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Im confused on this question
so pretty much i know that function f(x) = |x| will be shifted 2 units to the left and 7 units down. So part a) is easy.
But for part b) im confused because isnt the function g(x) shown right there?
g(x) = f(x+2)-7 is the equation right? So why are they asking us that
you plug in those transformations into the original equation
so it'll be g(x) = |x+2| -7?
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i think thats the right answer but i need someone to verify
is it correct?
yea
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Having a a bit of trouble interpreting questions like these when there are no "top" graphs.
Would I just create two integrals and add them together?
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How can I create a single integral to solve for the volume of the object that would be formed by rotating the region bound by the two graphs and the y-axis, around the y-axis?
hm, if you want to take vertical cross sections by subtracting the functions, you'll have to use the shell method
otherwise you can take horizontal cross sections (you'll need two integrals) and use the disk method
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I'm not sure if you've learned both of those methods yet or not, so you might not have a choice
Oh yes, that would make sense. I forgot when using the shell method you integrate perpendicular to the axis of revolution, so there would be a "top" function using that method.
yep, but it's also totally fine to use disks and integrate with respect to y instead
I did end up doing that, but I was curious if there was a way to create one equation as the next problem references the same general problem, but rotated around x=1 and I thought it would be easier to solve if I could have them in one integral.
But the shell method here makes sense.
When rotating this about x=1 though, would that leave my equations for y as y=1-(3x) and y=1-(4-x^2)? I've only done one other problem where the axis of revolution was not the x or y axis itself.
are you referring to the shell method?
Yes, if the axis of revolution was x=1.
I recall that I would subtract the function from the changed radius.
Or something of that nature.
tatpoj
the height, h is the distance between your two functions, vertically
r is the radius, which in this case would be 1-x
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I'm assuming A. is just 5 because Sin x/x = 1?
I also could use some help with the rest😅
There's a little more to it even though your guess is correct
Since you have sin(5x) instead of sin(x), try to make sin(y)/y appear, with y in terms of x
This is the method
make sin(y)/y appear?
Yeah
You know limit of sin(y)/y = 1 when y goes to 0, whatever y may be
So maybe if you tried to find a "y" that would perfectly fit here
Okay I think I'm really lost😬
Doesn't matter
We can start a little over
So we have our initial expression, sin(5x)/x right ?
Could I just plug in 0 to the function since 5(0) = 0
actually wait then I wouldnt get 5
0/0 is undefined 😔
OHHH right right
So, sin(5x)/x looks very similar to sin(x)/x but not quite
But what if we had sin(5x)/(5x)
Yesss
5sin5x/5x=5
As a limit yes
okay perfect thank you
This type of factorisation (for c) doesn't help for infinite limit
Can I just plug numbers in straight away then?
Not possible either, infinity/infinity is still undefined
To make sense of it, factor the numerator by the highest power of x
And do the same with the denominator
So I should multiply the numerator and denominator by 1/x^2
Yes
Yep it's 5
Thank you so much for your help, going to try my best on my own for the last couple!
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how can i prove that a system of equations with 3 variables has no solution
do you know how to solve systems of equations using matrices?
ive heard of it
ik what a matrix is and ive done them before but i havent done it in ages
do you have a rough idea on how it works?
yeah i think so
so a system is considered unsolvable when the matrix doesn’t have an inverse
do you remember how to determine if a matrix has an inverse?
as you try to solve them you'll end up with an equation like 5 = 0
i tried it and got -1 = 0 after plugging in c = 3-a into the third equation
yeah
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This might be a weird question
but i need someone from texas
its for UIL
and its number sense
its like mental math
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For 13 A am i multiplying 3 by 25 and 4 by 25 first
It's a mixed fraction
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Ok
i have no clue... how do I start
its indefinite integral is li(x)
Write the integral as a sum of integrals then bound each integral
Each interval could be [1,2], [2,3], etc
my point is if we can prove that for any arbitrarily small k, then it will work for all k greater than it
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Hi all, what the 'formula' i need to follow for these type of questions. P(A) = 1/5 and P(B) = 1/4 P(A n B) = 0.1, find P(A U B)
P (A U B) = p(A) + p( B) - p(A n B)
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Can someone please help with this math problem I've been stuck on it for an hour. The first drop down menu is linear or exponential 2nd one is asking multiplicativity or additively 3rd one is asking common difference/slop or common ratio/multiplier/base
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@dusk parcel I've been stuck on this problem for more than an hour and I've asked for help twice the first time no answer waited 30 minutes second time got a weird answer saying it was neither linear or expediential when it has to be one.
have you considered how much the money in the account changes each year
yes if it was lenear it would be 170 and 169 for 2
for exponential it would be 1.313451072, 1.460577547, 1.850680544
geometrically, a linear function is a straight line while an exponential function would either grow increasingly faster over time or approach zero asymptotically
if you were to draw these points in a graph
would there be a lot of error if you were to draw a line between the points?
Like the ratios of the functions or the actual money in the acc (like 199.84)
the actual money in the acc
In a linear line, the slope is a constant. Slope = change in y over change in x
Since change in x is constant in the given points (1, 2, 3, 4, change in x = 1), calculate the change in y between all the points and if it's the same, then they're linear, otherwise exponential
Looking at the numbers, this is definitely an odd question
The linear points are 170, 170, 169
so it would be expediential?
It doesnt have to be exact
Since we're talking money, it's possible that the answer had been rounded to nearest cent
yes
this is why I called this an odd question
Its 169.32 which cant round to 170
170, 170.34, 169.32
Yes that whats I got
so it can be linear still?
It would still be better than an exponential function
exponential function would look like 1.313451072, 1.460577547, 1.850680544
you can see it graphically
Here you can see that the best line stays closer to the points than the best exponential function
I see. so it would be A linear function... y-values changing additively. the common difference/slope of this function____ What would the approximately of this function be though?
170, 170.34, 169.32
170 ish?
roughly yeah
you could also take their average
if you want slightly more precision
You should ask your teacher/ professor about this question when you get the chance, it doesn't feel right bc the difference is off by a decimal
Ya the teacher said these questions are weird but if the answer is only off by like .somthing then she would give credit still
So should I just put 170?
in my opinion yes
Okay
It was right!
Can one of you guys check this one to see if I've done it right please?
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how do i use this formula
like what do I plug in
think of gx as fx
right
so sqrt(2-[x+h]) - (sqrt2-x) over h?
yes
yes
how do i go by getting my final answer
simplifying further I just get sqrt (2-x-h) - sqrt (x-2) over h
yes
no
limit is approaching, not at zero
also it would be approaching infinity
the equation is actually the derivative limit definition
from what I understand Im suppose to get rid of the h at the bottom
yes
but how
thanks for the help ill try to figure it out
you can just take the derivative
how tho I think im just suppose to use that definition of the derivative formula given
idk man the limit equation seems impossible since you have a part without h
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I need help on (b).....
Like is the question asking me any arbitrary r1/r2 vector?
Cause there are infinite vectors that start from origin to line L1
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can someone help explain limits from both sides? I don’t understand them very well or how to calculate it?
ok what happens if you plug in a number slightly less than 2 into the equation
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I still don’t quite understand though.
When she was showing this in class she didn’t even mention that, she was getting us to write it down like
I’ll show you an example?
yeah again lets plug in a number its close to 2 but not 2 and from the left side
- means left side of 2 1.99 1.98 etc
negative not the dot
and + means 2.01 2.02 etc right
ok so if we plug like 1.99^2 into the eq
what do u egt
u can add backslash before - to remove dot point
@magic rampart ty didnt know that
isn’t that undefined
My calculator says error
unless I did it wrong
not quite
values there aren't in the domain of the function, so it doesn't even make sense to consider the left side limit
Yeah thats true but im just using a logical approach since domain is starting from 2 you shouldn't consider any limit below that domain
oh oops I sent the wrong photo earlier, she’s been writing it like this
I try to write down what I see because I can’t understand her accent well at all
what your saying does make sense though, to a certain point
Thank you.
btw you apply the same thing here since domain ends at 3
u dont consider anything above 3 so same thing as last problem
no, you cancel out the -2 on the right by adding 2 to both sides
(but yes it’s undefined for x<2)
Okay.
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From a group of 8 women and 6 men, a committee con- sisting of 3 men and 3 women is to be formed. How many different committees are possible if
(a) 2 of the men refuse to serve together?
(b) 2 of the women refuse to serve together?
(c) 1 man and 1 woman refuse to serve together?
How do we do C?
Ive been stuck on this question and cant seem to get it
Ive tried various methods but nothign seems to work
Ive tried a case by case method, unless i did my math wrong, I cant seem to understadn waht went wrong
let's call the particular members that refuse to serve together Alice and Bob
OK
we want the committees that don't have both Alice and Bob on it
you could do it with two methods
(5C3)(7C3)
either count the committees with Alice only, then with Bob only, then with neither of them, then add it up
I did that third method
this is one method
I eam this one
mean*
if you only counted the third kind of committees then you are wrong
and for some reason, it wasn;t coming up as the coreect answe
I eam I added all 3
typo
or you can count the committees that have both Alice and Bob on them, and subtract that from the answer to part a.
why would I subtract from A?
oh waitn o
fyi, A is 896. C is supposed to be 910
hold on sorry i thought a was unrestricted
u good
then you need to find the number of committees w/o restriction and subtract from that.
so subtract from unrestricted?
yes
okok let me try taht
but can I type down how I did the orignal method u mentioned?
maybe I made a mistake there
sure
Case 1: Alice and Bob not there
(5C3)(7C3)
Case 2: Alice is there
(5C3)(8C3)
Case 3: Bob is there
(6C3)(7C3)
Add the answers up
this is what I did
didnt work sadly
if alice is there then you have to have 2 other women
OHHHH
hold up
Wait
still doesnt work tho
It goes down, but not yet reaching the amount
I changed it for the men as wel
Case 1: Alice and Bob not there
(5C3)(7C3)
Case 2: Alice is there
(5C2)(8C3)
Case 3: Bob is there
(6C3)(7C2)
yea
then cases 2 and 3 are wrong
hm?
committees with alice should be 7C2 (women) * 5C3 (men)
we want alice on but bob off, remember?
check case 3 again
You are my savior
I was stuck on C for like 1 hour not knowing what was wrong
Thank you soooo muchh
🙂
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i got the acceleration graph, but how do i go from velocity to position?
Derivation is the change of the function. Acceleration describes velocity, and velocity describes position. The area under the graph of a derivate, gives the value of the function. Area under acceleration describes velocity, area under velocity describes position.
so i see i can make a triangle + a rectangle for 1-5 seconds and a rectangle for 1-15 seconds. but for 16-20, do i only do the little triangle in the poisitive?
or do i do the triangle in the negatives too
What does negative velocity mean?
its position is changing in the negative direction?
That's right, so you're going to include the area under the x-axis. And remember that the area is negative, since the position is getting reduced.
okay i got all of the areas! im confused on how to apply the area to the position graph. how does my area of 12 relate to the look of the graph?
What is the area in the interval [0,4] under the velocity function.
so the area from 0 to 4 is 12
meaning that the difference in position from 0 to 4 should be 12
so the first segment looks something like this?
sure (although it's moving faster at the start so you might bend it a bit, but yeah that's fine)
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how does this look?
When a object is accelerating, the speed goes from 0 (sometimes other) to something. Does position graph in interval [0,4] look reasonable?
Otherwise, the graph looks good.
Your curve is towards down, it maybe should point towards up.
@barren hound Is the explanation correct? I'm a bit unsure.
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i think it's curved the other way bc it starts out fast! but that's not really a big deal rn
Oh yeah, my bad. It do starts something other than 0.
You should change the curve, my bad.
Its totally okay!! I appreciate both of your help!! ❤️
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this is an awnser my professor gave on a taylor series question, and i was wondering did he do an oopsie on the chainrule?? isnt the y"(0) suposed to be -4cos(0)=-4
indeed
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Hello, im having problem with Polynomial factoring (GCF)
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The period of the function f(x) = |sin2x|+|cos8x|
What do you think?
,wolf plot |sin2x|+|cos8x| from -1 to 4
I don't know how to do it without desmos
ah
Use Wolfram Alpha 
Just kidding.
So let's see
do you know the period of sin2x?
Obligatory @eternal wharf
What does this mean?
Alright, correct
generall for any sin(ax)
it has period 2pi/a
because if you put sin(ax) = sin(a(x + 2pi/a)) for all x due to sine repeat.
However if you have an asbolute value of a sin, the period is halfed
The period of |sin(ax)| is just pi/a.
you get |sin(ax)| = |sin(a(x + pi/a))|
,wolf plot |sin(2x)| from -1 to 4
pi/2 repitition
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How do I solve this?
ok good work
now try rational roots theorem
, also the fact that if a is a root then (x-a) is a factor
actually rational roots might be overkill here cus personally I can kinda already find a root here just by looking at the poly 
But if u don't see it immediately use that to narrow down the possible roots and try them ouf
So how do I do this really?
well there's the cubic formula
Rational function is in the next unit
No this is a polynomial function
rational roots just says
That if the coefficients of a poly are integers and the poly has a rational roots
the root being p/q
Then q divides the coefficient in front and p divides the constant term
So for example
6 divides 6 so q could be 6
And 36 divides 36 so p could be 36
So 36/6=6 might be a root
It doesn't say it will be
Just that it won't not be either until you've plugged it into the equation
ok
So as another example rational roots says 5/7 is not a possible root
but yeah the goal here is to find an ez root a so you can write the polynomial as (x-a) times a quadratic
And quadratics r ez
There is a cubic formula too but it's not as nice as the quadratic formula
Don’t forget that x is equal to 0 too because of the 3x
I cant use it because it is not in the material
yeah I didn't say to use it anyways
can you explain?
again one of the roots here is waaaay more obvious than the other ones so don't be using weird values like 4/3 probably (even though rational roots says 4/3 is not not a possibility. Also I haven't actually checked if 4/3 is a root or not so don't quote me on this)
If you for example 10X^2 + X = 0 if you put the X out it will be X(10X + 1) = 0 and if you multiply X with everything it needs to be 0 so X must me zero
What is the answer to the question do you know?
x=0 is a solution but it's not the only solution so "must" is kinda strong
Possibly and you must include it as a possiblity
no not possibility it is
it is a soultion
possibly I mean
For example X can be equal to 0, … , …
yeah how do I find the rest then
Do you know the answer?
yes I know the answers
I told u find a root first
Like without explanation
yes
just any root but there's a really easy root
What?
Then you can factor out (x - a) and you'll have a quadratic left
And the quadratic is just ez factoring or quadratic formula
But find a root to the cubic polynomial I should say
X needs to be equal to 0 too
I just dont understand what he means by taking x=1
on what basis
It is like (6x^2 + 35x +36)(x-1) and it is easy
so hypothetically we could substitute any number in and see if it works?
What I saw you it equals to the equation
btw what does it mean by taking 3x to the right side?
they factored out the 3x like you did
But they put it on the right instead of left
and it is just gone?
Means factored it just make it easier for you to solve and if you factored x, another answer will be x = 0
No problem 😉
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I just realized there's a tangent identity tan (x-y)
What did I do wrong though
In trying to solve it
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How do I use u substitution to solve the integral of 1/(x^2+1)dx / do I even need to? It looked really easy at first but then I got stuck :/
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hello there, you have a threqad open at #help-35 , we ask you don't use up mulitple threads so others can ask. Can you move your question there?
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Hi, can someone please help me for this problem?
I probably need to change the bounds of h(x) but am not sure where to take things
yeah try a u substitution to make the bounds 0 and x
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How does u-sub change the bounds of an integral?
I generally only do u-sub to get an antiderivative or something
Then just stick to that and substitute back in terms of x after integrating u
Then wouldn’t I be avoiding what the exercise is asking me to do? I see a way of solving this by doing a “classic” u-sub but in that case, I wouldn’t be using the first part of the FTC
when you do a usub of a definite integral, the bounds also change in accordance with the sub
i.e. change by the same rule as the sub you choose
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Let me try this real quick
@worldly vale
I don’t understand what to do
I tried doing a normal u-sub but for some reason nothing works out
This integral doesn’t seem like an “elementary” integral (?)
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stuck on 266
i get thats an acronym, but what does it mean
bigger on bottom it goes to 0 bigger on top its inf if its the same power you divide the co-eff
yeah my calc teacher said it to make it easier for us I mean its worked for like ever so :p
U p much prove what vraj said by doing what garlic said
yeah basically
how do i divide the root by x
Sqrt(1/x^2)
yeah
That's the point of the method
If u kept it as it was then u couldn't find a limit since the denom and num owuld go to infinfinity but by diving all the terms except the leading coefficient become 0 as x goes to infinity
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Hi, are there any issues with my work here? I somehow get all different answers, this is perhaps where the “reconcile your answers” part comes in…
that's exactly right 
So there’s nothing wrong with my work right?
yeah your work looks good to me
Perfect
I’m trying to reconcile my answers
But one thing
How do I eliminate the constants?
Like
How am I supposed to write out the fact that the constants can be neglected since we’re dealing with indefinite integrals
like the +C?
And hence all 3 results are equal
the +C is exactly what lets you reconcile them
it may be helpful to graph the three equations
functions
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Still stuck 😭
Are the three different results equal only for certain values of C
,w plot {0.5sin²x, -0.5cos²x, -0.25cos2x}
does this bring understanding?
Yep so
If I understood correctly
And according to the graph
Only 1 value of C (common to the 3 results) makes it so the 3 results are equal
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Is there only 3 graph for a) ? and for b) how can i list out all 12 paths
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I dun see any mistakes in my workings but Idk why am I not getting the answer. (1st order Bernoulli equation)
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last step ^
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what did i do wrong for b)
Where did you get (3,-3,2) from
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would you mind writing your work in more detail for part b?
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i can’t at the moment but it’s like $$area=|AB \cross AD|$
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i don’t think i did the cross product wrong so idk what’s wrong with my working
What’s the answer supposed to be
sqrt 307
but they use different vectors so can’t check the working
I get the idea, but if you write how you computed AB and AD, and their cross product, in more detail, then it’ll help you find the mistake
it should be -3, -2, and 1, not -3, 2, and 1
this is why more steps help
I found the error
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I am struggling with Algebra-II. How would I solve this?
2 - 2|5x - 2| = - 18
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Not yet, I'm trying to solve it again though
Well that’s the uh….answer on the first picture, but how you got -10 during your substitution there….I’m unsure about
Yeah, 12/5 and -8/5 are correct after my check, but let’s go back to the start of your substitution process.
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Totally not like I have eight more of those to solve or anything!
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Help
Bearing

Sorry, I dont help with geometry questions, I am not good at those.
It’s good but do u know anyone who’s good
Someone else will be able to help with those, wait here.
Bcus I’m abut to go to sleep and I have a test tmwr
And I already feel like I will FUXK it up
yeah dw, i'll try
Tysm
Only if you could mark those bearing things
I don’t fucking understand the whole
Thing
Hmm nice me too
Why couldnt they just have given the angles like
bearings
Take clockwise angle from north direction, and they wont even write 75° as 75°
They would make it what, 705 ?
Huh
💀💀
Bearing angles are just taking a different convention for the starting point.
In mathematics, typically, angle 0º is the positive X axis, you count counterclockwise, and the positive Y axis is 90º.
In bearings typically, angle 0º is the positive Y axis (north), you count clockwise, and the positive X axis is 90º
There are other ways to measure both, these are just the most common
Then what is B to A and A to B??
here
after finally understanding what bearings are, here is the labelled diagram
Is CD||North??
no
not truly अक्लमंद बिल्ली
#chill please
Oh right doesnt need to be
sorry, old guy
From this drawing
- drawing line parrallel to North at C
- Extending AD till it cuts the previous line
This will give you a triangle, then you can do it
so complex why
Less brain used
And i did it fast , cuz, less brain used
Idk
If theres an easier method
But
- 70° from Interior Alternate angle
- Find x, y by Linear Pair
- a and z , from Angle sum property of triangle
Answer you need that bearing shit is just (180+a+z)°
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Yes Tysm love 🫶🏻🫶🏻
You're welcome
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What do i do to get my limit if I have an unknown in my equation
its just a constant, work with it
I got this. Idk where to go from here
It should be 2*(x+3)-C for the numerator no?
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Yo
How does dividing fractions work in terms of mathermatical reasoning
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you multiply it by the reciprocal
Yes but how why does that work
Isnt there some type of reason
<@&286206848099549185> i dont understand how multiplying fractions is done by logic
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Nah but its ok
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uh
I just factored out the x^2-4
cancel x+2 with x+2
idk why i cross x-2 but that stays
Uhhh then x-2 is the only one left
Sot aht is the denominator
and then numerator x^2-x+1
Xd idk
so i made x^2-x+1 = x+1
so my final answer was
x+1/x-2
yea you don't have to keep uploading the same image
what cancelling are you talking about, there's no equation?
oh god
im an idiot
i even wrote this down and still forgot
rational expression no canceling
OK i redo
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I have 0 idea
Status is 1
<@&286206848099549185>
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Dude seriously?
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Alr thx
Do u have an idea?
Possibly
I got (x/x) + 2
That seems correct to my work that I did for the problem
I have a few other ones as well
Can I send them here
Sure
That looks like a bingo to me
Also this one jeje
Hehe
This one is spot on I’m so happy :)
Your good to go
Ty
Cross your fingers for a good score
I have more tho lol
Have you solved this?
I’m so sorry but I have to go
At least I helped you with the other ones
Have a good day
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ik its simple but my brain isnt working correctly rn 😭
@supple dove This channel is already taken, please open your own #❓how-to-get-help
My bad
Consider this quadrilateral
Can you name any one of the four vertices?
well yeah I'm just using this rectangle as an example
but like, the top right corner
ohh okok
the top right corner is (1,2), right?
mhmm
thats the part i need help on, i forgot how to rotate shapes 😭
like how the point rotates and stuff yk
pretend it was like a real thing you could pick up
turn it around 180 degrees, so it's upside down
and then put it back down
I mean like
If the red point is here, at (1,2)
then if you rotated this rectangle 180 degrees, wouldn't it look like this?
like if you were actually able to pick it up and turn it around
so it went from (1,2) to (-1,-2)
ohh okk
so would it be (x, y) —> (-x, -y) because both points changed to negative?
yeah exactly 👍
That's what would happen no matter what point you chose to start with
alright tysmm
no problem 👍
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we have y = e^x/(1+2e^x)
swap the x and y positions
x = e^y/(1+2e^y)
what should I do next?
hmmmm
possibly take ln of both sides?
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Hwo do I do this
I tried making cases
X<=-1 implies (x³+1)(y³+1) < 0
But x =0 => y = 1 and (x³+1)(y³+1) =2
So no max case then
X,y>0 implies xy <= 1/4
Can you just use derivatives
just
implicitaley derive
however you spell that
find dy/dx
wait nvm
i read wrong
im unsure
maybe its an optimization or modeling problem
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Can anybody please explain how to solve this problem
apply leibniz rule for 1 and 3
idk 2
should i know how to do that in calc 1
no idea tf is calc 1
leibniz is diff of int
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i think
the second one is related to leibniz too
gotta check the
nature of the graph
yeah thats what i did
its I and III that trip me up
idk how to get those
becuase what if i do a test and i have to find those out
test?
idk that looked kinda hard to intg and easier to look at the graph
theres x going in the lims 😵😵
just diff it
wdym by differentiate it
dont i have to solve the integral firsy
then differentiate
Dyssrupt
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hi guys sorry to bother again but in this why do we need to multiply by n at the end
The n was always there the solution was just highlighting the other part of the limit
I kind of dislike this solution. It's using the product of limits rule where one of the limits does not exist (∞). Correct way is to do polynomial division and get it in the form f(n) + r(n)/g(n) where deg(r)<deg(g) and it follows the limit diverges to ∞
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So whether i said 3 or + infinity it didn't change stuff?
Both are correct?
The limits answer is +infinity not 3