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you as well

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Hello!

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I’m having trouble finding the rest of my dots in this quadratic graph

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I was wondering if anyone can lead me in the right direction

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Almost got the hang of this but so confusing

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I’m on question D I tried to lay out my steps as best as possible

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Sorry if it’s messy

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i just want to check if the final answer is okay, going from polar coordinates to cartesian

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main idol
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Oh no

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r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

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So r^3 = ?

fallen swallow
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oh [sqrt(x^2 + y^2)]^3

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i get stuck when operating with this, i recognize the form of each term in polar coordinates but my teacher said to also graph the equation. basically i get lost trying to simplify

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fallen swallow
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you mean this?

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i know that step but after doing so i struggle to simplify and obtain a familiar polar equation

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i was thinking of a Lemniscate but i cant get that form

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riemann

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3/2 * 2 = 3

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And √a = a^(1/2)

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hi i have found that the rank of the rref is 2. does this mean it spans a plane?

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yep that's what it would mean if the rank is 2

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I don't understand this at all could someone help?

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what have you tried so far?

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bro's typing the bible

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Haha

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tight furnace
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what will the terms be?

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sure

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you need a description of how the terms are ordered based on the b_i

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that is true but you need more than that

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find a simpler way to describe when one term is bigger than another without actually using the /7 stuff

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b1 = 3, b2 = 6, b3 = 6, b4 = 6
b1 = 4, b2 = 0, b3 = 0, b4 = 0

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which one is higher

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ah whatever

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this is just decimal expansion in base 7

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the digits are b1, b2, b3, b4 in order

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$0.b_1b_2b_3b_4$

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Dreyuk

tight furnace
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so you do this the same way you compare decimals

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yes

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No it's not gonna be both of them

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Oh wait

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what are you getting for all 4 values?

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oh maybe i'm off by 1

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2020th from the top is 402nd from the bottom

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,w 402 in base 7

tight furnace
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oh

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,w 382 in base 7

tight furnace
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ok yea looks good

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no worries lol

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i calculated the individual probabilities using the binomial pd list function on calculator and tried to use the complement rule to find 1-P(1st group has less successes) but that clearly takes too much time

vague tendon
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so what's the correct way

wary kite
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if the number of successes in the first is at least the number of successes in the second then x_1 >= x_2 hence x_1 - x_2 >= 0

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b right?

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ok tyty

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void elm
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if f isn’t specified, we don’t know

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idk

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what is the equation of f(x)

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We don’t know

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Extremely sorry I'm making another channel
A question came in my test today, it said: Let $L$ be a line $x + y + 1 = 0$, find the inclination of it from the y-axis.
I answered $\frac{\pi}{4}$
But I want to know, what's the complete definition of inclination of a line from another line.

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@misty plume

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If I say let my line be $L_1$ whose inclination from $L_2$ is asked, is it necessary that the angle swept must be taken from $L_2$ to $L_1$ counter-clockwise ?

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@misty plume

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How do I

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sharp sonnet
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how am i supposed to calculate the tolerance?

sharp sonnet
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i'm solving a for now

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do i use R_s and then make a jacobian matrix?

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a 1 row 3 collumn jacobian matrix

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first partial wrt R_1 second wrt R_2 and third wrt R_3 ?

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then what can i multiply it by?

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sharp sonnet
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damn no one

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no

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its in my math book

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its first order approximations

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no partial derivatives

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but it ain't physics 💀

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burnt abyss
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lim x->- inf of (x^3+x+1)/e^x

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burnt abyss
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why can i use l'hopital's rule here

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is it because -inf/inf isnt indeterminate

tight kite
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you can use l'hopital when you have an indeterminate inf/inf or 0/0

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both x³ + x + 1 and e^x go to infinity as x grows

burnt abyss
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oh mb i meant x-> - inf

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burnt abyss
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lim x-> - inf 6/e^x

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which should be 6 * inf = inf

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but it's wrong

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main idol
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no

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$\lim_{x \to -\y} e^{x} = ?$

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burnt abyss
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so it's inf/0

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main idol
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yes inf/0 is not indeterminate form

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just repeating what kaue already said

burnt abyss
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ok

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so -inf/inf is indeterminate

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right

main idol
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the signs generally have to be the same, but you can just factor out a - sign from the fraction outside the limit

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this implies they have to be the same sign

burnt abyss
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ok

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thanks

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red parrot
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how do I find the diagonal asymptote for this function? (x^2)/(x-1)

quiet anvil
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Use polynomial division

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polynomial long division that is

red parrot
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I'll have to search that up but thanks!

quiet anvil
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one second, and I'll show you a different example.

red parrot
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Oki

quiet anvil
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ok sorry

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going to start now

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I'm going to divide x^3 + 3x^2 + 3 by x+2

First, we write down our division in long division form. Except instead of powers of 10, we're concerned with powers of x. Other than that it's remarkably similar, and actually somewhat simpler (as our "ones" cannot affect our "tens" so to speak)

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x+2 | x^3 + 3x^2 + 0x + 3
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Now we consider x^3 + 3x^2, how many times does x + 2 go into this value?

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It goes into it x^2 times!

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      x^2
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x+2 | x^3 + 3x^2 + 0x + 3
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Now we multiply x^2 by x+3 to get x^3 + 2x^2 and subtract.

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      x^2
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x+2 | x^3 + 3x^2 + 0x + 3
     -x^3 - 2x^2
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             x^2 + 0x
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Next, we consider how many times x+2 goes into x^2, this is x times.

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      x^2 +  x
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x+2 | x^3 + 3x^2 + 0x + 3
     -x^3 - 2x^2
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             x^2 + 0x
            -x^2 - 2x
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                 - 2x + 3
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How many times does x+2 go into -2x + 3? That's -2 times.

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      x^2 +  x   - 2
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x+2 | x^3 + 3x^2 + 0x + 3
     -x^3 - 2x^2
     -----------
             x^2 + 0x
            -x^2 - 2x
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                 - 2x + 3
                -(-2x - 4)
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                        7
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Finally, we can't put x+2 into 7, so we have 7 as our remainder.

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So this mean:

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[
\frac{x^2 + 3x^2 + 3}{x+2} = x^2 + x - 2 + \frac{7}{x+2}
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elfin berryBOT
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OmnipotentEntity

quiet anvil
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And so our asymtote is going to be the parabola x^2 + x - 2

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and the remainder goes to zero as x becomes large.

burnt abyss
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this is eally amazing

red parrot
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ahh okay

burnt abyss
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but

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i suggest using synthetic division rather than long division

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it's way easier

junior copper
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I WAS WATCHING THIS THE WHOLE TIME

quiet anvil
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It's literally the same thing.

lone heart
burnt abyss
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nope synthetic is simpler and faster

quiet anvil
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Yes, but I'm doing this to teach why it works

burnt abyss
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at the end you get the same result

red parrot
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I switched schools and I have no clue what those things are😭 I'm writing a test tomorrow

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CaptainNova22

quiet anvil
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oh good, at least I didn't screw up 😄

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yeah

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oki

junior copper
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wow you can do poly divisionhere ??

burnt abyss
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i suggest going on youtube and watching a few videos

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to better understand it

red parrot
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I'll go over it and see if I get the write answer then

quiet anvil
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anyway, use synthetic division or polynomial long division, whichever you feel more comfortable with.

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to find the limiting behavior of the function

red parrot
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will do

burnt abyss
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!!!!!!!!!!

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remember

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synthetic division only works when the polynomial you're dividing by has degree 1

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otherwise you have to use long division

red parrot
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okay

burnt abyss
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good luck

red parrot
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Thank you!

quiet anvil
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slick latex function btw

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CaptainNova22

lone heart
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There's teh synthetic division

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anyone can help with this? i need to use first order approximation to find the overall tolerance.

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i ain't giving up @cloud bane

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lmao

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I have yeah

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no worries take you time

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if you can help that'd be great

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three ?

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😂

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790 and not 20%

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less

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yeah

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what did you do to get it

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damn

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yeah

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and the resistance

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,

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not .

sharp sonnet
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1/ that result

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yeah thats the resistance for B

sharp sonnet
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should come out to about 59.96

sharp sonnet
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for B its 5.64

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thats what the answer key says

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yeah

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probably

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its an approximation so

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yes please

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uhh okay

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you used this to find the final value

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yeah

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nono i did understand

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How did he get the -1

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We take it off the “(“

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5-x is like -1*(x-5)

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I solved a) pretty easily, slope =-1 and intercept @ L.
For b, I've managed to find that $\beta = \varphi - \theta$ since using the interior sums of the triangle $\beta=\pi - (\theta + z)$ where $z$ is $\pi - \varphi$
This feels like it should be simple trig rules but i've been inventing so many new useless angles and I could use some help 🫠

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this angle is $\pi-\pi/2-\sigma$ i think

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solved it

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Hi

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I need to solve this exercise

brave marsh
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What is it asking?

steel moth
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Graph the following piecewise functions, using graphing techniques. Also, determine their domain and range.

brave marsh
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Can you graph $3-(x+2)^2$?

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Azyrashacorki

steel moth
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I need graph 3 - (x+2)^2; if -4 < 4 < x < -1
2 + √x+1; if x > -1

brave marsh
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I know. The point is that if you can graph $3 - (x+2)^2$, then you can draw it between $-4$ and $-1$.

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Azyrashacorki

steel moth
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Yes

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north wadi
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expand it out

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or you can solve it here

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$$ -3 = -(x+2)^2 $$

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ziming

north wadi
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solve for the 2 x intercepts

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y intercept

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vertex

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and you should have enough to graph

steel moth
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I must graph 2 sections

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Something like that

north wadi
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this is a piecewise function?

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ah nvm i see

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plug in the x boundary values of this inequality

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you have your vertex

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so plot your vertex first

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plot it up to -1

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then plot your second function

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i need one helper let him speak spanish

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How did I get this

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I think I got it

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nvm

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wise oxide
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How they know R=1

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brave marsh
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The geometric series converges to 1/(1-t^3) if |t^3| < 1, so that is equivalent to |t| < 1.

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Multiplying by t and integrating doesn't change the radius

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So it will always be 1

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I mean in this case yes, but if you had like $\frac{1}{1 - \frac{t}{2}}$, then your radius would be 2

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Is that how it works

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Ok also for all these types of questions that says evaluate the integral that already has an integral in front I don’t need to find what c is?

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No, because C can be anything, so you couldn't find C even if you wanted.

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this question here i got an awnser like (−∞,−4)∪[1,2)∪(2,∞).

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its still an interval isnt it

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couldn't part (ii) be done without bringing in the supremum norm?
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so you can say it either way

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and not say "for all x in D"

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Guys, in which situation do we use Way A, and in which situation do we use Way B?

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Way A is adding the column of “others (other letters beside P and E)”
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how do I do part B ?

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Im new to matrix my answers for 1a) is k = 2 , and eigenvalue = 12

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it already gave me that no?

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[m
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you need to solve the system $6x - 3y = 12x$ and $2x + 7y = 12y$ then

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south, just south

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oh

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south, just south

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it also can be arranged into $(A - \lambda I)x = 0$

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south, just south

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well first of all, the trace is the sum of the eigenvalues

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so they can't be 4 and 12

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oh

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so use that to find the second eigenvalue

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then use that the determinant is the product of the eigenvalues in order to find k

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very very smart

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so use det(A-eigenvalue2) = 0?

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yea you can do it that way

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I need help

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solving this

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yo mathcord

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its been a while

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STEMS by CMI, problem 5, 2024, Category-A

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Where do I even start?

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linEx

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linEx?

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linearity of expectation

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uhh i think u mean i gotta do sum prob*outcome?

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whats the expected minimum of any random 2tuple

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that is precisely the problem

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i know the expectation is a+b/2 i think

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given a pair, what is the probability 1 is the minimum of said pair

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how many items are in your sample space

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and how many of them have one as a minimum

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9?

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until and unless its a doublet

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which cant happen in this case

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i meant to say given a random pair

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so it would be 9/45

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oh right cus 10C2

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yes

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so one term for your expected value would be 1*(9/45)

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so its 5*9/45?

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no

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you have to figure out the probability that 2,3,4... are minimum

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okay now i got it

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i did the whole Lagrangian and then minimised it

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$\mathcal{L}(w, \lambda, \gamma) = \frac{1}{2}w^\prime \Sigma w + \lambda(1 - w^\prime 1) + \gamma(\mu - w^\prime z)$

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$\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial w} = \Sigma w - \lambda 1 - \gamma z$

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$\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \gamma} = \mu - w^\prime z$

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let each of the partial derivatives = 0

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now im stuck

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<@&286206848099549185> quick douibt, what is integral from 1 to 2 ,x^2 d(lnx)

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here since its wrt lnx, so lnx belongs to [1,2] right? and not x

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d(lnx) is 1/x

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x^2 * 1/x is x

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so ur just integrating x from 1 to 2

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true

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limits will change to ln(2) and 0

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wait sorry my brain is completely fried

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honestly im pretty sure the limits dont need to be changed

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im not sure how id solve this tbh

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yeah I think this question is conditional probability

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but the Venn diagram part helps with finding P(woman AND goes out of business)

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Hi I have this it says study the continue and the derivability of F and G and then calculate G'
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Also consider if the bound goes to inf what will change?

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as we are integrating wrt to t

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How would the finished product of constructing a parallelogram ABCD look like if AB = 7cm and AD = 5cm but A=30°

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Sketch Re(ln(z)) = 2 on an argand diagram

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Help

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Me and my classmate took a 20 item multiple choice exam and we got the same score and even had the same answers in each item, what is the probability of that happening

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Each item has 4 choices A B C D

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And the questions given to us were the same

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theres a 1 in 4 chance that both of you match on one question

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so there'll be a (1/4)^20 chance that you match on all 20 questions

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This is a question from a national high school exam in a central european country.

Complex numbers are not a part of the high school syllabus there so students are not expected to know they exist when writing the exam.

The task is to solve the equation:

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the equation has 3 real solutions, and 2 complex solutions.

According to the markscheme the correct answer is the 3 real solutions.

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  1. is the markscheme wrong? The three real solutions are not all the existing solutions
  2. if a student answers with real and complex solutions, can their answer be then treated as incorrect?
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,w solve (x³ + 125)(x² - 64) = 0

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there are indeed 3 real solutions

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What exactly is the question asking for?

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“Solve the equation:”

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do you have a screenshot?

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# slate gazelle the equation has 3 real solutions, and 2 complex solutions. According to the m...
  1. is the markscheme wrong? The three real solutions are not all the existing solutions
    No. If the equation exists in the domain of real numbers, then there are only three solutions
  1. if a student answers with real and complex solutions, can their answer be then treated as incorrect?
    Probably. bing_shrug

If the student cannot explain that they choose 3 real and 2 complex solutions, then the grader has no way to know. Ultimately, the wording of the problem is poor. It should ask "find the number of distinct real solutions", or the beginning of the exam should clarify that all solutions are expected to be real-valued numbers.

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The wording is as it is, and there is no clarification at the beginning. The domain isn’t mentioned. It’s just assumed that no one who takes the exam knows what complex numbers are. The markscheme says to reward the two points only if the answer is -8, 8 and -5. Any other answer, less/more solutions, etc and the student receives 0 points as the grader must follow the markscheme

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Considering all the facts, is the question/markscheme wrong or am I missing something?🤷‍♂️

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Discrete Fourier Transform Q

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I have some signal [0,1,0,-1] and the DFT of it is [0,-i/2,0,i/2] and I have no interpretation as to why

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I get that the first DFT value must be 0 since the constant component of the signal is 0

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but why for frequency 1 the value -i/2 and for frequency 3 the value i/2 idk

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I thought I'd use this signal as simple example as it mimics a sine curve, so I thought I'd get only one component in the DFT with magnitude 1, but instead I have 2 now

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did you get this DFT from python?

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or did you calculate it

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for python you have to be careful because it returns the FFT in a specific way

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yes numpy doesn't normalize, it'd yield [0,-2i,0,2i] instead

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I mainly don't get how the DFT explains the initial signal

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oh i see

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i understand ur q now

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your signal [0,1,0,-1] is a sinusoid

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a REAL sinusoid

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aand

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$\sin(x) = \frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}$

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so you decomposed a sine into its two complex exponentials

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I watched 3B1B's DFT series in parallel :]

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missed a day in class what is this vector chart????

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x vs t being displacement vs time and v vs t being velocity vs time

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how do i relate that visual to the graphs?

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well you already drew v vs t it looks like

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sort of

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are you having trouble with x vs t?

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yeah

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and im unsure v vs t

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okay, well let's think about what the visualization means in real life

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suppose you move at a constant velocity for 1 second.

you have some x0 before you started moving, and some x1 after

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what can we say about the relationship between x0 and x1? assuming your velocity is positive, is x1 greater than x0, equal or less? if it's greater or less, how does it change with respect to time (is it linear [smooth] or quadratic [curved])

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looks pretty smooth to me

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suppose these two lines describe a points position with respect to time

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can you visualize what their motion might look like

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are either of them moving at a constant speed (initially)? what does the flat line mean?

lime pumice
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the speed and velocity of the line and the curve are the same though the speed of the linear lines is constant and the red speeds up with respect to y

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the blue ones speed and velocity are faster because the path is more direct

grizzled sonnet
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you are right that the blue line is linear, and that that implies constant speed, but an important thing to realize here is that this says nothing about path

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these particles are both traveling in a straight line

lime pumice
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but the total distance of the red one is higher because the path is less direct

grizzled sonnet
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the path is not less direct, they are both traveling along the same path

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let me try to illustrate this

lime pumice
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the velocity which is the x of the graph

grizzled sonnet
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time is x, displacement is y

grizzled sonnet
lime pumice
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1/3(y/x) is the velocity but the distance is different, if you integrated and then found the +x and the +y of a couple points the distance would be different??? this is what my teacher taught me

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im just confused about the motion map

grizzled sonnet
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you can see that they both take a straight line to get to their destination

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the path is, literally, the same

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the blue line in the graph i drew represents the motion of the blue dot, you can tell it has a constant speed because it moves the same distance between every instant (assuming these instants are equally spaced, which they are)

the red line represents the red dot. you can tell its speed isnt constant because it starts out slower, and then ends up getting to the end first. essentially, it accelerated.

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the flat line at the end depicts when they stop

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even though there speed is zero, they are still displaced from their original starting position

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they arent moving, so it doesnt go up, but they are still displaced. if they returned to their starting positions, the graph would show a fall back down to 0.

grizzled sonnet
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this is sort of what you should "see" when you look at a visualization like that

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it moves at a constant speed, then stops. then repeat.

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the reason that this visualization is so helpful is because it actually draws the line for you

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does any of this not make sense?

lime pumice
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yeah i never got told any about the motion map i dont get why its going up

grizzled sonnet
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the y axis is displacement

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the further away from your starting position you go, the more it should go up.

lime pumice
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where from the map does the displacement come from

grizzled sonnet
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velocity

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its velocity vs. time

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if you move at a constant speed, then in a given amount of time you move a set distance (the same distance no matter what)

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look at these side-by-side

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in the first "section" of the velocity graph, you are moving

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so from t=0 to t=1, you move some distance

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in the second section, you arent moving

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so from t=1 to t=2, you havent moved

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in the third section you move again, so from t=2 to t=3, you've moved the same distance you moved the first time (i.e. "constant" velocity)

lime pumice
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awesome i see so velocity 4/7 bc 4up 7right?

grizzled sonnet
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i mean, sure, but units, units, units. each of those gaps could be 10m, and so your velocity would be 40 meters in 7 seconds.

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the numerical values aren't really the point, its more the trend you have to see

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but yes, 4/7 is a constant, so if you wanted you could say (4/7 m) / second, you'd get the same trend

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still confused?

lime pumice
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on getting the motion map to the t,x graph not really i think but could you explain the v vs t

grizzled sonnet
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well that ones really simple

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what is the velocity, v, in these intervals?

lime pumice
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0

grizzled sonnet
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right, so if its velocity vs. time, where will the line be during those times?

lime pumice
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+1v

grizzled sonnet
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no

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if the velocity is 0

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and its velocity vs time

lime pumice
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on the ground and the other one is +1v

grizzled sonnet
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yes

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so what does the graph look like

lime pumice
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like my picture

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?

grizzled sonnet
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yes

lime pumice
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how do you write a math expression for that

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well, you wouldnt normally need to. but if you are curious, let's say you have constant velocity for c time, and then 0 velocity for c time, back and forth

t is current time & v is the constant velocity you travel at, and v(t) describes the function of velocity vs time,

v(t) = v*mod(floor(t/c), 2) i believe?

lime pumice
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im not sure thats what im asking lol

grizzled sonnet
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lime pumice
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i was trying to find that earlier i couldnt get it lol

grizzled sonnet
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oh wait

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no i think i was right, lol

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yeah i just put it in wrong

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well actually its v*mod(floor( (t-c) / c, 2)

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for intervals of length 2 and velocity 10, for example

lime pumice
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strange ill just ask him tomorrow

grizzled sonnet
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i do find that question odd i wonder if thats actually what hes asking

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im not sure you can do that without modular division and it seems unlikely to see that in a physics course

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well, an introductory one

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lime pumice
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4/7= 0.57?

grizzled sonnet
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thats for a straight line, though. if you evaluated that at t = 1 you would not get what you expect

lime pumice
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yeah it woulld be 0.60x/t

grizzled sonnet
grizzled sonnet
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red is your actual line, blue is what slope (rise/run) will give you

lime pumice
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well the red line linearized is the blue line which is what he wants i believe i missed a day lol

grizzled sonnet
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actually this is more accurate but same idea

grizzled sonnet
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if that's what he wants thats what he wants

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but that's an odd way to phrase it

lime pumice
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yeah thats the velocity of the red line

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bc the disp and time is the same in both

grizzled sonnet
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no the velocity of the red line is constant

grizzled sonnet
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it doesnt increase w time

lime pumice
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ik the velocity of the red and blue is the same right

grizzled sonnet
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the blue line doesnt really have much significance here; its basically a heuristic to guess where the particle is given t. without knowing what intervals it stops at

grizzled sonnet
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same distance/time overall but in general red is either faster or slower depending on if its moving or not

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its like if you raced usain bolt, except he took breaks

lime pumice
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well yeah i forgot it is called Vsubscribt(avg)

grizzled sonnet
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oh

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well, yeah if that's what you are looking for. still dont think that the way the question was asked implies that at all

lime pumice
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so would it would like 1xbreak1,1xbreak1,so on

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if u get my thinking

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like how would you write one

grizzled sonnet
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that one is a bit harder, tbh

lime pumice
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i added bc i saw the mutual server

grizzled sonnet
lime pumice
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also i have another question about the graphs

grizzled sonnet
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ye

lime pumice
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you can see i sorta added the area and got 6.5xt @ t=5 and the other was 3x^2/t @=5 obvioulsy it happens because they are different kinds of graphs but the units i got are different and could or couldnt be equal???

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is this a weird question?

grizzled sonnet
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why are you adding the area ? basically just integrating

lime pumice
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im sorta a nerd and just thought to for some reason

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yeah basically

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yeah this was the idea but the integration is crossed out bc my teacher said integration bad

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do you think the answers i got for each graph could be the same?

grizzled sonnet
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you shouldnt integrate displacement, you get something called absement which is a topic you'll probably never see

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the integral of velocity is displacement, though.

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so if you sum up all those areas you under v vs t you should get the final displacement

lime pumice
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why doesnt x*t work though?

grizzled sonnet
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displacement * time?

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thats absement

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its just a unit you wont use

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it works but it doesnt mean anything useful

lime pumice
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but is it equal to the disp or you cant know bc its with time?

grizzled sonnet
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you are basically comparing velocity and acceleration

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its just different units

lime pumice
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displacement for how long is dt?

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which is acceleration?

grizzled sonnet
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you are confusing me .-.

dt as in Δtis change in time
dt as in dt in an integral, is the integration of any function with respect to the variable t, usually velocity or acceleration with respect to time t

the velocity / acceleration comment was an analogy. im saying the units you create by completely arbitrarily choosing to take the integral of position, create "absement" and that "absement" is as different from displacement as velocity is from acceleration. neither pair really makes sense to compare to each other.

lime pumice
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distance(time)

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i meant

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is just absement?

grizzled sonnet
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distance / time is speed
distance / time * time = distance, which is displacement

so, distance * time would be absement. the integral of a constant displacement d with respect to time, is d*t, yes. this would be in units of "meter seconds"

lime pumice
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metre-second is wild

grizzled sonnet
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physics has some wild units

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for example, angular velocity is just "per second"

lime pumice
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i teacher said that one time when we were doing unit

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meter second

grizzled sonnet
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not meters per second or feet per second, just.. "per second"

grizzled sonnet
lime pumice
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its was just a bunch of random units on x and y

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welp goodnight im not active on osu server but i play

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Does anyone know of a variant of the Bradley-Terry model that deals with ties and player-/match-specific control variables? Is it a sensible approach for a logistic regression implementation to just add explanatory variables on top of the player dummies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley–Terry_model

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still temple
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how to know when is x^2 - x is decreasing in magnitude after 0

grizzled sonnet
still temple
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yes

grizzled sonnet
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find the derivative, set it equal to 0 and solve for x, this is the "critical point"

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when its not changing at all, that means its flat, and on either side of that point it must either increase or decrease

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find the side its decreasing on and then you should have the interval

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for example if it decreases after the critical point (from x = k to infinity), then your interval is $[k, \infty)$

if it decreases before the critical point, your left bound is 0 (per the problem), so the interval is $[0, k)$ (or if 0 is not included, $(0, k)$

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actually its been years since i did cal 1, i dont remember if you include the critical point here

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i dont think so though

elfin berryBOT
still temple
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wait

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What's the answer then?

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I am asking decrease in magnitude, not decrease in value

grizzled sonnet
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huh? is this something i havent heard of lol? is the magnitude not the y value?

still temple
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The magnitude is abs(f(x))

grizzled sonnet
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oh, duh

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wouldnt it just be inverted

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at the critical point in the normal function, it is decreasing on the left and increasing on the right

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in the abs function, it is decreasing on the right, increasing on the left

still temple
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So the answer is from 0.5 to 1?

grizzled sonnet
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well, yes, but the abs adds extra steps to get there

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in general:

solve for the 0s of the original function
take the derivative
find the critical point
plug that into the original function
if its positive, dont invert when checking increasing/decreasing
if its negative, invert

the answer is then the critical point to the (post inversion if applicable) zero of the original function in that direction, if there is none, the infinity in that direction, unless you have another bound

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i believe

grizzled sonnet
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in this case, critical point is x = 0.5, and it decreases on the left. but in the original function, f(0.5) is negative, so we go right. the zero to the right of x = 0.5 is x = 1, so the bound is 0.5 to 1, in this case

wary kite
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if you want to do this analytically just note that the derivative of |x| is x/|x|

wary kite
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$|x| = \sqrt{x^2}$

elfin berryBOT
wary kite
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hence

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$\frac{d}{dx} |x| = \frac{d}{dx} \sqrt{x^2} = \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2}} = \frac{x}{|x|}$

elfin berryBOT
wary kite
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hence

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$\frac{d}{dx} |x^2-x| = \frac{(x^2-x)(2x-1)}{|x^2-x|}$

elfin berryBOT
wary kite
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2x-1 from chain rule

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then for it to be decreasing we require this to be < 0

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$\frac{(x^2-x)(2x-1)}{|x^2-x|} < 0$

elfin berryBOT
wary kite
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denominator is always nonnegative, so for this to be less than zero we need 2x-1 < 0 and x^2-x > 0 or x^2-x < 0 and 2x-1>0

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for the first the intersection of the two intervals is x<1/2 and (x<0 or x>1) hence we have x < 0 but we said we were ignoring that in your question

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we get x<0 btw because x<1/2 and (x<0 or x>1) is equivalent to (x<1/2 and x<0) or (x<1/2 and x>1) the second part is the empty set since x cannot both be less than one half and greater than 1, so we just consider the first part and the intersection of x<1/2 and x<0 is just x<0

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now for the second intersection we have 0<x<1 and x > 1/2 hence we just have x > 1/2

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@still temple

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@red nimbus did you really just 🔥 because i said positive instead of nonnegative lol

wary kite
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lol

red nimbus
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the denominator must be always positive

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still temple
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Solved

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I will look at your messages later

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I am busy now

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thanks

winter anchor
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the disrespect is crazyy

wary kite
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what

wary kite
winter anchor
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I'll look at your messages later
damn, you helped them and they hit u with that

wary kite
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it’s all good

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they’re probably in class or some shit

still temple
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?

wary kite
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lol

still temple
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$\frac{d}{dx} |x^2-x| = \frac{(x^2-x)(2x-1)}{|x^2-x|}$

elfin berryBOT
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anjali

still temple
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How you got 2x-1

wary kite
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chain rule

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derivative of x^2-x

still temple
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oh

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I'll just skip this

wary kite
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skip what

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the question?

still temple
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this step

wary kite
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why

still temple
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idk chain rule lol

wary kite
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do you know differentiation at all?

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calculus

still temple
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nope

wary kite
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oh lol then yea this won’t help you

still temple
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yeah

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It was fun tho

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thanks

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.close

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wat the hll

wary kite
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deep grail
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How do I find the domain and range of this function

deep grail
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What I usually do for the domain x > 0 and solve

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And the range I get from the graph

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But I can’t draw this function

grizzled sonnet
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domain is "what values of x is it defined on"

we know we cant sqrt negative numbers
and we know we cant do 1/0

everything else is fair game

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so if we cant do 1/0,

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When is $\ln(1-2x^2) = 0$

elfin berryBOT
grizzled sonnet
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and if we cant do sqrt(x) for negative numbers,

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When is $\sqrt{x}$ undefined

elfin berryBOT
grizzled sonnet
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your domain is "everything else"

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@deep grail

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as for range, its the max and min value you can get out of this function. can you think of how we might approach that?

deep grail
grizzled sonnet
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ln(x) = y means e^y = x

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so e^0 = 1 - 2x^2

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so 1 = 1 - 2x^2

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so 0 = -2x^2

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more simply, any log(x) = 0 when x = 1, so just set the inside = 1 whenever you see that

deep grail
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Ok that makes sense

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And for the range?

grizzled sonnet
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let's see if you can figure out the logic. start somewhere, and we'll go from there.

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think about what makes the function really small, and what makes it very large.

deep grail
grizzled sonnet
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not quite

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when x is negative infinity, the sqrt term is undefined.

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these things are case-by-case, honestly

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limits are a good spot to start though, the thinking is similar

deep grail
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We said that the domain was R/{sqrt(1/2)}

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So we get the limit there and infinity

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We should have alp the values there

grizzled sonnet
deep grail
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Oh I miss calculated mb

grizzled sonnet
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The smallest value $f(x) + g(x)$ can produce is $\min(f(x)) + \min(g(x))$.
Therefore the smallest value $\frac{1}{\ln(1-2x^2)} + \sqrt{x}$ can produce is $\min(\frac{1}{\ln(1-2x^2)}) + \min(\sqrt{x})$

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deep grail
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Nvm😂

grizzled sonnet
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lol

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its undefined for negatives, and for when the ln term is 0

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so whats the domain?

deep grail
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(0,infinity)?

grizzled sonnet
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yup

deep grail
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What is the smallest value for f(x)

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For g(x) its 0

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But we can’t have 0 in f(x)

grizzled sonnet
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even if we did

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1/0 approaches infinity

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lol

deep grail
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I don’t get it

grizzled sonnet
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whats the smallest value for 1/u

deep grail
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If its 0 it approaches infinity but its not 0

grizzled sonnet
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we want the minimum value

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that's getting larger

deep grail
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Oh ok I get it

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And for the max value?

grizzled sonnet
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well whats the minimum value?

deep grail
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Close to 0

grizzled sonnet
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yes, why?

deep grail
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And that gives us infinity

grizzled sonnet
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no

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you are thinking in terms of x

deep grail
grizzled sonnet
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when x is 0

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we get a big value

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we dont care what x is

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we want a small value

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range is y; the result