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deep grail
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You mean the smallest y value?

grizzled sonnet
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yes. thats what range is.

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if we cared abt x, we can plug in literally anything for x

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might as well say -inf

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by your logic, 1/x is infinity when x = infinity

deep grail
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No, if x approaches infinity y should be -infinity

grizzled sonnet
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no.

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1/10 is what?
1/100 is what?
1/1000 is what?
where is it going?

deep grail
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0

grizzled sonnet
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yes

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so the minimum value of 1/x is?

deep grail
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0

grizzled sonnet
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yes

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do you see why its specifically 0; why it cant be, say, -1?

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well

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excuse me

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1/x can

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i mean in our original problem

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$\frac{1}{ln(1-2x^2)}$

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deep grail
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I am lost

grizzled sonnet
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where? my bad for the mixup earlier

deep grail
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No worries, you told me the range is all of the y values of a function

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And for that we need to gather the minimum and the maximum values

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Tho get the range

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For the min value we found the limit as x approaches 0 and got infinite

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Am I right?

grizzled sonnet
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What transformation of $u$ makes $\frac{1}{u}$ get smaller?

If $u = \frac{1}{\ln(1-2x^2)}$, how can we get the same behavior from the $\ln(1-2x^2)$ term, to shrink $\frac{1}{\ln(1-2x^2)}$?

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grizzled sonnet
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Note, there are two answers to the first question. One is not applicable, which is how we know to use the second one.

deep grail
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When u approach 0

grizzled sonnet
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when $u$ approaches 0?

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grizzled sonnet
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what happens

deep grail
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1/u approaches - infinity

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@grizzled sonnet

grizzled sonnet
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are you sure?

deep grail
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Yes

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If u = 1000000000 1/u would be 0.000000000001

grizzled sonnet
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thats not $u$ approaching 0.

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grizzled sonnet
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you said "when u approaches 0, 1/u approaches -infinity"

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and then gave an example of u, not close to 0, approaching not -infinity

deep grail
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So it’s approaching 0?

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Bro I am dumb

grizzled sonnet
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._., are you guessing, or trying to figure it out?

deep grail
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This is when u is approaching infinity

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We need when u is 0

grizzled sonnet
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do we?

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we want the minimum value of just $1/u$

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deep grail
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Well I remember the graph of 1/x

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It should be -infinity?

grizzled sonnet
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dont think about that, this is important mathematical intuition.

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it is

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but when?

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what causes $\frac{1}{u}$ to tend towards negative infinity?

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deep grail
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Wait it does from the left but from the right is positive infinity

grizzled sonnet
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correct, can you see why if you think about values close to 0 on either side?

deep grail
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But in our question we excluded negative numbers

grizzled sonnet
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yes!

deep grail
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So it should be infity??

grizzled sonnet
grizzled sonnet
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what is the closest we can get?

grizzled sonnet
deep grail
grizzled sonnet
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1/u cant be negative

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so u cant be negative

deep grail
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So 0

grizzled sonnet
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as u tends towards 0, 1/u becomes large

deep grail
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Ok so the range is infinite?

grizzled sonnet
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i mean, yes, but that doesnt mean anything

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(-inf, inf) is just as infinite as (0, inf)

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you still dont know the range, lol

grizzled sonnet
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you recognize that we cant go to negative infinity

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if we cannot go into the negatives, what is the next smallest "target" number we should have

deep grail
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This is the graph🫠

grizzled sonnet
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and then how do we get there

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omg

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i mixed up my log rules 😭

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ln(-1) exists
ln(x) = -1 doesnt

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or wait

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other way around

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fuck

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i did it twice 😭

deep grail
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I give up if this comes in the exam i will solve the domain and leave the range

grizzled sonnet
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its not that bad i just made a stupid mistake

deep grail
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I know how to solve the range for any other function

grizzled sonnet
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those are elementary functions

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this is all youll see in higher levels

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they wont give you nice pretty graphs

deep grail
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Either way I don’t have enough time 😂

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My exam is in 15 minutes

grizzled sonnet
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you'll get something like $f(x) = e^{-\frac{sin(x^2)}{x}}$

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grizzled sonnet
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good luck drawing that

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its easy to solve tho

deep grail
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Thanks for your time

grizzled sonnet
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ye just try to find the min and max of the overall function and check for which x is undefined

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log rules, limits, beware negative sqrts, etc.

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gl

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In a rectangular parallelepiped, the lengths of the sides of the base are 7 cm and 17 cm, and the diagonals of the parallelepiped form angles of 45° and 30° with the plane of the base. Find the length of the height of the parallelepiped.

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I think I have tried almost every method

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please enlight me

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Help me understand the following points:

  • what is b-spline in simple terms? And how to use it in a simple function.

  • what is the difference between p-spline and b-spline?

  • what is the difference between bizier and b-spline?

winged quartz
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What are knots and control points (p)?

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In this task, we prove some fundamental properties of divisibility. We assume that
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a,
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b, and
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n are integers and that
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c is a positive integer. Prove the following statements and, in each case, provide a numerical example.

a) If
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𝑎
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What the heck does the vertical line mean here

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In this task, we prove some fundamental properties of divisibility. We assume that a, b, and n are integers and that c is a positive integer. Prove the following statements and, in each case, provide a numerical example.

a) If c∣a, then c∣na.

stray hound
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the vertical line means "divides", or I like to think of it as "is a factor of"

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so for example, 2|4 since 2 is a factor of 4

timber hamlet
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So its not doing the operation, but it means the number in front is a factor?

stray hound
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yes exactly

timber hamlet
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Ok thx

stray hound
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yeah, usually if you say a|b in general, it means b = ka for some integer k

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that's the general way of doing it

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Hello.
Im looking to find a solution to this problem. Basically how strong should a pinned circular beam be if a 52 cm 200kg concrete ball is dropped on it from 30 cm by free fall. I have done multiple tests and so far a S235 50x5 rolled beam did bend by 5mm after one drop. Or if there is any online free calculator where I can put the point load and beam types in ? 🙂

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def calculate_beam_strength(mass, height, length, width, height_beam):
g = 9.81
delta_t = 0.001

potential_energy = mass * g * height
velocity = math.sqrt(2 * g * height)
momentum = mass * velocity
impulse = momentum
average_force = impulse / delta_t
bending_moment = average_force * length / 4
section_modulus = (width * height_beam**2) / 6
bending_stress = bending_moment / section_modulus

return bending_stress

mass = float(input("Enter the mass of the sphere (kg): "))
height = float(input("Enter the height of the drop (m): "))
length = float(input("Enter the length of the beam (m): "))
width = float(input("Enter the width of the beam cross-section (m): "))
height_beam = float(input("Enter the height of the beam cross-section (m): "))

required_stress = calculate_beam_strength(mass, height, length, width, height_beam)
print(f"The minimum bending stress required for the beam is: {required_stress:.2f} Pa")

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still temple
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Can anyone help me solve this?

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valid cape
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well what have you tried?

still temple
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Let me grab it really quickly.

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hey i am supossed to differentiate 4x/(x^2+1). the solution I come to is 4(-x^2+1)/(x^2+1)^2. thats also the solution my computer comes to, but the book says its -(4x/(x^2+1)^2). what is right?

cloud iron
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,w D[4x/(x^2+1),x]

cloud iron
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Book's might be a different rearrangement of it, try doing some algebraic manipulation to get the book's answer if you'd like

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But your solution is right

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lyric bay
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Hello

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lyric bay
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Where is the √3cos(ø) coming from in the numerator?

merry pewter
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$du = \sqrt{3}\cos(\theta)d\theta$

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caspar

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Ohhh ic

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Tysm!

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Imagine creating a program that analyzes the current price of stocks and calculates various indicators. These indicators are then used for further calculations, referred to as "triggers." If these triggers are met for a stock, it suggests that the stock has a higher probability of increasing in value. The more triggers that are met, the greater the likelihood of growth.

Each trigger has been tested on historical data and has its own individual success rate. This success rate can be considered the probability of the stock increasing in value if the specific trigger is met.

How can one calculate the overall probability of a stock's success, based on the number of triggers met? There are 13 triggers in total.

sleek lake
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you can't

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you should use the data that determined individual trigger rates, to learn what they do when combined

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sleek lake
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jus the same thing you already did

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you learned that trigger #4 has 32% rate or something

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learn what rate do 4 and 7 and 10 together have

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there's ~8000 conbinations

zinc tiger
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But i cant really backtest data tho, as they dont say if a stock is likely to fall or grow. Only the triggers do

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Data is like RSI and SMA
Triggers are calculations based on multiple data, that determines the likelihood of growth

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sleek lake
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someone showed a problem like this, about restaurants

zinc tiger
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I feel like there should be a way pandahmm idk

sleek lake
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the obvious way is that you calculate failure rate

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by subtracting from 100%

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and multiply the fail rates

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and subtract from 1 again

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i don't remember if this problem did literally that or there was some small difference

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but it's just wishful thinking anyway

zinc tiger
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with failure rate, you mean 1 minus successrate?

sleek lake
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yes

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this problem has at least some intersection data, compared to yours

zinc tiger
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hmm, how else could i then calculate the probability of growth by using data?

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need help

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strong ivy
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with greens theorem

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<@&286206848099549185> who got me wit help

strong ivy
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i just dont know

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how to start

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split vigil
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im slow what did they do here

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unborn condor
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they just substracted the top fractions

dry prawn
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Common denominator'd the numerator terms

sharp sonnet
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hope this explains

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wind imp
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yoyo thats a fairly exercise on sequences

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the exercise is not difficult in itself

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im a just having trouble finding the right way to prove all points

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for the a) i wanted to do a proof by using the absurd

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but my demonstration is pretty empty

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it goes like if U doesnt have a maximum then Un converges to + infinite

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and so contradiction bcuz it is supposed to be - infinite

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but it feels wrong

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How did we simplify this?

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quiet anvil
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That seems to be the simplification of this expression

full flume
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divided top and bottom by x^(1/6) i think

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Did you have a question about a specific step?

full flume
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the 2 into 11/6 was the big hint

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but yeah I got it

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As citrus munch said first step in dividing by x^(1/6) from both the top and bottom.

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The second is pulling out a x^(1/3) from the denominator

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can someone explain part b to me, I dont understant where they got -2.8 from

night mica
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$1.2=4+(-2.8)$

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night mica
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$\sqrt{1.2}=\sqrt{4+(-2.8)}=f(-2.8)$

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ohh so to solve this problem you first have to solve to the x value of y = root 12?

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you want to use your studied function f, but in doing so you have to find the right x to plug in

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!original

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Still here

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what do I have to prove exactly for the first implication

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I’m not sure if I did this correct and I don’t know how to evulate e

echo scaffold
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Because I thought you would decide the expoinets but it’s negative so idk

north wadi
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exponent devided by exponent

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is what property

echo scaffold
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I have no idea I’m very confused

north wadi
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recall that

smoky spire
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minus

echo scaffold
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Is it the square root symbol

north wadi
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$$ \frac{a^b}{a^c} = a^{b-c} $$

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ziming

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Oh

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Hello @echo scaffold

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We meet again

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I must of put it in my notes wrong

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Yes

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New unit

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Help

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I hate it so much

proud arch
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I think we should invite the other guys too

echo scaffold
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I still got to study for English 😭

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I tried to start studying math earlier then 11 pm but then I dowloaded block blast and got addicted

proud arch
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Lol

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Anyways

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a isn't it

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We got that right

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?

echo scaffold
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Wdym sorry

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I got the math problem

proud arch
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Like a isn't the answer

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We want 4^10

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That's just 2^7

echo scaffold
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I got confused with my notes I looked how to do it with differnt bases but it had the same bases

echo scaffold
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Is (4/4)^10 equivalent to 4^10. Or would it turn into 1^10

north wadi
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the latter

echo scaffold
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Silly mistake

proud arch
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It's alright

echo scaffold
north wadi
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yea

proud arch
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Let's try 2^20

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2^(2*10)

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Correct?

echo scaffold
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I just put it into my calucltor and it was the same as 4^10

proud arch
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Anyways

echo scaffold
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The main issues I’m having so far in this unit is how to tell the difference between all these things

proud arch
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north wadi
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$$ 2^{20} = 2^{2*10} = 4^{10} $$

proud arch
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We can do without that you know

elfin berryBOT
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ziming

proud arch
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Exponent rule

echo scaffold
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Ohh

proud arch
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The first thing on the list

echo scaffold
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I was supposed to learn this in 8th grade but you know Covid

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And crazy teachers

proud arch
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Biology one 💀

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Still haven't forgotten about that

echo scaffold
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No this is my math one she used to shake us and call us chickens

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Tho the next year I think she either said the n word to a kid or a slur to a Jewish kid

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And got suspended for a while for that

proud arch
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I still can't imagine what shaking us means

echo scaffold
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Like you know our shoulders

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And she would call us chickens a lot

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It was weird

proud arch
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Anyways

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Before we go too oftrack

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c

echo scaffold
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She also put all the iep kids at the same table in the corner which is breaking like so many rules

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You add the exponents right

proud arch
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Yup

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We did that right

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Good job

echo scaffold
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Yay

proud arch
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d on the other hand

echo scaffold
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Oh no

proud arch
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Add them

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What's 7 + (-3)

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4 or -4

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???

echo scaffold
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Oh

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4

proud arch
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Yes

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Correct that

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Onto e

echo scaffold
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I prob made the 7 an negative by accident

proud arch
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It's ok

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When exponents to the same base are in division we ........the exponents keeping the base same.

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Fill in the blank

echo scaffold
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Ooo I just found some extra pratice on the back of the summary page and I’m going to see if I can kinda do it

echo scaffold
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No shbtaxt

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Subtract

proud arch
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That in multiplication no

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Yeah

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Good

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Try that for

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e

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4^4 / 4 ^(-6)

echo scaffold
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It’s 10

proud arch
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= 4^ (4 - (-6))

echo scaffold
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The two - cancel eachother out

proud arch
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Nice

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So b,c and e will be our answers

echo scaffold
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How would I do this one

proud arch
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What is 78

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Can you write is a multiplication of things

echo scaffold
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Huh

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Nothing multiplied by itself equals 78

proud arch
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Like 18 = 3 * 3 *2

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In terms of prime numbers

echo scaffold
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It would be between the numbers 4 and 5 but it is a decimal

proud arch
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.-.

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Prime factorize

echo scaffold
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No idea

proud arch
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78 = 13 * 3 * 2

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See it now

echo scaffold
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Not really because we cannot make that into an expoinet

proud arch
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So is it just (78)^1/3

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That's it

echo scaffold
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How did we get that?

proud arch
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It's cube root

echo scaffold
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So anhtbing that looks like that would be 1/3

proud arch
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Yes

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That symol

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With a 3 next to it

proud arch
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Kk

proud arch
echo scaffold
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What about this

proud arch
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It's correct

echo scaffold
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Even if it isn’t raised the third power for number 3?

proud arch
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Wait

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Oh

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I didn't read the question

echo scaffold
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I don’t know how I would raise it to the third power if the bottom is three

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If the top was three I could

proud arch
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Huhhh

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That cannot be equivalent

proud arch
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This make more sense

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??

echo scaffold
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Not really I don’t see how those are equivalent

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Do they have to be?!

proud arch
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We are supposed to take the thing in red

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To the 3rd power

echo scaffold
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Ohh

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I was making the question mroe complicated then needed

proud arch
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Lol

echo scaffold
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How would I solve that?

proud arch
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Use exponent law

echo scaffold
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For whole numbers I would multiply the expoinets but idk with fractions

proud arch
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Yes

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You do

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Same for fractions

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No difference

proud arch
echo scaffold
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So it would equal 2^5

proud arch
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Perfect!

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Ok done with math now english 😭

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After some blcok blast tho

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Lol

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some block blast

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Sureeeee

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Is that all for today

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@echo scaffold

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If yes then please .close the channel

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i am so very confused i dont even know where to start ch_splurge

grizzled sonnet
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are you just simplifying?

amber raft
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me when exam is tomorrow and i dont understand

amber raft
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yes

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i was dislexic for a sec

grizzled sonnet
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Remember:

$x^n \cdot x^m = x^{n + m}$

$(x^n)^m = x^{nm}$

$(x^ay^b)^c = x^{ac}y^{bc}$

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also know that square roots and cube roots are just powers of 1/2 and 1/3
in general, the 2nd root is a power of 1/2, the third root is a power of 1/3, and the nth root is 1/n.

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first, let's turn all of those roots into exponents, its much easier to look at these properties that way

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$\sqrt[3]{-27a^{11}b^7} = (-27a^{11}b^7)^{\frac{1}{3}}$

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amber raft
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it does :)

grizzled sonnet
amber raft
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multiply everything in the parthenesis (sorry for spelling these things () ) by 1/3?

grizzled sonnet
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we multiply the exponents

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so this becomes:

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$(-27a^{11}b^7)^{\frac{1}{3}} = (-27^{\frac{1}{3}}a^{11\cdot \frac{1}{3}}b^{7\cdot \frac{1}{3}})$

elfin berryBOT
amber raft
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ah okieee

grizzled sonnet
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do you know what the cube root of -27 is? thats sort of just the type of information you have to have on hand

amber raft
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i have desmos up hol on

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-3

grizzled sonnet
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will you have a calculator for the exam?

amber raft
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yep! im using the same calc in test mode to study :)

grizzled sonnet
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okay, no problem then

grizzled sonnet
amber raft
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yep! :)

grizzled sonnet
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try to simplify the rest yourself

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you'll know its simplified when every constant has no exponent attached, and all the variables are raised to a number, with no other noise going on (like roots or parenthesis)

amber raft
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-3 a^(34/3) b^(22/3) is as far as i can get without getting stumped ch_doom

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idk how to use the fancy bot to get the pic

grizzled sonnet
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where are you getting 34 and 22?

grizzled sonnet
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the -3 is correct though

amber raft
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i did 11/1 +1/3 -> 33/3 +1/3=34/3 and 7/1+ 1/3-> 21/3+1/3=22/3

grizzled sonnet
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its not 11 + 1/3 its 11 * 1/3

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same with 7 * 1/3

amber raft
grizzled sonnet
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Remember:

$(x^n)^m = x^{nm}$

And so,

$(a^{11})^{\frac{1}{3}} = a^{11\cdot \frac{1}{3}} = a^{\frac{11}{3}}$

elfin berryBOT
amber raft
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-3 a^11/3 b^7/3 ?

grizzled sonnet
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yup

grizzled sonnet
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$a^3b^6a^{12}b^{-2} \rightarrow a^{15}b^4$

elfin berryBOT
amber raft
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ah ty

grizzled sonnet
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thats how youd simplify it all the way, but looking back at the original question, they dont seem to be simplified, lol

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funny enough, D is the only option that can be right, at a glance. this work isnt even required, apparently

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its the only one with a -3

amber raft
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it is d i have the answers provided lol but im confused how they got the squ root

grizzled sonnet
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i think what they want you to do is keep the "remainder" of 11/3 and 7/3 in the radical

grizzled sonnet
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$\sqrt[3]{a^{11}} = a^{\frac{11}{3}}$

$\frac{11}{3} = 3 + \frac{2}{3}$

The whole comes out of the radical, the remainder of 2 stays in the radical.

$a^3\sqrt[3]{a^2}$

We know that this is the same because:

$a^3\sqrt[3]{a^2} = a^3(a^2)^{\frac{1}{3}} = a^3a^{\frac{2}{3}}$

By the rule $x^nx^m = x^{n+m}$, we get

$a^{3 + \frac{2}{3}} = a^{\frac{11}{3}} = \sqrt[3]{a^{11}}$

elfin berryBOT
grizzled sonnet
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this is sort of how they got what they got

amber raft
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makes sense :)

grizzled sonnet
amber raft
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another question, what if the number isnt an easy cubed root like -27 where you get 3, and its something more like the cubed root of 98 =4.61 (rounded)

grizzled sonnet
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usually you just leave it like that. there are ways to approximate roots in your head but they are hard to remember and ive never run into a school that requires learning them

amber raft
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alright :) ty

grizzled sonnet
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especially since such things are often irrational there's literally no other way to write them than under a radical

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e.g.

$\sqrt[3]{2^{\frac{3}{2}}}$

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amber raft
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ty!

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i think i am good, thank you very much!

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np

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How to approach this question?

static quarry
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tell mitchell to solve his own damn problem

rancid geode
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this is what im thinking

still pumice
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Open interval

cosmic raptor
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hmmm, apparently the answer is [-20,infinity)

rancid geode
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idk how though since if it is infinity, then function goes to infinity as well

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yeah, ikrr

rancid geode
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there is absolutely that converges

cosmic raptor
proud arch
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.-.

static quarry
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-20 itself seems dubious, for large x the integrand will look like 1/x

still pumice
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Wtf

proud arch
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How

static quarry
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and 1/x ain't integrable

crystal lintel
still pumice
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-20 is diverage

rancid geode
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holy damn

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the more power

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the closer it gets a square

cosmic raptor
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yeah i'm confused as well

proud arch
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I don't think the answer is correct

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Idk what the question maker thinking

still pumice
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For sure its not…

merry pivot
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Wait

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Nvm

rancid geode
merry pivot
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Im stupid

static quarry
rancid geode
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it doesnt even converge here

merry pivot
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I read thay wrong

still pumice
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a -> +infinity the whole thing blows up

merry pivot
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I didn’t read it

static quarry
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also [-20,infty) is laughable, if mitchell thinks this is gonna converge with a=100 then he needs to go study poetry

rancid geode
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i think it should be (-infty, -18)

chilly spoke
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it says

such that the integral ... diverge

static quarry
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anything less than -20 will work

cosmic raptor
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oh wait, i didn't realise the question lol

static quarry
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(strictly less)

cosmic raptor
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my bad, it's supposed to diverge not converge

static quarry
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ohhh

rancid geode
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x^1 diverges

static quarry
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oh right it does say "diverges"

rancid geode
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makes sense

static quarry
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even more stupidly written than initially thought

cosmic raptor
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hahaha

proud arch
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They want to be unsolvable .-.

rancid geode
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we are dumb ourselves

static quarry
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reading is hard

rancid geode
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damn

still pumice
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D:

static quarry
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mitchell should teach us

rancid geode
still pumice
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Fr

proud arch
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What the hell kinda question is this

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'Make my life harder' ~ mitchell

cosmic raptor
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final exam questions 😦

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this was another question that i got stuck on, any points would be appreciated

merry pivot
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Alldis math to work a 9-5 job

static quarry
merry pivot
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Whos mitchless

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Mitchell

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He sounds wise

proud arch
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Put 2 = 2((sinx)^2 + (cosx)^2)

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And then put x = pi/ 2 -x

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Should do the trick I think

static quarry
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or try plugging in x=0 and x=pi/2

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(probably)

cosmic raptor
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someone from an upper course said expand and compare, but not sure how

static quarry
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too much work

merry pivot
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Actually maybe if pluggin in value done work

static quarry
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plug in two values of x that make it simple, then you have two linear equations with two unknowns

merry pivot
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Dont

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💀💀🗣️

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But expanding that would cost an arm and leg

static quarry
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my arm and leg both hurt just thinking about it

proud arch
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The nice thing is that

-(16x)^2 - (64-x^2)^2 = -(64-x^2)^2

merry pivot
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I mean if you put enough thought into it you can do anything 🗣️🗣️

proud arch
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So it's easier to think of c and b

cosmic raptor
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hmmm, if i plug it in some x values though, how will i get c and b

proud arch
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What are you doing with your leg bruh 💀

merry pivot
static quarry
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tbf it won't be my leg, it will be dlsyl's

proud arch
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And the incredible ability that leg carries as the epicenter of all though processes

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Makes it hurt

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Gotcha

static quarry
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yes that

merry pivot
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Yall r good at english too??

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Cuz tf r u saying

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Put this in math terms pls

cosmic raptor
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mitchell got more questions lol

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then his friend ali came in

static quarry
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oh no, ali is piling on

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time to find a better class of friends

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Any ideas?

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Sorry it's B^3 + C^3

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Hi, i was trying to solve this question but i havent been very good at it
Can someone help me? I dont know what to calculate its very vague

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Hello

smoky spire
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derive it

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and let it = 0

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then solve for

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x

still temple
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so first i differentiated this function and got 3x^2 - 10x + 3
and i used the quadratic formula to find x = 3, and a 1/3

smoky spire
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yes

still temple
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for the critical point analysis

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How do i determine whether they are min max or neither?

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plug in x = 3 and a 1/3 into the original function?

smoky spire
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u can plug x values back to the original function

high robin
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then you do the quadratic formula

still temple
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nothing to do with the second derivative?

glass silo
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Considering part b), you could also e.g. second derivative test

still temple
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Ok

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so

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find the 2nd derivative and plug in the x values

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see if they're increasing or decreasing by looking at the sign?

glass silo
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Basically, if it's strictly positive it's a min, if it's strictly negative, it's a max catokay

still temple
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these are from my notes

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Is this relevant for this problem?

glass silo
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Well, you could do it by checking the signs of the first derivative too as well, esp if they haven't introduced you to the second derivative test

still temple
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i got increasing for f''(3)

glass silo
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(the idea behind the second derivative test is that e.g. for the local min, your derivative goes from negative to zero to positive, so "must be increasing", and the implications for the derivative of the first derivative that brings catGiggle)

still temple
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and decreasing for f''(1/3)

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so is that correct?

glass silo
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catThink how do you mean "increasing" for those RooThink

still temple
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my answer is positive for f''(3)

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so im saying its increasing

glass silo
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Be very careful - what's increasing, and where?

glass silo
still temple
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Oh

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Hm

glass silo
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Damn it sky_kekegirlOwO

still temple
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so

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i see

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im confused

glass silo
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Have you covered the second derivative test before this?

still temple
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not really

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i just googled how to do everything

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i was sick for the past few days

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and i have a test on it tmmr

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so i think i understand now

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i should pick two values

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near x = 3 and near x = 1/3

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from the left and the right of those

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and see the sign change from the negative to the positive

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to determine whether it's a local min, local max, increase or decrease

glass silo
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And yep, have you heard that "your function is decreasing when its first derivative is negative, and increasing when its first derivative is positive"?

still temple
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perhaps, not 100% sure

still temple
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so thats first derivative test

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now for the second derivative test

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i plug in 3 and 1/3

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see the sign of the answer

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and at that point

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its a local max or min?

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and if its 0 its inconclusive?

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so

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x is a local minimum at 3 (the value was 8, 8 >0)
x is a local maximum at 1/3 (the value was -8, -8 <0)

glass silo
still temple
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lovely

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so

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the answer for part a

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is

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the critical points are x = 3, and a 1/3

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where x is a local minimum at x = 0 and
x is a local max at x = 1/3

glass silo
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Yep seems good to me SCgoodjob2

still temple
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alright

still temple
glass silo
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Do you know what an inflection point is? catThink

still temple
glass silo
still temple
glass silo
glass silo
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Ah wait yea you’re right, got myself mixed up bleakkekw

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They don’t change signs catthimc got myself mixed up with two things at the same time, just my luck

mossy parrot
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inflection point is when 2nd derivative changes sign

glass silo
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Where the first derivative goes from increasing to decreasing, which you can check by seeing the second derivative changes sign

still temple
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okay i think i understand inflection points so

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find the second derivative

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set it equal to zero

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find that number

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that x value is then plugged into the third derivative

mossy parrot
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yep

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wait

still temple
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if its equal to a non zero value

mossy parrot
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why 3rd derivative

still temple
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then it is an inflection point

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then you plug in the x back into the original equation to find y

still temple
glass silo
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(Might be easier to just check that the signs of the second derivative differ on either side)

still temple
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for the exam tmmr

mossy parrot
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just use a sign chart no?

still temple
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so let me find the inflection point using that method

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6x - 10 = 0
6x = 10
x = 10/6

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f'''(x) = 6

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so its already an inflection point

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plug back in 6 into the original equation

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(6)^3 -5(6)^2 + 5(6)

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i got 66

mossy parrot
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no

still temple
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according to google calculator

mossy parrot
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u plug in 10/6

still temple
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Ok

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Mb

mossy parrot
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and that 3rd derivativemethod is wierd

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just check

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if values greater than 10/6 are positive or negative

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and same for values below

still temple
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cannot

mossy parrot
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on the 2nd derivative equation

still temple
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gimme 1 sec my calculator is giving some issues

mossy parrot
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sign chart

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u can see the change in concavity

still temple
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i got

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-4 (7/27)

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so my inflection point would be

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10/6 and that -4 (7/27) for
x and y

mossy parrot
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is it right?

still temple
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i dunno

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u have the answer key?

still temple
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no

mossy parrot
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bruh

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did u plug in 10/6 correctly

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then u should be fine

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and plateaus

still temple
still temple
mossy parrot
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damn

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ab calculus?

still temple
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No

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not from america

mossy parrot
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ah

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its fine

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we dont learn your third derivative method here

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i am quite unfamiliar with it

still temple
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i think i plugged it in wrong lemme try it again

mossy parrot
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any other questions?

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calc is kinda fun to do

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nty

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fierce fulcrum
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how would i do this

marsh citrusBOT
fierce fulcrum
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,rotate

elfin berryBOT
vital dagger
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idk bro

fierce fulcrum
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could you do the secotr of the line thing

vital dagger
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I came here 4 help

fierce fulcrum
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oh

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ok

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waht is you rproblom

ebon solar
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no

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@vital dagger you have to open your own channel

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you can't ask it here

fierce fulcrum
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my bad @ebon solar

vital dagger
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oh

ebon solar
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no

vital dagger
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@fierce fulcrum look is this it?

ebon solar
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@fierce fulcrum this is YOUR channel

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@vital dagger get out of here

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fierce fulcrum
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yes leave @vital dagger

vital dagger
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ok.

ebon solar
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unless ur helping 🙂

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which you seem to be? idk

vital dagger
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I am

fierce fulcrum
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ok

rustic field
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well

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How lost are you?

fierce fulcrum
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well not that much i think

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could you do the line fourmlua thing

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for arc

rustic field
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what have thought of doing

fierce fulcrum
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like 60/360 x 8

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right ?

rustic field
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but u have to subtract something from it

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what can it be ? to get the white area ?

fierce fulcrum
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the traingle

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area

rustic field
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and that is ?

fierce fulcrum
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um the furmla of equalaterial traingle

rustic field
fierce fulcrum
rustic field
fierce fulcrum
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root 3/4 x 8^2

fierce fulcrum
rustic field
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yes

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Clear ?

fierce fulcrum
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so it would by (60/360 * pi * 8*8) *3 - (root 3/4 x 8^2)

rustic field
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no no

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multiply the entire thing by 3

fierce fulcrum
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why

rustic field
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cuz

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60/360 * pi * 8^2 - root(3)/4 * 8^2

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gives u the area

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of 1 white portion

fierce fulcrum
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of what

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oh

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yeah make sense

rustic field
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since their are 3

fierce fulcrum
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then times 3

rustic field
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yes

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ok thanks

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then

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thank you disco

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last bridge
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Where did they get the 2 in 2x(y+1)

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late geode
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coefficient of x^2

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Thanks

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dawg what the fuck

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is this hw

runic swan
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no

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its competition math

ebon solar
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u-sub $u = \arccos(x)$

elfin berryBOT
runic swan
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tried u sub

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failed

ebon solar
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it works

mossy parrot
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u sub is not possible

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idts

ebon solar
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dawg what

mossy parrot
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trust

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when in doubt integral calculator

runic swan
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no cuz

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u sub arccos

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is gonna be sqrt(1-x^2) du

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theres gonna be u and x

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u can't cancel out the x

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$\int e^{\arccos(x)}, dx = - \int e^u \sin(u), du = -\frac{1}{2}e^u (\sin u - \cos u) + C$

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runic swan
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how did u get sin u

mossy parrot
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waat

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derivative of arccos is not sin

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integral calculator got that

ebon solar
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yeah

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$\sin(u) = \sqrt{1-x^2}, \cos(u) = x$

elfin berryBOT
runic swan
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bro what

ebon solar
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i got the same thing

mossy parrot
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wtf

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ohhhhhhhhhhh

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i get it now

ebon solar
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🙂

mossy parrot
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x=cos u

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then u plug into the derivative

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1-cos^2u

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is sin^2u

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and rt is sinu

runic swan
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oh wait i see

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did u sin(arccos)

mossy parrot
ebon solar
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🙂

mossy parrot
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😢

runic swan
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damn

ebon solar
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competition math is crazy

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i dont really fuck w it

mossy parrot
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hella stressful

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wicked hawk
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I need to solve this question using quadratic functions. Not sure what to do after this step.

spare idol
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rearrange to make L the subject

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and then sub L into the formula of a rectangle

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then when you get an equation for A that only has the variable w unknown

wicked hawk
spare idol
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move the 2 to the other side to

spare idol
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then you let it equal to 0

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to find ur w value

wicked hawk
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What is dA/dw

spare idol
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derivative, have you learn differentiation yet?

wicked hawk
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No?

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Im in grade 11 pre calculus idk