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unborn echo
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thank you for all the help

wind wadi
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np

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Hello! I have a problem with a math exercise.

The problem says: "find the existance field of this function"

y = arccos[e^(2sinx-1)] with 0 ≤ x ≤ 2π

bright hedge
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the solution is:
[0 ≤ x ≤ π/6 V 5/6π ≤ x ≤ 2π]

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I begin putting the existance condition of arccos.

I put:

-1 ≤ e^(2sinx-1) ≤ 1

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but I dunno how to proceed

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distant peak
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you know how to solve this

bright hedge
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okk

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so with "exp" you only refer to the exponential.

So I have to write:

2sin(x) - 1 ≤ 1

And then solve it

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I try

bright hedge
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there's something else again

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it's greater or equal to 1

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(2sin(x) -1) ≥ 1

distant peak
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what you just wrote is wrong af

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exp is not a number, you cant say exp < 1
exp is a function

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and what I mean is exp(2sin(x)-1) cant be negative nor equal to 0

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you didnt study exponential function ?

bright hedge
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in my country we don't write "exp"

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so I misunderstood

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The "e" is called "natural base", but

f(x) = a^x is "exponential function"

f(x) = e^x is "exponential function with Nepero's e base"

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noble crescent
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Can someone tell me where I went I wrong. I’m supposed to figure out the whether system is inconsistent or dependent if it doesn’t have a single ordered pair.

noble crescent
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I hope it’s neat enough for you to read, I did a lot of erasing 🙃

late geode
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your -36 turned into 36

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as you were subbing in x=3

noble crescent
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uhhhh embarrassing

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pearl zealot
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Ayo

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pearl zealot
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I need help with an eqaution

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Because im tired af and braindead rn

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2-1/4x²=1/4x² how do i solve for x

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Pls help

wind wadi
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do you mean (1/4)x^2 or 1/(4x^2)

pearl zealot
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What you mena

wind wadi
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$\frac{1}{4} x^2$

pearl zealot
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Just normal 1/4x²

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wind wadi
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or $\frac{1}{4x^2}$

pearl zealot
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Yea

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pearl zealot
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The first

pearl zealot
wind wadi
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$2 - \frac{1}{4} x^2 = \frac{1}{4} x^2$

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wind wadi
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try bringing the x terms to one side

pearl zealot
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How do i do that is the question

wind wadi
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by adding

pearl zealot
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11th Class maths is exhausting man

wind wadi
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add (1/4)x^2 to both sides

pearl zealot
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yea then i get?

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The left one disappears

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and on the right side what do i get?

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x²/2?

wind wadi
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yes

pearl zealot
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But how

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Im confused

wind wadi
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1/4 + 1/4 = 2/4 = 1/2

pearl zealot
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1/4+1/4 is 1/2

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Yea

wind wadi
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same thing with (1/4) x^2 + (1/4) x^2

pearl zealot
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and x² +x² is

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2x² isnt it

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I dont understand where i get the x²/2 from

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Why the 2 is under the x² now

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Its not like i divide them yk

wind wadi
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okay so just by factoring you get
$$\frac{1}{4}x^2 + \frac{1}{4} x^2 = x^2 \qty(\frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{4}) = x^2 \cdot \frac{1}{2} = \frac{x^2}{2}$$

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pearl zealot
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But why does the 1/4 goes behind the x now

wind wadi
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wdym

ripe helm
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Ohh

pearl zealot
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Nvm i see

ripe helm
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ik what u mean

pearl zealot
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1/2*x² is the same thing as what you have written

wind wadi
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yes

ripe helm
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Yup

pearl zealot
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So it doesnt matter where it stands

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ight

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and so i get x²/2

wind wadi
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right

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$\frac{x^2}{2} = 2$

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pearl zealot
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Because?

wind wadi
pearl zealot
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Oh wait i see

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Nvm

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Tf bro im too tried

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tired

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Yea okay

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Thats all no?

ripe helm
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Ur not done

pearl zealot
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Wait

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Am i not

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?

ripe helm
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Well you haven’t solved for x yet

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It’s still squared

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And it’s still being divided by 2

pearl zealot
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So i do multiply with 2

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To get the x² alone

ripe helm
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Yes

pearl zealot
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and then i square them

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x=2

ripe helm
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Square root

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Yes

pearl zealot
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Ye

ripe helm
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Ur right

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And that’s it

bright jay
pearl zealot
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Yea and -2

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Ik

ripe helm
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Oh right

pearl zealot
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But idk how to call the x with the 2 sticks

bright jay
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The x with two sticks?

wind wadi
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lmao

pearl zealot
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IxI

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This

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Yk

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The x with the sticks lmao

ripe helm
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Absolute value?

pearl zealot
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Idk bro im not from america or britain

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lmao

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So i had to set them equal

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2 eqautions

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And now i need to get the point where they cross each other yk

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And now i have x

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and i just set it in in one of them right=

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?

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Doenst really matter wich one no?

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Yea

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lilac siren
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Why is the derivative of 1/A, which I'll write as [1/A]' = -[A]' / A² ?

lilac siren
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where A is any function

mystic minnow
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1/A = (A)^-1
apply power rule and chain rule

lilac siren
lilac siren
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when seeking [A^-1]'

mystic minnow
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[x^n]' = nx^(n-1)

lilac siren
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although it's any function, does this still apply?

mystic minnow
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yes, if you also use chain rule

lilac siren
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I've only used this principle for polynomials, kk thx

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reef edge
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i need help

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reef edge
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(x^k)^-3(x^5)=1/x^13

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oops

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sorry i didnt realize it was only 10

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mb

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remote breach
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why does b not include the x

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remote breach
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like why isnt b (p-2)x

echo bough
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usually the form is

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ax²+bx+c

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if you replace a by 1

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b by (p-2) and c by 1

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what do you get?

remote breach
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oh okay

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yeah b = (p-2)

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that makes sense

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rancid lodge
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Hi, can the rational number $\frac{1}{4}$ be constructed as a finite sum of $\pm \frac{1}{p_i}$ where every $p_i$ is prime? (The same prime numbers can be used multiple times)

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rancid lodge
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I suspect the answer to be no, but I can't prove this

stoic saddle
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the denominator of any sum of such prime unit fractions will be squarefree i think

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you are looking at fractions of the form $\sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{c_i}{p_i}$ where $p_1 < p_2 < \dots < p_n$ are primes and $c_i \in \bZ$

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stoic saddle
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the denominator of this fraction will be $p_1p_2 \dots p_n$, not divisible by 4 no matter what

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An experiment that was carried out 100 times resulted in some measured values of a certain quantity. How would you go about presenting the experimental mean value (both result and accuracy, preferably in terms of confidence interval)

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Studying scientific writing and came upon a situation like this and I cant wrap my head around what to do

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How does cos^2theta turn to 1 + cos2theta?

high pine
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use 2nd form to get yours

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and notice that they've divided constant by 2, since 1 + cos2theta = 2cos^2theta

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aka 50 becomes 25

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oh ok got it thank you!

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Why is | x |^2 = x•x

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Where x is a vector in R^n

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Nevermind

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What is the difference between a biconditional and an equivalence? I'm not sure of getting the nuance.

hazy lion
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theres a cool answer on MSO

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jan Niku

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jan Niku

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jan Niku

hazy lion
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idk if thats super helpful

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either way i think they imply each other right

pure vector
# hazy lion idk if thats super helpful

To be honest, I do get the equivlaence, it's the biconditional which I'm not 100% sure of gettng. Like does the biconditional say that statemetns have the same truth values?

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and if they do,t hen then are equivalent?

hazy lion
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idk i dont wanna say now since im wondering if theres some larger thing im missing lol

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which may get more to your question than i could

pure vector
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so youre not sure mmmh

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im not sure i know enough to get to the root of your question

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but i think your question could lead you to something meaningful

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so i dont want to give you some nonsense answer

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you should seek out people smarter than me KEK

pure vector
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Thanks for the help still though

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I understand there is an easier way to find determinants, but I have to use this one. My answer is wrong however. Right answer is -28. Where is my mistake?

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the answer is supposed to be this

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I’m not sure where you get the -2 leading coefficient, and bracket of (x+4) from

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—I think I went wrong with factoring the -2x^2 -12x -16 and that messed it all up?

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OH

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i looked it over sm and never noticed that that helps sm thank youuuuuuuuuuuu

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Consider points A(2, −3, 4), B(0, 1, 2), and C(−1, 2, 0). a. Find the area of parallelogram ABCD with adjacent sides AB→ and AC→ . b. Find the area of triangle ABC. c. Find the distance from point B to line AC.

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Can somebody help me understand how is a bicondtional different from an equivalece?

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Close your ticket 😠

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hey quick question

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strong stag
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pq-formula?

spring briar
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so on the 5th line he replaced -5x with -8x + 3x. i see how he got the the -8 and 3 through the 2x^2 and -12 but why did he replace the -5x

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like what does the -5x have to do with it since it was the only variable not used in getting that answer

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ohhhhh

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so they used those 2 to find the -5x ok i see my bad

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Need help with this one

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still temple
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stuck here , thanks

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please don't ping moderators for mathematics help.

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dry nest
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going by the graph

still temple
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I think @dry nest

dry nest
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yes

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and it is said the graph continues the same way

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so like a line

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and for 10 donations, you expect 60

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what would you expect for 60 donations by linearity

still temple
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whats linearity?

dry nest
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linearity is the property of being linear, so like a line

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a line has constant rate of change

still temple
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going up by 30 every time? @dry nest

dry nest
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so, when number of donations goes from 0 to 10, expected value goes from 0 to 60

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so if we increase donations by 10 again, to 20, what would expected value be

dry nest
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yea so it goes from 60 to 120

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easiest way to think about this is, when donations increase by 1, expected value increases by 6

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so, to calculate expected value for 60 donations, what do you think you should do

dry nest
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yes

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nice

still temple
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thanks for the help by asking me questions helps me learn it instead of u doing it for me appriciate it @dry nest

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clear plume
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are these two expressions given in absolute value equivalent to eachother? i) I t - 1 I = -10 ii) I t + 10 I = 1. I'm supposed to write an expression where t is exactly 1 unit away from -10

clear plume
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sorry wrote ii) wrong, fixed

lean flame
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Let's solve:

|t-1|=-10

t-1=-10 <=> t=-9
Or t-1=10 <=> t=11

|t+10|=1

t+10=1 <=> t=-9
t+10=-1 <=> -11

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So no they are not equivalent?

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Also for your question (ii) is correct

clear plume
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so only the second one shows that t is 1 unit away from -10?

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Yes

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oooh because in the first one t is 11, and that's not 1 unit directly from -10?

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but when solvin the second one we find that t is -9 and -11, but the first one is wrong cause solvin it makes t -9 and 11

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can anyone confirm that the formula to know the number of digits of a given number n is
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how did you come up with that formula

ivory finch
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the questions is to basically make a small formula with the floor function to determine the amount of digits of an integer n

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if you take a positive integer abcdef

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abcdef/10^6 = 0,abcdef

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so floor (n) = 0

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and i guess -1 for negative integers

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but like i see many flaws with it

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since every number q greater than k also verifies floor(n/10^q)=0 despite not beeing the number of digits

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so i guess we have to specify k is the smallest integer to verifie it

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$[\log_{10}(n)]$ is what you're looking for

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Is this true or false? I think it's true as it definitely is without transposing, but I'm not sure if it is after the transpose.

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Same worry for this question, I know its true if not transposed, but I can't wrap my head around what happens in the case of a non-square matrix

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Just in case its not clear, N() is the null space and R() is the rank

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<@&286206848099549185>

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why does the ln(3) not turn into 0 in the y'

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and why do we skip product rule

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is he just skipping product rule bc he knows ln(3) is a constant?

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Yes

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Since ln(3) is a constant there is only one term with a variable which means you dont need to use the product rule

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And as such the ln(3) won't disappear as it is a constant to the variable

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got it

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if it was 3x-4

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the -4 would disappear by the time we reach y'

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why did the ln(3) not at least disappear and go on to be cancelled?

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The ln(3) did get cancelled out though?

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no yeah i know that but

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why did it reach the point of being cancelled

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and not turn into a 0 when he reached y'

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because from what i recall in derivative rules

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ln(3) would be a constant here

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Ah okay I just misread your question. Constants dont go to zero if they are attached to a variable. When you derive 5x^2, the 5 doesnt go to 0

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ohhhhh

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i see it now

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now if it was ln(3) + log blah blah

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then ln(3) would go to 0

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that makes sense tysm

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"a triangular sail is 9m taller than it is wide. The area is 56 square meters. Find the height and base of the sail"

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okay so

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t(w+9)+w= something
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what does t represent?

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ah, forget that! so
h=9+b
a=1/2(bh)

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you're probably overthinking it, just plug h=9+b into A=1/2(bh) and solve for b

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like so: A=1/2(b)(9+b). and since A=56 you can solve for the only unknown, b

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so solve using quadratic formula? distribute 1/2, multiply both sides... no that can't be right. that's way too much for a triangle

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solve for b

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Is there an easy way to do this?

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If only it was 512 instead

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xdd

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have you tried anything?

long pollen
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Yes

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I made them all into 8 powers

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this doesn't work because getting rid of the exponentials means applying log_8 to both sides of the equation, and log(a+b+c) is not the same as log(a)+log(b)+log(c)

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Whaaaa

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Are u sure

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yup

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Fuck

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i mean, if it did work, you would just be left with -4=-4 which doesn't really help you lol

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;_;

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Im so stupid

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let me try my hand at this, give me a moment

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group terms with x and y
do some factorisation

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Ah

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Gotcah

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yeah, try to make one of the exponentials look the same as another exponential

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Thanks ramonovvvv

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np :3

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Question says to calculate tan v, this is a right triangle. Ill show my math.

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to use tan I need the adjatent so I used 3^2 + x^2 = sqrt=73^2

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which ended up being x^2 = 64 thus x=8

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and to get tan v I need to use the inverted since I want the angle, so I divide opposit with adjatent

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Yeah

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im getting 20.6

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is that the tan v ?

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What’s the opposite?

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3 accoring to the image above

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And the adjacent?

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I got 8

hidden plaza
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So 3/8

slender comet
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wait wtf

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ok so 0,375, which is what my friend got.

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do I not use inverted tan?

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You use inverse tan when you want to know the angle

slender comet
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well the question does say calculate the tan v, doesnt say angle, I just assumed v= angle in this case

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$\tan v = 3/8 \implies v = \arctan{\frac{3}{8}}$

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aaah

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slender comet
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got it, correct

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so if it did want the angle it would be 20,6 in this case

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Yes

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that makes sense, thank you very much sir 😄

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$\operatorname {sinh}(x)={\frac {{{\rm {e}}}^{{x}}-{{\rm {e}}}^{{-x}}}2}$

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$\operatorname {cosh}(x)={\frac {{{\rm {e}}}^{x}+{{\rm {e}}}^{{-x}}}2}$

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where does it come from?

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i mean why this expression

hushed egret
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odd and even parts of the exponential?

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solutions to y'' = y?

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-isin(ix) and cos(ix)?

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$\sin(x) = \frac{e^{ix} - e^{-ix}}{2i}$

hushed egret
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many reasons i guess

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rbit ✨

still temple
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then you have

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you can write decompose any function into its odd and even parts

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-i*sinh(ix) = sin(x)

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hum is there a condition that need to satisfy f or it's really any kind of function?

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i mean

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do you see any condition in that equation

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okay i guess f(-x) needs to be defined when f(x) is

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but

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otherwise no

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i guess some conditions on the domain

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still temple
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but its an easy task to prove this decomposition

gray shale
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ok so ch(x) + sh(x) = e^x?

still temple
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yeah

hushed egret
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ch and sh thonk

gray shale
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it means cosh and sinh when you're lazy

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x)

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if i remember a unity hyperbolic or something like that verify the equation x^2 - y^2 = 1

hushed egret
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,w isin(ix)

hushed egret
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,w -isinh(ix)

hushed egret
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i can never remember the sign on that identity

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yes

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,w cosh^2(x) - sinh^2(x)

hushed egret
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theyre like

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the area sweeped out

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by a "sector" of the hyperbola

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iirc

gray shale
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ok i see easily that it verify this equation but with just the equation x^2 - y^2 = 1
how do you solve that and find x = e^x +.... and the same for y

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cosh and sinh arent the only parametrisation which satisfy that

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notably you can also choose sec and tan

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,w sec^2(x) - tan^2(x)

hushed egret
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and also 1/2 (t + t^-1) and 1/2 (t - t^-1)

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,w (1/2 (t + t^-1))^2 - (1/2 (t - t^-1))^2

hushed egret
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actually you can put any function in place of t

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and itll work

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sec and tan are just another example of this where you put e^ix instead

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hum

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Hello! I'm struggling a bit with solving a simple substitution task. The equation I have to solve is as follows: -4x^2 = -32.84x^2 + 49. What I'm struggling with is factorising the polynomial. I'm able to do it with easy terms but I don't understand how I'm supposed to find the factors of the one I'm left with. I'd appreciate some tips 🙂

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Do you know how to solve quadratics?

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Could you give me an example? I'm not a native english speaking person so I'm not sure if I'm thinking about the same thing

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It’s not easy. I mean most people would be able to see this and immediately think of the factors. Photo maths method is probably harder than the normal one.

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With big numbers like this it’s probably better to just plug things into the formula imo

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I see. I didn't really think of using the formula honestly, i'll try it thank you

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Okay so I tried it with the formula but honstely it still seems unsolvable without a calculator

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Is this right? And how should I continue solving this?
The answer should be - 14

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you haven't calculated an angle

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I'd say in this case it's easier to just expand brackets

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instead of De Moivre's

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look

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$$=(3-4i)^2=9-24i-16=-7-24i$$

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And that's all? I didn't think it's that simple

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Thanks

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Why it's better to expand? I'd say the angle doesn't look good, because it's arctan(-1/2)

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in some cases (especially when exponents are higher) we use De Moivre's

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Generally, how can i find the angle in radians when it is in the form of cos(8/sqrt(5)) for example?

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what you did is formula for cos(φ) and sin(φ)

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basically cos(φ) = a/|z| and sin(φ) = b/|z|

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but it's easier to convert them to the tangent (just use tan = sin/cos)

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you should rewrite it as cos(φ) = 2/sqrt(5) and sin(φ) = 1/sqrt(5), what you did is incorrect btw

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I hope im not bothering too much, but how would we do the expression when the nubers are in polar form?

high pine
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you mean how do we convert polar form into algebraic?

fleet sierra
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Nope. How do we add two numbers in polar form. Or in other words how should I continue my answer

high pine
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thing is you should try once again because your solution is wrong so far (angle)

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we usually don't add complex numbers in polar form since it's inconvenient (especially if angles aren't same)

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De Moivre's formula lets us remove exponents, then we can just calculate trig expression in order to get value of a whole expression

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Thank you hype

high pine
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here angle is arctan(-1/2)

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$$(\sqrt{5})^4 \cdot \Big(\cos \Big(4 \arctan \Big(-\frac{1}{2}\Big)\Big) +i \sin \Big(4 \arctan \Big(-\frac{1}{2}\Big)\Big)\Big)$$

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it isn't that easy as you can see

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test

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I don’t understand surds or algebra can someone help me

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what don't you understand

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well I’ve tried to learn surds but it just doesn’t make much sense to me. And algebra I don’t get the -0 numbers and the division there’s more but I don’t know how to explain it

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ur question is?

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can someone help me understand surds and algebra more bc I’m stumped

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what is a surds

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And read your textbooks and practice them

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just call it roots

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How would one go on about solving this without L'hopital rule?

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hm u can try e^ln everything

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This is the logarithm

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like

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wont that just be e^ln(x) = x?

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so wont it just return the whole thing back

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ye

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but

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with that ln u can do some splitting etc

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just like magic-

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kinda like how sometimes u multiply the whole eq by 3

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its the same eq but helps u solve it easier

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how can i evaluate the sum $\sum_{k=1}^{n}\left\lfloor \log _{b}k\right\rfloor$

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임도현

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i was thinking of using double summation in this case, such as $\sum_{k=1}^{n}\sum_{j=1}^{\log_{b}k}1$

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임도현

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but not sure whether its right or not and even if its correct how to evaluate

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I would suggest to decompose your sum using the powers of $b$

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black_couscous

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Try to compute the sum for $n = b^{m}$

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black_couscous

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The rest will follow

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uhm

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sorry but could you elaborate it more?

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im not really getting it

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Okay

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$\sum{k=1}^{b^{m}}\left\lfloor \log {b}k\right\rfloor = \sum{k=1}^{m}k(b^{k}-b^{k-1}) $

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can you check it whether i did it correct or not?

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thanks owo..

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Consider $x \longmapsto \underset{k=1}{\overset{b^{m}}{\sum}}x^{k}$, derivate it and evaluate in $b$

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black_couscous

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uhmmmm

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wdym by derivate it

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It's a function that you can derivate

fathom solstice
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what is derivate?

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Like f'

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oh wait so i have to use calculus for this

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Yes

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but isnt that just $\sum_{k=1}^{b^m} kx^{k-1}$

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e^3

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Ur welcome

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I honestly don't know how you're supposed to realize this but it's easy to solve if you set x = e^y

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Aka x = e^lnx but that looks ugly

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hello! i have another question to an exercise i got, which is:

Find a counterexample that shows that the following statement does not apply in general:
Let M, M1, M2 be nonempty sets so that.
M1 ⊂ M, M2 ⊂ M, M1 ∩ M2 = ∅
Then also applies
M1 ∪ M2 = M.
Also give an example for which the statement holds. Connect M1, M2 as well as their complements with the help of set operations in such a way that thereby
M is obtained.

It is confusing 'cause the numbers of M1 are also in M or would it have to be M ⊂ M1 so that the statement applies :0

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how many 6 digits numbers are there which contains three 2s and two 5s?

still temple
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leading zeros allowed?

marble kiln
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nope

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have you tried calculating all the ways you can distribute the 2s on the 6 spots and then multiply that by the ways you can distribute the 5s on the remaining 3 spots?

marble kiln
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yeah but i dont get the right answer

still temple
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have you got 60 ways? and then times 8 for the remaining digits and then minus the ways having a leading digit

marble kiln
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so 8*6!/(3!*2!) - 5!/(3!2!)

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470 yeah

still temple
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also is it exactly that many digits or at least?

marble kiln
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in the question is says contains three 2s and two 5s

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so i guess it is exactly

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did u get the same answer?

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yes i got 470

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The final answer supposed to be R but I don’t know why and this is what i got

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Nevermind i got it

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im struggling on this

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i know how to do basic logs but idk how to simplify this

crystal wraith
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You start from the inside.

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Also, notice how you can rewrite sqrt(5) as 5^(1/2)

still temple
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ohh

still temple
crystal wraith
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uh what?

still temple
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im a bit idiotic

crystal wraith
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$\log_2{(\log_5{5^{\frac{1}{2}}})}$

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What the hell am I doing here?

crystal wraith
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Solve what's inside the brackets first.

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Forget the rest for a bit.

raven olive
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Is texit fixed?

crystal wraith
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Did you not see how I just used it?

still temple
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$\log_5{5^{\frac{1}{2}}} = 5^{5^{\frac{1}{5}}}$

elfin berryBOT
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InfiniteAxis

still temple
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oh wow

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i did it correctly

crystal wraith
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What no, that's wrong.

still temple
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i did the syntax correctly

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im surprised about that

crystal wraith
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But does that matter if you're doing the math wrong?

still temple
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no, but its still a minor accomplishment

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😄

crystal wraith
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About that, well done.

still temple
elfin berryBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

still temple
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3125

crystal wraith
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Wrong, it's 1.

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You're confused.

still temple
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crap

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What the hell am I doing here?

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What the hell am I doing here?

crystal wraith
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Does that make sense?

still temple
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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oh so 5^x = 5

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so x = 1

elfin berryBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

crystal wraith
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yeah that.

still temple
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ohhh okay

crystal wraith
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Now about your problem, can you simplify it?

still temple
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so that second log is 5^x = 5^1/2

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or fifth

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i forget

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wait no its half

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so x = 1/2

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?

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and then 2^x = 1/2

crystal wraith
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yeah

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Basically

still temple
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so its $\log_2{\frac{1}{2}}$

elfin berryBOT
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InfiniteAxis

still temple
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which equals -1

fallen galleon
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aye aye

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nice

fallen galleon
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after so long

still temple
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yeeeee

raven olive
still temple
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i got another question

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a^2 + b^2 - c^2 + 2ab

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how do i simplify this

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im thinking is (a + b)^2 + c^2

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and thats the most i can do

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but idk

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nvm

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i got it

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I need some help with a physics problem regarding forces on ramps, sorry if it's a shitty diagram but I am trying to get the acceleration of the force parallel to the ramp, if the mass is being pushed by a horizontal force. I think i have the x component of the horizontal force relative to the ramp, but in trying to get the backwards force from gravity i have to get a different angle than theta, and in the problem i'm doing, I can only define the acceleration in terms of F, m, theta, and g, nothing else

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I don't know how else I would get the acceleration, if i even got the right equation to this.

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I'm self learning Gradients and Directional Derivatives

still temple
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Did I choose the right answer here?

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I firstly calculated the gradient of f(x,y,z), which is:

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So I choose answer A, but I'm not sure which criteria to use to choose the point

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You want f_y, the rate of change with respect to y. That's the jhat component of the gradient

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but how do I choose a point so that the j^ component decreases

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You want a point where f_y<0

still temple
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oh

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Yeah, because f_y is a derivative. You're looking for a point where f is decreasing as you move in the +y direction

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ok

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it's point P(1,1,1) because it becomes negative one

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Hey can someone help me with this problem? I am 100% lost LOL

I found the circumference of 785 and I know that 150 feet around is .191 of the circle but I don't know where to go from there.

elfin ivy
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Could I see the diagram you drew of the situation?

loud eagle
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it's just a circle haha

elfin ivy
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Mark on the circle for me the point where Drew boarded the Ferris wheel and the approximate point where she has traveled 150 feet around

loud eagle
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Alright, are you able to figure out the angle those two points make with the center of the circle?

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Said another way, can you figure out the angle that Drew has traveled around the circle?

loud eagle
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19.1%

elfin ivy
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She's traveled 19.1% of the way around the circle, yes, but what angle does that correspond to?

loud eagle
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68.76 degrees

elfin ivy
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Draw that angle on your diagram

loud eagle
elfin ivy
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Alright nice, how well do you know your trig?

loud eagle
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not well at all im just starting

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i think i use sin somehow because what im looking for is on the y axis but that's all i know

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idk what to input

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Okay, first I'm going to need you to draw the horizontal line segment connecting the point where Drew stopped to the radius on the left.

loud eagle
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is that not the line where the angle is

elfin ivy
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Yes

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the sides of that angle are radii because they go from the center of the circle to its circumference

loud eagle
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yes

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what does that have to do with the problem? i dont get it 💀

elfin ivy
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We're going to draw a right triangle

loud eagle
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ok so where do i draw the line

elfin ivy
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Like this

loud eagle
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ohhh i see

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so the other angle is 21 degrees right

elfin ivy
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Yes

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Do you see which segment on the diagram gives the height of Drew?

loud eagle
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yes

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the stop right

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?

elfin ivy
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The stop is where Drew is located

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We want to find her height off the ground

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Can you find a segment on the diagram whose length is her height off the ground?

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If not, draw one in

loud eagle
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ah ok

elfin ivy
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Cool. Are there any other segments in the diagram with the same length as the one you just drew?

loud eagle
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yes the connecting line that we made the triangle with

elfin ivy
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Why is that?

loud eagle
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im not entirely sure but something to do with symmetry im guessing

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ohh wait no it's because of the radii they both are radii of a different circle

elfin ivy
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Here's the problem with that: You don't actually know if the endpoints of those segments belong to a single circle

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So that reasoning isn't actually valid

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Let me draw a diagram for you

loud eagle
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ok

elfin ivy
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For the moment, let's ignore the segment you just drew. (We will draw it back in in a moment.)

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Instead, let's first draw the line that represents the ground.

loud eagle
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ok

elfin ivy
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Notice that the ground is perpendicular to the radius in the middle of the diagram.

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That's the line from the ON point to the center of the circle

loud eagle
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yes

elfin ivy
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To find the segment you just drew, we drop a perpendicular from the STOP point to the ground

loud eagle
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alrihgt

elfin ivy
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okay it's not letting me post the image for some reason

loud eagle
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yes you posted it 4 times now LMAO

elfin ivy
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here it is

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oh

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woops

loud eagle
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hahaha

elfin ivy
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okay let me go delete those

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gotta love buggy internet connection

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Anyway

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You see that red right angle?

loud eagle
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yes

elfin ivy
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That means the angle right next to it is also a right angle:

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And thus the figure with the blue angles is...

loud eagle
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a rectangle

elfin ivy
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Yup!

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Which means that opposite sides of the rectangle are equal, right?

loud eagle
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yes

elfin ivy
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So that connecting line you drew to make the right triangle might not actually be the height of Drew. But the segment on the left is.

loud eagle
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ah i see

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that makes sense

elfin ivy
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Alright, now using your trig knowledge, your task is to find the length of that segment

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You can't find it directly: You're going to need to do it in a few steps.

loud eagle
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alright

elfin ivy
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To figure out how, first tell me: Which segments can you find the lengths of?

loud eagle
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all of the lines touching the radius and the border all equal 125

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but that's all i know right now

elfin ivy
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Is this what you have?

loud eagle
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yes

elfin ivy
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Okay cool. There are two important things to note here:
(1) The hypotenuse of the right triangle is 125 ft since it is also a radius of the circle.
(2) The height of Drew plus some uknown segment on the left is equal to 125 ft.

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Real quick -- You're not colorblind, are you?

loud eagle
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nope

elfin ivy
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Okay cool I'm going to mark that segment in green

loud eagle
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okay

elfin ivy
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Here's the million dollar question: Can you figure out how to find the length of the green segment?

loud eagle
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if i knew the length with the blue segment connected to the triangle i think i could

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but i don't know how without it

elfin ivy
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Well then, can you find the length of the blue segment connected to the triangle? :P

loud eagle
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no i dont know how

elfin ivy
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Okay let me focus on just the right triangle for now

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Do you know how to find the length of the hypotenuse?

loud eagle
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yes it is 125 because of the radius length

rose heart
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one of ur angle values is wrong

elfin ivy
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Just noticed, sorry about that

rose heart
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a 61 21 90 triangle isnt posisble

elfin ivy
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Copy error

loud eagle
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oh wait i know how

125cos69

elfin ivy
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Yup! If you remember SOH CAH TOA, then cos(69 deg) = Adjacent / Hypotenuse = Green segment / 125

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So Green segment = 125 cos 69deg

loud eagle
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ok that is 44.79

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which means that now we just do 125-44.79?

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and then that should be the answer yes

elfin ivy
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Bingo

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You should get something like 79.71 feet if you use all of the digits for the angle

loud eagle
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ah i see

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alright so for the second part of them problem im just going to be using negative sin/cos to find the reverse yeah?

elfin ivy
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There will probably be some form of inverse sine/cosine involved, yes

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Show me your diagram first

loud eagle
elfin ivy
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Let me draw a copy myself

loud eagle
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yes

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so am i trying to find the angle of the triangle

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because i think from there i can find how far around he is easily but i dont know how to find it

elfin ivy
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Do you know what the hypotenuse of the right triangle is?

loud eagle
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yes 125

elfin ivy
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Then apply SOH CAH TOA

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oh wait hold on

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Okay now I see the problem

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Good news: You are give the height, so you can figure out the length of one of the segments of the triangle

loud eagle
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ohhh that's true

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alright so i have 93.1/125 = sin0

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which means
125sin0 = 93.1

elfin ivy
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Which angle is 0?

loud eagle
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theta my bad

elfin ivy
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Like this?

loud eagle
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yes

elfin ivy
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No i mean theta or 0 or whatever symbol, I just want to make sure we're talking about the same angle ;)

loud eagle
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LOL yeha

elfin ivy
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Okay so remember how sin(theta) is actually Opposite / Hypotenuse?

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You've got Adjacent / Hypotenuse in the diagram

loud eagle
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oh ye so it's actually cos

elfin ivy
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Yeah, ya gotta be careful about that

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Okay, so cos(theta) = 93.1/125

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Then theta is arccos(93.1/125), right

loud eagle
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yes

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41.858

elfin ivy
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So the angle that Matteo traveled through is...?

loud eagle
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138.142?

elfin ivy
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Ye

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Now find the distance Matteo traveled around the ferris wheel rim

loud eagle
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301.22 i think