way more easy to understand kina

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ok

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its just kinda hard to understand over message

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its fine tho

lucid tree
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3+ b + c = 10

lucid tree
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why 103?

prime cosmos
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accident

lucid tree
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oh

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so thats ur first equation

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now lets take n=2

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try solving the sequence for n=2 similarly

prime cosmos
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so for the first equation

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3(1)^2

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then the next is

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3(2)^2

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=12

lucid tree
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nooo

lucid tree
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have u done functions in ur class yet?

prime cosmos
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no

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thats why im doing it

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nw

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now

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ive got a test tomorrow

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lmao

lucid tree
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okay so we know that 3+b+c=10 right based on the given data

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what did we do to get this equation?

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we let n=1

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now at n=2, the sequence is equal to 21

prime cosmos
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yes

lucid tree
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so 3(2)^2+b(2)+c=21

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what does that simplify to?

prime cosmos
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ok wait a sec

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the part thats confusing me is 3 + b + c = 10

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like the b's and c's

lucid tree
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have u done quadratic equations before?

prime cosmos
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no

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that's what im saying

lucid tree
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💀

prime cosmos
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idk it that well

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brudda

lucid tree
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you know how u have linear equations right

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y=ax+b

prime cosmos
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quadratic equations using the formula x = -b rootb^2-4ac/2a

lucid tree
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thats the solution to the roots

prime cosmos
lucid tree
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but what about the general form?

prime cosmos
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like is this quadratic equations

lucid tree
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how does a quadratic function look like?

prime cosmos
lucid tree
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yasss

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now u know the value of a by ur difference method

prime cosmos
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so i substitue

lucid tree
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next, we try to find b and c

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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3n^2 + bn + c = 10

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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3n^2 +bn + c = 21

lucid tree
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yupss

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and thats when n=2

prime cosmos
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and so on

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so what do i do next

lucid tree
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well, u have 2 variables so u only need 2 equations

lucid tree
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in terms of b and c

prime cosmos
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3(2)^2 + bn + c = 21

lucid tree
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b also has a n term

prime cosmos
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12+ bn + c =21

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is b not supposed to have a n term

lucid tree
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it is

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so bn = 2b

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for n=2

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right?

prime cosmos
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as a simplified version

lucid tree
lucid tree
prime cosmos
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wdym

lucid tree
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is right

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BUT

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u didnt evaluate it for bn

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whats bn if n=2?

prime cosmos
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2b?

lucid tree
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yess

prime cosmos
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soo

lucid tree
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jus a side question not related, whats bn if n=19

prime cosmos
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12 + 2b + c = 21

lucid tree
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yup

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u got it

prime cosmos
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12 + 2b + c = 21

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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how many do i do

lucid tree
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12+2b+c=21
3+b+c=10

lucid tree
prime cosmos
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only two?

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alwasy

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yes

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for quadratic sequences, yes

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yes

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solve for b and c then from those equations

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ok wait a sec

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ok

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so i substitute n for 1 as my first equation

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then n for 2 as my second equation

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yup

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1st EQUATION

lucid tree
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yeah

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2nd EQUATION

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yeah

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SIMULATANEOUS EQUATION

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i don't get how this answers the question tho

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u need a general sequence an^2+bn+c

lucid tree
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in the second line

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ur c value should be 5

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16+c=21

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oh sorry mistake

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so now u have 3n^2+2n+5=ur sequence

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thats it

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u r done

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no way

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is that right

lucid tree
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yups

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try inputting n=3 and see what u get

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sub in n=3

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=38

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Ohh

lucid tree
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see

prime cosmos
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i see how it works now

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yups

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so how come i only need to use the first two equations

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u can use any 2 equations

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like how come i don't substitue 3=n

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if u have enough data, u could use n=3 and n=5

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or n=1 or n=2

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oh i see

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but u only need 2 equations, thats whats important

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but its simple to do just n=1 and n=2

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like its easier

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yups

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wow

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thanks so much brop

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np

prime cosmos
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u really helped me out

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i appreciate it

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how many marks do u think this question would be

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4 marks

prime cosmos
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because theres alot more working out than i expected

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ok cooll

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thanks alot again

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have a good day

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u too!

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uh

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can u type .closed

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i gotchu

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okay thanks

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What did I do wrong here? Or how do I solve it correctly?

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i can't quite tell but does it help to point out that $\f{\sqrt2}2 = \f1{\sqrt2}$?

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hayley!

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I think I see my mistake. it should be |sin(x/2)| and then sign(...) and because of cos being alternately it's -1/√2 for 0^- and 1/√2 for 0^+ right?

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I need help with this maths problem:

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time = distance/speed

plucky mountain
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I tried working it out with that formula in mind but I was still stumped on this question for half an hour

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you have two equations

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one for going to his house

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one for coming back

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and also two unknows, the distance and the time

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so u can find both variables out by isolating one variable and plugging into the other equation

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What are the two unknown?

hearty vale
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the distance and the time

plucky mountain
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Thanks

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so i have been doing this problem and i get it for the most part but my answer is slightly different because of a negative

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i found this on photo math so i am just curious as to why it adds a negative in this case

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for inside the integral

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any help is appreciated thank you

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when you make the substitution t = cos(x), what is the derivative of that?

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solution

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how do I find laplace transform of 2u dot + u

tulip coyote
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Linearity and the way that Laplace transforms act on derivatives, no?

half forum
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like I am not sure how to get the laplace transform

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of the lhs

tulip coyote
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"the same way you transformed the right hand side" [in particular, u dot gets transformed to sL(u) - u(0)]

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Notice you have u(0) = 0 (wait is u a given function here?)

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I don't get what u mean

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How did you do this?

half forum
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just laplace transform

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wdym

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The same applies to $\mathcal{L}(2\dot{u} + u) = 2\mathcal{L}(\dot{u}) + \mathcal{L}(u)$

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@tulip coyote

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Do the exact same steps that you did with y, but replace y with u

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You almost certainly should be happy that $\mathcal{L}(\dot{u}) = s\mathcal{L}(u) - u(0)$ as you would if it were $y$

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@tulip coyote

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so laplace transform of a unit step function is 1/s

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correcto ?