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formal trail
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plug in your function for f(x) then use any limit solving techniques you can to simplify and take the limit

faint rock
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I don't fully understand what you mean, the only function I have is f(x)=2x-5

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At first i thought that f(x+) became 2x-5+2h-5 but that doesn't seem to be the case

formal trail
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f(x+h) means substitute (x + h) for every instance of x

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similarly to how f(2) means substitute 2 for every instance of x

faint rock
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Okay I think I understand what you mean, in this case it would then become 2(x+h)-5?

formal trail
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yes

faint rock
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Alright, thank you so much man, have a great day 🙂

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I retried the problem and got it incorrect- why

odd tinsel
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I suspect something to do with revolution of y axis and x given bounds, (which would then be y- bounds of 8, 10) but that answer is also incorrect

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quiet garden
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How do I find these

odd tinsel
quiet garden
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For both?

odd tinsel
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yeah, I havent been in trig or whatever for years but from what I remember the ‘-‘ in your 5pi/4 is indicating that you are ‘going back’, so you look where 5pi/4 is on the unit circle and you can see it should terminate at -sqrt2/sqrt2 for both x,y

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odd tinsel
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thats your t, yes

quiet garden
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Mine has - in front tho

odd tinsel
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right, I believe that indicates that its going backwards, idr

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Maybe wait until a trig specialist comes but thats what I recall

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Its either that or you negate -5pi/4 from the start of the unit circle and see what the new position is

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So 360-225*

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idr tho irs been years

quiet garden
odd tinsel
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yeah idk

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wait 15mins from your post and then ping Helpers

quiet garden
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I changed it to - in the x coordinate and it worked

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Further

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desert juniper
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How do I simplify this

cerulean igloo
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ln(a)-ln(b)=ln(a/b)

desert juniper
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I’m looking to solve in terms of v

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And also, if ln(x)=y, then x=e^y

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Thanks

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I'm trying to make a formula where I put in two variables and get a third variable out so like r*p=v but I want r to have more importance but v has to be between 0 and 100 and I'm just going in circles

zenith oxide
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I should clarify

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R is an unknown number from 1 to 10 inclusive
P is an unknown number from 1 to 10 inclusive
And v is an unknown number from 1 to 100 inclusive

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And when I say r should have more important I mean like
r=5 p=10 leads to a larger number than r=10 and p = 5

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If r = 5 it's worth more than if p = 5

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Sorry if that doesn't make sense I'm a bit "impaired"

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sly quest
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Quick question. Why can you let a variable be equal to sine or cosine of a different variable? Doesnt that only output values between -1 and 1?

tranquil pine
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in what context?

rustic sinew
manic herald
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well then that variable will only take on values between -1 and 1

sly quest
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I was integrating sqrt(a^2 - x^2) where it is suggested to let x = asinb

sly quest
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Am I not integrating x generally?

tranquil pine
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if you let x = asinb then x will take values between -a and a and thats when the square root is defined

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if x was any other value the output wouldnt be a real number

sly quest
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Sorry im not really understanding. Let's say a is 16. Then I can only make such substitution as long as x is between negative and positive 16?

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Ooooooohh

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I got that

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I have no idea how to close a room lol

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.close 🙂

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Thx

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placid laurel
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I did the question but my book doesnt have answers

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so it would be lit if someone could solve this and lmk when they got

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I got root 12

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nvm ig

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radiant reef
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how do you find area under curve for parametric?

vital crag
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solve for y in terms of x

radiant reef
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cos^-1(x/2) = t?

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then do i plug it into the y equation

vital crag
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use pythagorean theorem

radiant reef
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where

vital crag
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$\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x = 1$

soft zealotBOT
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riemann

radiant reef
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do i just add them together then

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cos^2(t) + sin^2(t) = (x^2)/4 + y/3?

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im kinda confused tho like why can i just add them together

tulip coyote
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[as an aside, there is another way, in that you can notice what the curve looks like, and use parametric integration]

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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and i could just add them?

tulip coyote
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so having (x/2)^2 gets you cos^2(t) and y/3 = sin^2(t), so adding those gets you 1

radiant reef
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ah yes

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then solve for y

tulip coyote
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Yep, then that one you can e.g. integrate directly happyCat

radiant reef
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area formula?

tulip coyote
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catThink do you have one in mind?

radiant reef
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A = int from a to b (top-bottom)

tulip coyote
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Yep yep happyCat that's it!

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Worth sketching the curve out too!

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radiant reef
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radiant reef
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if you didn't know what it looked like, would you just assumed the second ones is x-axis

tulip coyote
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Well it might depend on the curve I think, but something like this, seeing they say "area under the curve", it's safe to assume the bottom is just the x axis

radiant reef
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ohhh okay

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if they give you parametrics where one is like sin^2t or cos^2t and then sint or cost, is it safe to just assume you can use pythagorean and add them together

tulip coyote
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Yea the idea is that you want to try to make use of trig identities where you can (maybe alongside some restrictions on t) to find an explicit equation
So say something like x = sin(t), y = sin(2t) for t between -pi/2 and pi/2, you could use double angle formula and then the fact that for those values that cos(t) = sqrt{1 - sin^2(t)} to get y = 2x * sqrt{1 - x^2}

radiant reef
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ahhh i get it

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i think i messed up somewhere

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😭

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i plugged in 0 and pi for a and b in the integral

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am i supposed to plug it into x and y values

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i realized its t

tulip coyote
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You want the limits as x values, so find the corresponding x values to those happyCat

radiant reef
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ohhh right

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so 2 and -2

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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so would it be a negative integral then since -2 or x(pi) is supposed to be on the bottom?

tulip coyote
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Well you want -2 at the bottom and 2 at the top

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You want the lower x value for the bottom and the higher one as the top

radiant reef
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yeah but like

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pi > 0

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but the value when plugged into x

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is like -2 and 2

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like for ftc before u plug it into u it could be like int from 2 to 3

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but after plugging into u its like from -1 to -5

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and then u have to turn integral into negative to flip the values?

tulip coyote
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Note that for the integral here, you already want the smaller x value as the bottom limit and the higher one as the top limit

tulip coyote
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You'd want to find the integral $\int_{-2}^2 \frac34\pqty{4 - x^2} \dd x$, right?

soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

radiant reef
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yeah

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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yeah okay

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thank u

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radiant reef
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its equal to 8?

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units^2

tulip coyote
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,w int (3/4) * (4 - x^2), x from -2 to 2

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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thanks

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i think i have another question i'll need help with

tulip coyote
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Sure thing SCgoodjob2

radiant reef
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i missed the lesson on this one, but i understand how to find dy/dx

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but idk how to find the point

tulip coyote
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I mean, if they give you theta, you can find what r is from there

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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im still working on it

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sorry 😭

tulip coyote
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Don't worry catlove thought you already had it, take your time OathLove

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[and ping me when you're done! SCgoodjob2]

radiant reef
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@tulip coyote

tulip coyote
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Looking good to me! OathLove

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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yes

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how would you find points?

tulip coyote
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As in the radius r given the theta, or the x and y coordinates?

radiant reef
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it says to find the equation of the line tangent to the polar

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so how would i find the points for the equation

tulip coyote
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Ohhh, I see catThumbsUp

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Do they want it in polar form or Cartesian form?

radiant reef
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i don't know

tulip coyote
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catThink if they want it in polar form, I'd probably mess it up tbh catThimc

radiant reef
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maybe cartesian form?

tulip coyote
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I would guess it's polar form they want it in RooThink but if Cartesian, then for that one you just know that when theta is 3pi/2, that r is 6pi and from there you can find x and y

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You have dy/dx, the gradient from there, so line equation should be fine from there

radiant reef
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ohhh so plug the theta into x and y equation i set

tulip coyote
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Yep happyCat

radiant reef
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so (0, -6pi)

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y+6pi = -2/3pi x

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ok

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i have one more sorry 😭

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do i just integrate this?

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to find position

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ftc

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its supposed to say dx/dt = sqrt(t^2 + 3t + 1)

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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can use a calculator

tulip coyote
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In theory integrating the dx/dt and dy/dt would be fine

tulip coyote
radiant reef
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should i integrate them separately

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like integrate dx/dt from 0 to 2 = x(2) - x(0)

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and do the same for the y

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to get the position coord?

tulip coyote
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That would work out at least theoretically sadCatThumbsUp worth trying!

radiant reef
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okk

tulip coyote
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Just so it's neater for me haha, $\dv{x}{t} = \sqrt{t^2 + 3t + 1}$ and $\dv{y}{t} = e^{t^2 - 1}$

soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

radiant reef
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@tulip coyote

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this is what I got

tulip coyote
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Interesting they give it like this, would have expected something a bit nicer and exact sadcat

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But otherwise is that all good? OathLove

radiant reef
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thank you SO SO MUCH

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i understand everything sm better now

tulip coyote
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Perfect happyCat alsooo do you want that parametric integration thingy explained too? catlove

radiant reef
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yes sure

tulip coyote
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Cool cool, so basically the idea for parametric integration is that it's basically like doing a substitution, you have that (ignoring limits for a second) $\int y \dd x = \int y \dv{x}{t} \dd t$

soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

tulip coyote
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The first integral, you have the limits being in increasing order of x

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The second one, the limits correspond with the t values that get you those

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So going back to our example, $x = 2\cos(t)$ and $y = 3\sin^2(t)$, then that is basically saying (putting the limits back in)
[
\int_{-2}^2 y \dd x = \int_{\pi}^0 d \dv{x}{t} \dd t = \int_{\pi}^0 3\sin^2(t) \cdot -2\sin(t) \dd t
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soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

tulip coyote
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(with the pi being at the bottom because that's what corresponds to the smaller x value, so it looks "the wrong way around", if that makes any sense and I've explained it properly?)

radiant reef
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uhhhh

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yes

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because pi is supposed to be larger than 0

tulip coyote
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Basically you know like with some substitutions, where if you put them in, like the sizes of the limits change

dusky lily
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how are u getting the bot to do that

tulip coyote
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So like if you had some integral, say $\int_0^1 f(x) \dd x$, if you chose (just for demonstration purposes) $u = 1 - x$, that when $x=0$ you have $u= 1$, and when $x=1$ you have $u = 0$, so then that gets you
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\int_0^1 f(x) \dd x = \int_1^0 -f(u) \dd u
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soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

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dusky lily
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thanks

radiant reef
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radiant reef
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ohhhh okay

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i think 0 to pi

tulip coyote
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Of course it's kinda like the other way around in that you have the "substitution integral" first, so in general you want to check the order of the limits and then order them according to that(!)

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Anyways, back to the above for a moment-

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Of course, with a bit of manipulation and making use of that negative, that integral is $\int_0^{\pi} 6\sin^3(t) \dd t$, you can then use e.g. power reducing to get that as
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\frac64 \int_0^{\pi} 3\sin(t) - \sin(3t) \dd t
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and then evaluating that should hopefully get the same thing, evaluating $\frac12 \pqty{-9\cos(t) + \cos(3t)}$ between 0 and $\pi$

soft zealotBOT
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@tulip coyote

tulip coyote
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Of course, I'm gonna be lazy and just check with the bot lolDog

radiant reef
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wait

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ok now im a bit confused

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where did sin 3t come from

tulip coyote
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,w int 6sin^3(t), t from 0 to pi

tulip coyote
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And it does work out to the same thing happyCat

radiant reef
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ohhhh

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interesting

tulip coyote
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And I guess it makes a nice example too, cause you can see both ways catGiggle

radiant reef
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yeaaa thank u

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i think i'll stick to pythagorean tho

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its interesting to see the other way

tulip coyote
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Yea, it's just to see another way, and maybe hopefully might be useful if they give you other examples where it's easier to do it like this OathLove

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Hopefully everything was useful! catlove

radiant reef
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it was!!

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thank u so much

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have a good night

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You too LoveYou

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I don’t get it

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coarse badger
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Someone help pls

tardy sigil
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when things are similar

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their ratio is same

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think

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corresponding similar sides

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have equal ratio

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Whats the point of recursive definitions? like ie for addition, how do you typically find them?

vernal monolith
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what kind of recursive definitions?

tranquil pine
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like for addition, multiplication

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exponent

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factorial

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etc

vernal monolith
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you mean how addition is defined in foundational mathematics?

tranquil pine
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maybe? like for multiplication, m * (n + 1 ) = (m * n) + m

worldly vale
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how else would you define it?

tranquil pine
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But like, how do you think of these definitions intuitively

worldly vale
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its capturing the notion of "multiplication is repeated addition"

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intuitively you know m*(n+1) is adding m to itself n+1 times, well that definition is just saying "add it to itself n times" and then add one more m

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and then you follow the tower all the way down and finally use m * 1 = m

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by the time you've reached the bottom you really have just added m to itself n+1 times

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okay thank you so much!

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I’m trying to figure out the relationship between these numbers, the total pot last year was around 1700 and the payouts were as follows:

700 - 41.1%
375 - 22.05%
260 - 15.3%
210 - 12.4%
155 - 9.1 %

Are there any straightforward methods i can use to figure out why these were weighted the way they were?

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fossil geyser
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Those percents seem to be just the straight proportion of the total

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700/1700 = 0.411 = 41.1%

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etc

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In other words, 700 is literally 41.1% of the pot, if the total pot is 1700

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@grim glen

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or are you asking why those specific percentages were used instead of something else?

grim glen
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I cant seem to find a real reason why they were used that way

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Is there a common pattern im missing?

fossil geyser
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I don't think so. It seems pretty arbitrary

grim glen
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Yeah im looking through all other values and it doesnt seem to be based off anything i can see atm

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hey so if I wanna find out if a function is homogeneous, I count the degree of each term, and if they're all equal the equation is homogeneous right? okay so what about trig functions like sin(x), what's the degree of x in this case and what about if x is under a root, will it be 1/2?

tiny gorge
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degree is only defined for polynomials, sin(x) is not a polynomial

dense badge
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so it would have a degree of 0?

tiny gorge
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undefined, i'd say

dense badge
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so the function wouldnt be homogeneous

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right?

tiny gorge
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i don't think so, unless there's some more general definition of homogeneous

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if so, i'm unaware of it

dense badge
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okay what about under a sqrt

tiny gorge
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sqrt is also not a polynomial

hybrid heath
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!original

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well okay

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it wasn't a problem is was just a question

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thank you

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tiny gorge
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yea that looks valid

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sure, why not?

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P(A) = P(A intersect B) + P(A intersect B^c), right?

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by disjoint additivity

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okie so

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y' = e^(x^3) * 3x^2

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wouldn't this mean the derivative is INDEPENDENT of y, meaning that for the slope fields, it shouldn't vary for y?

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And because the derivative isn't symmetrical when you do x & -x, doesn't that mean it shouldn't reflect?

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I got the answer correct (B) BUT IDK WHY

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but it is not the only one

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for example y' = y * 3x^2

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is also satisfied by y=e^(x^3)

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there we go

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wut

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Don't worry about it lol

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sorry : (

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can someone explain how they make this approximation to get to the bottom line?

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write in parameter form an equation for the line (in the plane) determined by : 2x - y = 5.

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I understand why y becomes 2t -5 but why does x become t?

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how does y become 2t-5?

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without x becoming t

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I don’t know but I thought that I was supposed to solve out x and get the answer

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Like why can’t I switch out y to a t and solve for x?

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you can

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it will give you a different parametisation

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Oh okey but is that a valid answer to this question?

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there are multiple parametisations that are valid

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x=t and y=2t-5 is one of them

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X = (5-t)/2?

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yes (with y=t)

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you have to specify both coordinates

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Okay, in my book they only gave the first answer where x=t so I was confused

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"in the room"?

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what does that mean

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The book talks about lines in the room and lines in the plane

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I think the room is when you have three variables

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Is one answer to that question z = 2t + s + 3, x = t and y = s?

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could anyone please give me an idea on how to solve the fifth question in the second part? (integrals aren't allowed in that specific question)

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or you mean the translation of the whole exercice?

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no just translate the relevant stuff

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Where do i request help

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fn+1 - fn <= 0 in [1; e]

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Im not even sure what i+j = k means

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i forgot lol

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its i+j modulo k right? so the remainder when i+j /k?

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if and only if m is prime, can I just translate that to m does not divide by 2

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but that would be saying m is odd

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and not all odd numbers are prime?

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well that doesnt work

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cause 2 is prime

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m=2 also forms a field, a field with two elements (it's pretty easy to show that's a field)

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The idea is that you want to show that along with other ring axioms, you can find an inverse for all the nonzero elements if m is prime

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hint that might help: ||all fields are integral domains||

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@flint perch SCsnuggle

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im still here

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trying to understand how to do this

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As in actually showing the field axioms? OathLove

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yea , this is all i have down rn

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Worth of course noting down the field axioms if you have them

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yup

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Hopefully it's only 8 that you need to think about KannaCuddle (but if you haven't shown the others elsewhere in general, we can do those?)

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Some of these are basically automatic for you anyway happyCat

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sure, Im stuck on this whole thing :(( but a few examples and I'll prob start getting the gist of it

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Awww SChug well I'm not exactly sure how much they actually want you to do

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But for now, let's assume that all of those, with the exception of 8, are true, and that we have m being prime

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Then of course, all the nonzero elements 1, 2, ..., (m - 1), what can we say about them and m?

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if the set is A, there is are two x in A and x =/= 1 or m-1 such that x times x is m-1

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x times b in A

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Not necessarily (in fact you need m to be 1 mod 4, considering m prime, if I recall right)

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you mean like factors of m

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Yep, compare the factors of m and each of the elements 1, 2, ..., (m - 1)

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wait i’ll be back in 15 min

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Alright sure! Ping me when you're back OathLove

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@tulip coyote

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why would you compare factors of m? because m is not in the set. also, you mean like this? for the comparision?

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i’m very lost

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The idea is that you want to work with the knowledge about how each of those and m relate to each other (the word I was looking for was "coprime/relatively prime") - in other words, their greatest common divisor is 1 (does that hint at something you can do from there?)

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Remember that the conclusion we would like is that, say that p is in {1, 2, ..., (m-1)}, you want to be able to find an b such that p * b = 1 (remembering that means that p * b has remainder 1)

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Im so screwed

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i dont know what to do

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the tetbook doesnt have solutions I can look to

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i am so so screwed

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we are just startring this course too

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i dnt know what to do anymore

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sadcat awwww bcaForgiveBeg3

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Well I mean, we can help out as much as possible OathLove

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I thought I was gonna get like half done today😭

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😭 😭 😱

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this course is a nightmare

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Awwww sadcat when do you have to get everything done by? NervousSweat

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It is quite a bit SChug

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no its just for practice

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we have an assignment due in a week ish but I dont understand anything so thats why Im going through the textbook

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this is so stupid, if theres no solutions in the textbook how are you gonna learn? or if you get stuck you cant do anything

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Awww sadcat I see SCGhugkitty

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I guess the expectation is that you'd have either someone helping you, or if they're particularly not great, they expect you should be able to figure it out glassescat

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M. Laczkovich, V. Sos, Real analysis. Foundations and functions of one variable.
Published by Springer, 2015.

tulip coyote
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Like the one we're working on does require a bit of thought and remembering stuff

flint perch
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i went through two weeks of calc content in a day

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linear algebras not too bad as well(I havent started but looks doable)

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but this stuff

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i do like 1 question a day🥲

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KannaCuddle some topics do be a bit like that sadcat

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i dont know how gcd(a,b)=d and ax+by=d is gonna help

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Remember you wanted n to have a corresponding something such that when you multiply by it, you get a remainder of 1 modulo m

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Does that make it any clearer? OathLove

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1 mod m is just m, assuming m != 1 so its a(n) =m...

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would it be possible if you just provide a solution to this

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and possibly a few others and then I can just look it over and fill in gaps where I dont understand

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Well we aren’t really supposed to give solutions catGiggle

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maybe I should drop out of this course, seeing my level of comprehension how would you say my chances are of passing

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I think you’ll be fine, it just might take a bit of time SCcattokiss

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@opal plinth Ive got my final solution

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you don't anymore?

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well i just want to verify that ive got it right

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Number 48. I used a = 2 , b = 1, and c = -1

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pls help

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you are right how?

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Yes

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where you get negative from?

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3/-1 and 2/-1 ?

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what you said about the sign flip?

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swagmafia3000

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oh

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Choice A

granite bane
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left or right

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When k > 0, it goes up. When k < 0, it goes down.

The horizontal shift is a bit trickier to remember. If it's (x + h), it goes left. If it's (x - h), it goes right.

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Question 22

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,rccw

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Can I divide the whole equation by 3

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Yes

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Ok hold on a sec

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Is the 2 squared at the end

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,rccw

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No

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It's just 2

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So the radius of your circle is sqrt(2)

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Oh ok

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Thanks

marsh temple
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Also you didn't complete the square correctly

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Oh

marsh temple
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y^2 + 2y - 1 =/= (y-1)^2

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Oh

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Does that mean it’s A

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Wait

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I have to go so don't keep me waiting too long

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@rustic sequoia

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how to find a , b ?

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no

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i am sure

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!xy

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thing is, since the denominator approaches something nonzero (3+3 = 6), evaluating this limit would have required nothing but direct substitution...

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i know

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that’s the point

tired walrus
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and it just becomes $\sqrt{3a + b} - 2 = -\frac{3}{2}$

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tired walrus
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so you only have one equation, but two variables.

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you cannot solve for both.

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oh, the value of the limit is +1/4, not -1/4.

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my point still stands, bc the denom is x plus 3 ...

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tired walrus
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it's an impossible question, you're literally deprived of info.

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are you 120% sure that the denominator is x+3 AND x approaches positive 3?

tranquil pine
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Yes

tired walrus
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ok then yeah

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it's unsolvable

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so if your teacher is holding you at gunpoint about it im so sorry but your life will be in danger then

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(but the stakes are probably a lot lower in reality)

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Are these lemmas of equality of functions equivalent? I have written below that they are not since in the first one we have to equate the images of f and g and in the second and third one we have to equate the codomains. But it need not be the case that the images and codomains are equal, is that the reason why they are not equivalent?

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I have to go in a while so can someone respond?

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Can someone help me with this one?

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rocky tusk
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ok so u can establish a pattern here

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u know the original price is 15000

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so what do u think the price will be after one year

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if it increases by 10%

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@cursive wave

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1500

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I think

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NO

rocky tusk
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but it increased by 10%

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so at let’s say t=0 where time is zero years have passed

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it’s 15000

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so after one year, t=1 what’s the new price

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u can think of this is a geometric sequence

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if u know what that is

cursive wave
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yES

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YES

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Sorry my family keeps calling me

rocky tusk
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no worries

cursive wave
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Anyways. so 10% of 15000 is 1500 cuz

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So will it increase by

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1500

rocky tusk
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do u know what a geometric sequence is

cursive wave
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Mhm

rocky tusk
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ok do u know the formula for finding the nth term

cursive wave
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When they get multipled by the same thing

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Yeah

rocky tusk
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yes

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so what is the formula

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an=?

cursive wave
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sn = t1(r^n - 1) / (r-1)

rocky tusk
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this is the sum formula

cursive wave
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OH

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Mb

rocky tusk
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this is saying if u added up the first n terms

cursive wave
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t1r^n-1

rocky tusk
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yes

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if we start at n=2

cursive wave
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Mhm

rocky tusk
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ok so

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what’s t1

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15000

rocky tusk
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and what’s r

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.1

rocky tusk
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no

cursive wave
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No?

rocky tusk
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because think about it

cursive wave
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:so

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Help.

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Hm?

rocky tusk
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if u multiplied by 0.1

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it would decrease

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right

cursive wave
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Yeah true

rocky tusk
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the price isn’t decreasing

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i saw earlier

cursive wave
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Yeah

rocky tusk
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what u did was multiply by 0.1

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and added the original well

cursive wave
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Yeah

rocky tusk
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think of it like this

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if something increases by 10%

cursive wave
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Yeah

rocky tusk
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then it’s new price is 1.1 times the original

cursive wave
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Got it

rocky tusk
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because 1 times the original is itself

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so no increase

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same goes if it was decrease

cursive wave
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So it's 100% + 10%?

rocky tusk
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u would have 1-0.1=0.9

cursive wave
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Okay

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What if it's already .9? so I take it to negatives?

rocky tusk
rocky tusk
cursive wave
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Okay, I get it now

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Tyyy

rocky tusk
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ok so

cursive wave
rocky tusk
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what will it be after 10 years

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using the formula

cursive wave
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Hold up lemme do it

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8649

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waittt

rocky tusk
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hmm

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if u started at 15000

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how’d u get less

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r=1.1

cursive wave
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Oh I wrote 100 insteas of 15000

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I AM SO SORRY 😭 I DONT MEAN TO TROUBLE YOU

rocky tusk
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no worries

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so what is it

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after 10 years

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don’t get tricked by the n btw

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in the formula

cursive wave
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576650

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if I did not mess up again

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I hope

rocky tusk
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576000?

cursive wave
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No-

rocky tusk
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that’s too much

cursive wave
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Oh

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I am doing

rocky tusk
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what’re u typing in

cursive wave
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15000(a.5)^10-1

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1.5 not a.5

rocky tusk
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why 1.5?

cursive wave
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...

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I have not slept

rocky tusk
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where’d u get 1.5

cursive wave
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In 3 days

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I am sorry

rocky tusk
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and wait

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n≠10

cursive wave
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Yeah

rocky tusk
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n=11

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because

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the first term is really year zero

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so the second term is year 1

cursive wave
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Okay

rocky tusk
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and the tenth term is year 9

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so we want the eleventh term

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to get year 10

cursive wave
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Okay, that makes sense

rocky tusk
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i thought of it like ok increase by 10% so multiply by 1.1 for the first year then again for the second

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and u notice

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it’s really 1.1^t

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where t is what year it is

cursive wave
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Ohhhh

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Yeah

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That makes sense

rocky tusk
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lmk what u get

cursive wave
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38906

rocky tusk
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bingo

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nice

cursive wave
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FINALLYYY

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I am sorry, idk what I was doing with the 1.5

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TYSM

rocky tusk
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lol no problem

cursive wave
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tranquil pine
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!status

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
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5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
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tranquil pine
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1

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i think you half the bx value

tranquil pine
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yes

tranquil pine
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perform it here

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if i remeber correctly i think you half the b term

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to get 3 over 2 x

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and u get (x+3/2)-9/4 -20/4

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after that point im stuck

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wait

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u collect like terms

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-9-20 is -29

tranquil pine
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oh

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what havw i done inncorectly

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i think there is a fundamental error in what you think of how completing the square works

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do you want me to intuitively explain to you hoe completing the square works or do you want me to jump straight to the formula and just guide you from that

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explain how it works

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alright would u mind like waiting 5 minutes my phone battery is like 4% so ill get to my pc lol

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no i wouldnt ,take your time

tranquil pine
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huh

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do you still need help or

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yes

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why

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i didnt understand what that sentence meant but its whatever

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lets continue

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so like

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a perfect square trinomial is expressed as [
(a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2
]

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tranquil pine
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the idea behind completing the square is that for SOME quadratic of the form [
ax^2 + bx + c
]
you can do some modifications (completing it) to get something with a perfect square similar to the above

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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so what we can do is this:

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lets start with ax^2 + bx + c

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okay

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@tranquil pine i want you to try and factor 'a' from all 3 terms

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what do u get

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(x+a)^2

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no

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by factoring i mean like
ax + bx -> x(a+b)

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oh right

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the 3 terms are a b and c right

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no

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ax^2, bx, c

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those are the three terms

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x(ax+b) + c

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okay great but like

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im asking you to factor a not x

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a(x^2+bx)

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nope

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that gets you ax^2 + abx if u distribute it back

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is ax^2 + abx what u had to begin with

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no

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yes

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so

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you need to get rid of that a that u made appaer in the bx term

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consider dividing by a for that term

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a(x^2+b/a)

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great!

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but u missed x

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in the second but im guessing that was a mistake

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anyways like

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a(x^2 +bx/a) + c

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doing the same process for c gets you

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a(x^2 + bx/a + c/a)

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all clear?

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yes

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okay so lets ignore that a thats getting multipled

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we will get to it

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lets look at [
x^2 + \f{bx}a + \f ca
]

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tranquil pine
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so lets compare it with what we want this to be

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which is [
a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2
]

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tranquil pine
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its a whole different equation

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[
\c g{a^2} + \c r{2ab} + \c b{b^2} \
\c g{x^2} + \c r{\f{bx}a} + \c b{\f ca}
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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i tried to colour code it for clarity sake

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but do you see how a^2 = x^2 here?

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they are both the same in the sense that it is some number squared

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so we can also say that a = x

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right

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okay so i will modify it further a bitr

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[
\c g{x^2} + \c r{2xb} + \c b{b^2} \
\c g{x^2} + \c r{\f{bx}a} + \c b{\f ca}
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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so we are starting to get to something that makes this work

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now

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were did the c term dissapear to

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its still there

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c/a

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we factored a if you remember

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oh yh

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yuh

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so like now

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i will actually ignore the c/a part

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for now

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but we will come back to it

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so like

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[
\c g{x^2} + \c r{2xb} + \c b{b^2} \
\c g{x^2} + \c r{\f{bx}a}
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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so this is the spicy part

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we want to find some term so that like

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[
x^2 + \f{bx}a + {???}^2 = (x + {???})^2
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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x+ ab?

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we are trying to find what that ??? is

tranquil pine
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so like

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a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2

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thats what a perfect square is yes?

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yes

tranquil pine
# soft zealot

we want to find the ??? that makes this exactly happen

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so so

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we said a = x yeah?

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so we got the first term a^2 down

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but for the 2ab part

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how do we compare that with the bx/a term?

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so like, there is a 2 missing there

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[
a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2 \
x^2 + \f{bx}a + {???}^2 = (x+ {???})^2
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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b^2

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okay i dont think this will work very well if im going to do it this way

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how about i show it to you and you can just ask questions okay?

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i feel like this is too complicated for me

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i will try to make it simple as much as i can

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so like

tranquil pine
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[
\c g {a^2} + 2\c g{a}b + b^2 \
\c g{x^2} + \c g{x}\f ba + {???}^2
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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the greens are like directly together in the comparison we are making

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so we want to try and find b

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but like

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do you notice that there is no 2 in the second one?

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we can make a 2 appear by multiplying and dividing by two

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so like

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[
\c g {a^2} + \c r{2}\c g{a}b + b^2 \
\c g{x^2} + \c r 2\c g{x}\f b{2a} + {???}^2
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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what i did is multiply and divide by 2, which is 2/2, which is equal to 1 so it doesnt change anything

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if you notice, the only thing left is the b

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so we can conclude that b = b/(2a) and thus the question marks are b/2a

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so in conclusion we have

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[
\c g {a^2} + \c r{2}\c g{a}\c b b + \c b {b^2} \
\c g{x^2} + \c r 2\c g{x}\c b{\f b{2a}} + \p{\c b{\f b{2a}}}^2
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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i tried to illustrate it the best i could

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but from this we get like

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[
x^2 + 2x\f b{2a} + \f{b^2}{4a^2} = \p{x+\f b{2a}}^2
]

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tranquil pine
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which is why we did all we did

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ok so if u remember we had like [
ax^2 + bx + c =a\p{x^2 + 2x\f b{2a} + \f{b^2}{4a^2} + \f ca}
]

soft zealotBOT
tranquil pine
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so we can come back to that

tranquil pine
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we need to subtract it again to avoid breaking the equalityt

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okay sigh i think i really lost you so there is no good way for me to do this with my way of thinking

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how about i link you some videos about it instead yuri? @tranquil pine

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view all of whats being said here

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alright

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thank you for trying to help

vital crag
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,tex .cts

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riemann

vital crag
tranquil pine
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thats all you have to do?

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yes

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the reason why my thingy is

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a lot more fucked up is because we are trying to consider it for any general quadratic ax^2 + bx + c

tranquil pine
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so if you get like uh

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3x^2 + 4x + 6 or something

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factor 3 out so you get
3(x^2+ 4/3 x) + 6

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and then complete the square on the inside

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that makes alot more sense

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i get it now😭

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wooo

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thank you for your time

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bye bye

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sonic crystal
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A fair die is rolled once. A is the event the score is even and B is the event the score is 5 or 6. Determine, giving reasons, whether or not events A and B are independent.

sonic crystal
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I don't really remember how to do these types of probability questions, how can I start?

tranquil pine
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basically, if two events are independent, then there couple of rules, it's pretty easy question, just brush up the rules once

tired walrus
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you should recall the definition of independent events @sonic crystal

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no progress can be made without that