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Prove by contradiction, that there is no least positive rational number
I sort of know how to do it, but what would be the proper notation for that
I had the idea that any positive rational number divided by an integer greater than 1 (e.g. 2) would produce a smaller number so we could go on forever
So the only thing im having tousle with is the notation
sounds good
You basically have it exactly like that
Assume there is some least positive rational number p
show p/2 is rational and 0<p/2<p and that's your contradiction
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To be honest, I don't know where to start with this problem
If anyone can give me a hint
Wouldn't this be the union of rational numbers?
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idk where to start
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i got a+b=3 but dont know what to do after that
they are touching, meaning their tangent at x=1 must also have the same gradient
in other words, you also need to calculate f'(1) = g'(1)
you also have to constrain f(1) = g(1) = 3
ohhhh
got it thanks
yup, thats how he got a + b = 3
oh i missed that sorry
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What do you think about task number 11?
I personally think that I have no idea how to solve it, so suggestions?
use S_n - S_n-1 = a_n
Oh thank you I will give it a try
not corret
?
(Sn - Sn-1) /n
that is correct An
its not the same a_n
Look at {An}
there is k *Ak
so need /n
.
please read the messages
and i suggest deleting your messages as well
I got a_20=a_n
oh no
smth wrong
Sn - Sn-1?
Yes
Sn - Sn-1 = ?
a_n
yes
Sn-1 = (n-1)^2 + 2(n-1) ?
one sec
How did you get that
what
no
we're letting S_n = a_1 + 2a_2 + ... + na_n
so you can't use that formula
right?
yes
oh no
you're using wrong formula
I see
That formula means 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n = n(n+1)/2
But we're letting S_n = a_1 + 2a_2 + ... + na_n
so?
which is S_n = left hand side
What will be S_n-1?
If we subtract S_20-S_19=a_n?
no
Let's see again
S_20 = a_1 + 2a_2 + 3a_3 + ... + 19a_19 + 20a_20
S_19 = a_1 + 2a_2 + 3a_3 + ... + 19a_19
20a_20
yes
there we go
but on the other way
S_20 = 20^2 + 2*20
you can compute that
and S_19 = 19^2 + 2*19
S_20-S_19=20a_20
yes
because of the given equality
Ah I get it now
yay
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can someone help me oslve this
Simplify x, then replace in x² - 2ax
Can you show?
That's not really helpful I think
i squared both sides
Rationalize is a better option
it would be better if u multiply and divide with conjugate
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can anyone see the solution here?
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Is this supposed to be a pattern recognition problem, or do you have a formula somewhere?
Because I'm not seeing a pattern
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are there any high school problems here
like bro im in eighth grade 1tf is happening
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Ok so big question
we have the ODE y'' + 2y' + y = 0
I want to find power sereis solutinos
we try
$y(x) = \sum_{n=0}a_nx^n$
Mortta
As our trial
Doing that i got
We than just got the answer using general solution of ODE
and we got
y = C1e^-x + xC2e^-x
So how tf do i do this:
https://gyazo.com/4337ad33e184ce7bbea65ece3d89b1f6
idk what to do
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im trying to proof this but i get stuck with just cosines, using cubic sum, what else can i try
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Hi can I get help with c
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$\int \frac{\arctan\left(x\right)}{\left(1+x\right)^3}dx$
Why am. I here
Why am. I here
*very
I have no idea but an integration by parts might make sense
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does any1 happen to have a counter example for this...
i know its false but cant seem to find a ceg ughhhh
$f(x) = 6x^3 \ f(x) = 3x\times 2x^2 \ f(x) = 6x\times x^2$
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this is wht happens when u overthink.... thank you so much ;-;
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Can someone help me with this question pls
But I don’t want the actual answer, I just need some help
I don’t know where to start
idk if it's right but i might be able to get you pointed in the right direction
since p, q, r, s, t are consecutive positive integrs
using another integer n (n≧3)
we can write it as
p=n-2
q=n-1
r=n
s=n+1
t=n+2
p+q+r+s+t=5n
q+r+s=3n
all we have to do now is find an integer n so that 5n is a perfect cube and 3n is a perfect square
I did find one that works, just not too sure if it's the smallest
Why can’t we set p=n, q=n+1, r=n+2 and so on
your idea is totally valid
but if we do n, n+1, n+2, n+3, m+4
when we add p+q+r+s+t it becomes 5n+10
q+r+s becomes 3n+6
and it makes it harder to check if it's a perfect cube/square
because of the +3 and the +5 at the end
Wouldn’t it be 5n+10
But what’s wrong with that
We're being asked for the value of R
and it's wiser to set n as R so we don't have to do any tinkering later
Oh ye sry
also doing it like I did makes it so both p+q+r+s+t and q+r+s are in* multiplication form only*
sorry if what I'm saying is not making sense
And as r is a positive integer n can’t be negative meaning that n can’t be any smaller negative number
So we need to find what is the least value that p can be
But for that we need p to be smaller but also pqrst added together should give u a perfect cube
So p<q<r<s<t
As they r consecutive
I did it as
p=n-2
q=n-1
r=n
s=n+1
t=n+2
and if we find the smallest n
p should be the smallest as well
since p is 2 less than r
yes
So what’s next
Using this new way to write p, q, r, s, t
If you add p, q, r, s, t
p+q+r+s+t=
n-2
+n-1
+n
+n+1
+n+2
which equals to 5n
and q+r+s=
n-1
+n
+n+1
which equals to 3n
Ye
Now all you have to do
is find the smallest n
so that 5n becomes a perfect cube
and 3n becomes a perfect square
K lemme try
It’s ok
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@tribal jasper have a look at this similar type of question
answer:
can we not do it this way?
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whats your question?
^^^
i have seen that. and i have seen that you posted also the solution. so i ask you again, whats your question?
wtf? what is this?
and i never posted any solution related to this quesiton^^^
this is the solution for a similar type of question
explain the difference.
?
you say its a similar example. i cant see a dfiference.
i know that this question looks very similar, but this quesiton did not say that the consecutive positive integers are in ascending order
^^^
This is the actual question that i need help with
you have 5 conesecutive positive numbers in increasing order.
The solution you posted starts with:
in my world does this mean p,q,r,s,t are increasing. exactly what you need.
but i also have some doubts in the solution that i posted
so again: what is your question? what are your doubts in the solution?
i don't understand this part
q+r+s = 3r - right?
no i get this part
q+r+s = 3r, this is a perfect square and its divisible by 3. so you need an even count of the prime factor 3. one comes from 3, and - to be even - and odd count must come from r. -> 3^(2n+1) divides r.
and the same with 5.
what exactly?
"so you need an even count of the prime factor 3. one comes from 3, and - to be even - and odd count must come from r. -> 3^(2n+1) divides r."
is 3 times 7 a perfect square?
no
why not?
cuz 3*7=21 and sqr root of 21 is not an integer
what do you have to change/to add that it becomes a perfect square?
what becomes perfect sqr
3 times (7x) should be a perfect square.
what has x to be?
in a minimal version.
if a perfect sqare is divisible by a primefactor, it has to be divisible by primefactor^2. so here it si divisible by 3, so it must be divisible by 9.
(3r) is divisible by 3 and it is a perfect square, so r must be divisible by 3.
ye
what if r is divisible by 9? is that possible?
i don't think so
if r is divisible by 9 -> (3r) is divisible by 27, as (3r) is a perfect square, it must be divisible by 81. -> r must by divisible by 27. so if r is divisible by 9, r has to be divisible by 27.
oh ye 9(3r)=27r
so, you know if 3^(2n) divides r, 3^(2n+1) must divde 3.
and at the end its still this argument.
and this is still the solution for your example.
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Okay, I evaluated R'(3)
not exactly sure how to interpret it, or put it into words exactly
whats the ' mean
R'(3) = 1150, so i said "that's the rate of revenue change when increasing the price 3 times"
Prime. Derivative of the original function
i have no clue what that menas
then why dafuq are u here goofy
It's basically the rate your revenue will change based on how many customers you lose
Sorry based on the price increase
But it works the same either way
Alr so my explanation is correct
Nope, it's how much your revenue will change if you increase your price by 7.50
X is the amount of 2.50$ increments
Ahh so R'(3) tells us that the revenue will increase by $1150 with 3 price increases?
Yeah
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I don't need hlep figuring out the equation just understanding math lingo, what does the R -> R thing mean?
I know that fancy R is ment to represent real numbers but what does the arrow mean?
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yes?
it means f is a function with domain and codomain R
yes
yea R is the set of real numbers
range is sometimes used to mean codomain
Range is a subset of co-domain
mathematicians have no imagination fr
can't think of a simpler way to show this
so anyways
if it showed it like R -> Z, does that mean Z is the codomain of R?
codomain of the function you would say
the function f
ok like yea i understand how it could seem kinda pointless to have a codomain at all
but it matters when you want to for example compose functions together
do you mind providing an example of what you mean?
like to describe when it makes sense to compose functions
ohh
so let me just straighten the definition out for me to understand:
Domain is all the numbers that can go into the function
the codomain is all the numbers that can come out of the function
the range is the numbers that the domain has taken?
I am not sure how to explain it but
the codomain is like every single outcome from the domain but the range only takes a few of them from the codomain
the codomain is just something you define when you define the function
depends what possible outcomes means
the range is the set of outputs you actually get from passing elements through the function
then the codomain is the set of possible outputs of passing hypothetical elements through a function?
ok nvm
so to loop back to the original
how to I say R -> Z
like how we call > 'greater than' do u understand?
that doesn't make much sense by itself
f: R -> Z means f is a function with domain R and codomain Z
when you do this
that makes sense now
you can then ask questions like, is the range (or image) of the function equal to its codomain?
I see
in other words do you hit everything in the codomain when you pass elements through f
I understand now, thank you for the help
yw
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how do i make my casio calculator give answers in surd form
my friends have similar calculators and have their answers in surd form
idk ifmy calculators just old but its literally the same calculator
surely someone knows
that'd prolly be a question for the company who made your calculator
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Numbers (a), (b), (c), (\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}) are integers. Are all three numbers (\frac{ab}{c}), (\frac{ac}{b}), (\frac{bc}{a}) necessarily integers?
kitten
yes
integer + integer = integer
oh wait
It's only given that sum is integer
? why explain
woah
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I think not necessarily think of roots of a polynomial
a polynomial of degree 3 with coefficients integers here doesn't mean all his roots are integers
Also last number is integer
rational root theorem can help you
$\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}$
u missed the
kitten
dollars
?
product is an integer
and ?
sum is also an integer
It doesn't imply that
contradict?
$1/3*6=2$
example
phoestaclies
okay
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the sum as well as product is an integer
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It was already 15 mins
calm I'll help you
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if the sum and product of the three numbers is an integer then I believe those 3 numbers must be an integer?(wrt question)
Let ab = x, bc = y, ac = z
Yea and that's why we can't say that it's integer if product is integer...
why cant you?
product is abc
a,b and c are integers
The task needs another proof
You don't even help
Roman_Garland
$\sqrt 2 - \sqrt 2 + 0 = 0$ and the product is 0
root2 isnt integer
you didn't precise this in your question
and 0 isnt valid
you want to prove that it's integer so affirm that it's integer is contradictory
Roman_Garland
4 - sqrt(3), 4+sqrt(3), 1
SO?
root3 is an integer?
it's not related to question
we are given that a, b, c and $\frac{ab}{c} + \frac{ac}{b} + \frac{bc}{a}$ are integers
kitten
yes
it's different
but we aren
't given that like ab/c is integer, we need this to prove
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Hello how do u do (ii)?
,rccw
remember that [
\m\sin{a-b} =\m\sin a \m\cos b -\m\cos a\m\sin b
]
oh ya then how do u get it to tanx?
well like
what does tanx represent in terms of the sides of a right angle, if you remember?
like opp/adj?
yeah!
so tanx = opp/adj
now like use Pythagorean theorem to find the hypotenuse
you know the opposite and adjacent
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My prof
is wrong
i subbed in r0 into the top
you get positive epislon for binding energy
not negative
he's asking what is this?
he is wrrong
should be positive correct
binding energy is a neg quantity
coz the minus cancel eachother
yeah
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- Find the volume of the solid generated when the region under the curve $y=\frac{1}{\left(x^{2}-1\right)}\ \left{\ 2\le x\le3\right}$ is rotated about the line $x=-2$
water beam
hmm do u have the integral expression
i dont remember volumes of revolution that r not at the x or y axis 😭
i thought you were well versed in this area 
last time i touched calc was 2 years ago
what are you doing now?
lin alg
calc is not required in LA at all
u can do a LA course right after learning algebra 2
Oh that’s cool
I’m deciding on what method i should use
hm
cool shape
i think
maybe the radius is 3-x
$V=2\pi\int_{2}^{3}\left(3-x\right)\left(\frac{1}{x^{2}-1}\right)dx$
water beam
im thinkin its this
what does this mean in a math context
but x^2 - 1 cant be factored right
x^2+1 can be factored using complex numberds
too scary
yeah
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it is enough to translate by the vector [2,0], i.e. a parallel shift to rotate the graph around the line x = 0, i.e. the Oy axis, etc
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hey i might be stupid, but im on question 3. like i know the area of a triangle A=l * h/2. but how am i to substitute it with e??
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where's e?
idk, i dont understand it from the question
that's a stylish l to denote each side length
ya. but how does that help me when using area formula
area of equilateral triangle is √3a^2/4
?
where did e come from
how so i though it was base x height/2
you can get to that result by drawing a height line in a triangle
and then using pythagores formula
Oh i use pythagoras
yes
yes
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help with this combinatorics question?
I'm using google translate so might have some issues with the translation, on 1 I got $\binom{16}{8}$, and on 2 I got $16\cdot15\cdot \binom{14}{8}$ but I have no idea how to even start tackle 3, it seems really hard
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can I have help with this?
quadratic sequences are of the form
an^2+bn+c
im just stuck on one section
ur first step is to take the difference of the sequence twice
what section?
i found the difference between 10, 21, 38, 61
so the constant difference is +6
and do I need to halve that
so its 3n^2
then im stuck after that
okay so u have the coefficient of a, good
now u get 3n^2+bn+c = f(n)
but notice how u have 5 data points?
do u know what a quadratic is?
its like
ax^2+bx+c
there is a quadratic term, a linear term, and a constant term
thats the formula
yeah n and x, it doesnt matter
but what matters is
we know the value of a
u jus found it
a=3
ok
so we get 3n^2+bn+c=our sequence
ohh
here
so
whats the first term
10?
yups!
so 3(10)^2
so n=1
3(1^2)+b(1)+c=10
oh
n is the term u take
so this simplifies to?
its what we call systems of equations
In this video we look at quadratic sequences, and how to find the nth term for them. In quadratic sequences, the first difference changes every time. So instead, we look at the second differences. If the second difference is constant, the sequence is quadratic. This means the nth term rule contains an n-squared term. For the sequence 5, 9, 15, 2...
u can skip to 1:55
u see this part on the video
is whats confusing me
they r doing it differently
but its a correct method too
but i think u should consider my algebraic method instead
isn't that way more easy to understand kina
ok
its just kinda hard to understand over message
its fine tho
okay so what does this simplify to?
3+ b + c = 10
why 103?
accident
oh
so thats ur first equation
now lets take n=2
try solving the sequence for n=2 similarly
nooo
this is ur first equation
have u done functions in ur class yet?
okay so we know that 3+b+c=10 right based on the given data
what did we do to get this equation?
we let n=1
now at n=2, the sequence is equal to 21
yes
have u done quadratic equations before?
💀
quadratic equations using the formula x = -b rootb^2-4ac/2a
thats the solution to the roots
but what about the general form?
like is this quadratic equations
how does a quadratic function look like?
so i substitue
next, we try to find b and c
it shouldnt be equal to 0 always btw
3n^2 + bn + c = 10
yes but thats ONLY when n=1
3n^2 +bn + c = 21
well, u have 2 variables so u only need 2 equations
3(2)^2 + bn + c = 21
b also has a n term
so this is right
as a simplified version
its supposed to have an n term
this
wdym
2b?
yess
soo
jus a side question not related, whats bn if n=19
12 + 2b + c = 21
19b
12 + 2b + c = 21
thats ur second equation
how many do i do
12+2b+c=21
3+b+c=10
2
have u solved simultaneous equations before?
yes
solve for b and c then from those equations
ok wait a sec
ok
so i substitute n for 1 as my first equation
then n for 2 as my second equation
yup
1st EQUATION
yeah
2nd EQUATION
yeah
u need a general sequence an^2+bn+c
now find c
eh how did u get 12 on the RHS
in the second line
ur c value should be 5
16+c=21
wdym?
see
i see how it works now
yups
so how come i only need to use the first two equations
u can use any 2 equations
like how come i don't substitue 3=n
oh i see
but u only need 2 equations, thats whats important
yups
np
u really helped me out
i appreciate it
how many marks do u think this question would be
4 marks
because theres alot more working out than i expected
ok cooll
thanks alot again
have a good day
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i gotchu
okay thanks
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What did I do wrong here? Or how do I solve it correctly?
i can't quite tell but does it help to point out that $\f{\sqrt2}2 = \f1{\sqrt2}$?
hayley!
I think I see my mistake. it should be |sin(x/2)| and then sign(...) and because of cos being alternately it's -1/√2 for 0^- and 1/√2 for 0^+ right?
And yes it helped, that you point that out haha
Thanks
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I need help with this maths problem:
time = distance/speed
I tried working it out with that formula in mind but I was still stumped on this question for half an hour
you have two equations
one for going to his house
one for coming back
and also two unknows, the distance and the time
so u can find both variables out by isolating one variable and plugging into the other equation
What are the two unknown?
the distance and the time
Thanks
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so i have been doing this problem and i get it for the most part but my answer is slightly different because of a negative
i found this on photo math so i am just curious as to why it adds a negative in this case
for inside the integral
any help is appreciated thank you
when you make the substitution t = cos(x), what is the derivative of that?
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Linearity and the way that Laplace transforms act on derivatives, no?
"the same way you transformed the right hand side" [in particular, u dot gets transformed to sL(u) - u(0)]
Notice you have u(0) = 0 (wait is u a given function here?)
I don't get what u mean
How did you do this?
The same applies to $\mathcal{L}(2\dot{u} + u) = 2\mathcal{L}(\dot{u}) + \mathcal{L}(u)$
@tulip coyote
Do the exact same steps that you did with y, but replace y with u
You almost certainly should be happy that $\mathcal{L}(\dot{u}) = s\mathcal{L}(u) - u(0)$ as you would if it were $y$
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