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okay great, so then by that fact me putting that half angle identity down i have not yet integrated, so i still need to do that which is why they go back to sin, because that's the integration of that half angle identity, do I have that correct?
So you're just confirming that integrating sin^2 x gives back an expression containing sin(2x)?
no
here
- convert starting trig identity to half angle identity
- (i still don't exactly know why we do this)
- half angle identity returns 1/2(1-cos(2x))
- we then integrate which returns the sine trig function
- plug in limits and finish
Looks good to me
you do it so that you actually can integrate sin^2(x) using things you already know how to integrate
OH
so its really not possible to integrate 1-cos(2x)?
at my level of calculus 1?
? yes it is
then why are we doing this
^
you are trying to integrate sin^2(x)
we dont know how to do this
so we rewrite it as 1/2(1-cos(2x))
we know how to integrate this
so now we know how to integrate sin^2(x)
yes
but the 2x inside parentheses doesn't, right?
we simply replaced sin^2(x) with 1/2(1-cos(2x)) in the integral and then did the integration
doesnt what?
doesn't integrate
it does not change no
and that's because it's in parentheses right
its basically the "trig function of..." right
sure yeah
awesome
thank you very much my friend, that really helps a massive ton
have a good one
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how do i solve this
i get the answer 2/3(x1+x2)
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yo can someone help me find the intervals
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hi, can anyone helo me with this question? I don't know b, c, and d. I figured out question a.
This is systems of equations
Do you know how to solve those?
Here is an example of how you solve c
You could use elimination too
Which might be easier tbh
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The limit as x approaches 0 from both sides of f(x) is going to be nonexistent for this function, correct?
Because it's not continuous through the point x = 0?
the limit both ways exist, but they wont be the same
and that makes the function not continuous
Okay, so I know that the limit as x approaches 0 from the LEFT is -1, and the limit as x approaches 0 from the RIGHT is 1, but if it's the limit as x approaches 0 from BOTH sides, is the limit nonexistent?
the limit doesn't exist, yes, however
Because it's not continuous through the point x = 0?
is not the reason
do you know when a limit from both sides won't exist? there are multiple reasons this can happen
I know if both points do not "converge" on the given x value, then the limit doesn't exist. That's, essentially the only one I know of.
yes so in this case why doesn't the limit as x->0 exist?
does it converge on the same value as x->0 from both sides?
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Chris uses IVT and concludes that the equation x3β5x^2β6=K has a solution over the interval [5,6]. Given their work is accurate, which of the following can be the value of K?
A. K=-7
B. K=186
C. K=-5
D. K=-8
E. K=36
F. None.
Im just confused how to even begin solving this
What does ivt state?
IVT and the theorems in general are difficult for me
Intermediate value theorem
Yes i know that
π(x) is continuous on an interval [a,b]
π(π) β€ N β€ π(π)
π(π) = N
I believe are the rules for IVT
so over the interval [5,6], there exists a number c between 5 and 6 such that f(c) satisfies
f(a) < f(c) < f(b)
Right
what are a and b here?
a = 5, b = 6
f(5) = (5)^3-5(5)^2-6 = -6
f(6) = (6)^3-5(6)^2-6 = 30
But neither of these fall between the interval
Unless theres more work to be done
Now look at your options
we know that for some c, f(c)=K
By ivt,
f(5) < f(c) < f(6)
Correct
Evaluating everything out, we get
-6 < K < 30
Yeah
Sure
The sqrt in A is all of it
so each one is sqrt of whats on the right of the equal sign?
No no
I just mean the sqrt symbol you see in answer choice A is the whole answer
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Can somebody please help with finding the resultant force vector and magnitude? Iβve been stuck for like 30min and donβt know what Iβm doing wrong. Thank you!
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This is physics?
yes, i was just trying this discord to see if anybody could help
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Hmmm, are the axises orthogonal?
I mean, it looks like the angle between the x and z axises is 45+60 degrees
Oh my bad, that assumes that F_2 lies on the xz plane
So, you want to find the components of F_1 and F_2. Have you managed to figure any of them out?
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Is there a universal way to solve a system of 3 linear equations?
I find myself getting stuck on them more often than i'd like
row reduction?
Well more just solving the equation for all of the variables. I'm not sure what method to use
3 seperate equations with 3 seperate variables
I've tried using both elimination and substitution to no avail
x - y + z = -6
3x - 4y - z = -4
-2x + 3y + 4z = 14
ok, so what are you doing for your first step(s)?
with row reduction you would start by eliminating x from the 2nd and 3rd equations
then eliminate y from the 3rd equation
the idea being that when you're done, the 3rd equation will only depend on z, the 2nd will depend on y and z, and the 1st will depend on x y and z
then it's easy to find the values of xyz
Oh ok I'll give that a try, I was sort of just floundering, substituting into the second equation and ignoring the 3rd
yea it's best to proceed methodically, this way you know you'll end up with something you can solve
I hadn't even been taught row reduction I'll need to try that
you can check somewhere like khan academy for a tutorial
might also be called "gaussian elimination"
two names for the same thing
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why do they add pie or substract?
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I need help with this problem: find a curve that passes through (1,-1) and has an arc length of (4.37653)
i honestly have no clue what im doing
i had an integral in place of the arc length, but i already solved it
y = -1, for x from 1 to 5.37653
hm
can you show the entire problem exactly as stated?
im looking for more of an equation. and yea
i don't think i've learned with this tbh
you're supposed to recover the function from the stuff under the integral
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ah, so just take the sqrt and then do the integral
thanks
-6/x^2 + 5
thank you @tired walrus!
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what does (x,y) even mean in this case
does the (x,y) have any relation to the 3x+y
if i set (0,0) would that means 3*0+0=0?
(x,y) means an ordered pair, yes it has a relation to the 3x+y, yes it's 0
this set consists of all couples (x,y) that satisfy the given condition
you can rewrite the given condition as $y=-3x$ and so your set consists of all couples $(x,-3x)$ $\forall x\in \mathbb{R}$
calculus is fun
every point in the xy plane that satisfies this condition is in the set
so you can think of (x,y) as the coordinates of a point in the xy plane
which satisfies the given relation between x and y
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And the picture is also cut
What are you expecting
so im trying to get the expected value of the values given in the table, would I use the formula (6x0.15)+(8x0.35)+(10x0.5) to get the expected value?
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What do I do when dy/dx is split up
I have the integrating factor which is e^x^2
I move -4e^-x^2 to the right side
Do you know how to solve exact equations?
I just have to find general solution
k but that doesn't answer his question
No I don't know then
do you know how to solve first order linear differential equations
Yes
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how do you get a rule in a sequence where the product of the next term is twice the number before it?
like in
2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ...
it's not making sense for me
geometric sequence
$a_n = 2a_{n-1} \forall n \geq 2 ; a_1 = 2$
$a_n = 2a_n-1, \forall n \geq 2 ; a_1 = 2$
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@dense pumice make sure to include the dollar signs and \forall lol
Otherwise the "for all" will turn into a jumbled word
wait so is that the rule?
geometric sequences haaent been taught to us so i can't process this info atm
Normed
Yes
Sorry i forgot to reply my classmate said it's just
$a_n = 2^n$
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Can someone help me with thid
Which segment is longer ad or DC?
I've been looking at this for like 20 mins I don't get it
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You have the side lengths of triangle ABE marked. Notice triangle ACD is similar to triangle ABE
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how do i write an equation for this table?
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find the value
I don't really remember many trigonometric properties so I don't know what to do first
iβm just learning square roots for the first time. What would be the process for 5 a)?
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I wanna know of this is correct for the function e^2x+1
End behavior = As the function approaches infinity the function is infinite, as the function approaches negative infinity it is 0
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not really sure what to do i havenβt even gotten past step 1
do you know the triangle inequality
the sun of the lengths of any two sides of a triangle must be greater than the length of the third side
yes
to which triangle, and in what way, could you apply this inequality here in a useful fashion?
no JLK
since sum of any 2 side lengths is greater than the length of the 3rd, KJ + KL > JL
and since JL is congruent to LM, KJ + KL > LM
oh thanks
got another question tho
it says determine all the possible values and i could just sit there testing all the values but is there any faster method?
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how do i prove that a function is monotonically increading without calculus?
ik you find the derivitive and see if its > the x axis, but i havent taken calculus yet so i dont know how to take it
well, if you're somehow able to prove that f(x+1) > f(x), that would do it
why what about f(0) vs f(0.1)
not sure I understand you?
why does it work?
well, if you prove that at any point x, the point x+1 is greater than it, that means the function is increasing
at least that's my understanding of it
oh ig i'll try that
I don't think that quite works on the first unit interval on the domain (if the domain is unbounded below this isn't a problem)
for instance y = x for x>0, y = 10 for x = 0 is not increasing if we include the first point of the domain (and the function could be more generally decreasing in the first unit interval)
yeah that's what i was trying to say
ur gonna have to prove the interval [0,1) if you were to have x>0 domain
if it's an infinite domain then it's not a problem
but otherwise, yeah, that'd require a separate proof
f(x+1) > f(x) still proves it for everything else though, so you can just do it in two parts if that's feasible
the other way is to prove the definition directly; that x > y implies f(x) > f(y)
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is there a specific function you had in mind?
it would be simple to do it by definition for e.g. linear functions
k ty
yea i think this works
this is equivalent to: for all x > 0, for all a >= 0, (x+a)/(x+100+a) >= x/(x+100)
yeah how am I supposed to prove that
you can divide and multiply and add stuff etc to get an equivalent inequality thatβs clearly true
changed the inequalities a bit but you can change them back to > if you want strictly increasing
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I need help with this
What have you tried?
Plugging 3 into h
Have you got h yet?
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Find the function h(x) from itβs definition
Essentially have you plug whatever information given above
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you reached here?
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And I plug in 3?
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how do I get 14
oh
sure you can plug x=3 into each equations and evaluate
I think the goal is to multiply them algebraically
then plugging in 3
First get the answer by inspection without algebra
then try the algebra
Without algebra, by this i mean, find f(3) then square it, find g(3)*3, take their difference
After you are done, try expanding all these above and write it into something nice
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is this right
What's that blue dot at -3 on the y axis for?
And no it's not right, because -7/3 can either mean down 7, right 3 or up 7 left 3
While if it was 7/3 that can either mean up 7 right 3 or down 7 left 3
the rise
it has to go -7 below
.
You can't go both down and left if you have a negative slope
Negative sloped lines look like on the right
so it's not negative?
If you connected the dots on what you drew here, would the line look like the left with a positive slope or the right with negative slope?
left
But your equation have a negative slope, so it should look like the right one
That's why I said this
Start with your y intercept
okay
Apply one of these
So go down 7 right 3 or up 7 left 3
Then you do the other one
No
That's not the y intercept
Y intercept is where it crosses the y axis
What you did initially
You applied the slope wrong
Apply one of these
If you can't go up 7 left 3, then do the other one, down 7 right 3
No
oh
.
You can't go left 3 and down 7
and then I'm finished?
Yes
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Would this not be the int from 0-1 of pi*(1-x^1/4)^2 dx?
why x^1/4?
Fourth root x.
The only thing new here is the introduction of the function revolving around the line y=1, did I incorporate this properly?
Using 1-r(x).
yeah you did
Oh nvm, I figured it out. User error when entering the value. This was technically correct. I guess it just wanted the decimal approximation with a ton of numbers after the decimal.
Thank you!
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Can someone explain the significance
You find where the parabola characterized by this equation touches the x-axis
Does that mean y, the solution is zero? Are you looking for the x intercepts?
Is that for everything
Any equation set to zero
yeah
In particular it means you look for intersections with the line y=0
which is the x-axis
If you set your equation = 5
Then you find intersections with y=5
Hm ok
What does it mean when weβre looking for solutions to a quadratic?
Like factoring then getting x - 3 = 0
Are all solutions where the parabola touches the x axis?
Yes
Ok
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Prove that the space $\mathbb{R}^{[0,1]}$ is infinite dimensional
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You can do it by proving that any finite set of vectors cannot span the whole space
I need a hint on how to do this
Given any finite set of vectors, find another vector outside its span
That's all functions, right?
yeah it's for all functions
how should we find another vector outside of the span?
Consider the function outputting 1 iff its input is a certain real number r, and 0 otherwise
okay π
oh I think I know where this is going
nah I can't figure it out all the way π¦
@strong mantle how would you proceed from here?
Maybe you can think about it later
But there has to be at least one vector of this form that doesn't fit in the finite set
are we actually going to find the vector or just show that it exists?
What have you tried
I meant that the set of all these is linearly independent and spans the space
sadkid
but I couldn't figure it out past this
Do you think I'm going in the right direction?
I've come up with another approach
Suppose that f_1, f_2, ..., f_n span the vector space
Then they must be different at n points
Or at least distinguishable
Then consider an n+1th point
Find a function which is the sum of all n functions at the previous n points, but different from it at the n+1th point
And conclude
So basically you show that this new function can't be a linear combination of all the previous n functions but at n+1 it deviates by 1 past
Yes
Up to you to fill out the details
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oh sorry I was just working on it
Just kept it open to work on some details
in case I had any follow up questions
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Find the number of solutions $1+ sin^4(x) =cos^3(3x)$ has in $[\frac{-5Ο}{2} , \frac{5Ο}{2}]$. I was thinking os solving it by substituting $sin(x)=u$, but I think that will be too long, what other method can I use
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I could not get 545 x 25 in my head⦠any tips?
Try using paper
consider 25 = 100/4
multiplication by 100 is trivial
and should be easier to do division by 4 mentally (compared to long mulitplication)
think about 545 quarters and consider how much money that is
ok american
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for all of these, you just think about each piece of it
so like for the park, it's made of a rectangle and a semicircle
figure out the area of each one and then add them up
50 + 60? 
why are you adding 50 and 60 is my question?
The area is 110
Yes
Oh
,tex .plane geom
hayley!
look at the rectangle (second one)
yes
where are you getting plus from
It says 2b + 2h
,rccw
the area of the rectangle part is 50m β’ 60m yes
So I got it right
well you probably want to actually multiply them
Can you find the radius of the semicircle?
there's a diameter
I thinks itβs 50
can you find the radius from the diameter?
Nope
,tex .plane geom
hayley!
look at the circle, the first one
see how the diameter goes all the way across, while the radius goes only halfway across?
yes
nope
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have you completed 3 yet
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Prove or disprove that function g(t,u)=a|u|+b(t^2)(u^2)+ct(u^3) satisfies the Lipschitz condition on R={(t,u)||t|β€a, |u-b|β€c}, where a, b, c are positive constants. Find Lipschitz constant(if exists).
I applied the Lipschitz condition and proved that it satisfies it. Just have one doubt, if we have u1+u2 then can I say u1+u2β€2(b+c)
for finding the value of K(Lipschitz constant)
b and c are fixed while u1 and u2 are variables. you would have to show why u1+u2 cannot be bigger than the fixed value 2(b+c)
I am not saying it would be hard to show. but it needs justification
yes but why. from where are you getting that. be more precise
do I have to show them by solving the inequality?
if you wanna call it solving, then sure
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Hello
Hi
Whatβs the context?
do you have more?
you could differentiate pir^2 wrt t
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You have interpreted the question wrongly. "...with respect to radius" here simply means the corresponding change in Area of circle (per unit time) for some value of the initial radius r.
And dr/dt here denotes by how much radius is changing per unit time
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did i wake up in a new universe today? because apparently according to the calculator, in 4^x=9, x=log3/log2, even though it's CLEARLY x=log9/log4
Those are the same
$\frac{\log9}{\log4} = \frac{\log(3^2)}{\log(2^2)} = \frac{2\log3}{2\log2} = \frac{\log3}{\log2}$
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How would you go about doing b)
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I need to find p(a) correct?
Hmm if I remember correctly isn't P(A intersection B) = P(A).P(B)
U do know what's P(A' )=?
Yes mathematically 1-P(A)
Maybe 0.6
So
Let P(A)=x and P(B)=y
Can u find P(A intersection B) and P(A' intersection B)?
In terms of x and y
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Ye sorry
All good, thanks for assisting
Lemme see one sec..I get y = 0.8
Yea
How'd you get that if you don't mind me asking
xy=0.2
(1-x)y =0.6
y-xy = 0.6
y-0.2=0.6
y=0.8
Then sub y in xy = 0.2
Oh is xy the same as p(a n b)
Answering myself
Yes it is
Okay
How'd u get to next step?
Ah yes forgot to mention, I believe P(A' intersection B) = P((1-P(A) intersection B)
How is that so, is that just how it is
Like I'm just supposed to know that
Oh well know that I think about it
It makes sense
Yea
U haven't been taught probability?

Exactly that emoji
Wait let me write your working and I'll get back if I have any questions
K
Why did you do p(b)-p(a n b)= p(a' n b)
I did (1-p(a))(p(b)) = p(a' n b)
I'm talking about Ur 3rd line of working btw
I distributed
?
What would this achieve
I realised what u did
the value of x
Wait a minute, we did all that working while we already had xy=0.8 I could've divided by y which we already had
Oh my days
xy=0.2 not 0.8
Oh I meant xy =0.2
I got p(a) now
P( a u b) should be here from know
Easy from here
Yeah
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Hi! π
I need help, I have to solve this statistics problem and for some reason my solution feels off
A fair coin is flipped. If it lands heads H we flip it again, if it lands tails T we stop. What is the average number of times the coin is flipped?
I tried to find the probability of the sequence (H, T)
The possible cases are: (T), (H, T), (H, H, ...)
I don't know how many cases the third sequence should be.
have you tried making a tree diagram
Nice, so the probability of (H, T) is 1/3, right?
No, how did you get that?
you shouldnt write stuff that depends on order as sets
Here's what I did
Yes my bad π
then you can use this tree to calculate the expected values of each of the Tails
But why is this not correct?
You can see that by marking the probabilities on the tree
it takes 1/2 to go to H
and then another 1/2 to go to T
then when those are multiplied, you get 1/4
which is not 1/3
Ah I see you are right
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"The nth hop lasts for a time t__n, which solves the equation.
Make an equation for the time t_n. how many jumps will the ball make in total? Is this answer realistic?"
the equation at hand:
we know the v_0= 1m/s and it only keeps 1/9 of its energy per jump
so i got the velocity to be 1/3^n
however
When i do all of this, i get the limit as n goes to infinty to be 0 jumps?
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Working on #2
Honestly have no clue if Iβve done any right, but Iβve done 2 integrations by parts and donβt know how to continue
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hello. The last integral you got is correct. That one can be solved directly. Also don't forget that when you have a definite integral and you use integrations by parts, you have to evaluate each "uv" in the limits (0 and inf)
Anyway, you can keep your work and evaluate the limits in each term you got
you should get a^2/s + 2ab/s^2 + 2b^2/s^3
Another way to approach this laplace transform is first expanding the square I think π€ (a+bt)^2 = a^2 + 2abt + b^2 t^2
I had 2b^2/s^3 as the third term but the first two I had as well
I can never tell when I can end the integration by parts on a laplace so I just do two of them and then start substituting the inf's and 0's
oh neat
It ends when the integral can be directly solved, and you don't need int by parts anymore
So like in another example I've brought it down to sin(t)*e^-st
Since theres a laplace identity for sin(t) which is 1/s^2+1 I can sub that in and solve the rest of it?
sure, as long as you're allowed to use that identity
There's a method based in int. by parts, it's the DI method. It's a way to do it less messy
In other cases such as with polynomials, can I just do by parts until I'm left with int(d e^-st) and then solve it using the upper and lower boundaries?
yes
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working with lagrangians right now in classical mechanics but i think this is related enought to mathematics to ask the following question:
I dont understand how we are using the chain rule here
Where q(a), as I understand it, is some function of the position and of time
oh it's actually possible im completely misunderstanding the chain rule
i figured it out hehehe
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You are observing n rectangles from an origin (360O view) in arbitrary positions (distances and orientations) in cartesian coordinate system, as shown below (origin with red star).
Any rectangle can occlude any other rectangle, and a rectangle can occlude more than one rectangles; no rectangle can overlap with the origin or with any portion of other rectangles.
Calculate n random rectangles (with respect to position and orientation), with n being the user-defined input. Calculate the total occlusion angle over all rectangles with the lowest time complexity possible. Example of an occlusion angle between two rectangles is illustrated with the shaded area in the illustration below.
How would I do this?
Basically, how would I find the occlusion angles for this?
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What does it mean by "Which summary statistics would you use to summarize the center and spread in this data? Why?"
well that but i dont understand this wording "summary statistics"??
Heres what wikipedia says
mhmm so I guess to measure spread you'd use mean and for spread, standard dev?
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If $x$ is a real number, then either $x$ is an integer or there is an integer $n$ such that $n <x < n+1$
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Assume $x \notin \mathbb{Z}$. I considered 2 cases. The first case is when $x > 0$. Let $S = { n \in \mathbb{N} | n < x}$ and let $\alpha = \text{sup}(S)$. By construction $\alpha < x$.
KN
Now I want to argue why $x < \alpha + 1$.
KN
I am stuck here...
Since I want to show x < alpha + 1, can I assume that x > alpha + 1. But that is direct contradiction to how S is constructed. And this is done?
Why is $\alpha$ necessarily <x can't it just be x?
calculus is fun
$\alpha$ might not and (is probably not) in S
calculus is fun
It has to be in S, no?
This is how I pictured it... S is natural numbers smaller than x
sup (S) is just the greatest natural number less than x.
which is definitely in S
Not that's not necessary
For example take the interval (0;1)
Sup((0;1))=1
In that case, x would be like 1.1 and S = {1}
And $1\notin (0;1)$
calculus is fun
No If S={1} sup(S) doesn't exist
Because no matter which number you choose you can always choose another number closer but greater than 1
No sup(S) is just the least upper bound of S so $sup(S)\leq x$
calculus is fun
It can't be >x because it will contradict the fact that it is the least upper bound of S
consider the set S={0,1,2..,n} containing all natural numbers up to n
And let sup(S)=x
Then obviously n<x=<n+1
But x is not an integer though
But x isn't an integer in this case because it is sup of set of some natural numbers
Thus if sup(S)=x then n<x<n+1
Now you have to prove for sup(S)<x
Because sup(S)>x can't happen
Oh wait
Sorry, I still do not follow. If S = {1,2,3}, then sup(S) = 3 no?
You have to prove that you can always find a set of natural numbers up to some natural number n which has a sup=x
3 is an upper bound, and for all other upper bounds, 3 < those upper bounds
Yea a supremum can or cannot be a part of the set
I missed that it can be
My mind is working such that it can't
But it can in fact
Thanks for notifying me
no?
$\sup { 1 } = 1$, I think you will agree but what did you mean?
M8732
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I was working under the assumption that a sup can't be in the set but it can be
oh okay
Proof Explanation by contradiction 
yes and no
Ideally they are very explanatory
but in practice usually people take formal details and correctness as a priority.
Especially for statements like yours.
Anyway, "calculus is fun" is definitely correct in that $\sup(N) \not\in N$ is possible generally.
M8732
Sorry guys I gtg sleep I am brain farting it's around 1:17 am rn
So I think this bit could use further explanation/proof/whatever you will call it. π
alright, good night
I will try help.
Have a nice day/night both of you cya both
ty for help
How did you define real numbers?
Np I didn't do anything I messed up alot
we didnt
Since this is a very fundamentals-based question there is of course the important question what we are allowed to use.

Don't worry too much, happens to the best of us.
πππππππππ
ha ha okay, let's see
We did talk about the archimedean property of R
Generally I like your approach with the supremum.
yeah, that was the only tool we learned so far that I could think of.
For the whether or not a wull be an integer ot not
there is a property of integers that any subset of the integers ahs the supremum and infimum as an element of it's set.
axiom of completeness?
However this is not godfgiven, so if you didn't proof it in class, I think it would need to be proved 
well, I think you mean this for reals thoguh, right?
Any infiumum or supremum of a real ubset will be real (or infinity or negative infinity).
yes
The thing is though that we want a to be an integer.
We need to find a reason why a is an integer.
which "a" are you referring to?
Oh, we are keeping the idea of how I defined S earlier?
I thought so?
KN
a = sup S
We have a lot to do now
- Why is a an integer
- Why is a < x
- Why is x < a + 1
have you at all heard about minimum/maximum vs supreumum/infimum?
yes
great
So I suggest proofing that our supremum is in fact a maximum
If we know this, than we get 1 & 2 for free
because IF it is a maximum, then a is in S
big IF
I think this is the thing "Calculus is fun" was tryingt to say.
basically
So is it even true that sup = max here?
intuitively that is how i thought about supremums
if max exists, then always sup = max
However sometimes it is only a sup and not a max.
well here the max does exist
oh, why?
Just take the biggest element in S, would that not be the maximum?
I am not convinced
we can't just take the biggest element of { x in real | 0 < x < 1 }
right.
under which situation would this happen?
hmm
ok
maybe we dont split into cases
S = ${ n \in \mathbb{Z} | n < x }$
KN
so if x = 0.5, then S = {...,-2,-1,0}
