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thorny jungle
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so many ppl, i dont even know who asked that lol

still temple
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1/2

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essentially

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@spark canopy

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you are welcome with the subquestion

spark canopy
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yeah i got it correct, thanks for the help!

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placid gate
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5-14x=4(3-7x)+7

marsh citrusBOT
opaque wolf
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So we gotta get x to one side

placid gate
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okay bet how

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HOW

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HEL

thorny jungle
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expand right hand side..

placid gate
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how

thorny jungle
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4(3-7x)

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how do u expand this

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distribute this

placid gate
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OH YEAH

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OK

thorny jungle
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what do u get

placid gate
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so 4x3 and 4x7x

thorny jungle
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7x, not 7

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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47x not 47

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$4 \times 7x, not 4 \times 7$

elfin berryBOT
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Kurama

placid gate
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okay

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I DID IT

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I EDITED IT

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OK

thorny jungle
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what do u get,,

placid gate
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OH OK WAIT

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sos but can u give me a sec

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okay so

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5-14x=12-28x+7

thorny jungle
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right

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now move the terms with x to one side,

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terms without x to the other

placid gate
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kk

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14x +28x = 42

thorny jungle
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how did u get that?

thorny jungle
placid gate
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what

thorny jungle
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5-14x = 12-28x+7

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move everything to the right

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of the equal sign

placid gate
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how

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wahat

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HEPL

still temple
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Or You can think of it the other way

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You add 14x to both sides

placid gate
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OK OK

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can i ask u smth

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why not 5

still temple
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Yes.

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Cuz you want x terms only on one side

placid gate
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OK

still temple
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Then you can figure out the constant terms

thorny jungle
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^your goal is to isolate for x. So write it out like x = something...

placid gate
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what

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so ill put 14 x on both sides

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5-14x+14x=12-28x+7+14x

thorny jungle
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do you see how -14x and 14x cancels to 0?

placid gate
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i thought that - is for 5

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BUT OK

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SURE

placid gate
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I DONT SEE

thorny jungle
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ok...

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on a number line

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if you move 14 steps forwad

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and 14 steps backwards

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you didnt move

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right

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assuming you started at 0

placid gate
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oh new knowledge

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thanks okay

thorny jungle
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i cant tell if u are being sarcastic lol

placid gate
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im not

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i actually find that helpful thanks

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im learning math in another language so it quite hard for me to understand what the teacher is talking abt

thorny jungle
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okok,, anyways, you see the left hand side would just be 5, right?

placid gate
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yes

thorny jungle
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so you have 5=12-28x+7+14x

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now, if you subtract 5 from both sides

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you have 5-5=12-28x+7+14x-5

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agree?

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then the 5's cancel out

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so you have 0=12-28x+7+14x-5

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right?

placid gate
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OH SO THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS TO DISTRIBUTE?

thorny jungle
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huh?

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distribute?

placid gate
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wait can i read that again

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OH OK

placid gate
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idk..

thorny jungle
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are you convinced?

placid gate
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no not rlly

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but oky

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okay

thorny jungle
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we had this 5=12-28x+7+14x

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-5 on both sides

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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again, think about that analogy

placid gate
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where'd the - come from

placid gate
thorny jungle
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yeah.

placid gate
thorny jungle
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-?

placid gate
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what

thorny jungle
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we want to move everything to the right hand side of the equal sign

placid gate
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okay

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oky

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okay**

thorny jungle
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5=12-28x+7+14x, so -5 on both sides

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to get 0 = 12 - 28x + 7 + 14x - 5

placid gate
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does this method work on none distributive equations??

placid gate
thorny jungle
placid gate
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nvm lets continue

placid gate
thorny jungle
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we did the exact same thing with the 14x

placid gate
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yeah

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its all in the

thorny jungle
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so we do it again with the 5

placid gate
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yeah

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its all now in the right side

thorny jungle
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think of the terms with "x" and the terms without "x" as two types of objects

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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and the rule is that different objects cannot be added, subtracted, multiplied, or divided

placid gate
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yes im aware

thorny jungle
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so how can you simplify the right hand side

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0 = 12 - 28x + 7 + 14x - 5

placid gate
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add 28x and 14x

thorny jungle
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right

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wait

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-28x, right?

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the sign in front of the term

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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notice you have - 28x and + 14x

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so how would they add?

placid gate
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subtract

thorny jungle
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-28x+14x, right?

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what is the result

placid gate
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OH

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OK

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42

thorny jungle
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no

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you start at 0

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take 28 steps back

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take 14 steps forward

placid gate
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-14

thorny jungle
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where are you at relative to the starting point?

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right

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14x right?

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-14x*

placid gate
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i forgot abt the - sos

placid gate
thorny jungle
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0 = 12 - 28x + 7 + 14x - 5

placid gate
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ill rewrite?

thorny jungle
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0 = 12+7-5-14x

placid gate
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ok

thorny jungle
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so now, consider the terms without the "x"

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how would they add together?

placid gate
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subtract 12 and 7 then add 7

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FUCK

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NO OTHER WAY AROUNF

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add the sub

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then**

thorny jungle
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ignore the -14x

placid gate
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yes

thorny jungle
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0 = 12+7-5 -14x

placid gate
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wait

thorny jungle
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what terms are you working with

placid gate
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the ones without the x

thorny jungle
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and they are?

placid gate
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so 0=14-14x

placid gate
thorny jungle
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right

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now, you are so close

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you need to somehow isolate for x

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can you see a way to do that?

placid gate
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no..

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WAIT

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put it in the other side??

thorny jungle
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put what to the other side?

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I agree with your idea

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but you just need to be more specific

placid gate
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14x=14 ?

thorny jungle
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right

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right

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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now. how do you isolate for x?

placid gate
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how

thorny jungle
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you have x multiplied by 14 on left hand side of the equality, right?

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but you just want x to be alone, like x = something

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so how do you get x to be alone?

placid gate
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HOW?!?!

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IDK IM NOT A THERAPIST

thorny jungle
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whats the opposite of multiplication

placid gate
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oh multip

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OK DIVISION

thorny jungle
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do you see, on left hand side, its $14 \times x$?

elfin berryBOT
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Kurama

placid gate
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OH WAIT IK WHAT TO DO NOW

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OMG

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divide both of them by 2

thorny jungle
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why 2>

placid gate
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idk i saw my teacher do it

thorny jungle
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if you divide both sides by 2, you still have 7x = 7

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x is still not by itself

placid gate
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oh yeah

thorny jungle
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so i agree you have to divide by something to get the x by itself

placid gate
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ok

thorny jungle
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what is that something

placid gate
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14?

thorny jungle
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yep

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so what do you get?

placid gate
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14/x ?

thorny jungle
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14x = 14

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divide both sides by 14

placid gate
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okay

thorny jungle
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what do u have

placid gate
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1

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OH

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WOW

thorny jungle
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so whats the answer

placid gate
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1

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why 14 though?

thorny jungle
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well, you divded by 2 before

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that didnt work

placid gate
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oh

thorny jungle
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it has to be 14

placid gate
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okay !!!

thorny jungle
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because 14/14 = 1

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so you have 1*x = 1

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or simply just x = 1

placid gate
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thank you sm !! i hope i'll remember all of this later on !!

granite crystal
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@placid gate if you’re done with the page, please close it

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granite crystal
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.close

thorny jungle
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It was closed

placid gate
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ok

granite crystal
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ye,

thorny jungle
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Close it again…

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ebon karma
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Excuse me ,may I know what is the ans of these two ?thanks

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sleek crater
marsh citrusBOT
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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

sleek crater
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Couldn't the teacher have left the 12 in the left side?

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so

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$$12=x$$

elfin berryBOT
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geoxcaliber

sleek crater
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Apart from it being a quadratic equation

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If you were solving for x

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I don't see why you wouldn't do just 12 = x

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Another question:

elfin berryBOT
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geoxcaliber
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sleek crater
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Why does $$\frac{\sqrt{5}}{\sqrt{m^2}}$$

elfin berryBOT
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geoxcaliber

sleek crater
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Simplify to

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$$\frac{\sqrt{5}}{m}$$

elfin berryBOT
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geoxcaliber

sleek crater
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with the m^2 remaining inside the radical

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but the x^2 in question 17 go out of the radical?

bright jay
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Stop opening multiple channels @sleek crater

sleek crater
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I thought it would be easier to separate my questions

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theres plenty available anyway

bright jay
sleek crater
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Ok

bright jay
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So go ahead and close one of the channels

sleek crater
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Can you confirm my question in the other channel

bright jay
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I could, if you stop using multiple channels

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So close this one

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copper granite
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How do I figure out the volume of a cone?

novel fjord
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do you know the formula

copper granite
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Just leave me alone

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novel fjord
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if you don't want help don't ask for it lmao

copper granite
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I just don’t want help from you

novel fjord
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i literally just said you should review basic algebraic notation bleak

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warm bone
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Two bags have 4 white and 5 black balls. At random we take 2 balls from 1st bag to the second one.
What is the probability that we'll take 1 ball from the 2nd bag and it will be white?
Let's say we have pulled a white ball. What are the probability that in the second bag we put 1 white and 1 back ball?
so for the first question I got 120/1331
and for the second I got 5/18
are they correct?

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vital fog
warm bone
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alright give me a sec

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so for the 1st one 120/1331 = 6/11 x 4/11 x 5/11

vital fog
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okay let's work on that first

warm bone
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and these numbers is what I got when looking for a probability of each instance after the 2 balls were moved from 1st bag to the 2nd. So 2w - 6/11 2b - 4/11 1w1b - 5/11

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ok

vital fog
warm bone
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I don't think it matters in which order you draw the 1:1 balls,

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why would it, it's the same result and same probability

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and for multiplying part, I am not sure, I think I saw somewhere that you do it like that when you want to find the chance of every possibility, without having all the concrete details. So... since with the pulling of 2 random balls, we only know exact number of total balls in the bag, but not how their variation changed after the instance. Like we know there are 11 now, but we don't know how many black or white exactly

vital fog
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okay well first let's consider a simpler case

warm bone
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ok

vital fog
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let's work out the probability of picking up a white ball from the second bag AFTER randomly picking and moving two black balls from the first bag

warm bone
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ok

vital fog
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breaking it down, I'm asking for the prob of picking two black balls from bag1 AND picking a white ball from bag 2

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does that make sense?

warm bone
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yeah

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one sec

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5/18 and 4/11

vital fog
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perfect

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and when we combine these two, we multiply them

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that's because of the AND I wrote earlier, since they must happen together for our desire outcome to happen

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that gives 10/99, I believe, which is the probability of picking up a white ball from bag 2 after randomly picking and moving two black balls from the first bag

warm bone
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right

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so I need to do that with the other 2 option now, right?

vital fog
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exactly, except you have to be careful

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there's actually three more options

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if you work out the probabilities for 1b1w, it's different to 1w1b

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that's because there are an uneven number of white and black balls in the bag (4 vs 5)

warm bone
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i'm pretty sure they're the same, but I'll run it

vital fog
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sure

warm bone
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there might be uneven number, but both instances take 1 of each

vital fog
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you know what, I apologise, you're right

warm bone
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it's cool, I've been at this for 21h so, head in the game so to speak 😄

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ok, done

vital fog
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let's see?

warm bone
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for 2 whites - 1/6 ; 6/11 ; 1/11

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1 white 1 black - 5/18 ; 5/11 ; 25/198

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that's all for now

vital fog
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looks good, but we do still have to consider the fact that we can pick either 1 white then 1 black or 1 black then 1 white

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although the probability is the same, there are two permutations in that case

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so the chances of picking 1 white and 1 black (regardless of order) from the first bag should be 5/18 * 2 = 5/9

warm bone
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that got me stumped tbh, I wasn't sure if it was needed because it doesn't specify that white has to be the first ball

vital fog
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yeah it's confusing when we have to consider different arrangements within a case

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but a good sanity check for this is to consider the different cases when drawing from the first bag (BB: 5/18, WW: 1/6, WB 5/18, BW: 5/18) and seeing that they sum to 1, which makes sense as those four make up all the possible actions you can take

warm bone
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oh yeah

vital fog
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so now do you know what we can do with all these probabilties?

warm bone
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so, now we have 'What is the probability that we'll take 1 ball from the 2nd bag and it will be white?' cleared yes?
What about the 'Let's say we have pulled a white ball. What are the probability that in the second bag we put 1 white and 1 back ball?'

vital fog
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just to check, what's your final answer for the first part?

dry trail
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If we consider that the 2 balls are taken one at the time, the event "the two balls pulled are white and black" is the union of events "the first ball pulled is white and the second is black" and "the first ball pulled is black and the second is white", and you are then applying the formula for the probability of union of events
Just as an additional note, if it can be helpful to you

warm bone
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25/99?

vital fog
# warm bone 25/99?

not quite, that's the probability of moving 1 white and 1 black, then picking 1 white from the second bag

warm bone
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do we multiply 1/11 5/11 and 6/11?

vital fog
warm bone
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then I did not understood what he was trying to say, sorry, language barrier

dry trail
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But nevermind, if what I said only confuses you leave it aside

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Go on with the exercise

vital fog
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in this case we sum the probabilities, since each event individually lead to the desired outcome of picking one white ball out of bag 2

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ie. OR

warm bone
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wait now I got it. it's because you can pull 1w1b or 1b1w and even though they are statistically the same, they're technically different, that's why we multiply the answer of one by 2

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(it's for what mat was saying) ^^

vital fog
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actually I didn't notice, where did those three numbers come from

warm bone
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nvrm, I looked at the wrong page

vital fog
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it should be 10/99 (what we worked out earlier), then 1/11 and 25/99

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ah I see

warm bone
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sooo, 4/9?

vital fog
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that's right

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does it make sense when we choose to multiply/add probabilities?

warm bone
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wait... how can it be 4/9 if there are 11 balls in the 2nd bag?

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4/9 is the answer to the 1st one right?

vital fog
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hm

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yup it is

dry trail
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I get 4/9 as well

vital fog
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I'm not very sure how to explain this

warm bone
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well... if it doesn't have to be, then I guess it's fine

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I understand that it doesn't have to be, but it just doesn't bode well, maybe in decimals it feels better

vital fog
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think of it as a 44.4...% chance you'll get a white ball after this juggling act

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on to part 2?

warm bone
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yes

vital fog
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are you familiar with conditional probability

warm bone
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no

vital fog
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this'll be a toughie, let me sketch something that might help then

warm bone
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but wait, didn't we already found the probability of us putting 1 white and 1 black ball into the 2nd bag? wasn't it 5/9?

vital fog
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that's right

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but there's additional information: the fact that we pulled a white ball from bag 2 afterwards

warm bone
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oh yeah, it didn't mention returning it

vital fog
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ah, that's not the problem

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we'll assume that it's been returned

warm bone
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but then why does it change the probability? actually, I'll wait for you to finish sketching it up

vital fog
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I'll try to give you a textbook example of conditional probability to get you thinking: say I either walk or take the bus to school. On a clear day, the probability of me walking is 80%. On a rainy day, the probability of me walking is 10%. And let's say that the probability of any day raining is 20%

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let's say I told you I took the bus today, and asked you for the probability of it having rained this morning, you'd say that the probability must be higher than 20% right?

warm bone
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isn't it 2%?

vital fog
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don't do any calculations just yet, just think about it intuitively

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if I took the bus, you might assume that it rained since it's so unlikely for me to take the bus otherwise (100%-80%=20%)

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but why would you assume that it rained? especially since the probability for rain is so low? it's because you have extra information: the fact that I took the bus

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so that effectively 'updates' the probability of it having rained that specific day (in this case raising it to about 47%)

warm bone
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well yeah, because it's not guaranteed that you took the bus BECAUSE it rained, there's still 20% chance that you'll take the bus any other day

vital fog
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but that's relatively unlikely, so mentally you'd go to the more likely option of me taking the bus because it was raining

warm bone
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ok, yes, as if it rained, taking bus would be 90% right?

vital fog
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conditional probability considers these types of problems, as if explaining why the numerically less likely option of it raining (20%) is actually the 'intuitively more likely option'

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I'm not quite sure why I'm attempting to teach this topic, it's very broad and you might be better off looking for other resources

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let me know if you just want me to give you a step by step to part 2 of your problem and you can take a look after learning a bit more about the topic

warm bone
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let's get back to the problem, seeing numbers interact with one another will make it easier to understand

vital fog
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I'll have to introduce a new formula to you

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$P(A|B)=\frac{P(A\cap B)}{P(B)}$

elfin berryBOT
vital fog
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the left side can be read as "the probability of A given B"

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eg. the probability of it raining given I took the bus, or the probability of moving 1W1B given I drew a white from bag 2 after

warm bone
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ok

vital fog
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are you familiar with the symbols on the right side?

warm bone
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well P stands for probability but, not sure about the arc, is it A to B?

vital fog
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it translates to A intersect B, effectively the probability of A happening AND B happening

warm bone
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alright, got it

vital fog
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so let's apply this to our case

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$P(\text{moved 1 white and 1 black}|\text{drew a white})\=\frac{P(\text{moved 1 white and 1 black AND drew a white})}{P(\text{drew a white})}$

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hmm..

elfin berryBOT
vital fog
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not quite sure what was wrong but I'll just keep it on two lines

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could you find the respective probabilities for our fraction?

warm bone
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let me think

vital fog
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take your time

warm bone
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wait, the A|B part I don't need to find do I?

vital fog
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the P(A|B) part is the answer we're looking for

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the right side is how we'll get that answer

warm bone
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ok, that's what I thought, but picture confused me

vital fog
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my bad my bad, texit doesn't like long equations

warm bone
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it's cool

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ok so is it like this? (5/9 + 4/9)/4/9 ?

vital fog
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it was more correct before the edit, remember that AND is multiply

warm bone
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oh

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wait, but won't that just be 5/9

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but you can think about the numerator more simply, the probability of moving 1 white ball + 1 black ball to bag 2, and then drawing a white ball from that bag

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which would be 2 * 5/18 * 5/11, as we worked out earlier right? When we were doing cases

warm bone
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oohhh ok, yes

vital fog
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so what would the fraction be?

warm bone
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it's the pulling of 1w1b and then probability to pull a white from a 2nd bag with +2 balls

vital fog
warm bone
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wait, no, maybe I still don't get it after all.

vital fog
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the P(moved 1 white and 1 black AND drew a white)

warm bone
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well yeah, I get that, but having the P(drew a white) denominator, makes it a 5/9 no?

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ok wait, step by step

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P(moved 1 white and 1 black AND drew a white) is 5/9 * 5/11?

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then P(Drew a white) is 5/11

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ah I see the confusion, the drew a white in the numerator is not quite the same as the drew a white in the denominator - I should've specified when I wrote the equation

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the one at the top is specifically considering the case where we move 1w1b then draw a white, the one on the bottom is simply "the chance of drawing a white ball from bag 2, without any knowledge of how we moved balls from bag 1"

warm bone
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right, ok, that was my second guess.

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so it's (5/9 * 5/11) / 4/9 ?

vital fog
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yup

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25/44?

warm bone
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yes

vital fog
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notice how the numerator is a sub-case of the denominator? that's kind of how you can intuitively make sense of the P(A|B) formula I gave you. It as if after receiving the additional information, our space of all possible events was shrunken to only the ones were we draw a white ball at the end - that becomes our denominator

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and our numerator is the specific case that we're looking for, within that new shrunken possibility space

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if that doesn't make sense no worries, you'll certainly have a chance to cover conditional probability more formally than within a discord channel

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very very important concept in applicational statistics

warm bone
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don't know what that means but it sounds threatening

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ok, so the part two answer is 25/44 right?

vital fog
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correct

warm bone
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ok, just wanted to make sure, it was over.

vital fog
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^^

warm bone
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well I have another problem, but it is different from the previous, though still in the realm of statistics

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if you're able, I'd like some help with it too, but I understand if you're tired

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it'd be best if you start another channel in case I can't help - it'll be easier for other helpers to find

warm bone
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ok, well, still, much appreciate the help, thank you for your time and have a beautiful day.

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not saying I'll leave without taking a look at least~ I'll help if I can

warm bone
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oh, well, should I post it here then and then delete if you can't help?

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no no, just post it in a new channel so the bot'll pin it

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if you have an exponential equation that looks like this $f(x)^{g(x)}=f(x)^{h(x)}$, one of the things you need to do to solve it is to make the $f(x)=-1$ where both exponents have to be either even or odd numbers. What if one of the numbers is 0 and the other even? Is it valid?

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0 is even, so both exponents are even in that case

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Given that a,b,c are positives

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So I proved that the inequality is equivalent to $a^2+b^2+c^2>bc+ca+ab$

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Trenton

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What can I do next?

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In order to conclude the inequality is valid for positive numbers a,b,c

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Omg

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How can you think that

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Incredible

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I tried my best to factorise the term

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But I still cant draw a proper conclusion

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Can anyone help mehappy_cry_cat happy_cry_cat

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I assume your numbers need to be positive

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Given this, have you heard of the AM-GM inequality?

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Umm I have heard about it

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How can we apply the AM-GM inequality

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Start from $a^2b + a^2c + b^2a + b^2c + c^2a + c^2b$

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What happens when you apply AM-GM directly?

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Camilleone

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Sorry i typoed

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謝墨離

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謝墨離

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謝墨離

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Use these three equations

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That is enough hints

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I will try

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Nice I proved it successfully

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Claim

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For a graph like this, the domain would be x>5 correct? Or would it be ARN

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It looks like the domain is x => 5

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ok

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what is the the value of y at the x intercept

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what is the value of x at the y intercept

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(5,-3) ?

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-3,5 you mean

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wait so that's it

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oh

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so X is -3 and y is 5?

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x = -3 and y = 5

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yes

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so easy

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yeah lol

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shortest help session ever lmao

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lol

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do i need to do .close again or something

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bc it still says occupied

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no wait for it it'll go away

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it doesn't say reopened again so no problems on your end

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So i have two questions

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still temple
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In geometry

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First one is

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how many degrees is an equal angle if the sum of its two adjacent angles is 320 °

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And second one is

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the difference of the angles alpha = 80 ° and beta = 32 ° 50'20" is:

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Idk how to solve eithrr

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Either

weak hatch
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Can you post an image to the full question? There seems to be information missing.

still temple
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Which one

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Also im afraid I can't due to the fact, the question is in Bulgarian since that's my home language

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@weak hatch

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Which one is missing

weak hatch
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Can you post it anyway? If there are diagrams it would be more clear.

still temple
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There are no diagrams but there are possible answers

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First question

weak hatch
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For the second one, you probably want to convert beta from dms to a decimal degree, then subtract, and then convert back to dms. I dont understand what the first is asking

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still temple
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the difference alpha-beta of the angles alpha = 80 ° and beta = 32 ° 50'20" is:

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This is the second one

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,rotate

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still temple
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Look at the one that says "2."

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Those are the answers

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Apparently the answer is 20

weak hatch
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Can you translate #2, since the translation you gave above doesnt seem to make sense.

still temple
weak hatch
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Ive never heard of an equal angle before.

still temple
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Hmm...

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Perhaps im using the wrong term

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Due to the fact im translating it literally

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I think it means

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Straight angle

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Im not completely sure though

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Since there is no graph

weak hatch
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straight angle usually refers to an 180 degree angle, so I dont think thats it

still temple
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Oh no nvm it means

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Right angle

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I believe

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Those are the two possible ones

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I can think of

weak hatch
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Still, a right angle is always 90 degrees. Neither of them would be 20 degrees

still temple
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Yeah it means

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Straight

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I just figured it out

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Idk

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<@&286206848099549185>

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I figured out how to solve

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The second one

weak hatch
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ok good, how did you figure it out?

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The 320 degree one or the subtraction one?

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@still temple Has your question been resolved?

still temple
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I still dont understand the first one

weak hatch
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Do you know how to convert an angle from degree minute second to a decimal value?

still temple
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Nope.

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Is that hoe

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How

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To solve it?

weak hatch
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Basically, you want to take the degree part, add the minute part divided by 60, and then add the second part divided by 3600

still temple
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Also idk if this will help u

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But the right answer is 48°9'49"

still temple
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With my problem

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?

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And if so will it solve it

weak hatch
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$d^om's'' = d+\frac{m}{60}+\frac{s}{3600}$

elfin berryBOT
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opfromthestart

still temple
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Actually

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I think this problem

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Will be easier for u

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Since its graphed

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"if AD || CE and CD || BE, then the size of >BAD is:"

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Wtf

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It deleted the stuff

weak hatch
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use \ before the |

still temple
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"if AD || CE and CD || BE, then the size of >BAD is:"

weak hatch
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So since CD and BE are parallel, you can say that DCE=BEC.

still temple
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The right answer is 60° btw

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If it helps

weak hatch
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And basically you can make a triangle out of the three angles on the outside, and solve it from there

still temple
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Can u show me?

weak hatch
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So, since CD is parallel to BE, the two angles formed by them being intersected with EC are the same, so BEC is 40 degrees

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And since AD is parallel to CE, you can kinda make up a triangle where the angles are 40, x+20, 2x, and since it is a triangle the angles must add to 180, and then you solve it from there

still temple
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Can u just give me a rundown of the entire problem

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And how to solve everything

weak hatch
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That basically was the rundown, im just not sure on how to actually do some of the steps

still temple
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Can u likee

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Do it on paper

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So i can see how u follow through

weak hatch
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Ill try

still temple
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After making the triangle

weak hatch
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Because of the parallel parts, you can say that certain angles are the same. I created a point f that completes a triangle, and you can use parallel lines to say that that angle is equal to 40 degrees, and then use traingle equation

still temple
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And how will u solve it

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To get 60°

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After that

weak hatch
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you solve 40+x+20+2x=180

still temple
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So u do a

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Triangle equation

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@weak hatch this should be right

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Yes

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alright

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hello

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this is my question, and info:

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im sruck on the red ones

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for b), 0 to the infinity i put 0 to correct that

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and but im not sure for f)

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I'm trying to find DEF's area

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tiny elk
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DFE and CAB are both equilateral

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ohh i think that would be easy

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Angle FCE=120 degrees

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apply cosine law ro triangle FCE

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find side EF

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and hence find the area

tiny elk
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we still haven't done that

graceful gust
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umm why?

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bruh

tiny elk
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it should be doable without it.

graceful gust
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maybe lemme think

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maybe someone else would be there who could do it

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well it turns out we can do it without cosine law but we would have to do some constructions and what i would be doing is basically proving cosine law and using it

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and it would basically look like i didn't use cosine law👀

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sorry maybe someone else can do without that

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cos

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hope this helps

tiny elk
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doesn't but thanks

echo moat
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Im sorry i could do that with the (1/2)ab sin A to find the area but ig you havent done that too right?

tiny elk
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yes

echo moat
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Oh ok

tiny elk
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no sine and cosine

echo moat
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So

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Oh oh sorry

tiny elk
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can I even do this?

untold herald
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Yes

tiny elk
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perfect

untold herald
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Idk

tiny elk
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bruh

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constructed an equilateral triangle with side length 4

still temple
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my bad

tiny elk
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well, I get the same result I would be getting if I used cosine law

still temple
tiny elk
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no I don't

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I just need to do the exercise without the cosine law

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which I did

still temple
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u did it?

tiny elk
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by constructing an equilateral triangle here

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using pythagorean theorem to get the hypothenuse and just find the area and perimeter

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nop bro

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i loved ur idea

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very good

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ty ahahah

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would the answer to A also be the mean for B?

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dont question my answers

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Can someone please help me with this problem? I got the answer by using my calculator but I am supposed to know how to solve this problem without the use of a calculator

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if you can ping me if you can help me that would be great

plush elk
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The derivative of ( integral of f(t) , t from g(x) to h(x) ) in terms of x =f(h(x))h’(x)-f(g(x))g’(x)

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is g(x) just sin squared x?

plush elk
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It could be constant function

quaint arrow
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and is h(x) just -pi/4?

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In your case it’s constant

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No that is g

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From g to h, g below h above

quaint arrow
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oh I see. But does it really matter which function we assign g/h to?

plush elk
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No but at least I should give a correct formula

quaint arrow
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So would that look like this?

plush elk
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It is easy to prove but I don’t think it’s that obvious…

quaint arrow
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sorry its sideways

plush elk
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I got b

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Derivative of constant function is zero

quaint arrow
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that's what I got initially. But my friend (who's the valedictorian in my school) got something else

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also I plugged the question into my calculator and its telling me d is the right answer

cloud bramble
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It's not b, since you also have to multiply by the derivative of sin^2(x)

quaint arrow
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wait so how should i go about solving this problem

plush elk
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Oh yes d

quaint arrow
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i have no idea how to do it, i just used my calculator, but its suggested that i dont use my calculator on this question

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is what I did in the pic correct so far?

plush elk
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I gave you the general form already

quaint arrow
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yeah so is what I did in the 2nd pic i sent correct so far?

quaint arrow
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why do you multiply by h'(x)

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oh wait a sec

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wait so first of technically just finding the antiderivative of csc(t^4+1), right?

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Couldn't find an attached image in the last 10 messages.

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,rotate

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Could I get help on this question? I'm having difficulty finding the area of the triangle because I can't really visualise the vectors

river yew
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I've tried the magnitude and using A=1/2bh but it's not correct

static quarry
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Your drawing looks wrong. Isn't L the line connecting P and Q? In which case OQ as drawn is not perpendicular to L.

river yew
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It probably is wrong, I wasn't really sure how to draw it out

static quarry
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What did you get for b and h? And how do you know your answer is wrong?

river yew
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For the points I found how would I use them?

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I have the solution in a booklet

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I got 1/2xsqrt300 in my attemp at finding it

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solution is sqrt 66 u^2

static quarry
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What is u

river yew
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units

static quarry
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ah

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I agree with sqrt(66)

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What did you get for b and h?

river yew
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for b i got 6 and 50 for h

static quarry
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which line segment are you using for the base?

river yew
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OQ

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wasn't too use on line L so I assumed the points

static quarry
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Yeah this is your problem, the right angle is not where you have shown it

river yew
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ahh

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that makes sense

static quarry
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The right angle is the angle where Q is

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i.e. angle PQO

river yew
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Ohh

static quarry
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then the base is PQ and the height is OQ

river yew
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I'll try again with that

static quarry
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(or vice versa, doesn't really matter)

river yew
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If you dont mind me asking how would you draw line L, or the triangle for the question

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I get how to calculate the answer but I don't really understand whats going on with the points

static quarry
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I would draw similar to what you have, except I would draw OQ vertically instead of at a slant like you have it

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Then it is perpendicular to L as required

river yew
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Ohhh

static quarry
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L itself is the line containing PQ

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Since both of those points are on L

river yew
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I was not too sure on the perpendicular part

static quarry
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O is not on L

river yew
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I kept trying to draw it diagonally

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Thanks for all the help

static quarry
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"The point Q lies on L such that OQ is perpendicular to L"

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It's a bit hard to visualize until you experiment with drawing it

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and then modify the drawing until it satisfies the requirements 😆

river yew
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Yeah, I also don't know why i didn't put PQ on line L

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Ah I see I see, I'll try more anytime I have another question

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where does the (0,-4) come from?

main idol
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plug in $x=0$ to $y$

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riemann

amber rapids
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but why do we do that

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ah makes sense we can pick any point on y = -x-4 and it mst always be at a distance of \sqrt{128} to y = -x+c

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do you think they ever intersect?

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makes sense

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tyty once again

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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

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Is this an exam/quiz?

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past exam so there’s answer provided

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but i still don’t know how to solve it

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can someone remind me how to solve (b)’s P(X<2)

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or how to get the value of it

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Im stuck on part a. I used geometric formula.

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noble nebula
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you need a recursive formula

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So the expression for $C_n$ should include $C_{n-1}$ somehow

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Remavas

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@merry ivy Has your question been resolved?

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so n-1 is not an exponent

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It asks for a recursive formula. That's most likely linked to the fact it gave a syntax error

noble nebula
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That's also why it talks about how to type the answer

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with a subscript

merry ivy
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9(n-1) 1.1

glacial hedge
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I would recommend reading the entirety of the question again

noble nebula
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Ok, let's say we have concentration $C_{n-1}$. According to the task, what is its concentration going to be the next day? (for any $n>1$)

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Remavas

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1.1

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increases 10% each day

noble nebula
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just 1.1?

merry ivy
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1.1 and n

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or is it n-1?

glacial hedge
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You know what a recursive formula is right ?

noble nebula
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$C_n = f(C_{n-1})$, where f is some function you have to find

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Remavas

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That is what a recursive formula is

merry ivy
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hmmm

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is f the initial value?
and C is the common difference?

noble nebula
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$C_n$ is the concentration after $n$ days

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Remavas

noble nebula
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Says so in the task

merry ivy
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im still having syntax errors. I followed the directions

noble nebula
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well what did you type in

merry ivy
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how would you type it?

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<@&286206848099549185>

main idol
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riemann

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is it this?

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Still a syntax error

still temple
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$9_{n-1}$ is not valid, sub number (like on the bottom) are only valid on variables (letters)

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aspwil

still temple
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@merry ivy assuimg you had not figgured that out yet

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ye

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can you tell me?

still temple
merry ivy
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Like this? still wrong

still temple
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no, thats wrong

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like i jsut said you need C instead of A in this equation

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and this is exponentail; increse not liner so you answer will be in the form

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$x_n = a * x_{n-1}$

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aspwil

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so my a = 9
xn = 1.1

still temple
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no

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9 is the starting value its not listed in this equaiton

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"A" is the persentage its going up by

merry ivy
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ohhhh

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so its 0.1 or 1.1

still temple
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yes, were multipliing though, so its 1.1

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cause the consentation is increseing by 10% each day so we end up with 110% of the previous consentation

merry ivy
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ok

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to find 8 days, do i plug 8 into n?

still temple
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yep you find C_8

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so $C_8 = 1.1 * C_7$

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aspwil

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how we find c7?

still temple
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the same rule $C_7 = 1.1 * C_6$

merry ivy
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do we go down until c1?

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aspwil

still temple
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we go down unitll the starting day

merry ivy
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which is 9

still temple
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yes $C_0 = 9$

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aspwil

still temple
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so just use that rule to find C_8

merry ivy
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ohhh
so
c1 = 1.1(9) = 9.9

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and then we use c1 to find c2?

still temple
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yep

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c2 = 1.1 * 1.1 * 9

merry ivy
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u add 1.1 everytime?

still temple
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you times by 1.1

merry ivy
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or would it be 1.2

still temple
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the rule we got was

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$C_n = 1.1 * C_{n-1}$

elfin berryBOT
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aspwil

still temple
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every time you increase n by 1 we times by 1.1

merry ivy
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i used desmos
c2 = 1.1 (9.9) = 10.89 is the same as 1.1(1.1)(9)

still temple
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yep

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do you know the syntax for powers?

merry ivy
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^

still temple
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yes
$C_2 = 1.1 * 1.1 * 9 = 1.1^2 * 9$

elfin berryBOT
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aspwil

still temple
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so $C_2 = 1.1^2 * 9$

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aspwil

still temple
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and if we times by 1.1 to get c_3 then we just add 1 to the power

merry ivy
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what dp should i round to?

still temple
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$C_3 = 1.1^3 * 9$

elfin berryBOT
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aspwil

still temple
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etc

merry ivy
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ok.

still temple
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im not sure does it say a decimal point to round to?

merry ivy
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i just multiply the previous answer to 1.1

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no

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doesnt say

still temple
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dont round then i guess?

merry ivy
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alright to 2 or 4 dp?

still temple
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just use 2 i guess

merry ivy
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ok.

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alright. i got it now

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thanks for the help