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terse dagger
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compared to x being bigger than 0

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when x > 0 you use 1 - 4x^2

warm summit
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OH

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Okay so I just got lucky with the other two

terse dagger
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i think so

warm summit
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🗿 it worked ty

terse dagger
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i think you accidentally got the right answer without knowing what a piecewise function means 😄

warm summit
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Yes I literally just learned it somewhat like 15 mins ago

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jovial ermine
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HI I had to find the taylor series for sin(x) and sin (x^3) at a=0. For sin (x^3) would all the terms of the polynomial just be 0?

desert mantle
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no

jovial ermine
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i was thinking that because if I get the 4 derivatives then all the terms would have an x in them

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so if i sub x=0 then all the terms become 0?

desert mantle
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not all of them

jovial ermine
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im unsure which terms don't become 0?

distant hawk
desert mantle
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shh don't spoil it

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the first term that doesn't vanish is x^3

distant hawk
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Well you may still want to show steps even if intuitively using previous result make sense. But at least this can serve as a hint on what you should expect during these derivative calculations in sin x^3 🙂

desert mantle
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but well the next one would be x^9, so finding that by hand would take a while

jovial ermine
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ill just think about this some more and get back to this

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so i think the reason im confused is because even if i substitute x^3 into the first taylor series, the corresponding derivatives (which i calculated a couple on the bottom) would have an x in every term. So when i sub in x=0 into the above series all numerators of all the factorials would be 0?

jovial ermine
desert mantle
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let me reword: the first coefficient that doesn't vanish is the coefficient of x^3 in the taylor series

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the coefficients before that are 0, yes

jovial ermine
desert mantle
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yes

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intuitively, eventually when you differentiate polynomials enough, you get a constant which is nonzero

jovial ermine
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oh lol i stopped right before that term because i assumed they will all have an x term in them

desert mantle
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when you then differentiate again the constant vanishes so you have to start "over". but eventually you will get a constant somewhere again

jovial ermine
desert mantle
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well what happens when you differentiate x^3 a couple of times?

jovial ermine
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ahh the x term is eventually gone

desert mantle
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yes

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that will happen for every polynomial eventually. and here you kind of have to wait until the stars "align" and the constant is not multiplied by sin(x^3) and so on. but when that happens, you get something nonzero

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in this case every 6 terms

jovial ermine
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alright i think i understand now, thank you Denascite 🙂

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quick phoenix
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How can I calculate arctan(3/2) without calculator?

tired walrus
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you can't

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quick phoenix
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And I came with arctan(3/2). Is there any other way to solve arg(z)?

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tranquil pine
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i dont think u can calculate that by hand

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atleast not in a easy way

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brittle ember
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anyone can explain to me why by comparing those 2, we get the equation

distant hawk
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Consider row(1) - row(2)

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$-x^3 - C_2(x) = C_1(t) - 2t^3$

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jimmy1234

distant hawk
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LHS and RHS are expressions in different variables. The only way to equate them is to impose LHS = 0 = RHS.

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Hence “by comparing the two” we get what h(x) is.

brittle ember
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then how about the $xln sin(t)$?

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brittle ember
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those infront

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for this right?

brittle ember
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$h(t,x)$ is $xln sin(t)-x^3 +2t^2$

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jimmy1234

brittle ember
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yes but i wanna know how to find h(x,t)

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the answer $h(t,x)$ is $xln sin(t)-x^3 +2t^2$, but u said it vanished

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distant hawk
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I mean when you subtract the two partials, the term will vanish.

And the reason why i do the subtraction is because I want to show you why “comparing the two” can give you the full form of $h$.

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jimmy1234

brittle ember
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what is the full form of $h$?

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grim nebula
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you can see x log sin t cancels out on both sides

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so rearranging gives you

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grim nebula
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but the left doesnt depend on t and the right doesnt depend on x

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well

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not equal

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but

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theyre both constant

brittle ember
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yes

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how do I get $h(x, t)$?

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brittle ember
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this equation here

grim nebula
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wait i totally messed it up

brittle ember
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hmm?

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grim nebula
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because they cant depend on x and t at the same time

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grim nebula
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if you substitute that back into any of the equations for h(t, x)

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you get

brittle ember
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ok i get what ur saying now

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brittle ember
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okok understood completely

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thanks

grim nebula
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very good

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tranquil pine
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Due to insecurities i must know if this is mathematically correct or accurate.

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void crest
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sees right

tranquil pine
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Ight thak you

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tranquil pine
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AC = AD
AB = CD
angle CAD = 20
I have to find angle ABD

tranquil pine
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I tried using isosceles triangle and I managed to find angle ACD and angle ADC but I don't know what do to now

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!15m

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grim nebula
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kekw jk

tranquil pine
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..

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can u help me?

grim nebula
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can i 🤔

brittle ember
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,rotate

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idk if can solved in this way

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just trying it out

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just using sin rule

tranquil pine
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sry i havent learnt sin yet

brittle ember
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what

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can it be solved without sin rule

grim nebula
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LOL

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some scrap paper youve got there

brittle ember
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yea

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just scrap paper no worries

grim nebula
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dont doxx yourself

tranquil pine
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I was told I should use properties of triangles

brittle ember
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i guess is the isosceles part only

tranquil pine
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I learnt similar congruent and equilateral triangles as well

brittle ember
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u got learn area of triangle?

tranquil pine
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half base * height

brittle ember
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$(1/2) absin(c)$

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tranquil pine
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I have never seen that

brittle ember
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what grade are u in?

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primary 5?

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like 11 y/old?

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alright

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then u shouldn't be learning that sin in ur syllabus

grim nebula
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absin

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tranquil pine
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yea im 13

grim nebula
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its against the ts n cs

brittle ember
tranquil pine
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im old for my grade yes

brittle ember
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btw

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did the person tell u what property u shud use?

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like which property of triangle

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cuz there are many

tranquil pine
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i dont quite remember

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i think its congruent triangle?

wet moon
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I think I’ve seen a similar problem before… I think for many of these problems just construct an equilateral triangle and the problem is magically solved

tranquil pine
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How do I do that?

wet moon
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Idk, still trying

grim nebula
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ELON

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ELON MASK

wet moon
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??

brittle ember
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AHAHAHA

tranquil pine
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yea cool name lol

wet moon
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Btw I think I solved it

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xd

tranquil pine
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How

wet moon
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||Construct E such that ADE is equilateral as shown. Then AD = AE so after angle chasing one can find angle ADE = 70
But notice that triangles BAD and DCE are congruent. So angle ABD = angle CDE = 150. ||

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Goofy problem

tranquil pine
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OHHH

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I get it now

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thanks @wet moon

brittle ember
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i think ur the real musk

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clever indeed

tranquil pine
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Yes yes

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genius haha

brittle ember
wet moon
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I don’t really like these problems they’re like “haha construct this and done”

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:/

tranquil pine
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Is there a way to do it without adding a triangle?

brittle ember
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sin rule

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but u haven't learn it

wet moon
brittle ember
tranquil pine
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aw so maybe ill learn it in awhile

wet moon
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xd

brittle ember
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hm

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requires time

grim nebula
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somehow the diagram is horribly out of scale

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tropic sentinel
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Whats a good strategy for graphing this

peak oyster
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You can really grpah this function by visualising it, at least it is the only way i know how. Since sin(x) only alternates, and y=x is a linear line, you should expect the graph to have a decreasing amplitudeas you approach infinity.

tropic sentinel
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Can you show me how you would?

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So should I just know what the graph of sinx/x looks like then move it up to y=1 and so on

peak oyster
tropic sentinel
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Ok that makes sense

peak oyster
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Sorry i made a mistake. Should be as x approached infinity, f(x) becomes smaller

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Graph is ok though i think

tropic sentinel
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Do you know how to do part b?

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nevermind l hopitals rule

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jade lantern
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doesnt't 1-2(x+1) lead to 1-2x-2 ?

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jade lantern
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how come they have -2x-1 then?

near spoke
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what's 1-2

jade lantern
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ahh ofccc...

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tranquil pine
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how do i solve this

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tranquil pine
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i take 24 to the left side or 122 to the right side

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then square root everything?

chrome cove
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To do that you have to make sure that what's on the other side of the __x² term is positive, and just then you can take the square root, remember that you can only square root positive numbers in the real numbers

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Also, doing that doesn't really help

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You need to have x² on one side

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With what you said, we get
-2x² + 122 = 24
-2x² - 24 = -112

grizzled tusk
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Easier:
add 2x² and substract 24

chrome cove
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Try moving stuff around and doing other operations until you get x² = ....

tranquil pine
chrome cove
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same thing

tranquil pine
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i get x^2=-36

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what to do right here

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nvm

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on this i did

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-b+- square root of b^2 -4ac over 2a

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and i get

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-8+- square root of 52 over 2

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idk what to do now

grizzled tusk
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you can simplify

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otherwise you have the answer, there's nothing else to do

tranquil pine
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i5t says incorrect

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oh do i simplify 52

grizzled tusk
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sqrt(52) = sqrt(4)sqrt(13)= 2sqrt(13)

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because 52 = 4*13

tranquil pine
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it says wrong

grizzled tusk
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so in the end, the answers can be written as -4-sqrt(13) and -4+sqrt(13)
your answers are right too, tho, so maybe it's expecting decimal form

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the answers are right, it's a matter of how the site expects you to write them unfortunately

tranquil pine
grizzled tusk
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that's equal to your answers, the site was just expecting you write them in this form

tranquil pine
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how do i get to that answer

grizzled tusk
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by completely simplifying

tranquil pine
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from mine

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when i have 2 as a denominator

grizzled tusk
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replace sqrt(52)

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then simplify

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(-8+2sqrt(13))/2 = -4+sqrt(13)

tranquil pine
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from here

grizzled tusk
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-8/2 = -4

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and it's supposed to be 2sqrt(13)

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2sqrt(13)/2 = sqrt(13)

tranquil pine
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oh bruh

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i forgot to square 4

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to 2

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sad

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what level math is this?

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tranquil pine
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hello

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i get

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6+- square root of 136 over 2

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if i do 4 times 34

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and get 2 square root 34

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do i have to do now 4 times 8

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and 2 square root 8

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then 4 times 2

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2 square root 2

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$\int W(x) dx = \int f^{-1}(x) dx$

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tranquil pine
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Not sure where to go from here

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btw, just for reference

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$f(a) = ae^a = W(f(a)) = a$

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??

frigid sierra
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last dollar sign

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no space

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Oh lol

frigid sierra
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HAAHA

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idk latex

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In mathematics, the Lambert W function, also called the omega function or product logarithm, is a multivalued function, namely the branches of the converse relation of the function f(w) = wew, where w is any complex number and ew is the exponential function.
For each integer k there is one branch, denoted by Wk(z), which is a complex-valued func...

frigid sierra
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I only know the $ placement

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what is this omg

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is this uni lvl

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yes

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no proof though

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ok i see thx

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i have no idea what i'm doing with either #5 or #6 here

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i don't even understand what the questions are asking me

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the meme where what the teacher teaches and how difficult the test is in comparison is very true here

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because this was on just the previous page:

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#5: The f be the function given by 9 + 2xe ^ -(x-4) / cos( x / 2 )

The Intermediate Value Theorem applied on *f* on the closed interval [24, 28] guarantees a solution in (24, 48) to which of the following equations?

a) f(x) = 0
b) f(x) = 9.090
c) f(x) = 12.235
d) f(x) = 76.999
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here's number 5 in a written out format ^

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not a mistake

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but okay

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oak arrow
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Is the answer 60? I did (4x6)+2(6x3)

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trail mango
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I got something else but I might be wrong

distant hawk
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A more clever way is to realize that, you have 9 steps to be made, 6 right-move and 3 up-move. You just have to mess with generating different patterns of RRRRRRUUU.

trail mango
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yea that's what I was thinking lol

distant hawk
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Think about how n-choose-r can help you solve the problem 🙂

oak arrow
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh that makes so much sense!

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thank you so much, i really appreciate it

oak arrow
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i got 84

oak arrow
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i never woulda thought to do that lol

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oak arrow
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so i feel like the answer is just 3! but that seems way too simple i feel like im missing something:

oak arrow
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please @ me if anyone knows

trail mango
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yea it does seem that simple to me lol

grim nebula
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why does it say (but separate beds)

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would they be sleeping in the same bed?

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sqrt

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sqrt(t)/t^2

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I am trying to use my exponent laws but I've hit a road block

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sqrt(t)=t^1/2

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(t^1/2)/t^2

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silver cloud
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Yo tbh I would like some help w my algebra 1 class I can’t fail yk

silver cloud
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Tbh I’m stuck at these types of questions

cold gorge
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Expand

silver cloud
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?

cold gorge
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Expand 4(-9w-4)

silver cloud
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So

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-36w-16

cold gorge
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Write the entire thing.

silver cloud
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O

cold gorge
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9w - 36w - 16...

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Like that

silver cloud
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9w-36w-16>w+1+7

cold gorge
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Yes.

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Now take all the w's together.

green verge
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Combine like terms.

silver cloud
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-26w>1+7

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Then

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-26w>8

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Then the part im confused about is here

weary lake
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Isolate the variable w

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Wait

silver cloud
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-.3?

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W>-0.3

junior patrol
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Can someone teach me what is 3 and 4 above 6 divided by 2 and 6 above 8

silver cloud
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34/6 divided by 6/8?

green verge
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I believe you have an algebra error.

weary lake
silver cloud
junior patrol
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Mixed number

silver cloud
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O

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Ight hold on let me do what I’m doing rq

green verge
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Essentially in problems like this, you move all of the w's on one side, and all of the whole numbers on the other side.

junior patrol
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3- 4/6 ÷ 2 6/8

green verge
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Trying to combine like terms and isolate the variable.

silver cloud
weary lake
green verge
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3/1

weary lake
weary lake
silver cloud
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-27

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oh no shit-

green verge
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-27w - 16 > w +8

weary lake
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Then subtract w from both sides

green verge
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is what you should have from that then

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Move the whole number on the left to the right, and the w on the right to the left.

silver cloud
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OH

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so

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-8<-28w

green verge
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What about the 16.

silver cloud
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?

green verge
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When you distributed this 4(9w-4)

weary lake
silver cloud
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I don’t got paper on me n it’s p/o me

weary lake
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Ok say we are at -27w-16>w+8

silver cloud
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Yeah

green verge
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Do you see where the 16 came from?

weary lake
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How do you remove the -27w from the left side?

silver cloud
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Subtract -27 and add it to the other side

silver cloud
weary lake
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It’s negative

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So you have to do the opposite of negative

silver cloud
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Add

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So

weary lake
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Yea

rigid iris
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Dont mind me lurking

silver cloud
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Add -27w to 1w

weary lake
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Well what I meant was

rigid iris
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Is the answer in fraction?

weary lake
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You just add 27w

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Not sure

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Because a minus cancels out with the negative

green verge
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Well, you are trying to remove 27 from the side, so you wouldn't add the negative, you would add the whole number, just like you would subtract to remove a positive number.

silver cloud
weary lake
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So technically you are subtracting -27w from both sides

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But since there are two negatives from that, you end up adding 27w to both sides

weary lake
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So after doing that

silver cloud
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So then

weary lake
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What is your equation

silver cloud
green verge
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If you are trying to do this in your head, it would be significantly easier if you could write it down.

silver cloud
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-27w-16>w+8
+27. +27
-16>28w+8
+8 -8
——————-
8>28W

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Is that correct?

weary lake
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Watch the -16

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Make sure not to drop the negative sign

green verge
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It is negative 16 on the left side.

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so it is -16-8

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-16 - 8 > 28w

silver cloud
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Did I fix it right?

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-27w-16>w+8
+27. +27
-16>28w+8
-8 -8
——————-
-24>28W

green verge
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Always remember, when you do something on one side, it must happen to the other.

weary lake
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You have to perform the same operation to both sides

green verge
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If you subtract the 8 from one side, it must be subtracted from the other.

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Not added.

weary lake
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So the right side is correct

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The left side has to mimic the right though

silver cloud
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-27w-16>w+8
+27. +27
-16>28w+8
-8 -8
——————-
-24>28W

weary lake
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Yes

silver cloud
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Ok

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Now what?

weary lake
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Then you isolate w

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That 28 has to move to the other side

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So what operation do you do

silver cloud
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28W<-24

silver cloud
green verge
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You want to get w all by itself, because if you look at your answer, you are solving for the inequality of a number compared to w alone.

weary lake
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I mean like do you divide, add, multiply, subtract

green verge
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If we have -28w > 24, how do we get w by itself and get the 28 away.

silver cloud
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Divide?

weary lake
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What do you do to move the 28 in front of w to the other side

green verge
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Yes.

weary lake
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Yes

green verge
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Once you devide the -28 from one side, it must occur on the otherside aswell.

silver cloud
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28W<-24
——. ——
28. 28

W<-.8

weary lake
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Your dividing on the right side

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Because the 28 is technically multiplying by the w before you do this

silver cloud
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Wdym

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So

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28W<-24
——. ——-
-24. -24

weary lake
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You want to isolate w

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So yes, you divide by the same number for both

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But it’s the number that is with w

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So in this case you divide by 28

rigid iris
silver cloud
rigid iris
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The last part howd u get w<8

green verge
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You just turned it into a decimal.

rigid iris
green verge
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Some teachers won't allow you to turn it into a decimal and want it as a fraction though.

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So it is important to know how to do that as well.

silver cloud
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Ok

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That’s kinda stu***-

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But makes sense

green verge
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If you wanted to turn -24/28 into a simple fraction, what would it be?

weary lake
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It allows an exact answer

green verge
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A demical is long and more like an estimate.

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Since we don't write down the whole decimal that may be 100s of characters long.

silver cloud
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So

green verge
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To find a more simple fraction out of a bigger raction, you find the greatest common factor out of both numbers, and divide them both by that number.

silver cloud
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-24/28 is -4/5?

green verge
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Nothing multiplied by 5 can equal 28.

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So that can't be it.

silver cloud
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O

weary lake
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What can you multiply together to get 24?

green verge
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You have to find the biggest number that can go into 24 and 28.

silver cloud
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4

green verge
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Yes 4 is the biggest number.

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So now you find -24/4 and 28/4

silver cloud
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Wdym

green verge
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Since 4 is the biggest number that goes into both -24 and 28.

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You must simplify the numbers by dividing both of them by 4

silver cloud
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-6 and 7

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Right?

weary lake
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Yes

green verge
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there you go.

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the simplified version of -24/28

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is

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-6/7

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that's the exact answer

silver cloud
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-6

7

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THANK YOUUU

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😭😭😭

weary lake
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If you want an explanation for why that is

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A property for fractions is

silver cloud
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Na I don’t need one🥳
But Fr thank you for the help

weary lake
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If you multiply the same number on both the top and bottom, it equals the same thing

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Ok

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No

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Np

green verge
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Yw

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i think the command is .close or something to close this

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Yeah

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.close

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Bro

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I think the bot glitched 💀

grim badger
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It takes a few minutes for it to actually close

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oh

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Hello, in Collatz conjecture how do you find lowest number in given iteration?

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wdym by lowest number in given iteration

odd sigil
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steps

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can you give an example of exactly what you mean

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gaunt kernel
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For what quadratic equations can you use this

gaunt kernel
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because I tried to use this for another equation that I used factorising for (Which I got the answer right for btw) and I got different answers

final tangle
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For what quadratic equations can you use this
all of them

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its called the quadratic formula for a reason

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show work

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alrighjt

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alright*

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ill shiow you

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show*

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3x^2 - 33x + 54 = 0

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This I got the answers:

-2 - 9

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Since if we divide the whole thing by 3

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we get

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x^2 - 33x + 54 = 0

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I mean

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x^2 - 11x + 18 = 0

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and what numbers product together is 18

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and sum is -11

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ofc -2 and -9

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and if we put these in a equation

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x - 2 = 0

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x = 2

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x - 9 = 0

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x = 9

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now

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If I do this

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with this formula

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A = 1
B = -11
C = 18

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11 + Square root of -11^2 - (4.1.18)/2

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11 + Square root of -121 - (72)/2

final tangle
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missing a ton of ()

gaunt kernel
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yea ik

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11 + square root of 193/2

final tangle
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then write it properly

gaunt kernel
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11 +- 14/2

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11 + 14/2 = 12.5

final tangle
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because your lack of parentheses are what's causing issues

gaunt kernel
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what

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how?

final tangle
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apart from clearly indicating the numerator of your fraction here
you also seemed to have ignored that its b^2 in the QF
and after substituting in the value of b=-11,
that's the value you should be squaring

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i.e you should have had (-11)^2

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(also you're missing the - case in the QF)

gaunt kernel
final tangle
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yes it is

gaunt kernel
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same as what I wrote

final tangle
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no

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its not

gaunt kernel
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oh nevermind

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I see

final tangle
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you wrote -121

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and on top of that -121-72 is -193 not 193

gaunt kernel
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14 i

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13.892444 i

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is what I got

final tangle
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and you shouldn't be rounding like that either

gaunt kernel
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13.9?

final tangle
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you shouldn't be rounding at all

gaunt kernel
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alright

final tangle
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and this is all assuming you're continuing on from your first mistake

gaunt kernel
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ok...

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how about 13.892444 i

final tangle
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no

gaunt kernel
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what do I do abt the i

final tangle
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don't round at all

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and this is all assuming you're continuing on from your first mistake

gaunt kernel
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I didnt round

final tangle
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sqrt(193) doesn't just terminate after that many digits

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,w 13.892444^2

gaunt kernel
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so I have to keep every single digit?

final tangle
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if valid work led you up to sqrt(193) you'd keep sqrt(193) exactly as it is unless told otherwise

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but anyway as mentioned earlier,
you made mistakes that led to that, so that's not really relevant for this question

gaunt kernel
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alright

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anything else?

final tangle
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you've yet to fix the mistakes i mentioned

gaunt kernel
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yes I know

final tangle
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specifically the issue with the (-11)^2
(unless you did that and didn't tell me)

gaunt kernel
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oh

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I am meant to work it out while you talk

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alright

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X = 11 +- (square root of (121 - (4x1x18))
X = 11 +- (square root of 121 - 72)
X = 11 +- (square root of 49)
X = (11 +-7)/2

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right?

final tangle
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missing ()

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i must insist that you include those where appropriate

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and no

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b is -11,
-b is not that

gaunt kernel
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huh

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oh sorry its 11

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11 + 7/2 = 9
11 - 7/2 = 2

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oh woah

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alright I see

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(btw this is my first time doing quadratics)

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Okay thanks for the help!

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very informative and helpful

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grave oracle
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is calculus allowed or how ??

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grave oracle
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ohkk

sterile jay
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So, I don’t think calculus can be used

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I tried factorising

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But I’m not sure how to find Max and min values

grave oracle
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ohkk
I've a method in hand
lemme solve first then
may I try to explain ??

sterile jay
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Sure

grave oracle
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k

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ya got it

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u there ??

sterile jay
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Yea

grave oracle
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put y=that equation

sterile jay
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Ok

grave oracle
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y(x^2+3x+4)=x^2-3x+4

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then convert it into one equation with y in co-efficients

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ig u'll end up with
(y-1)x^2+3(y+1)x+4(y-1)=0

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understood so far ?

sterile jay
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Yea

grave oracle
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we know that x has real values right ?

sterile jay
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Yea, so D is greater or equal to 0 ryt?

grave oracle
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ya

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u'll get the range of y

sterile jay
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Ohhh I get it now

grave oracle
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so u'll get max and min ryt ??

sterile jay
grave oracle
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ahh np
just by practice u'll get ideas

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so dw

sterile jay
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Thanks, one question, if we have other questions, can I post here, or should I approach other channels?

grave oracle
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solve it and lemme know once u get

sterile jay
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Is the ans: 7, 1/7

grave oracle
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ya ya

sterile jay
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Oh grt, thanks

grave oracle
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my pleasure

sterile jay
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I have other doubts, may I post here?

grave oracle
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related to same topic ?

sterile jay
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Yea , quadratic equations

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Got a test tomo…. So trying solve as much as possible

grave oracle
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ok sure

sterile jay
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Ok 1 min

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I have no idea how to do this….

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Got any idea?

grave oracle
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use remainder theorem

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uk right ?

sterile jay
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Remainder theorem?

grave oracle
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ya

sterile jay
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Idk that

grave oracle
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if f(x) is a function
f(a) is a remainder when the function is divided by x-a

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use that

sterile jay
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So r we supposed to substitute a, B in that function?

grave oracle
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ya

sterile jay
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Should we equate the fn to 0?

grave oracle
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ya

sterile jay
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Ok lemme try

grave oracle
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like f(a)=f(b)=0

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so u'll get relations

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if I'm not wrong u shud get c ig

sterile jay
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If equate this 2 fns, constant term 2c^3 will get cancelled ryt?

grave oracle
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no no

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equate individually to 0

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f(a)=0

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f(b)=0

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like that

sterile jay
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And find X?

grave oracle
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no no

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x will be gone

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f(a) means replace x with a

sterile jay
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Using Discriminant

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And find c?

grave oracle
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no no

sterile jay
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I’m confused

grave oracle
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like this

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I'll hv my food and come

sterile jay
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Ohh ok

grave oracle
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got it ??

sterile jay
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Yea

grave oracle
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so did u get c ??

sterile jay
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Yes, like in ur pic, I found c= B

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But what abt a?

grave oracle
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find f(a)

sterile jay
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So should I substitute B in place of c in that fn?

grave oracle
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yaa

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so u'll get in a and b terms

sterile jay
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I’m not sure how to proceed

grave oracle
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no no
just tell me what u got

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I'm there to guide u dw

sterile jay
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I’m getting a^3+ 3b^2a+ 2b^3

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= 0

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Should I take a common or B common?

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If I take B common of those 2 last terms

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I’m still left with a B

grave oracle
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wait wait
here is something u need to observe
but it is hard to get in 1 try but by practice u can

sterile jay
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Ok

grave oracle
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take (a-b) common

sterile jay
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How?

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Not familiar with that

grave oracle
sterile jay
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Yea it’s - … typing mistake

grave oracle
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uk division right ?

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of polynomials

sterile jay
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Yes….

grave oracle
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divide what u got by (a-b)

sterile jay
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Ok, 1 min

grave oracle
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just ping me once u get

sterile jay
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Something like this ryt?

grave oracle
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yup

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method is crt

sterile jay
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What if all the terms have no a anymore

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The remainder will be not zero, but with B ryt?

grave oracle
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no no

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remainder will be 0

grave oracle
sterile jay
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Can u show how to divide this, cos I’m not used to doing division with more than 1 variable

grave oracle
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kk

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its simple
where it was x here it is a

sterile jay
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Ok

grave oracle
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understandable ??

sterile jay
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1 min, let me try to understand

grave oracle
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sure sure tk ur time

sterile jay
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Ok understood

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it’s simple, thanks

grave oracle
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my pleasure

sterile jay
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So what after this?

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I got a=B

grave oracle
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f(a)=(a-b)(a^2+ab-2b^2)

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so
a=b=c

sterile jay
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Okkk

grave oracle
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we know that
a(a+b)=2b^2
right ??

sterile jay
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Yes

grave oracle
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so when a=b we get tht right ?

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as well as a=-2b right ??

sterile jay
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I did this…

grave oracle
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ya ya

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now we are equating that other part to 0

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bcos optn c has one more part ryt ?

grave oracle
sterile jay
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Yess

grave oracle
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so when a=b we get tht right ?
as well as a=(-2b) right ??

sterile jay
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Wait

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How is a= -2b

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I didn’t get that part clearly

grave oracle
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a(a+b)=2b^2

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jus substitute and see

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or just factorize

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a^2+ab-2b^2=(a-b)(a+2b)

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understood ??

sterile jay
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1 min

grave oracle
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kk

sterile jay
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Ohh ok

grave oracle
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since b=c from f(b)
a=-2b=-2c

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got optn c

sterile jay
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I totally forgot abt that term a^2+ab-2b^2

grave oracle
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ohkk lol

sterile jay
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I was wondering where did u get that lol

grave oracle
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lol kk

sterile jay
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Yea got it

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Thanks

grave oracle
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nice
my pleasure !!

sterile jay
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Will u be online, got few more problems

grave oracle
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sure

sterile jay
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Ok 1 min

grave oracle
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kk

sterile jay
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The image is not uploading

grave oracle
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size ??

sterile jay
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2.13 mb

grave oracle
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try again

sterile jay
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K

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If X is real, the fn (X-a)(X-B)/(X-cw will assume all real values , provided

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Options:

A) a>B>c
B) a<B<c
C) a>c<B
D) a<c<B

sterile jay
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Can u understand the text?

grave oracle
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yup

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lemme try

sterile jay
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Ok

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I will be done with this Question for today, it’s late here, thanks for ur help

grave oracle
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do that y =
discriminant

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u'll get some y^2....... >=0

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for it to be true the roots of y^2.... should be imaginary
so put d<=0

sterile jay
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How can we be sure it will be imaginary? As a, B, c are variables

grave oracle
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no no
the equation y^2.... is always greater than 0

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so it can't be -ve

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so it shud either have 1 root or imaginary

sterile jay
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If y^2 is greater that 0 shouldn’t it be real or 1 root?

grave oracle
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are you aware of graphs ?

sterile jay
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Yea kind of

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Know them, but not well enough to solve problems

grave oracle
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so if the roots are imaginary
it won't touch or cut anywhere right ??

sterile jay
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Yes

grave oracle
grave oracle
sterile jay
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Oh

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Okkk

grave oracle
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just think of the graph of x^2+x+1

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it doesn't tough x axis and is always up ie positive

sterile jay
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But we have been thot, that if Discriminant is greater that or equal to 0, we will have real or equal, real roots

grave oracle
sterile jay
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Ohh ok

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If a is negative, then imaginary can also only have negative ryt?

grave oracle
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and btw imaginary doesn't mean always positive
it depends on the sign of the x^2

sterile jay
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According to graph

grave oracle
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if it is positive it is positive or else negative

grave oracle
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yess

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so first put y=
then make and equation
then d>=0
then for that equation again make d<=0

sterile jay
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It’s difficult to understand in typing, if u don’t mind can u send a pic

grave oracle
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no no
I'm just summarizing the entire problem

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nothing much

sterile jay
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Ok

sterile jay
grave oracle
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see

sterile jay
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Mm

grave oracle
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first when we equate y=---
and we get a quadratic in x

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for that discriminant will be greater than or equal to 0

sterile jay
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Mm

grave oracle
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the discriminant we find wud be in terms of y

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right ?

sterile jay
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I’m sorry I’m not able to make my mind understand

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It’s pretty late here and I’m sleepy

grave oracle
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kk lol

sterile jay
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So ig we can wrap it up …. I’m sorry

grave oracle
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I sent u frnd req

sterile jay
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It’s just tomo is Monday and school, so don’t wanna sleep in class

grave oracle
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so that when u r fresh like in the morn

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I'll help u out

sterile jay
grave oracle
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bcos idk if this channel will be there

sterile jay
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Is it night where u live too?

grave oracle
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I'm from India

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hbu ?

sterile jay
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Same then

grave oracle
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kk lol

sterile jay
grave oracle
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accepted ??

sterile jay
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U r really good in math, I suck at math…. R u a teacher or something? Or Mayb a topper?

sterile jay
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I'm having trouble setting up this problem integral

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this is the original problem... where am I messing up?

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nvm I think i got it - wrong bounds and forgot fraction on integral

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Just to verify am I missing any here?

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I came up with 5 possibilities for how to write the same exponent. Are there more ways to write this?

And is “exponent” the correct word here or depends? One is written as a radical exponent and one as an exponent radical

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  1. rational exponent 2. radical 3. exponent 4, rational exponent 5. exponent?
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They're all still exponents

oak kraken
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oh..

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We don’t classify them with sub classes for how they are written differently?

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Only two include an actual radical symbol. Even if it was just plain “sqrt(9)” we would still call this an exponent?

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Is there an exponent seen there?

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I don't see an exponent with $\sqrt{9}$

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dldh06

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Let me clarify, it's based on what you see

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It's mainly called radical exponent and not the other way

oak kraken
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Oh

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This is a better way to word them?

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(2 radical exponents and 3 rational exponents)

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That's fine, I guess

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Thanks

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can i get a explanation of this please

uneven linden
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Let's start with (i)

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Imagine we drew a horizontal line across the top, connecting S and T but perpendicular to both of those north lines

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Lemme open paint

white rock
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ok

uneven linden
white rock
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ok

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i see

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Any quadrilateral has total angle 360

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from that you should be able to get angle PQT

white rock
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so

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pqt is 76

uneven linden
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Yeah

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And then the whole circle is 360, so you should get PQR from there

white rock
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so to find angle q

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its 360-239-76

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=45

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Yeah

white rock
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so proved

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ok

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ii

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ik how to do

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its just cosine rule

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how would i do iii?

uneven linden
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Give me just a moment

white rock
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alr

uneven linden
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Should be able to find angle QPR, since you now have all 3 sides

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We've got another quadrilateral here, with the extra lines I've drawn

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going like SPR and an unlabeled point

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angle SPR is just SPQ + QPR

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we want that angle at R, and we can again use the sum of the angles in a quadrilateral being 360

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Then bearing will just be 360 - that since it's measured clockwise

white rock
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is that left side a quadrilateral?

uneven linden
white rock
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ye that

uneven linden
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Yeah, 4 sides

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all polygons with 4 sides have interior angles adding up to 360