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the solution is wrong
I'll briefly reexplain why
when you do (cases that work)/(total number of cases)
this gives you the probability ONLY if each case has the same probability of happening
right
this is the "plane crash into my house" example all over again
so MMII does not have the same probability as M I N U
for example yes
right
yeah
fair enough
it makes sense now
what about this noe
is it just 8C4 - 5C1 / 8C4
yeah
are there really only 5 equally likely scenarios where this is false?
out of the 8C4 choices?
oh wait its 5C2/8C4
yeah exactly
is there some wack probability mistake here
cause theres an equsl cahcen of each thing
oh right
here there is an equal chance of every combination of 4 students happening
considering each student is different
so that previous question is an anomali
yh ok
yeah, it's teacher's fault for that mistake
or whoever wrote the previous solution
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I have problem with the question number d)
What am I supposed to do
I have the solution sheet but I don't understand the next step and the other steps
Can you explain the concepts in a way that I can generate the answer here and in similar questions to this or very different but basically be able to apply the concepts
find all ways X1 + X2 can add up to 5
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What is X_1 and X_2 from the question
X1 and X2 value
X1 and X2 are copies of X
So they have the same probabilities for each x value
right
Based on the x values
they can't add up to 5
based on the distribution table I mean
So I take both those probabilities and say = 0 bcz they are not 3 or 2 but
4+1 is possible so maybe there is 1
Ya but as an individual value there is no 1
So its basically asking the probability of any of the 2 random variables sum being 5
But that is not possible even if we add any 2 random variables
But what is the intersection part then
^
Why in the solution sheet only 2 ways have been considered 3 2 and 2 3 why not 4 1
which x value gives X1 or X2 equal to 4
so why do you think this is possible
2 is certainly possible
how?
oh you're right it has probability zero
but it takes some checking because x=2 is part of the definition
takes som checking meaning
Definition of what?
verifying that when x=2 that that's 0
whereas for x=4, there's nothing to check
since this is 0 when x=4
Oh so we have to always take x values which are there in the distribution
as the random variables
So what is the intersection part meaning
is that just the addition rule
So there are two independent observations so that's why 2 3 3 2
yes
If based on probability we have an independent observation
it can be 2 3 2 3 twice as well
right
no idea what you mean
or because of the same value that observation would be same
In the solution sheet
(X1=3) and (X2=2) is different from (X1=2) and (X2=3)
It says P(X 2 intersection 3 ) + P (X 3 intersection 2)
Got it and what about the intersection part
i don't know what you're confused about
uh huh what about it
and the other way around
So how did intersection come here
What's the conceptual reason of it being here
2 + 3 = 5
I have not conceptually connected probability rules with discrete random variables that well I feel
So the value of probability
But why intersection
intersection is plus
But union is plus right?
Is intersection plus or union plus or both of them are plus?
intersection means "and"
Is it possible I could have done the question just like this without the intersection signs like
P(X1=3)+P(X2=2)= 0+0= 0
union means "or"
So both cases we add?
no this is not true in general
If $A = [X_1 = 3], B = [X_2=2]$, then $P(X_1 =3 \cap X_2 =2) = P(A \cap B) = P(A) * P(B)$ by independence
riemann
How do we know they are independent
But if its independent then it will 3*2 = 6
read your problem more carefully
nowhere did i say P(A) = 3
so why in the solution sheet the probability is added is that a mistake
because it should 0*0
=0
it's not wrong, just skipped a step. 0 * 0 + 0 * 0 = 0
Oh
makes sense
For the next part of the question
I just add the random variable probability values to make y
So have spent some time doing this question and understanding more
Is y=3 wrong because that is possible if $$P(X_1=2) \times P(X_2=1) +P(X_1=1) \times P(X_2=2)= 0 \times 0.25+0 \times 0.25=0$$
Educo
I think this question is almost done just this last knowledge gap
So is my working correct for y= 3 the end one
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its not correct I am not getting the answer but for the same process I am getting the previous answers
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if no one is answering cant you just try chatgpt or something
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i try 😶
Got it you will get there
but i dont know how to solve it
thank you
Your Welcome
i hope you find your answer tho
Thank You
is it an assignment
have you asked a teacher
I have no teacher since doing maths a levels for the first time as I am going in CS quit medicine so not in a school anymore already graduated
oohhh welp idk anymore uhm wow
have you tried photomath thats my last suggestion ig
Ya didn't check that let me check Ty for the suggestion
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Two identical rectangular prisms each have a height of 90 centimeters (cm). The base of each prism is a square, and the surface area of each prism is Kcm. If the prisms are glued together along a square base, the resulting prism has a surface area of 92/47 K cm2. What is the side length, in cm, of each square base?
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When we combine the 2 rectangular prisms we get 2K-2s^2
the reason behind -2s^2 is because when we combined the 2 rectangular prisms we lost the area of the square base at the end
And we know the surface area of the two prisms combined is 92/47K so 2K-2s^2=92/47K
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hello
how does $1/a+b * (1/a+1/b)$
3rdWorldHero
can someone tell me how to make $ a/1$ make numerator and denom on bottom ?
$x//y$ test
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Okay, how can I find side length s?
Can I substitute 'k' for 2s^2+4sh? It will then become like this 2(2s^2+4sh) -2s^2=(92/47)K
Is that correct?
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Is that right?
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Im on the second derivative
Wanted confirmation these were the rules for the next derivative
Idk the d format well.
I was just asking someone how important is it to learn because I only know the f(u) format. 😅
Say you have a function of x:
cos(x^2).
You define u as x^2.
f(u)=cos(u)
df/du means take the derivative of cos(u) with respect to u
du/dx means take the derivative of u with respect to x. So it’s the derivative of x^2
Oh youre just saying I need to chain rule.
I think I know how to do the rules I wrote down. Just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing one.
Looks all good
Ayy, thats good to hear. Identifying when to use them has been my biggest issue. Thanks for the verification before I do all the math for it.
Hopefully wont be back to ask where I messed the math up. 😂
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what does $\frac{\partial^2}{\partial x\partial y}$ mean
Jash
,, \pdv{}{x,y} = \pdv{}x \pdv{}y
cloud
so it's the second partial derivative, first with respect to y and then with respect to x
so does this mean to multiply the partial derivative with x with partial derivative with y
no, it means take the partial derivative with respect to y, then take the partial derivative of that with respect to x
ohh
Should do a couple examples to get accustomed to the notation
ye cuz im tryna figure out hessian determinant
Try evaluating this for f(x,y) = sin(x) * e^y
That's not readable
im trying to find if a function has a global extrema
or global minimum
or neither
and the function given is $f(x,y)=\frac{\sin x+\sin y}{x^2+y^2+2}$
Jash
Jash
Yea find one partial at a time then
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i gtg I'll be back later
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Me and some of my friends are having trouble understanding what to do on this question. We were told to use laws of sin or cos
what does FR represent?
The resultant
well given you don't know the angle
you will most likely be using inverse trigonometric functions
You could put each vector tip to tail and redraw (which is often useful in force questions)
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After trying to use cos to find the angle i got 1.709 degrees would that be correct?
i'll try again another time as Im having a headache
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How do I even start
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hello
quick question
how is this not right
shouldnt it be a right triangle, with the left leg as some variable h, the bottom leg as 7, and the hypotenuse as 25?
doing pythagorean theorem gives 24 as the left leg initally
and then shouldnt you be losing 2 per second since it falls 2 feet per second?
Well it stays a right triangle so you can use Pythagoras theorem I guess, do something like y(t)^2+x(t)^2=25^2
Then solve for y in terms of t after plugging in x
j
would this be like rightg
I mean you could maybe try to simplify
Ok
See if it’s possible
But that does look good to me at least until the ladder is perfectly flat
Then it would break down
Since Pythagorean theorem breaks
$2\sqrt{144-7t-t^2}$
But it also doesn’t matter much since that’s at the end of the motion
j
wait why would this not be 24 tho
Yea
I forgot that part we learned it last year
Well try plugging 24 into that
It makes sense so Thank you my friend
Tell me what happens
oh its imaginary
$-16\le :t\le :9$
j
Remember that it’s not the range but the domain
That’s why 24 doesn’t make sense here
It doesn’t take 24 seconds to fall
0<=t<=9?
Yeah time would be positive generally
Wonderful
Thank you very much Bro
24*
Yeah exactly
Thank you so much
Wait 9 was wrong
,w t^2+7t-144
yeah
And at t=0 it outputs 24 and at t=9 it goes to 0
yea
So that should be the time elapsed for the motion
Maybe do -16 to 9
Because it just ask about the range of t values for the function
Not necessarily referencing the physics
Oh lol I’m blind I see
lol
i might just ask other people if they got it
but i have to wait until monday then
but this is so stupid
I don’t think we did anything wrong and I can’t see anything in the problem statement that’s tricky
Could it be a quirk with the program maybe
Like does it want 9.0 or something dumb like that
Do you have unlimited attempts?
nope
i think if i miss it once more I lose points for the question
yeah this program we use sucks
This should be right so maybe talk to your teacher about it
i lost two points earlier for rounding differently than them.. even tho i was correct
Ok
Thank you for helping
No problem good luck
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Just wanted some confirmation if I'm doing this right, basically all I want to do here is integrate right? the position is just whatever(t) which is already there on the right just naturally and then the initial condition would basically just be the integrated version + c which would make the initial condition 1 = c
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This is gr 12 math
And we’re doing long division with polynomials
Except I’m confused on the next step
Like what do I do
Should I bring the -2x^2 down?
Because I have 3x^3 - 7x^2
Oh nvm
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We're trying to find a way to make the number 1 go up and down by 10% and 20% stackable modifiers using this equation where a is a 10% stackable modified, b is a 20% stackable modifier, and c is a stackable 10% modifier but we keep finding ourselves with a loss after a couple of stacks
1*((a/5) + 1) * ((b/10) + 1) *1/(c/10) +1
if a=1 , b = 1 , c = 1:
1*((a/5) + 1) * ((b/10) + 1) *1/(c/10) +1 = 1.2 (Good)
if a=-1 , b = 1 , c = 1
1*((a/5) + 1) * ((b/10) + 1) *1/(c/10) +1 = 0.8 (Good)
if a = 2, b = 2, c = 1
1*((a/5) + 1) * ((b/10) + 1) *1/(c/10) +1 = 1.52727272727 (Bad)
Is there a better way to do this?
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why's 1.52727 bad?
what do you want it to be?
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I think the original equation will actually give us a better idea of what we're trying to do , I may have biffed the explanation a lot because I'm really tired right now , sorry
the one i just sent is the original equation , we tried to play around with it to figure out something a little better and we figured that first one i sent here was a better equation for what we were trying to do
so do you want it to be like 9 instead of 9.0909...?
if so, you can use b*(1 - x/10) instead
you want this to be additive stackable right?
i believe so yeah
i also just kind of want to know why the final number is doing that in the first place
because maybe we can also just figure it out from there
it's doing that because multiplying by 1/1.1 is equivalent to solving what base so that a +10% modifier would make it 10
and it's not 9 bc 9*1.1 is just 9.9
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I have a geometric question.
just ask
ask
pcmg you've done this so many times. When you start a new channel, you should ask your question in the first message.
I'm discouraged to ask question. I had a negative feedback which makes me feel sad
I will send you the link
people told me to close my channel and then left me
Anyway.
Given a point, let's say P, on the xy plane such that PB/PA=3/1
Would the trail of P be a circle?
what have you tried?
my approach makes me sad
I assume P=(x,y)
I cannot see the graph of P
furry animal!
until I got that very bottom line and realized it is a circle.
furry animal!
why?
why
I do not like the algebra-based solution
it is bulls
I should see the graph at the first sight like a robot
and I DO NOT HAVE TO BE A ROBOT TO RECOGNIZE THE GRAPH AT THE FIRST SIGHT
just gives me the tip.
Newton could achieve that
Why we cannot solve it like an ellipse
Like some rope and stuff
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Bro 
It's just that you don't have to ask your question in multiple channel.
One channel is enough
If you open a new one, close the previous one
That's how things work here
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Point P is (x,y). Let the point A be (x1, y1) and B be (x2, y2).
We know that PB/PA = 3
Then how about putting the PB and PA in it. For ex : PB = √(x²-x2²) - (y²-y2²). Then solve the equation you will get a final equation in a form
(x-h)² + (y-k)² = r²
Where h,k are the centre of the circle and r is the radius.
Hence proved that Trail of P will be a circle
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Sheeesh
@compact crescent try this and if you get stuck feel free to open a channel here and ask
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Is the best way to solve this just to use the quotient rule to find the derivative and then solve for which values of x are roots to the polynomial in the nominator in the derivative? (See 2nd picture for derivative)
yea it's a good approach
One more thing
in the product rule you can forget which is f(x) and g(x) kinda as the order doesn't matter. Is it the same for quotient rule or do i have to memorize in its entirety so i dont take g'(x) * f(x) - f'(x)*g(x) in the nominator by accident?
you have to memorize cuz they cant be flipped 😦 🙃
or for me, i will usually only use product rule
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e.g. for this question
I'll take f(x) as (x²-2x+5)(1-x)^(-1)
so that i only have to remember product rule
(i always forgot the ordering of quotient rules)
ohh ok will memorize then, but its just a result from the product rule right? so i could "derive" the qoutient rule if i needed/wanted to?
ohh thats smart
you're right!
Last thing if i can be a bit shameless 🙂 i've never used a sign table(mbe?) so do i just look that up and solve b and c or is there some trick to those?
do i just try numbers around my stationary points?
and see if the deriv is pos/neg
ok wbout c then
yea, just plug neighbouring numbers to the calcuator lol
oh
convex and concave
its about 2nd derivative
convexity and concavity is always hard to remember my teacher taught me conCAVE as it looks like a cave opening or downward smile, while convex is the opposite right? 🙂
yea, i remember it using the word cave too
Oh ok i can calculate the 2nd deriv but is it a similar process where i try numbers or something?
how do i find the interval of -inf to 1 and 1 to inf
really?
oh, you'll have to see where the f''(x) = 0 or DNE
and it's the case x=1
so we check when x<1 and x>1
tables again lol
wait so as the 2nd deriv is negative when x > 1 it is concave there on out and convex when 2nd deriv is positive when x < 1?
and for 1 it is not defined
How do you get the 2nd deriv is it just quotient rule or prod rule again?
yep
correct
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What is the error in this
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nope
Here, if you see in point 1, f(X) = X^3, why have they taken the expectation value of that when it is clearly mentioned it should be just X^3
You can verify this in point 2. where they have subsituted the RV directly instead of the Expectation of the f(X) or g(X)
Please tell me where I am going wrong
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If you multiply a row or a column by 6, the determinant is multiplied by 6
so if you multiply both rows by 6...
nonono
take any matrix M that is 2*2
if you multiply one row of M by 6
the determinant becomes 6* det(M)
if you multiplied the whole matrix by 6
then yeah having 3 rows the determinant is multiplied by 6^3
no that wasn't it
it's actually constant^n * det(M)
since the matrix is 2*2, n = 2
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I have some problems with Binomial Formulars
My main problem is number 4.I dont really get how I should calculate the results of those equations.
(My English is bad so might’ve used the wrong words-)
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For q6 do middle term splitting 👍
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Is this correct?
Remainder is 75/(2x-5)
No
Where did I go wrong
Ohh
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can someone help me visualize this summation for matrix multiplication, i know how to do matrix multiplication but i cannot visualize this summation
and i think i am bad at reading summation notation in general
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you go over the row of A (from left to right) and the column of B (from top to bottom) and multiply the corresponding terms, and the result is the sum
there are plenty of visualizations of this around; here's one from Wikipedia/Wikimedia
so for example the red middle cell in the top row has value (a_{1,1} b_{1,2} + a_{1,2} b_{2,2})
Invariance
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i don't understand this
isnt this the same as writing
x^t = x ?
if i have Ax i get some vector b
if i trnspose Ax i get
x^tA^t = b^t
why it says they are equal?
oh because there is a third vector and it result in a 1 by 1 matrix . ok
When you transpose a product, the order reverses
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how to integrate this?
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I'm not too sure what I'm supposed to do here to show my work as my understanding of this is just put on the value that's on the x-axis.
write the functions that are in that domain
(-∞,3)
(2,3]
(3,6]
like in that format?
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What Shioshi wanted to say was that write the equation for the function illustrated in the graph in the respective domain
like this?
erm the form is correct but the equation aren't quiet correct
the second one y=2 is fine but other two aren't
how's this?
seems alright
but 1.5/3 could be simplified further
I am not quite sure about the y=0x+2 thing
I mean it is correct
But idk if it will be accepted as an answer or y=2 or both
mathematically it is correct
I'm still getting this error I'm a little confued because the privous question ^ was like this a lot simpler is it not the same format?
you're supposed to enter the whole thing not the intercept
(which all really aren't in the graph)
here they're demanding the intervals of the domain
but here domains are given and you have to enter the equation
ah
I see I'll give it a shot
1.5/3 can be simplified further
nice
Thank you, I need to learn to read better been at this for hours
nw
have a good night/evening/morning
you too
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now mention helpers here
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Help me out
I have asked my friends but no one is helping me
Help me pls pls pls pls
This
Everythin?
even a mod came to help you dude
Yeah maybe just do one and explain to me and ill do the others
Idk what to do i never took this in class ong
Do you know what end behavior is
No sorry
Okay
when did a mod come?
In the help forum
What is f x
A function of x
In 1 what happens to f(x) as x->-∞
It approaches -> ∞
Ohhhh yeahh
Mb i forgot
Oh positive
I knew it
I think i know what to do now for end behavior
Im gonna write smt and tell me if its true
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Yup
Lol
Ok i finished a
Now i need to do domain and range ( b, c)
What is domain and range
I think domain is x and range is y
Domain is all values for which a function has a 'definite' result
Range is the set of the results
Oh
So like
Bruh
This shit is hard
Can u help me @raw hawk
@raw hawk u there?
I figured smt out
Domain is left to right
And range is down to up
<@&286206848099549185> i need help
This is what i wrote so far
I hope its right
Now they want the domain and range
I figured smt out
Domain is left tor ight
And range is down to up
Bruh why is no one helping me
What did i do wrong 🥲
Bruh yall are mean
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part 2 please. i have no idea what to do
Open new channel
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e.g. "cube the inverse matrix"
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(16x² sin(y) Σ 1 dxdy)=1+2 coth(r) 12 00 M 127 Σ n=1 + 5 = 69
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It didn't mention that the building is 40m
It just said that it took 2 seconds to fall the last 40m
Meaning that it could have initial velocity
Use kinematic equation
Yeah but he didn't mention the height of the building
Meaning that the building could be 100m
And at the final 40m it took 2 seconds to fall
When you use Vi = 0 for these 40m you are saying that the ball is released at the 40m mark
Yeah
Use the formula
Yf = Yi + Vi * t + (1/2)a t^2
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hello everyone, I have this number sequence to study : u0 is in ]0,2[ and Un+1 = sqrt(2+Un*(-1)^n) I have to tell wether it converges or not and I can't find like I find that when n is even, it converges but when its odd it doesnt, pls help me
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hello everyone, I have this number sequence to study : u0 is in ]0,2[ and Un+1 = sqrt(2+Un*(-1)^n) I have to tell wether it converges or not and I can't find like I find that when n is even, it converges but when its odd it doesnt, pls help me
you mean
yes thx
I think it was supposed to be (0,2)
idk man
he used ] [ which is neither ( ) nor [ ]
ahk
idk if its same in english
This is bourbaki notation for the open interval
it's ( ) in english
ahk
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Did you find the first few terms of the sequence
In terms of u_0
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So you found that for n even the subsequence converges to 2 , and for n odd it doesnt converge to 2 right?
Yes
well you know that a sequence converges if and only if all of it s subsequences also converge to the same number
since you found 2 that dont, the main sequence can not converge
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why is it plotting 3 planes
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My quesiton is soemthing related to trig
i am
solving for section A_3
and have already foudn the areas for section A_1 and A_2
I am using a triangle approach but not sure how to strart solving for A_3
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Is it possible to make a function that is continuous at all rational numbers, and discontinuous at all irrational numbers?
no
There's probably a way to assign every number a value based on how close it is to a rational number with a small denominator
is there a way to prove this (or has it been proved)?
but maybe we'd always be able to find an irrational which gets a score of 0
and maybe the function is continuous there
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Find the no. of arrangements of the letters of the word EQUATIONS in such a way that no 2 vowels are together.
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how do I find the accumulation point of a complex set?
i.e. let's say I have something like $z_n = i^n, n = 1, 2, 3...;$
jv
how can I find all the accumulation points of said set?
Can you do it for the real sequence (-1)^n?
so, whenever n % 2 is 0 we get 1 and n % 2 is 1 we get -1, correct?
so... there are acummulation points in every point? lol
sorry I've never had an analysis class lol this is for intro to complex analysis
If by “every point” you mean both 1 and -1, then yes, both of those are accumulation points
Yep, there you go
you have subsequences that converge to each of those points
thank you, got it!
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if the limit of a function is a number divided by 0 is it DNE?
Depends (strictly speaking, the limit cannot literally be a number divided by 0, because that isn't defined, but I think I understand what you're asking)
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not necessarily, the condition for a limit to exist is when its neighborhood converges to the value of the limit
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can someone help with this question? I get the general idea of related rates but the relation between the height and radius is tripping me up
yes
I think I figured it out I ultimately got -2/3pi for the rate of change of the radius
but im not positive on that
that's right
okay have a good one
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what have you tried?
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well why not
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usually you want to do a little something to show, even just a little or people won't want to put in any effort if you haven't
I'll give you a hint though, try to combine the fractions in the numerator
make 3/x-3/c have the same denominator specifically, if that makes sense
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here it's not really a conjugate, but maybe similar kind of idea
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conjugate is like when you have 3+5sqrt(2) and the conjugate is 3-5sqrt(2)
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here we're just making like denominators to add fractions
just focus on 3/x - 3/c to have the same denominator, what do we need to do
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yeah I think I see what you're saying
yeah try that and show what you get and I'll help where it needs fixed as you go
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good you caught that you missed a piece, I'll let you cook
yeah perfect, keep going with it if you can
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yeah
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almost
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-(c-x) = -c+x = (x-c)
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wait I think you have a slight mistake there in the denominator
$$\frac{\frac{3(c-x)}{xc}}{x-c}$$
Merosity
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the top one, the denom in the numerator
cause the denominator you just made there was xc not x-c
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so back up here
you have xc in the denominator
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but here you lost the xc
cool cool
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nice ok
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so I would combine the denominators now, since dividing 3(c-x)/xc by (x-c) will put it in the denominator
$$\frac{3(c-x)}{xc(x-c)}$$
Merosity
that step make sense? we're nearly there
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nope no foil
that'd be for like multiplying not dividing
so how is c-x related to x-c? it's actually the negative of it
one way to see that is multiply -1 by (x-c) and see what you get
the point is once we have (x-c) in the numerator and denominator, you can cancel them out
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yeah distribute the -1
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yeah a useful trick you'll see this again so good to remember how that works
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is that supposed to be *(-1)?
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I had already typed it up if it's clear to see
so replacing (c-x) with (-1)(x-c) in the numerator
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