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naive fox
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difference between them are the same

celest harbor
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nvm ye ur right

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i was intergrating again in my calc

naive fox
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it is different because the second one is the wrong function. Notice that for the second one, you need to have $(4x+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}$ in the denominator and you will not have $\frac{1}{2}$

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naive fox
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this is for the image that you sent and deleted

celest harbor
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so i got $4 \sqrt{3}$, do i do anything since its $\frac{1}{9}\sqrt{3}$ above y=0?

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morphine_addiction

naive fox
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I don't think you need to do anything as the boundary is set to be $0<x<20$ or $1 < u < 9$ already

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celest harbor
weak quartz
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you need to subtract the area of the rectangle

celest harbor
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ye i got $\frac{16\sqrt{3}}{9}$ which is correct

elfin berryBOT
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morphine_addiction

celest harbor
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thank you for the help

naive fox
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oh yeah, I forgot about that

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sorry

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The figure shows a flagpole erected in a vertical plane. At point A, the mast is hinged to the vertical wall. At point B, the mast is connected by a cable to the wall at point C. The distance |AC| = 4 m and the distance |AB| = 3 m (where m stands for metres). By varying the length of the cable |BC|, the angle θ made by the mast with the horizontal can be adjusted. The relationship between cable length and time t is given by |BC| = l(t). Determine the relationship between velocity dl/dt by which the length of the cable |BC| changes and the angular velocity dθ/dt. Note: the figure is not drawn to scale and the angle θ is expressed in radians.

tender ibex
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i dont understand anything

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ok i got it

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still temple
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So I am meant to simplify [
S(t) = 19\6vt +4\dv[v]t-2\int_{-\infty}^t\6vt\dd t
]
where $\6vt = 55\6\cos{5t+44\degrees}$ and we assume the value of the integral at $t= - \infty$ is zero. Anyways, I did the following, where i am assuming the form $\6vt = A\6\cos{\omega t + \varphi}$:
\e{align*}{
19\6vt +4\dv[v]t-2\int_{-\infty}^t\6vt\dd t \Iff 19V + 4j\omega V - 2\4V{j\omega} &= V(19 +4j\omega +2j\omega) \ &=V(19+6j\omega) \ &= V(19+30j) \ &=35.5Ve^{57.7\degrees j}\ &= 35.5e^{35\degrees j}e^{57.7\degrees j} \ &=35.5e^{92.7\degrees j}
}
where $V$ is frequency domain representation of the sinusoid. I am not sure how to carry on with this now though?

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still temple
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oh wait

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,, \6vt = \RRR(Ve^{j\omega t})

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still temple
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im so lost

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wooden tartan
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lean wedge
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Ohh sorry

wooden tartan
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I didn't understand what I have to do to find the right answer

shadow thorn
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consisting of 3 black squares and 6 white ones

wooden tartan
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uhum

shadow thorn
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its the same as the other 3x3 squares at each corner

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look at the square at the third row and second colum

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if i move it to the top middle

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and repeat that pattern for the other 3x3 squares

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i get a new 5x5 square with does not change when rotated 90 degrees

wooden tartan
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You rotated the figure but it keep the same thing

shadow thorn
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one sec

wooden tartan
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ok

shadow thorn
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imagine moving the square

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squares

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you get a new pattern

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try calculating all the ways you can move around the squares

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also

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consider the other 2 black squares

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the one at the top

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and the other black one next to it at the bottom rigth corner of it

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after that

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consider adding black squares

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ye this is a tough one

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good luck

wooden tartan
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Ok

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I think I understood

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Thank you

shadow thorn
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just focus on this square

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because the 5x5 grid is this square copied 3 times and rotated

shadow thorn
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i thought you had to keep the same no. of black squares

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just try to figure out all the possible ways to configure that 3x3 square

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be careful about avoiding repetition

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the no. of combinations of black and white squares in a 3x3 grid is 2^9

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thats 512 so thats a lot

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because there was some repetition

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try to figure out where that comes from

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@wooden tartan got it

wooden tartan
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Hmm

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I think so

shadow thorn
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idk where the repetition comes from

wooden tartan
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I think the answer is 128

shadow thorn
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that would make sense

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maybe its because the patterns have to be unique

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like

shadow thorn
wooden tartan
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this one

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have 7 squares and each one can be black or white

shadow thorn
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hmm ya 2^7 = 128

wooden tartan
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yess

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And when you rotate it

shadow thorn
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oh yaaa

wooden tartan
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90 deg

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is always the same

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exactly

shadow thorn
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i see now

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ya

wooden tartan
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What do you think?

shadow thorn
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that has to be the answer yes

wooden tartan
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Nice

shadow thorn
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hope i helped a bit

wooden tartan
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That's it

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Thank you

shadow thorn
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you found the answer though

wooden tartan
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Have a great day

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low oriole
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low oriole
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why did they not set y=k and x=k

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only z=k

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Like they found that on the xy plane, z = k is the ellipse. They found this by setting z = k.

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They did that in this example too.

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z = k --> found ellipse.

They found the traces in the yz and xz plane by setting x = k and y = k too.

So why did they not do that in the first example?

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Ah I guess _ = k just indicates how it behaves on the third axis.

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setting it equal to 0 just shows how it acts on the immediate plane

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i see now.

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scenic peak
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hi, i'm learning about the likelihood function for regression. suppose we have a degree 50 polynomial which perfectly fits the data points and a degree 1 line which doesn't capture the curve of the data. am i right to think that the parameters for the degree 50 would have a higher likelihood than the parameters for the degree 1?

scenic peak
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the degree 50 polynomial is likely to overfit if the data points actually came from, say a degree 4 polynomial with noise added. what do people usually do to control the degree of the polynomial?

versed pagoda
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this broadly fits into model complexity

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if your model is too complex (has too many parameters) then its likely to overfit to data

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so typically you trade off degree with accuracy

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and then use a validation set

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to check for overfitting

ocean zenith
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@scenic peak can we dm please

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Im not spammer

scenic peak
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thanks

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muted kite
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hello

marsh citrusBOT
muted kite
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so i have a question about special relativity

wet holly
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it was invented by Special Ed in 1995

muted kite
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In special relativity, it is said that when an object is moving with a speed close to the speed of light an observer that is still with respect to said object measures its length as shorter than the object's length with respect to its frame of reference

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lets say i have the coordinates of Xa' and Xb' of such object with respect to its frame of reference

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its length is then L' = Xa' - Xb'

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The question is then: can i get the coordinates Xa and Xb in the frame of reference of an observer that is still with respect to the object by using the following formulas:

Xa = γ(Xa' - vt)
Xb = γ(Xb' - vt)

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because if i do, then L is equal to γL', which would mean that the length measured by a still observer is longer than the actual lenght of the object

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where L is = Xa - Xb

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i got it

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apparently i was looking at the problem the wrong way

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given the case that i have just explained

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S is moving with respect to S' with velocity v

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meaning that the length in S, which is moving, is bigger than the lenght in S' which is still

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meaning then that the lengths in the frame of reference that is moving are always bigger than the lenghts in the frame of reference that is still

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brisk totem
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Question 117 I have no idea how to solve this

lucid zenith
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do you know what King's rule is?

brisk totem
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No

lucid zenith
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it's a rule for definite integrals

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it states that $$\int_a^b f(x) dx = \int_a^b f(a+b-x) dx$$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

brisk totem
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I don’t think I can use that

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If I haven’t learned it they won’t put it in the quiz

lucid zenith
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that's literally the only way to solve this

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oh well you can derive this super easily

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it's just a u-substitution, u=a+b-x

brisk totem
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I’m not sure

lucid zenith
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kheerii

brisk totem
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Iyeah I did that part

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But idk what to do after

lucid zenith
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what did you get?

brisk totem
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I got

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$$\int^a_0 \frac{f(-x+a)dx}{f(-x+a)+f(x)}$$

lucid zenith
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the denominator will have a plus

brisk totem
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Pop

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Oops

lucid zenith
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also I think you meant integral from 0 to a

brisk totem
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Yeah it is

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Typo

lucid zenith
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sure that works

brisk totem
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Okay

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But then it says add it to I?

lucid zenith
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now since this is a definite integral the variable u doesn't hold any significance

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so you can change that to

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x

brisk totem
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Okay

lucid zenith
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indeed, and now as you said

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add this to the original integral

elfin berryBOT
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Nathan

brisk totem
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Okay

lucid zenith
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since the limits are the same the integrands will just be added

brisk totem
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Okay one sec

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$$\int^a_0 \frac{f(-x+a)+f(x)}{f(-x+a)+f(x)}dx$$

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Uh

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Okay

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Like that?

lucid zenith
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yes

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now you can combine the fractions

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since the denominators are the same

brisk totem
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They are?

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Oh

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Yeah

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Okay

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Now what @lucid zenith

lucid zenith
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the dx is supposed to be outside the fraction

brisk totem
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Yeah my bad

lucid zenith
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$$\int_0^a\frac{f(a-x)+f(x)}{f(a-x)+f(x)} dx = \int_0^a 1 dx$$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

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Nathan

brisk totem
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Oh

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Okay

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And then

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It’s gonna be $$x]^a_0$$

elfin berryBOT
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Nathan

brisk totem
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Which is a

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But that’s wrong

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The book says a/2

lucid zenith
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because you added the integral twice

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$2I=a\implies I=\frac{a}{2}$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

brisk totem
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Oh

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Fair enough

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Ok

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I had another quick question though

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Didn’t we abuse u sub when you let u be x again?

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u had a meaning of x-a

lucid zenith
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variable changes are valid in definite integrals only

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not in indefinite

brisk totem
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I don’t understand

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You said that after we u subbed you wanted to let u = x even though = x-a

lucid zenith
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not u=x

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it's more like you're transforming u to x

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$$\int_a^b f(u) du = \int_a^b f(x) dx$$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

lucid zenith
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would you agree with this statement?

brisk totem
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Well if u=x then yes

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But u doesn’t equal x is our situation

lucid zenith
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whatever our variable is, it doesn't matter

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what's what I'm trying to tell you

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you're integrating the same function within the same limits

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a definite integral is just a number

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the variable inside doesn't matter, so we can change it

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the only reason we had to change it is so that we could add the two integrals

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we could have just as easily changed the original integral into u and added them that way

brisk totem
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But x is its own variable

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You could say u=t=z=s that doesn’t matter

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But x is already used

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And u is literally defined as x-a

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We can’t just say u=x now

lucid zenith
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we are NOT saying u=x

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okay what if I tell you to transform both integrals to some other variable

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say y

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$\int_0^a \frac{f(x)}{f(a-x)+f(x)} dx = \int_0^a \frac{f(y)}{f(a-y)+f(y)} dy$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

brisk totem
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Okay sure

lucid zenith
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and $\int_0^a \frac{f(a-u)}{f(a-u)+f(u)} du = \int_0^a \frac{f(a-y)}{f(a-y)+f(y)} dy$

elfin berryBOT
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kheerii

lucid zenith
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now can we add them together?

brisk totem
lucid zenith
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that's the same as what I did

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I just reused x for convenience, since the variable really doesn't matter in a definite integral

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but I get why it confused you

brisk totem
lucid zenith
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we just add

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like we did before

brisk totem
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But the variables are different

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How do we add

lucid zenith
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we converted them both to y right?

brisk totem
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We converted the right one to y

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The left one is u

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y=x
u=a-x

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Mv they equal

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Nvm

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so how do we add them @lucid zenith

lucid zenith
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just with y instead of x

brisk totem
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How?

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I need help with lhopital

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celest harbor
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did i intergrate wrong?

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winter smelt
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how did you get u in the numerator?

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oh wait I see

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dx = 2u du

celest harbor
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ye

winter smelt
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wait

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when integrating 1/(2u+5)

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that doesn't give you ln(2u+5)

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it's 2/(2u+5) that integrates to ln(2u+5)

celest harbor
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celest harbor
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ye 10ln(9/7) is correct

winter smelt
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cool

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can anyone explain

high pine
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1/(1/x) is just x

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better question would be why does it happen

still temple
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ohh

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yeah

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I see

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to use Hopital

high pine
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yes

still temple
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damn

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this is so difficult

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you need to see how you can reform it

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so it's easier to use the rule

high pine
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Believe that is not, it might be because you see it for the first time

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It's very common "trick"

still temple
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let's hope so

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do you know what's wrong here?

high pine
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yes

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You cannot use l'Hospital when you have [1/0]

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inside the limit

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It should be 0/0 or inf/inf

still temple
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ohh I see

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so it's 0/0 then

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but what do you need to do then?

high pine
still temple
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no?

high pine
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When we plug x = 10 directly into the fraction we'd get 1/0

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log(10) = 1 (log with base 10)

still temple
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ohh

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yeah

high pine
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x-10 = 10 - 10 = 0

still temple
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and 1/0 doesn't exist

high pine
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It's 1/0, in such a case I'd recommend examining sided limits

high pine
high pine
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Example: 1/x^2 when x -> 0

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1/0 but the answer does exist and it would be inf

still temple
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  • inf or -inf depending on the side limit
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right?

high pine
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In this case both sided limits are equal

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and this is why the answer is inf

still temple
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oh

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yeah sorry

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I see

high pine
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(and in your case they're not and this is why limit DNE)

still temple
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can I ask one last question?

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how would I need to do this one

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you don't need to make it for me

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but like

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a quick analysis

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of what to do

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and what I can't do here

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and why

high pine
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mhm, surely l'Hospital wouldn't help

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maybe try diving by e^x?

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both the top and bottom

still temple
high pine
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since (e^x)' = e^x

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and (e^(-x))' = -e^(-x)

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so it would just flip signs that's all

still temple
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okay I get that

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and what I could try to do it dividing both top and bottom by e^x

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what would be the result of that?

high pine
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look, I'll apply it for the top

still temple
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okay

elfin berryBOT
still temple
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bottom is almost the same

high pine
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and it gives 1 - e^(-2x), right?

still temple
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e^(-2x)

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im still processing that

elfin berryBOT
still temple
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yes

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okay

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got it!

high pine
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do the same with the bottom part

still temple
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1 + e^(-2x)

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😉

high pine
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Now you have:

elfin berryBOT
still temple
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correct

high pine
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And notice it's not indeterminate anymore

still temple
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1 - e^-inf

1 + e^-inf

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and then you get

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-1?

high pine
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what's e^(-inf)

still temple
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ehm

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idk?

high pine
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Then expalin how did you get -1? 🙂

still temple
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I removed 1 in the upper and 1 in the lower bc they're the same? 😢

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and then it's -1

high pine
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It doesn't work that way.

still temple
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yeah

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I noticed

high pine
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Okay, first of all

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Do you know why we only now plug "inf"?

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And why we didn't do it at the beginning

still temple
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uhm

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no

high pine
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Generally we should start from this point, when you deal with a limit you always try to plug a number into it, directly

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and you see what you get

still temple
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what is e^inf

high pine
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e^inf is just inf, you are familiar with "e" number?

still temple
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i kinda forgot

high pine
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e equals about 2,72

still temple
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it was this special number

high pine
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therefore e > 1 and e^inf = inf

still temple
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okay

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got that

high pine
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then what's e^-inf

still temple
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  • inf
high pine
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or what's let's say 2^(-inf)? imagine calculating 2^-1, 2^-2, 2^-3, ..., 2^-10...

still temple
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minus inf

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okay

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so we would get

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huh

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oh no

high pine
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It's not -inf

still temple
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1/inf

high pine
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which is ...

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1 divided by REALLY HUGE number is near...

still temple
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inf^-1 ?

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ohhhh

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0

high pine
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Finally, yes haha

still temple
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sorry haha

high pine
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That's fine

still temple
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so e^-inf is 0

high pine
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yeah, every number greater than 1 raised to -inf is 0

still temple
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okay got that

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so for this limit

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we would get

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inf/inf

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inf + 0 / inf - 0

high pine
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1 - e^-inf

1 + e^-inf
knowing that e^(-inf) = 0
you have:
1 - 0

1 + 0

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= 1, right?

still temple
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yeah but

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e^inf

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was inf you said

high pine
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but here there is no e^x or e^inf anymore

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this is why we did division

winged harness
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As the exponentials go to zero the expression is 1/1

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= 1

high pine
still temple
still temple
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right?

high pine
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That's right

still temple
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okay

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so that's why we don't plug it

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we did the division then

high pine
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Yes, when you obtain an indeterminate form you are supposed to do some stuff to get a result

still temple
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and then it is 1

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the final answer

high pine
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Yeah

still temple
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okay

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damn

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that was a tough one

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ty for explaining!

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and for all ur help

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You're welcome.

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@knotty trellis why do you mean by automatically or manually? I just meant that if we want to find the radius we can just use google maps and take a screenshot and then draw straight lines to find the distance. Wdym by drawing circles on GeoGebra ?

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a question on proving linear independence of the dual basis:
let V be our vector space, B = {v_1, ... v_n} its basis, and f_i(v_j) = \delta_{i,j} for each basis vector (so that the f_i are our coordinate functions/dual basis elements)

say we have scalars a_i s.t.
a_1*f_1 + ... + a_n*f_n = 0

the standard argument is evaluating this above null functional on each v_i and noticing each a_i is 0. is there another way? why not evaluate on a generic v in V? does the standard argument imply something else?

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i tried using a generic v in V, say:

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$v = \sum\alpha_iv_i$

elfin berryBOT
vivid tusk
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and i got

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vivid tusk
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and im not sure if its possible to deduce a_i = 0 here

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slim spire
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there's probably a way but it's all linear with =0 so might as well do the component vi's

vivid tusk
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im more confused on how you can obtain "constant" values of a_i evaluating on specific vectors (basis here)

vivid tusk
# elfin berry **Biggs**

i thought of making n equations, each one evaluated on a different v_i, then summing with scalars as to make up an arbitrary v, but it leads me to this case too

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slim spire
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I think you'd need n different arbitrary ones to be able to conclude any 0's, so it'd be messy

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but like in a sense applying it to an arbitrary one lets you split it up into n equations because of linearity and =0

vivid tusk
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could you elaborate on how to split it into n different equations

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sounds like what i need

hushed egret
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the sum
a_1 f_1 + ... + a_n f_n
is an entire function V -> your field

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and saying that it is = 0 means that at every point in V you could evaluate the function at

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it will be 0

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so of course you can choose where to evaluate

vivid tusk
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because the value (of 0) is the same for everyone, whatever you get about the function for any choice of vector must be true for any other vector, so youre saying i might as well make a smart choice by choosing the basis vectors, on which the function is easy to evaluate on

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is what youre saying

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Which is better, Coq or Lean?

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would this be a good example?

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sand kindle
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(though no example can prove the statement)

sonic palm
sand kindle
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if you want to disprove it, you can show that it is false for some f

sonic palm
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and chose my f as a counter example

sand kindle
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you're saying the limit exists for f?

sonic palm
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yes

sand kindle
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what's the limit?

sonic palm
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0

sand kindle
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but it becomes 2 infinitely many times

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f(0) = f (pi)= f(2 pi) = ... = f(k pi) = 2

sonic palm
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i mean the limit technically never reaches 2

proud ice
sonic palm
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yea

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so the removable discontinuity wouldnt matter no?

proud ice
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no

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proud ice
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I think the given statement is false.

proud ice
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so you think the limit converges?

sonic palm
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yes

proud ice
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and what do you think it converges to?

sonic palm
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this is what i did

proud ice
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What do you mean by "$\lim_{x\to\infty} \cos x+1$ is bounded between 0 and 2" Did you mean that just $\cos x+1$ is bounded between 0 and 2?

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sonic palm
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yes

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yes

proud ice
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Okay yeah, $\cos x +1$ is indeed bounded between 0 and 2. But what do you mean by "but never reaching 0 and 2"?

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sonic palm
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because if we take the limit of cos(x)+1, it approches 2 but is not two. although cos(0)+1 = 2 but the limit approches 2

proud ice
sonic palm
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x is approaching infinity

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how tf do I show that its true

proud ice
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$\lim_{x\to\infty} \cos x+1$ does not exist

elfin berryBOT
sonic palm
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But then that doesn’t guarantee f(cosx+1) is dne

proud ice
sonic palm
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Because fx could be 0 for all x except at 2

proud ice
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Are you familiar with the formal definition of a limit?

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the epsilon-delta definition?

sonic palm
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Yes

proud ice
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Okay, so try proving your assertion using epsilon-delta definition of a limit to infinity

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this is what i did

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south smelt
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What have you tried?

plush saffron
south smelt
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And that gives you?

plush saffron
south smelt
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Okay, but you got $\dv{y}{x} = \frac{2x^2+2x+3}{x^4+2x^3+3x^2+2x+2}$ ?

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ℑμΤ𝛄𝛗θ

south smelt
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or keep the dx on the other side, whichever you prefer

plush saffron
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but how do i integrate ()dx ?

south smelt
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partial fractions most likely, but it looks like a mess

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Apparently you're supposed to notice that (1+x^2) is a factor of the denominator

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I really don't know how you'd figure that out, but here you go

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I'm not quite sure. Has this been given to you by a teacher? There's no way they just want you to trial and error until you find the right factor right?

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the polynomial doesn't even have real roots

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for college

south smelt
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Is the exam ongoing?

plush saffron
south smelt
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Okay good

plush saffron
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i am practicing

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pyqs

south smelt
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I see I see

plush saffron
south smelt
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I don't live in a country with that schooling system so I wouldn't know

plush saffron
south smelt
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I don't know what 12th grade corresponds to

plush saffron
south smelt
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See where I live we don't even do calc in highschool shrugs

south smelt
# elfin berry **ℑμΤ𝛄𝛗θ**

So, if you want to, I suggest you ping @ helpers, and someone else might be able to explain the logic behind finding that factor of (1+x^2) in the denominator

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Because I sure as hell can't see it

plush saffron
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plain crescent
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it shows the steps tho

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substitube x with -1 and equate it to -pi/4 and get the C, then substitute the x with 0 and add the value of C and you should end up with pi/2

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How do you get E(X)?

I understand 1., A was 4 - sqrt(2), but I have no idea how to get E(X)|
the answer is E(x) = 1.97 but how do i get there

narrow bear
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ping if answering please

cloud field
narrow bear
cloud field
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ok good

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but this is a continuous distribution

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so instead of sum it should be?

narrow bear
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I don't know, I assumed it was taking the integral from its lower bound to upper bound but it wasn't that

cloud field
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indeed you take the integral

narrow bear
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Well when I did that I got 0.5 and the answer was 1.97

cloud field
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you got your steps?

narrow bear
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its on paper and its a bit messy so i used an online one and they also got 0.5

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and this is answer key

cloud field
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second thing, you need to add it with the integral of the x(x-1) part

narrow bear
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if I add it with the above integral it's 0.5 too since both have to add up to 1 to be continous

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but what do ytou mean multiply with an x

cloud field
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E(X) = sum of xf(x)

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but since this is continuous distribution, it will be the integral of xf(x)

narrow bear
cloud field
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the important thing is you need to use integrals correct?

narrow bear
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yes

cloud field
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ok what should you be integrating

narrow bear
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in my head this is the integration i should be doing

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but doing this gets me 0.5 so idk what to change about it

cloud field
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you need to multiply an extra x

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because E(X) has x * f(x) correct?

narrow bear
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like this?

cloud field
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yes

narrow bear
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that gets me this which still isnt the answer (1.97)

cloud field
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ok you got that

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but thats not the entire distribution

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you still have an x-1 right?

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f(x) = x-1 for 1 <= x <= 2

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you do the same thing with it

narrow bear
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Oh ok I understand now thanks

cloud field
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then you add the two numbers together

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and it will be your E(X)

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Greetings, im very confused about question 13, please help me to start

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still temple
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1

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Where will they collide?

brave spire
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well

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thats what u gotta find

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first consider the scene at t=0

still temple
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ok

brave spire
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lemme draw it real quick

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the ellipse is the bullet btw

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clearly after t=0, the ball will be acted by gravity

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gaining a=-g

still temple
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ok perfect

brave spire
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now we have to find the t such that

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the time taken is same

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mb i messed up there

still temple
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Ok'so let the ball reach h'

brave spire
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exactly

still temple
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they we shoot the bullet?

brave spire
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so it takes

brave spire
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we need to shoot it before that

brave spire
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find that using 2nd equation of motion

still temple
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but the bullet also goes down due to gravity yes?

brave spire
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well it shouldnt be too tough

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the premise remains the same

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instead of considering h'

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we consider h' + (d/(horizontal speed of bullet))*(vertical speed of bullet)

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this should make sense

still temple
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Why exactly?

brave spire
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because d/horizontal speed is the time it needs to reach the ball horizontally

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but in that time it will travel down as well

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so the distance it travels down is the vertical speed * time

still temple
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ok ok

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i was doing that haha

brave spire
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btw u do know how to determine the horizontal speed yes? given its a vector of magnitude v

still temple
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yes just d/t

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no acc

brave spire
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eh?

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oh its not a vector v

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nvm ur right ignore what i was saying

still temple
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ok

brave spire
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so ur distance for ball (d_b) = h' + d*(-gt)/v

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$d_b = h' - \frac{dgt}{v}$

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hopefully that isn't too confusing

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(-gt = vertical speed, horizontal speed is given = v, h' because it needs to obviously travel that, and d is the horizontal distance for the bullent)

elfin berryBOT
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rak³en

still temple
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db is the distance for the ball to cover?

brave spire
brave spire
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nvm not working

still temple
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no

brave spire
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what no

still temple
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how can we use linear formulae

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its moving under gravity no

brave spire
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its initial speed is 0

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v=u+at

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as for d_b

still temple
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so the bullet moves down -1/2g(d/v)^2

brave spire
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we shall apply second equation of motion as well

brave spire
still temple
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please check again

brave spire
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with a=-g

still temple
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Yes i calculated that for the bullet moving vertically down

fluid hinge
still temple
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that what i meant, sorry

fluid hinge
brave spire
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d/v?

fluid hinge
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yea

still temple
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yes

fluid hinge
brave spire
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eh sure ur right

still temple
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vertically downward wrt to ground, yes

brave spire
fluid hinge
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whts db?

brave spire
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distance to be covered by the ball

still temple
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db is the distance for the call to cover

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ok heres another' problem opencry

fluid hinge
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why h'??

brave spire
elfin berryBOT
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rak³en

brave spire
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missed the h there

still temple
brave spire
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didnt i mention that alr?

still temple
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Idk

brave spire
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bruh

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shit i gtg

fluid hinge
still temple
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This has to do something with relative velocity

fluid hinge
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i think

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yea

still temple
still temple
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They made the assumption that it collides at height h'

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which should be impossible

fluid hinge
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who said it collides at h'??

still temple
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The solution

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Sorry my english is not very good

fluid hinge
still temple
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ill send

fluid hinge
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ok

still temple
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see if you can understand

fluid hinge
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hmm

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wait a min ill text you after finding the solution

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i think im close

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@still temple bruh the didnt mention anywhere tht d is small

still temple
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Yes so we assume bullet moves down

fluid hinge
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yes if we do tht then im getting the answer u sent - (d/v)^2

still temple
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please send your solution

fluid hinge
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the time take for the ball to reach the distance - time taken by bullet to reach the distance

fluid hinge
still temple
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The question is what time after the ball is dropped, gun should be fired

fluid hinge
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wait a min pls

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@still temple sorry took me a while

still temple
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ok

fluid hinge
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im sending wait

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how do i rotate?

still temple
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,rotate

elfin berryBOT
fluid hinge
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should i take a better pic?

still temple
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h-(h'+(1/2)(g(d/v)²)) right

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That is h-h'-1/2gd²/v²

fluid hinge
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wait

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no

still temple
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$h-h'-\frac{1}{2} g \frac{d^{2}}{v^{2}}$

fluid hinge
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@still temple dw i can understand the message

still temple
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I give up.

zinc condor
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\frac takes two arguments BTW

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$\frac{x}{y}$

elfin berryBOT
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otheol

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GinNBread

fluid hinge
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why?

still temple
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Nvm you are correct

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It's +

fluid hinge
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hmm

still temple
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Can u explain the last para?

fluid hinge
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yea

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so the time taken to cover the distance where the ball and bullet hit is this solution

still temple
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Ohhh

still temple
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The wait time + time taken bullet to reach the point = time taken for the ball to reach the point

still temple
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Yes, thank you

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Also

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Can you please send a clear picture

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I want to report this

fluid hinge
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sure

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1min

still temple
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No problem

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Thank you so much, again

fluid hinge
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dont see the diagram i scribbled it

still temple
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You're from India?

fluid hinge
fluid hinge
still temple
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Classmate notebooks

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Hi

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still temple
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Hello ali

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Do you need help

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@still temple so done right?

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Yessir, thank you

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still temple
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Yessir.

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Done already 👍

still temple
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We on the grind

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haha me too

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goodluck

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i was air13

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Let me check

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im oci now

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for real

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last

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any proof?

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my word

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k

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im not revealing my identity here

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Bhaiya do you solve doubts

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Thank you bhaiya, any terms and conditions?

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Like no stupid doubts or sum

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stark trail
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I dont mean to be specific here

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privacy reasons

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I respect that.

fluid hinge
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hmm

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dont tell if u dont want to

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@still temple i think u can close this channel

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Okay

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.close

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I need help

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/

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tag helpers im heading out so cant help rn

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Ok

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i need to find where $A\cup B=\varnothing$ but why is ㄱ wrong

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I mean, if a b and c are variables, they could technically be 0 1 or 2?

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Weird assumption to make though

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I'd normally assume the first answer is right

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Could you translate the last two?

polar forum
limber marsh
polar forum
limber marsh
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Then all is fine in the world

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You normally don't treat a b and c as variables

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I was confused over why you were saying it was wrong

polar forum
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@limber marsh but cant $A\cap B\neq \varnothing$

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R4F43L1006

limber marsh
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Yes

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Imma go use Google translate
Brb

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Yep, the first answer is right
They're disjoint

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the question says to choose all where $A\cap B=\varnothing$

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The last ones also right

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If Google is translating correctly

polar forum
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yeah but the answer say ㄱ,ㄹ

limber marsh
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Sorry, what exactly are you trying to ask?

polar forum
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so i can treat a,b,c as not variaples

limber marsh
polar forum
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but theres a case a, b, c are varibles

limber marsh
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Except unless they say they are
They're not
They're just letters

polar forum
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ah okay 👍

limber marsh
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I realize algebra brainwashed us all into thinking math is all numbers and letters only exist to be variables
But nah, letters can exist as just letters

And with set theory they most likely are just letters unless otherwise implied

polar forum
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so then it will say 'for variables $a,\ b,\c$' if they are?

limber marsh
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If they're doing variable things with them
They're variables, otherwise they're just letters

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kk thanks

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still temple
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why can both sides be subtracted by 2n

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is it just a rule?

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for divisibility

vernal forge
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so $n=\pm1$

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artemetra

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$2n+1=nk$
$1=nk-2n=n(k-2)$

$\therefore 1\mid n$

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ah i see

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polar forum
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why?

still temple
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i saw that you were typing mb

polar forum
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no nvm 🙂

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Given tetrahedron ABCD with 3AD+2AC+AB ≤ 18a and volume of V=6a^3. What is the distance between point A and plane (BCD)?
I figured out from this 6a^3 = (S_BCD * h_A)/3, i could infer this h_A = (18a^3)/(S_BCD) and i'm stuck in here at this point.

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visual storm
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I needed to find the derivative. is this the right answer?

still temple
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Whats tg

quaint elm
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tangent

still temple
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Tanx?

visual storm
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tangent x

heady lark
twilit grove
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what happened to the denominator for the first term?

heady lark
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we can use the derivative formula for division

visual storm
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this?

heady lark
heady lark
heady lark
visual storm
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from my book

heady lark
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k

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substute the values

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when you substuting

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be careful

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as their is a sqrt

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we have to take it as power 1/2

twilit grove
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she already did that in her answer

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@visual storm I think you're missing the denominator in your first term

visual storm
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wait i will check

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aa

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i got (x^2+1)^2 as denominator

twilit grove
visual storm
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so I can shorten the one in the numerator?

whole thorn
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visual storm
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in numerator we have 3 (x^2+1)
and in denominator we have 2
so we need to delete one from numerator or we cant?

twilit grove
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you can if you want, but then you'll have two fractions

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$\frac{x^2 + 1}{(x^2 + 1)^2} = \frac{1}{x^2 + 1}$. you didn't keep the factor in the denominator of the first term

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cwatson

visual storm
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lost a little bit

whole thorn
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you can check on desmos

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define f then plot f' and your answer

visual storm
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what is desmos