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proper sleet
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sum of arithmetic and geometric series both have formulas where few terms need calculated

severe island
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okay but what series is that lmao

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if there's a pattern then i can do something yes

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i don't see any pattern tbh

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that's not arithmetic or geometric

proper sleet
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one that is given on the test

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the hypothetical big set on the test

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for the symmetrical set on the flashcard there is no need to see a pattern because the mean and median can be calculated and equated

severe island
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my overarching question was how would i get the mean

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if they defined a sequence that would generate like 100s of those

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others would find the median then say that's the mean because they realize it's symmetric (maybe?)

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but i end up doing sum crazy calculus lol

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anyway

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i think i spent too much time overthinking one trivial detail lol

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thanks for the help

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feral forum
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I need help urgently

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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

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summer trench
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can you just stop posting ur question miltiple times in multiple channels and abusing helpers ping

feral forum
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I need help 😭

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I’m also new to the server

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So I didn’t know my bad

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pinging them multiple times wont help instead it can end up in situations like u being muted or something

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check !help

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proper zodiac
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I'm going to close your old channel, please just wait patiently in this channel for someone to help you.

feral forum
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Ok

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Thanks

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We’re u guys bots

summer trench
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no

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proper zodiac
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please dont abuse the ping

celest wyvern
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bro dont know what patience is

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marsh citrusBOT
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feral forum
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2

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celest wyvern
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okay if u have some written work send a pic and i could hint/guide u

feral forum
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I just need to know the working out and I’m good to go

celest wyvern
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ofc u will be lol

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for congurency we will have to show at least a pair of sides to be equal

feral forum
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K

celest wyvern
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how tho

feral forum
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Wdym

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Ik about the congruence letters

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And all that stuff

celest wyvern
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oh okay

feral forum
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I just want to know how fhm and dfp are congruent

celest wyvern
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well thats what u will be using

feral forum
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If it helps I’ll send u an image of the triangles

celest wyvern
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so which test would u use by showing just one pair of sides to be equal tho

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celest wyvern
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ok i want u to find out which pair of sides are equal and why that is first of all

feral forum
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K

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HN and MF

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If u mean the whole octagon

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It can be

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HG and CD

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EF and BA

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AH and FG

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And so on

celest wyvern
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broooo

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okay first

celest wyvern
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do u realize why this is true

feral forum
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?

celest wyvern
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just showing 3 angles as equal isnt enough since they could just be scaled versions of each other

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one pair of sides MUST be equal for congurency

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of two triangles

feral forum
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K

celest wyvern
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as such we are going to find that one side we can show equal

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in these two triangles

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which we are supposed to show congurency in

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now try to do so

feral forum
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Umm

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HF and FD

celest wyvern
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yep

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and why

feral forum
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Gimme a sec

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I get why they make sense to be equal

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But I don’t know how to mathematically describe it

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I found out just using the shape of the regular octagon

celest wyvern
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these two triangles

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can be shown to be congurent

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with side angle side

feral forum
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Wait a minute

celest wyvern
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since the octagon is regular

feral forum
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So is fgh the same as fhm?

celest wyvern
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no

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are the triangles i marked not clear

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😓

feral forum
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Is the triangle I shaded fhm

celest wyvern
feral forum
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Is the shaded fhm

celest wyvern
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im not understanding u sorry

feral forum
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It’s alright

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Is the answer SAs

celest wyvern
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yea SAS can be used to show THESE triangles are equal not fhm

feral forum
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Ok

celest wyvern
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from here for the required triangles fhm and dfp

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a pair of sides can clearly seen to be equal

feral forum
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So can you tell me what the full working out would be for this question to get full mark

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celest wyvern
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yea

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now we can look for angles to show equal

feral forum
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So just to clarify

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Are both those triangles the same

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As in the image

celest wyvern
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nope

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again, if u have an argument for why they would be equal share it

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since i myself dont know everything

feral forum
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Umm

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So

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I get why it’s not equal now

celest wyvern
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lets go angle hunting now

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hope u with me

feral forum
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K

celest wyvern
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do u know what angle dfh is

feral forum
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Isn’t the entire triangle 180 degrees

celest wyvern
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no no

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the angle

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angle dfh

feral forum
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Oh so the angle of F

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I just remembered the angle is usually referring to the middle one my bad

celest wyvern
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this angle

feral forum
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90

celest wyvern
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woah

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u did thhis part already

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how is it so

feral forum
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Idk

celest wyvern
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bro

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u dont get marks for guessing

feral forum
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I see it’s an isocoloses triangle

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DF and Hf are equal right?

celest wyvern
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yea

feral forum
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So the other 2 sides are 45 degrees

celest wyvern
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y

feral forum
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It all adds up to 180

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And it’s isocolose

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And F is 90

celest wyvern
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a very rough diagram

feral forum
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K

celest wyvern
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there are 3 right angles

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i removed the octagon

feral forum
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K

celest wyvern
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why is f 90 tho

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also dont say f its confusing, its dfh

feral forum
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K

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Idk

celest wyvern
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do u know the angle of fgh

feral forum
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No

celest wyvern
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ok ok

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the total internal angle of an octagon

feral forum
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Can you tell me the answer and then we can go backwards from it

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I think it will help me understand

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It’s also 8th grade btw

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Australia

celest wyvern
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theres no "answer"

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the "answer" is given

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those two are equal

feral forum
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It’s what it says

celest wyvern
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total internal angle of a polygon

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180 for triangle

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what for a quadrilateral

feral forum
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I think I’ll try figure out on my own and i gotta go

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Thanks for all the help

celest wyvern
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k

feral forum
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I appreciate it a lot

celest wyvern
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np gl

feral forum
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Thanks

celest wyvern
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umm also

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u know how to close right

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.close

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.close

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cedar briar
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.open

broken hound
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it's true ?

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broken hound
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how 3

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?

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xD

quaint elm
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compare the factors of each side

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sterile shoal
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Hello

marsh citrusBOT
sterile shoal
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so

hidden plaza
sterile shoal
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We have to set up a equasion

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so from what i see f(0)=30 f(0)=30 f(10)=100 f(10)=100

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for both

hidden plaza
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well one of them is a straight line

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Should be easy to find the equation

sterile shoal
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yes so liniar and exponential

hidden plaza
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You can assume the equations are in the form $$f_1(x) = mx + b, f_2(x) = ka^x$$

elfin berryBOT
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$Pure$

hidden plaza
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m,b,k,a to be determined

sterile shoal
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so for f2 k would be the starting value no?

hidden plaza
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Mhm

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Which is?

sterile shoal
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okey so i did it for the f1 i think f(10)=10m+30

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f2 would be f(10)=30* a^10 maybe?

hidden plaza
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Yeah

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That’s just true but what is f(10)

sterile shoal
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100

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100=10m+30 and then m=7

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and a is 1,27

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thanks .close

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undone summit
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first get area of whole circle

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second area of sector by formula

still temple
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4436.5 mam

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Mum

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Mm

undone summit
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what's this

still temple
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Area of circle

undone summit
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ok

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good

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now area if sector

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*of

still temple
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Is it 844

undone summit
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now subtract the area

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to get

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required

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area

still temple
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3593.5

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I got it wrong

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Now the question has changed

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I got it

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.close

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wait nvm

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.close

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A packaging company that manufactures Kraft cardboard boxes wants to reduce associated costs
to raw materials in the manufacture of a line of products with low circulation, but with orders
large quantities (more than 1000 units per order); one of these products is composed
of self-assembling die-cut boxes, with the dimensions presented in the figure at the end of the
document and whose volume is $1008𝑐𝑚^3$

Since it is a die-cut box, there is waste between the cardstock sheet and the template.
the box at the time of manufacturing, so a new template is desired that meets the
following conditions:

  1. The constructed boxes must have a lid and must have a volume of $1000 ± 10𝑐𝑚^3$.
  2. The template should reduce the amount of material used to manufacture the box
  3. The template should reduce the amount of waste generated in the die-cutting process

(reference image)

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ElPanaArturo

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I really don't know how to start, I would like to know or at least have a guide on how to start with this exercise :c

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harsh rain
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any help i have no idea what to do because sin has x^2

harsh rain
karmic inlet
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I dont think this is enough info to help out, im not in calculus but what is goal here? Get derivitive?

harsh rain
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find the limit?

karmic inlet
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oh so what Y tends to or something

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2pi = period here

harsh rain
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dont mean to be rude but i am trying to get some help here so i am not really here to explain to you what this is

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this is a help channel

stark trail
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Striker, do you know Lhopitals rule?

harsh rain
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i know it but cant use it here

stark trail
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Also, is this sin^2(x) or sin(x^2)

stark trail
harsh rain
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sin(x^2)

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it is weird to explain

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havent been taught that at school but i have learned it at the extra classes i am taking in order to get good results for my exams

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this exams determine to what uni i go

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just no l'hopital rules

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?

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thank you for the help guys appreciate it

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polar ledge
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this tends to what

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polar ledge
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can i do like this

main idol
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main idol
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no

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you're overcomplicating it

proper zodiac
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you are thinking of $\lim_{x\to 0}\frac{\sin(x)}{x} = 1$

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proper zodiac
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but your x is not going to 0

polar ledge
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ohh

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so its just sin2/4 or not

proper zodiac
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yes

polar ledge
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oh thank you

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my suggestion is to multiply the right side by 3/3 to have same numerator, then consider at what values denominators are changing signs and think about the couple of different intervals independently a little, it should be clear what happens

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tough abyss
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here we're solving an equation using fourier transform and some dirac delta integral proprities

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i would like to know why we added that identity?

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i've never heard of a step function

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then they devided them i don't know why

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tough abyss
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this one i don't know why they insert it

main idol
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they use it later probably

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yea to simplify the delta function

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follow the delta

tough abyss
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we could have done that without that identity

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or we did that for the K0 >0 condition ?

main idol
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if you can simplify their calculations, you should show your professor

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alright

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thank you sm

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Need help with 8, 9, 10

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For 8 it seems like I did it right but for 9 and 10 I’m not sure

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@ helpers

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neat pewter
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i dont understnad what the red boxes mean ik that converge means its tending towards something for eg the first box tells us the function f(t) = e^at is converging to something at s-a > 0 then not sure what Re stuf mean

glass silo
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If you have s and a being complex, then the real part of s is greater than the real part of a (for the first red box)

neat pewter
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glass silo
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If you break s and a into the real and imaginary parts, then it's similar to how you'd show convergence in the purely real case

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in particular, the imaginary bits basically trace out the unit circle so those are bounded, and you're left only considering what happens to the real part

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kekw damn it autodelete

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@glass silo

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inland bramble
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Hi

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How to get factors of this. Sir directly wrote it as (t+1/2)² in the next step

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Anyone free to help me?🥲

hasty ruin
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complete the square

inland bramble
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I am dumb

inland bramble
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I doubt we should do that. cause in next step it's 1/2 itself

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There's an identity or something. I just couldn't recall it

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@hasty ruin bro you there? =3

inland bramble
ocean ruin
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Hey

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Real quick

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So yk the form of a binomial squared

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(a+b)²

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@inland bramble you here?

ocean ruin
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So you can notice that we have t²+2(½)(t)+(½)²

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Which makes it (t+½)²

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@inland bramble got it?

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If you have any more questions please do @ mention me

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ocean ruin
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No problem 🙂

inland bramble
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So like now I am suppode to do .close? I am new here

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I guess yeah lemme try

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Yup it worked

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By sending the message "yup it worked" you reopened it 😂

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sick sedge
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im not sure what else it can be besides DNE

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wise jackal
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have you considered the domain being x >= -1?

sick sedge
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hmm

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but can you explain why it works

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have you drawn it?

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may help to see it

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isnt it just a linear line

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yeah, but the restriction is what's key here

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it begins at its maximum at x = -1

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absolute extrema can be found at interval endpoints is what he's trying to get at.

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domain of the function is [-1, inf)

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thinking about it logically, we know its a constantly decreasing function, so we can make a conclusion from that where as x grows smaller, the function grows larger. and following that thought, we might say "f(x) will be largest at the smallest x in its domain."

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i just woke up and my brain not work

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wouldn it be x <= 5

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why graph no make sense

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nvm im dumb

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im talking about y

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x >= -1 is given as the domain of f(x), where f(x) = y.

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ok yeah i get it now

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how to solve sec x = 2 csc x

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(with calculator)

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where'd theta come from

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tan(x) sorry

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no lol

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whats sec

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in terms of sin and cos

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1/cos

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right

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whats csc

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1/sin

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right

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so 2/sin in this case

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so we have 1/cos=2/sin

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yeah

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so what is tan = to

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I got 2tan = 1

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is tan sin/cos or cos/sin

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sin/cos

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right

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sin/cos = 2

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When proving that A ' (x) = f(x), do we say that A(a) = 0 is a 'boundary condition' or just a 'condition' ?

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Your question lacks context

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Ah

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I would just call it a condition
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I have no idea what you mean

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Nvm. our teacher just said that we need to call it a boundary condition for whatever reason.

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But why do we actually draw the A(x): "A(x) gives area under graph of f between a and x"

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When we want to comment on the orange area?

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What

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can someone explain how the answer at the bottom is recieved

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hey

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u0 = 2; v0 = 1; y0 = [u0;v0]; % Initial conditions
% Setup the ODE solver, these are default tolerances:
options=odeset('RelTol',1e-3,'AbsTol',1e-6);
tspan=[0 75];                 % Time span
solver=@ode45;                % Chose the appropriate ODE solver
% Solve the equations:
[t yout]=solver(@fun1,tspan,y0,options,parameters);
u=yout(:,1);  v=yout(:,2);    % more intuitive variables
% Plotting results: time series
figure(1); plot(t,[u v],'o-'); %axis([0 20 0 1.25*max([u;v])])
legend('Prey','Preditor');
title('Time Series'); xlabel('Time (non-dimensional)'); 
ylabel('Population (non-dimensional)');

% Phase plane:
f=figure(2); f.Position=[200 200 600 300];
subplot(1,2,1); plot(u,v,'b-','LineWidth',2); 
title('Phase Plane');xlabel('Prey (non-dimensional)');
ylabel('Preditor (non-dimensional)'); axis equal; 
%
hold on
ur=get(gca,'XLim');             % Get x and y ranges off previous plot
vr=get(gca,'YLim');
number=15;                      % Number of subdivisions for plot
[um vm]=meshgrid(linspace(ur(1),ur(2),number),...
                              linspace(vr(1),vr(2),number));
% du/dt and dv/dt (right hand sides) evaluated at (xm,ym):
dudt=um * (1 - 0.2*um - vm); 
dvdt=-vm*(1 - um);
quiver(um,vm,dudt,dvdt,'k')
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subplot(1,2,2); plot(u,v,'b-','LineWidth',2); 
title('Phase Plane');xlabel('Prey (non-dimensional)');
ylabel('Preditor (non-dimensional)'); axis equal; 
%
hold on
ur=get(gca,'XLim');             % Get x and y ranges off previous plot
vr=get(gca,'YLim');
number=15;                      % Number of subdivisions for plot
[um vm]=meshgrid(linspace(ur(1),ur(2),number),...
                              linspace(vr(1),vr(2),number));
% du/dt and dv/dt (right hand sides) evaluated at (xm,ym):
dudt=um * (1 - 0.2*um - vm); 
dvdt=-vm*(1 - um);
scale1=1./sqrt(dudt.^2+dvdt.^2);
quiver(um,vm,scale1.*dudt,scale1.*dvdt,'k')
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  % Set up the output data structure (assures it is a column):
  ydot=zeros(size(y)); 
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  ydot(1)=y(1)*(1-0.2*y(1)-y(2));
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anyone know why my vector field isn't following my phase plane for the whole thing?

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Hey I'm trying to find what this distribution is, given a pdf

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the pdf is as follows:

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it's continuous btw

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riemann

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It's an indicator function

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so if x is in (0,1) then it returns 1 and if not 0

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basically it bounds the function between 0 and 1

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That's what made me think that it could be a beta distribution, cause not a lot of other distributions are bounded between 0 and 1 like that

main idol
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did you plot it in desmos for different theta

upbeat harness
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Yeah, I got this kind of curve

main idol
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beta distribution has two parameters, so you can try to do some transformation of theta to two params or vice versa take two parameters from beta and make them relate to each other

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in this formulation for beta distribution, alpha and beta are independent, but maybe make one equal to theta, and solve for the other

upbeat harness
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Yeah I was thinking that alpha could be like 1 or something like that

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Is the Beta function symmetric like that?

main idol
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the formula for beta distribution is above, so try playing around with different parameters in desmos

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I get really stuck trying to do the algebra, I just have no idea what to do with $(2x-x^2)^{1-\theta}$

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I mean I can factor out an $x^{1-\theta}$

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But after that I can seem to cancel it out with anything

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Maybe I need a change of variables?

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Okay wait I don't even need to think about this

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What the question is really asking is

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And I can just use mgfs for that

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Guys I have a question, why is the sum of all integers till n-1 equal $^nC_2$

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diaas_(yt)

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Is it a coincidence or is there an argument

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let me make a spreadsheet

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k(k+1)/2

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but yea

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Right yeah

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Yeah but I'm talking about n-1 objects

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Error_5506

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in n(n+1)/2, replace n with (n-1). You end up with n(n-1)/2

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diaas_(yt)

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it's a running tally

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I'm asking why that's true

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the intutive way is thinking about n people in a room and everyone shakes hands with everyone else and count how many handshakes occured

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start with 1+2. then add 3. then add 4...

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look at the spreadsheet

severe whale
sweet pawn
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the intutive way is thinking about n people in a room and everyone shakes hands with everyone else and count how many handshakes occured

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the intutive way is thinking about n people in a room and everyone shakes hands with everyone else and count how many handshakes occured

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OK Ill think about this later thanks guys

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I have to sketch the following set of numbers

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I think I was able to find |z|=0,5

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hint: $\frac{1}{z}=4\bar z$

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since $\bar zz=|z|^2=\frac{1}{4}$

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ok i am not sure how this should help me:(

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i am just really consued by this notation. idk what does the argument mean

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This is just e^-1 right?

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Hii

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Can someone help me with this?

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im a little confused

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with

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wot

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like do I need to find the vertex?

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i guess you could

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did you try any of them

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do you understand what standard form tells you

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ax^2+bx+c

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I thought it's factored form

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well the first one is in standard form

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Second one too

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how do you know

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if it's standard or which

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Well it’s in the form of ax^2+bx+c

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Vertex is a(x-h)^2+k

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oh

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Factored is a(x-r)(x-s)

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So just look at it ig

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But you understand how to graph it right

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i know how to do factored is it like the same way?

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Factored is not the same

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Factored gives you the zeros right

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Standard and vertex don’t

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Do you know the graph of x^2

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oh

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x: -2,-1,0,1,2
y: 4,1,0,1,4

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Have you seen that

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On a table of values or sum

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for values of x and y

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the teacher tells us to use tov for standard form

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what’s tov

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oh table of values

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So u understand how to use it yea?

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How the c impacts the x value

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Could somebody please check this proof? I don't think it's well articulated even if it might be correct so feel free to point out how that could be better as well

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Ok I've been informed that I can't use an infinite partition. Now I'm wondering if there is any way to make this approach work?

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Yo what's up

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There is a way to make the approach of bounding the upper sums below arbitrary epsilon positive work

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Likely it will have to do with rationals, so we are going to Let $\varepsilon>0$ and then we can always find a natural number $q$ such that $\frac{1}{2q}<\varepsilon$

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Austin

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right?

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unrelated to p/q in reduced form from the problem statement btw

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Are you saying that uou're trying to bound the output 1/q below some epsilon?

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Or am I misunderstanding?

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We are trying to bound the upper sums above by any epsilon positive

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likely it will be nice to work with a rational upper bound

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so since we can always find a 1/2q < epsilon

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if we bound our upper sums by this 1/2q

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we are also done

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this q, is unrelated to our functions output as of rn

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we can use a different letter if it is confusing

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So you're saying $U_Pf = \frac{1}{2q} < \epsilon$ for any $q$?

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not for any q

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No

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that's not what I am saying

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I am saying

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Let eps>0

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there exists (going to use a new letter instead of q)

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z

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such that

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1/2z < epsilon

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and now we want to form a partition, such that the upper sum is < 1/2z and hence < epsilon

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Ok I see what you're saying

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Sorry that took me a while lol

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no worries

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and the reason for the 2

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we can make like

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two different upper sum partitions, that collectively sum to an entire upper sum

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if you can bound each of those upper sums independently by 1/2z

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then over all they are bounded by 2*1/2z = 1/z < epsilon

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I introduced the 2 too early actually

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Mind if we just restart @carmine terrace

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?

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Yeah fs

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Let $\varepsilon>0$ there exists $z\in \mathbb{N}$ such that $\frac{1}{z}<\varepsilon$. Now our goal is to make two seperate upper sum partitions, each independently bounded by $\frac{1}{2z}$, that in combination sum to a complete upper sum of our interval, and hence are bounded by $\frac{1}{2z}+\frac{1}{2z}=\frac{1}{z}<\varepsilon$

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Austin

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that's our overall goal. lmk if that makes sense atleast

carmine terrace
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Yeah I understand

stark trail
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Okay, so I'm not sure how much help you want, I can walk you through it, or just give a hint here now

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what would you prefer

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I'll just take the hint

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okay

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there are finitely many rationals in [0,1] of the form p/k with k<=2q

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so those could form one of your seperated upper sum partitions

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and then of course you'd have to account for the other rationals in the other upper sum partition

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Ok great

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Thank you for your help

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Why is this wrong

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If Z=2x-y

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then why is the polar conversion not 2rcos(theta)-rsin(theta)

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How do you derive concavity using f' being neg, pos, or zero

floral linden
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if from the graph you see that f' is increasing (so f' goes from -ve to +ve) then f'' > 0

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You use the second derivative to determine concavity

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In a similar way to how the first derivative can tell you whether the curve is increasing or decreasing based on the zeros of f'

coral lagoon
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yeah i was triyng to do it lie that but i kept messing up, i also tried drawing but that didnt help. 1 sec

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so its going from negative to zero to negative

so it goes from concave up to concave down?

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for a to b

cloud iron
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At a certain point between a and b it does, but that doesn't necessarily have to do with whether f is positive or negative

coral lagoon
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im using f' though not f

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The points where f' changes sign are the critical points of f

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Or the maximums and minimums

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In order to determine the inflection points (where f changes between concave up or down) you need to find the second derivative f'' and identify its zeros

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but the points where f' is increasing give you the points where f'' > 0

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you just have to use the graph

cloud iron
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My bad, reading is difficult

coral lagoon
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ik how to find cc up and down using a function, im just confsued on how u get that from f and f' with a graph

you said that when f' is increasing, f'' > 0 but when f = 0 and f' = negative, its positive (i can see the answer) im confused on how it got positive when it seems lie itd be cc down

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so it's becoming more positive?

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i.e. it is increasing

coral lagoon
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yes

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so for b

its becoming less and less positive, so going negative?

floral linden
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yep, so f' is decreasing

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so f'' < 0

coral lagoon
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so c would be negative, e would be positive

what about d?

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it looks like 0 but that isnt correct

floral linden
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f' is negative to the left of D and +ve to the right of it

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so what is happening to f'?

coral lagoon
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i thin i udnerstand it

its becoming less and less negative, so becoming more and more positive, then it goes positive

so itd have to be positive?

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yep

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aight than u

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Please don't occupy multiple help channels.

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you ignored like two rules at once

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you already have a channel, and you have to wait to ping helpers

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my bad

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make the ages of the women xyz, and the priests age p. what eqns can you set up for the first two statements

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xyz= 2450

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and x+y+z= 2p

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sure, now one more for the last statement

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oh wait i misread that part

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oh

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what is the las

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statement though?

native frigate
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Im pretty sure you have to make some more assumptions here

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"you are the oldest person here"

long sage
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I dont get that part

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how can I use that info

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to find their ages

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i think the bishop has to be like 26 or something

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hmmmmm

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k

native frigate
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wait this is such a silly problem

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ohh i get it

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women 7, 14, 25, priest 23, bishop is somewhere between 26 and 35 (inclusive)

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its just like a little logic problem - you have to note the prime factors of 2450 are 2, 5, 5, 7, 7

long sage
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but how did you find priest age?

native frigate
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add the womens age, then divide by 2

long sage
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but I got 4 possible ages for the women

native frigate
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what other possibility do you have that isnt mine?

uneven pier
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Why can't they be 5,10 and 49 or 7, 7 and 50?

long sage
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10, 35 and 49

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14, 35 and 5

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10, 35 and 7

native frigate
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otherwise it would surely be impossible for him to know the womens age?

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oh im stupid, this is not the intended solution path

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he knows the priests age

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ok my b lemme get the right answer

uneven pier
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Now I'm interested in this logic puzzle.

native frigate
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the fact that the priest still doesnt know after being told the sum is twice his age limits it a LOT

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which means two sets of womens ages add to the same thing

long sage
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oh

native frigate
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seems impossible? but im not thinking well rn

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I think there is no one true solution with so little information.

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???

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Dude what kind of question is this ive never seen smth like it

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IK

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it took me 1 hour to even understand what the question is understanding

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but thats the problem

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Let me see

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this is the 3rd time asking this question in server and no one could really solve it

ocean ruin
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Not enough info

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thats the same thing I told my teacher but she said there is enough

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and thats what I don't get

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well as far as i know

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the priest HAS to be at least 40-70 years of age

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in order for this to work

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but as far as the ages go

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i’m not so sure

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How to prove that any non square number put in a radical is irrational?

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*positive real numbers

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got a test back with a percentage and with the amount of points lost, how would i calculate total points in exam

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points lost / (1-percent)

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i got a decimal when doing so

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is that normal?

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whats the percent and whats the amount of points lost

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74% and 47 lost

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~180.77 points

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% give to you is probably rounded

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ohhhhhhhh

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okay thank you so much for the help

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nw

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why does this graph face the other direction as if its being reflected across the y axis even tho theres no -x in the exponent

iron meadow
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because 0.8 < 1, as you raise it to a larger and larger exponent it becomes smaller and smaller

burnt abyss
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for big x values the y values get smaller and smaller

iron meadow
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0.8 = 4/5 so it's essentially:

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y = 10 (5/4)^(-x)

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like a 5/4 base with a negative exponent if you think about flipping the 4/5

lethal bridge
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is the 10(a)^x where a is changing the direction the graph is facing?

iron meadow
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sorry, i don't understand the question?

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like for example

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if we hav e the form

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y = 10(a)^x

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right

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is a the quantity that makes the graph change direction

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or is it 10

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a

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"change direction" is a weird way to describe it

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all the 10 does is stretch it vertically

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no matter what else happens

lethal bridge
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so then

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a is the one changing the graph

burnt abyss
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no one is changing the graph

lethal bridge
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a is

iron meadow
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if a > 1 then it's gonna increse without bound if you keep multiplying it with itself

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if a < 1 it'll get smaller and smaller

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if you have -x exponent instead of x then all it does is a becomes the reciprocal of itself so it just changes whether it's greater or less than 1

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so um

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if

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0<a<1

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It’s the same as y axis reflection

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?

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@iron meadow

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y = a^x i guess will be a reflection of y = (1/a)^x over the y axis because you can rewrite y = (1/a)^x = a^(-x) if thats what you mean

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so its the same as f(-x)

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??

iron meadow
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I don't know how i can clarify this any more, that's about all i have to say

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a < 1 and a > 0 just have different behaviors in this type of function, that's about all there is to it

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and a= 1 is just a flat line

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I don’t think you understand what I am saying

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I’m saying if a is a value between

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0 and 1

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Like 0.8

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That has the same effect as f(-x)???

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if you have a function f(x) = 2^x, then the function g(x) = (1/2)^x is a reflection of f(x) about the y-axis

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so g(x) = f(-x)

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not really, just that the way you said it was confusing

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I was so confused for a sec

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like about the image?

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Hi can somone please help me?

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@broken flicker which question?

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@still temple all of them my teacher just slapped me with this for homework and I don't understand a thing

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@broken flicker @broken flicker

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$a\times(a+2)+c(c-2)-2\times a\times c$

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shotgun

sour flame
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$a-c=7$

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shotgun

sour flame
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hi

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i need help

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i dont know how to do it

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im stuck

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i simplified the expression first and got

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a² + 2a + c² - 2c - 2ac

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i moved the -2c behind the 2a and took +2a-2c out and replaced it with 7

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so now i have a² + 7 + c² - 2ac

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and since a-c=7 then 7+a=c

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it also works for exponents i believe

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so i replaced a²+7 with c²

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then i cot c²+c² - 2ac

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add the c² together and 2c² -2ac

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now i dont know what to do

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What do you have to do with this

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Oh find value

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