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paper zodiac
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Use Soh cah Toa again to find line CB

unique vapor
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YES

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ok

paper zodiac
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Line CB -Line DB = Line CD

unique vapor
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righ

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t

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thank you

paper zodiac
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I think that's it

unique vapor
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ok]

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we are done them

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If you have a 6 period schedule and 3 elective classes. How many schedule arrangements are possible where you have at least 2 elective classes in a row?

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for this i think i need to use

d/dx( f + g ) = d/dx(f) + d/dx(g)

but how would i identify what if f and what is g?
from the sin(t^3)? or from the upper and lower limit?

strange shore
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fundamental theorem of calculus ?

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oh wait you cant

faint zealot
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sry idek what that means

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;-;

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never heard my prof mention that

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he skips too many steps

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and scream at the class when we ask questions

strange shore
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maybe try to integrate ?

tulip coyote
strange shore
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idk

tulip coyote
strange shore
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ah this

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Ah I see

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basically chain rule

faint zealot
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the f(b) and f(a) is basically setting the upper and lower limit for one or the other to 0 while keep the other the same?

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for example for this

lower limit 0, upper limit x^2

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lower limit 2x, upper limit 0

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and those two different ones would be the f(a) and f(b)?

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so basically like this???

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or no?

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and then i find F'(x) for that

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by substituting in the 2x for t in the first one, and the x^2 into the t in the second one?

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@tulip coyote umm sry for ping but would those steps be right?

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faint zealot
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im just trying to find F'(x)

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its what the problem says

tulip coyote
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Well, you can literally just use this

strange shore
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$F'(x) = \sin(x^6) \times 6x^5 - \sin(8x^3) \times 24x^2$

soft zealotBOT
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Herels

faint zealot
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whats a(x) and b(x) tho?

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like how would i put them in the equation

strange shore
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a(x) is 2x and b(x) = x^2 in your expression

faint zealot
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so sin( (x^2)^3 ) * 2x - sin( (2x)^3 ) * 2

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??

strange shore
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?

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why *2x ?

faint zealot
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for the b'(x)

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sry if its confusing im new to calc 1

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so idk how to write most of the things properly

faint zealot
strange shore
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basically :

$\frac{d}{dx}\int_{a(x)}^{b(x)} f(t) dt= F'(b(x)) - F'(a(x))$

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Herels

strange shore
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where $F'(x) = f(x)$

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Herels

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basically :

$\frac{d}{dx}\int_{a(x)}^{b(x)} f(t) dt= \frac{d}{dx} \left(F(b(x)) - F(a(x)) \right) = F'(b(x)) - F'(a(x))$

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Herels

strange shore
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and $F'(b(x)) - F'(a(x)) = b'(x)f(b(x)) - a'(x)f(a(x))$

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Herels

faint zealot
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nvm im lost now

faint zealot
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but it has the [ f( b(x) ) * b'(x) ] - [ f( a(x) ) * a'(x) ]

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???

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isnt that all i need to find the F'(x)

strange shore
faint zealot
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k

strange shore
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with chain rule and shit

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well not sin(x^6) but there is a chain rule here

faint zealot
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ye the chain rule i did and got 2x

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after i got that i made the (x^2)^3 into x^6

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???

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the 2x goes outside in front of sin

strange shore
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thats x^6 you differentiate, not x^2

faint zealot
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so 2x * sin(x^6)

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ok

strange shore
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No

faint zealot
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?

strange shore
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I said its 6x^5 sin(x^6)

faint zealot
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wait but....

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if its b'(x) y would i apply the ^3 first and then find the b'(x)

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wouldnt i need to find the b'(x) from b(x) before doing the step with ^3

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nvm im stupid, tysm for the help.

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Anyone that can help me out to start of? I seam to get a grasp on how I am suppose to start :/

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What would a suitable change of variables be to solve this integral?

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terse dagger
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Culinder but elliptic

maiden current
terse dagger
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You can try both i dont know for sure which is best

maiden current
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understandable

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well then I feel a bit more confident im on the right track

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small inlet
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anyone able to find the derivative of the equation?

fickle crater
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sup dr senku

small inlet
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yo whats up 🤣

fickle crater
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ngl

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that derivative scares me

small inlet
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yeah

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im not sure how to do it

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even when i put it on a app it still wasn't correct

tranquil pine
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nah

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just look at i

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it

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you need to use

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the uh

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chain rule if

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you make a substituion that

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2.6 times square x = 0

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t*

small inlet
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i dont understand

tranquil pine
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you know how the chain rule works right

small inlet
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yes

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topaz siren
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How can I show these are equal?

royal gust
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Can always just compute each side separately and show they simplify to the same thing

topaz siren
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How can we compute, for example, the first one?

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Using cofactor method?

royal gust
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Sure! Any method that can take down a 3x3 really

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I like this one, it's worth knowing.

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spring violet
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Did I get the right equation for this ?

tranquil pine
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,w maclaurin of sin(ax)

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tranquil pine
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Ding ding!

spring violet
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Sick!! Thank you haha

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How goes it btw ?

tranquil pine
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Oh what do you mean?

spring violet
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Ahh you’ve helped me a few times just saying hey

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Always appreciate it. Thank you !

tranquil pine
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Oh yeah ahaha I am just chilling, I am mainly done with calculus, I am kind of stressed out with discrete math stuff instead now ahaha

strange shore
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what kind of discrete maths

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👀EYES EYES

spring violet
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That’s me next semester! Got 2 discrete math courses gonna be spinning I think haha

tranquil pine
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Etc

spring violet
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Proving shit to death !

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spring violet
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I had a python lab using a graph that's as deep as i've gone, hopefully it clicks for you !

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slate girder
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What did I do wrong? Answer should be -2i

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what is C

slate girder
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From i to -i

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full mango
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Is the answer 518.4

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Could you please also close the other channel you have open (20) too?

full mango
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Sorry my bad

tulip coyote
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It's all good, thank you happy

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How did you get your [£]518.4, if you don't mind me asking?

full mango
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I did 1.2 x 432

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I think I'm supposed to do 1.1 x 432 then do the answer x 1.2

tulip coyote
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Hmmm I don't think I agree with what I think you're trying

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If I decrease something by, say, 30%, then increase what I get from that by 30%, would I get my original number back?

full mango
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I didn't add 10% and 20%

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Did I setup the integral below correctly? By drawing the region, it's clear that $ 0 \leq \theta \leq 2\pi$ and letting $x = r\cos(\theta)$, $y = r\sin(\theta)$, $D$ becomes $1 \leq r^2 \leq 4$ which is the same as $1 \leq r \leq 2$, therefore the new integral is $\int^{2\pi}{0}{\int{2}^{1}{r^3\cos(\theta)\ln(r^2) dr}d\theta}$

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Chippotle Maths

mystic quartz
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Just wondering if I setted up the integral correctly since I'm unsure if I did some mistake integrating or if I described the region wrong

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lament eagle
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heyy

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karmic lark
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hey

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btw i know a lot about maths

maiden canopy
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well you never know lot about maths

karmic lark
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what do u need help with

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i know 8th grade math which is decent

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harvard level

maiden canopy
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hmm

karmic lark
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shes into me

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@lament eagle Did you have a question? Because I'm kind of afraid of what this channel is about to turn into

karmic lark
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nono dont worry be patient

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im waiting

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rare quarry
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is this MML

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im getting flashbacks

random niche
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what that

rare quarry
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what platform is that question on

random niche
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ya it says mylab

rare quarry
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mymathlab and mastering

random niche
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yup

rare quarry
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so go ahead and tell me what ur struggling on

random niche
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what is v and w?

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and i and j

rare quarry
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v and w are the vectors defined there

random niche
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i tried just multiplying them together like with foil and it said wrong

rare quarry
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and i and j are just part of the definition of a vector

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so first of all, do you know what a vector is?

random niche
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not really

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my teacher always gives us stuff we dont know yet

rare quarry
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ok so i would recommend getting that down first

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what's a vector?

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and then come back to the question

random niche
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line with arrow

rare quarry
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do you have a book?

random niche
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direction?

rare quarry
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what class is this

random niche
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precalc

rare quarry
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do you have a textbook? or does your teacher assign you videos

random niche
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assigns us online textbook but its very convoluted and doesnt get to the point in a way i understand

rare quarry
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oh i see

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well in any case, whats a vector?

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and how is it related to i and j

random niche
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a direction and i and j are before and after?

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gloomy fossil
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Graphing cos and sine fucntions, I have a problem but am stuck on graphic the phase shift

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Should I send the problem in here

vital crag
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yes

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and your attempt

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I have gotten fsr in the equation but am confused on how the phase shift comes into play here

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Aka my D or C value

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heavy crystal
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I need help with this integral

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heavy crystal
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more specifically how they get to this cos

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I understand the other stuff but i cant for the life of me get to the cos

rain crane
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Weierstrass t formulas

heavy crystal
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could you elaborate if you dont mind

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do you mean the weierstrass theorem?

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i dont really see how its gonna help here tho

heavy crystal
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I legit did not know that existed

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I dont remember learning this though

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yeah we didnt learn this as a proper formula

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but i managed to deduce it

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19 pls!

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This unit kinda confused me. but so far I have <1,1,1> for one vector and <2,3,-1> for the other, then to my understanding I need to metricize them (?) giving me a final vector of <2,,-1,5>

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then I used points from my original point giving me 2(x-3)-1(y+1)+5(z-1)

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@ me so I get the notification pls

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it was a matrix error

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dusty harbor
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why is this true?

sweet summit
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do you ever look at your more advanced mathematics work and think "we've gone too far?"

dusty harbor
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hahah

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i havent gone far enough

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still taking introductory classes lmao

sweet summit
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what class is this for?

rare cradle
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Never seen that notation

dusty harbor
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linear algebra

sweet summit
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wut

dusty harbor
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its the adjoint

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the dagger

sweet summit
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ah we didn't get to this in our LA course

dusty harbor
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means conjugate transpose

rare cradle
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Is L a matrix

dusty harbor
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yes

rare cradle
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Or linear map

dusty harbor
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a linear map is a matrix

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L is an operator

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so its a linear map from dim n to dim n

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nxn matrix

rare cradle
dusty harbor
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not?

rare cradle
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Cuz with a matrix you need to specify a basis

dusty harbor
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what do you mean exactly

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do you mean as in L is not necessarily a matrix but [L]_epsilon is?

rare cradle
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Yea what does the epsilon mean

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And what does G mean

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I'd say let's just say that L is a matrix for simplicity

dusty harbor
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G is the metric tensor

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or metric matrix

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same thing

rare cradle
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Damn forgot what that was

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Isn't it for specifying the basis for a dot product

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Or smth

dusty harbor
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sort of yeah

sweet summit
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this scares me

dusty harbor
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it should

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(n't)

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shell scroll
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Did I draw the reimann sum properly?This is the homework for an introductory lesson on Reimann sums

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<@&286206848099549185>

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viral belfry
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looks like it to me

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Ok, thank you

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Is there such a concept of $$\frac{d}{dx}!$$ There is some sort of fractional derivative (many definitions, but none are "right"). Does such a thing exist too?

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ohNoiAmHere

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Not universally defined

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is there something like fractional ones that arent universally defined either?

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Fractional what

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Oh derivatives

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yea, theres nothing like that for factorials

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cause theres many fractional derivatives

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and theyre usually defined off integration

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is there a sort of thing for the factorial too?

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are these right

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2x + 8 = 28?

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No

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Pretty sure you still need similar shapes concept

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Meaning ratios still

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oh

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what should I do

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Same process that you did for the other problems

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Except this time, you don't have x, it's 2x + 8

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quick question

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how do I know which order to put the sides in

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to solve for the missing side

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How did you do it for the other problems?

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tbh

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I could barley do those

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cheated on 1

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and for 2 and 3

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I just got help but they didnt really help tbh

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they just kinda told me the equation

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Here's a video that should help

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ty

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@grim badger

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I think I learned it

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Looks right

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what u think

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hi

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Because 14 * 32 is not 768

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wtf

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oops

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idk how I even got that

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@grim badger

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looking back on number 2

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wouldnt it be this?

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it looks wrong but

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arnt the angles equal this way

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isnt HU = FH

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they literally gave the measures of HF(84) and HU(45)

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84 is not equal to 45

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he was previously helping me

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im watching this video

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idk its confusing me

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like

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these should be correct then right

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idu what u r saying

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idk bruv

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are these correct

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yea ig

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theyre right

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so then how isnt number 2 right @slow tapir

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u myb

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FGH ~ TUH

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yea

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so

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FH/GH = TH/UH

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so 84/108 = x/45

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now solve it

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liket his

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good job

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so all these good

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really confused on D

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there is no difference right?

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yeah that was a typo in the question

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confuses me even more

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wtf do i write for this question

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Well the thing is

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The integral kind of minuses out the negative part of the graph

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So it is not the true "area"

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thank you

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I'm just learning about integrals so still a lil confused

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but u helped

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Yeah so the integral kind of subtracts the thing under the graph so to get the area

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You should write:
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\text{Area = } \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}f(x) dx+ \abs{\int_{\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}}f(x)dx}
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also what ???

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Find the measure of angle z.
help with this problem

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Which ones 65

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Use triangle sum and equate opposite angles

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dunno why they gave u those x y w and v angles you dont need em

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ahm

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hello

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first of all how can i claim a channel please?

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it's yours

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is it acc???

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it's even called chubby

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omd

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who gave it to me?

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christmas magics

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nah acc what’s going on

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anyways back to the question that i was posing like 50times

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is there a quick easy way for me to know when to use tan and when tan inverse?

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im solving some polar coordinates problems and getting confused by this point

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come on my chubbys help me i got quiz tmrw

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tan works on angles

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and doesn't give an angle

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and arctan gives an angle and doesn't work on angles

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and it's the same idea as with sine and cos, the "basic" function with a shorter name is the one that works on angles

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ok i've no idea, maybe there's something called tan inverse and it's not what i think

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thats the tan inverse im talking about

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it got mince one above it

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ALSO that question

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i never get the same answer as (which is 0.714) in the question even tho im putting the same values in my calculator

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i got 0.0124

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and tan inverse give me ≈35°

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OHHHH wait i think they just use tan inverse in these questions, they got 216° cos they added 180° to 35° which u should do

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common awful math notation/jargon catthumbsup

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lol gotta be having a meaning behind it but still

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doesn't make it not awful

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is the answer a?

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s

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indeed

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thats acc really lovely that i have my own channels ima be posing questions all the time no one can say nothing

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no it hasn’t

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dont take the channel away from me

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calculate the magnitude of all the vectors using the equation for R = sqrt(...) above

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waaiiittt

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,calc sqrt(5)

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Result:

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# vital crag Why 5

urm bcs they wanted the magnitude and to find it u have to square root the given number, and since i have one component i dont have to do any operations

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you still have something to plug into the right side

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thats stupid it cant be that hard to get

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bcs on the 3rd option we just got one

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which well be z (which they should have added to their role)

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riemann

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don't know why your book only gave the formula for two components

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Here,
Avec = [Ax, Ay, Az] = [2, 5, 0]
Bvec = [Bx, By, Bz] = [0, -3, 0]
Cvec = [Cx, Cy, Cz] = [0, 0, 5]

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the way you describe it sounds like you haven't calculated anything

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there u go

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<@&268886789983436800>

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If f : [a,b] to R is riemann integrable, is g : [a,b] to R also riemann integrable?

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r and g seem independent of each other

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If f is riemann integrable on some interval, is g riemann integrable on the exact same interval? It is unknown if f=g, but it is possible.

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can you just screenshot or take a picture of the problem

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I'm just saying in general. Are two functions, (let's just say that they are different), RI on the same interval if one of the functions is?

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Need help with this improper integral

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try the substitution u = 2 - arctan(x)

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How did they pick the interval [0,250] in this optimization problem?

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It would be really funny if the fence had a length of -100

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It's gotta make sense

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You can't have negative length

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Or rather negative area

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why [0,250] instead of (0,250)

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Because you have 0 area

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And also makes critical points easier

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what have you tried?

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solving for v1 in second eqn and subbing it in first eqn

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gave me 0=0

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do you have any other ideas?

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the matrix stuff

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the calculator said to first multiply row 1 by (1+i)/4

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thats one way of doing it yeah

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then divide it by 2-2i

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that didnt match up when i did it by hand

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i dont think you need to divide?

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you defo dont need to

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oh

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(x-h)^3-x^3

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Having trouble with question C, some help would be appreciated

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Partial sum of first 5 terms is simply the sum of the first 5 terms of the sequence. If you've figured out the common ratio r, and are able to find the 6th term, then finding the sum of the first 5 terms should follow

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If Sin(theta) < 0 and tan(theta) = 5/3, 0<=theta<360, then theta, correct to the nearest whole angle must be

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Do you know the unit circle and what these trig functions mean?

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f(x)= 1/x

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Why would this be a odd function ?

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Because $f(x) \neq f(-x)$

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because f(x)= -f(-x)

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I'm getting two different answers

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The answers aren't different when you properly look at them.

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Yes, I wanted them to work the - for themself

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Hello, i have a problem with a polynomal division and how to get to the result.

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it solves to = (2x-) * 1/2x + 1/4 + (1/((4(2x-1)))

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the asymptote <= 1/2x+1/4

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y=

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the numerator is xx^2(x-1)

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aka u can simplify the fraction by cancelling

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so it would be like x^3(x-1) so i can cancel out to x^3/(x(2x-1)) = x^2/(2x-1) ?

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yup!!!

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and this simplified term i need to use for the polynomal division to find the y for the asymptote?

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I need help setting this up

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I know that the radius of the sphere is 2

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but what goes in the integrand is confusing me

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yeah, isn't that necessary for surface area?

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yes

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would I use spherical coordinates as well?

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I'm not familiar with this, someone else will help you

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set up like this, right?

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We have that z = f(x, y) = sqrt(4 - x^2 - y^2) = sqrt(4 - r^2) .
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can someone help me with this:

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distant breach
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im confused on where to start atm

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You see how the function is a fraction?

distant breach
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mhm

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the domain is based off the bottom part right?

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Yep

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If you divide by 0, the function becomes undefined

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So you basically find all the x values that make the function not work basically

distant breach
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o

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ok so basically 1 and -1?

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assume that a function's domain is $\bR$ and then chop off the points that dont match that

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aka when 1/0 for example

distant breach
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so from what im getting/understanding, domain should be (-infinity, -1) U (-1,1) U (1, infinity)

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inbetween -1 and 1? thinkspin

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o wait

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right

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The x values are correct but the condition needs some tweaking

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yeah there u go

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distant breach
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then x = -1 and x = 1 are my vertical asymptotes too

supple mantle
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Yep

tranquil pine
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yes

distant breach
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how would i find intercepts?

supple mantle
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What about the horizontal ones?

distant breach
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o

tranquil pine
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wait

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wait

tranquil pine
distant breach
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oh

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it is removeable

distant breach
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wdym by removable

tranquil pine
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because

supple mantle
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admira you took Limits I'm assuming right?

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You know how they work?

distant breach
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ive learnt about them somewhat but not rly

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it was like a class..

supple mantle
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Damn

tranquil pine
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[
\lim_{x \to -1} (\frac{x^2 -x}{x^2 -1}) = \text{DNE}
]
[
\lim_{x \to 1} (\frac{x^2 -x}{x^2 -1}) = \frac{1}{2}
]

supple mantle
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Ok so

soft zealotBOT
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♡LexQa♡

distant breach
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so if i plug it in?

supple mantle
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Limits basically is an operation to find how the function behaves at certain points

distant breach
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oh ok

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so like increasing decreasing?

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ish

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or

supple mantle
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If they approach a certain value or not

distant breach
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oh ok

supple mantle
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Sometimes they go to infinity

tranquil pine
supple mantle
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Sometimes they don't approach anything

tranquil pine
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anyways i will go back to the Fourier shit

supple mantle
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Limits make this possible

distant breach
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so how do ik when ones a vert asymptote or horizontal asymptote?

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is it based off limits?

supple mantle
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Yep

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You take the limit

distant breach
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ok so

distant breach
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do i plug in -1 and 1 to x?

supple mantle
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You can do some factoring

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x(x-1)

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And on the denominator (x-1)(x+1)

tranquil pine
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[f(x) = 0 \text{ (tells you x intercept) }]
[x = 0 \text{ (tells you y intercept)}]
[\lim_{x \to C} f(x) \text{ (tells you vertical asymptotes for any}]
[\text{non removable infinite discontinuty C) }]
[\lim_{x \to \pm \infty} f(x) \text{ (tells you horizontal asymptotes) }]

supple mantle
soft zealotBOT
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♡LexQa♡

distant breach
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then after factoring?

supple mantle
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Yep now works

supple mantle
distant breach
distant breach
supple mantle
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Like a number

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If you got -5 for example

distant breach
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yeah

supple mantle
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Then the limit approaches -5

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And this means no asymptotes

distant breach
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im kind of lost still..

supple mantle
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Let's try the limit when x approaches-1

distant breach
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ok

supple mantle
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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow -1} \frac{x^2 - x}{x^2 - 1}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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We factored it right?

distant breach
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yes

supple mantle
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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow -1} \frac{x(x-1)}{(x-1)(x+1)}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

distant breach
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mhm

tranquil pine
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there are two types of removable discontinuities

distant breach
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o

supple mantle
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We can cancel x-1 right?

distant breach
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yes we can

supple mantle
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Now we are left with this

distant breach
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x/x+1

supple mantle
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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow -1} \frac{x}{x+1}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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Here we stop

distant breach
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and then what do we do

tranquil pine
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There are two types of removable discontinuities I believe, one where the limit is finite but the function is undefined, and second when the limit is finite but the value of that function at that point is not the same as the limit's.

You are having the first case with x = 1

supple mantle
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We need to see if the value from the right equals the value from the left

supple mantle
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If we plug in -1, we get -1/0 right?

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0 by nature doesn't have any signs

distant breach
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yeah

supple mantle
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So we need to see if we added a sign to 0

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Will the function behave the same or not

distant breach
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wdym by a sign

supple mantle
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-0 and +0

distant breach
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oh ok

supple mantle
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If we made 0 negative, the function goes to + infinity

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And if we made the 0 positive

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The function goes to - infinity

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Now here does the limit from the left equal the limit on the right?

distant breach
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im sorry about this again..

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but how do yk it'll go to positive

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infinity

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and negative infinity

supple mantle
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We add signs to the zero

distant breach
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yeah

supple mantle
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$$\lim_{x \rightarrow -1} \frac{x}{x+1} = \frac{-1}{-1+1}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

distant breach
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oh

supple mantle
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$$\frac{-1}{0}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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We're gonna be unsure about the behavior of the function if we kept the zero with a sign

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So we take the limit from the left

distant breach
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ok..

supple mantle
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And the limit from the right

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Lemme try showing this on a graph

distant breach
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wait

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ok so thats the thing

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how do i know without the graph

supple mantle
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Seeing a zero on the denominator should be a red flag to you

distant breach
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o like that

supple mantle
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Yep

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You should expect 2 things

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It either becomes (infinity or negative infinity)

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Or the limit doesn't exist

distant breach
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ok ok..

supple mantle
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The limit does not exist when

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You have 2 different values from the left and from the right

distant breach
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ok..

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yeach could you show me on a graph..its confusing me a bit

supple mantle
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Alrighty

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This is a graph of 1/x

distant breach
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o

supple mantle
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You see how around x = 0

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The function goes into 2 places?

distant breach
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mhm..

supple mantle
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From the left, it goes down

distant breach
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yeah

supple mantle
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From the right, it goes up

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This means that the limit doesn't exist at x=0

distant breach
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so what does that tell us

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that its discontinuity?

supple mantle
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Yep

distant breach
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but how would ik if its horizontal or vertical?

supple mantle
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You take the limit of x at a finite number

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That's vertical

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But when you take the limit for x at infinity

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That's horizontal

distant breach
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is there another way to figure it out..

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i really dont remember doing this in class

supple mantle
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You need to solve more limits to understand it

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Because 1 class isn't enough

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Lemme give you an example

distant breach
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the thing is that our prof never really even went over limits

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im in precalc atm

supple mantle
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$\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{x^2 -x}{x^2 - 1}$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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What will this find you?

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Vertical or horizontal?

distant breach
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since its infinity

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horizontal

supple mantle
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Yep

distant breach
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can i send u an example that my prof did?

supple mantle
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Sure

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Here's a graph of your function

distant breach
supple mantle
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The dotted line is the horizontal asymptote

distant breach
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this is what he showed us for notes

supple mantle
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That's

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That's sad

distant breach
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🥲

supple mantle
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He didn't explain why this works

distant breach
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not rly

supple mantle
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All of that works through limits

distant breach
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oh

supple mantle
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Ok don't worry about it

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You can take the limit by going super close to the value

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Like

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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow -1} \frac{x^2 - x}{x^2 - 1} = \frac{(-1.001)^2 - (-1.001)}{(-1.001)^2 - 1}$$

distant breach
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o

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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If this worked

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Then you try from the other side

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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow -1} \frac{x^2 - x}{x^2 - 1} = \frac{(-0.999)^2 - (-0.999)}{(-0.999)^2 - 1}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

distant breach
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whats the way he was trying to show then?

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the n = m things

supple mantle
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The highest powers of the numerator and denominator

distant breach
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and the reason it works is because of limits?

supple mantle
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Yep

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When you have this for example

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$$\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{x^2 - x}{x^2 - 1}$$

soft zealotBOT
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VulcanOne

supple mantle
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You take x and replace it with a big number

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Like 1000000

distant breach
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o

supple mantle
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Now 1 compared 1000000^2 is like comparing an ant to the sky

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In size

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Same thing for 1000000 compared to 1000000^2

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So you take only x with the highest powers from the numerator and denominator

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And the coefficients do the job for you

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1 minute brb

distant breach
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ok

supple mantle
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Oki I'm back

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That's the reason why taking the highest powers works

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There is also something else relating to how fast functions approach infinity

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Which is called "the list"

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That's something else you'll take in the future

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Anyways

distant breach
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o

distant breach
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i think i kinda get the limits thingy

supple mantle
distant breach
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i have my final tmr :')

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well today.

supple mantle
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Damn

distant breach
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been up all night studying loll

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its 5 am atm

supple mantle
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What

distant breach
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yeppp..

supple mantle
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Damn

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How much left do you have?

distant breach
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uh

supple mantle
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For studies and time?

distant breach
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  • 1 hr of driving to campus
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5 hours

supple mantle
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Wow

distant breach
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:') yep

supple mantle
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Are you sure you can pull it off?

distant breach
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nope

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ive been calculating my grade

supple mantle
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Wait don't

distant breach
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i need a 62% to pass the class on this final.

supple mantle
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You're gonna hopefully pass

distant breach
distant breach
cobalt lodge
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there's always scaling

distant breach
supple mantle
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You'll do good I'm sure

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He means taking the grade of the highest performing person and scaling all the others based off on that score

distant breach
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my prof would never do that