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Is that like the formula for the shape
that's the area of a rhombus yes
Is it 19,6
well the answer sheet is definitely wrong...
the area of the square below it is 16, and the area of the rhombus is definitely more than that
if you round it then yes
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Trying to solve this integral, but this indeterminate block is preventing me from doing that. I try using L’Hôpital’s rule to fix this, but it only ends up with more indeterminate things. The answer is converging to -1, so this circled term is supposed to be equal to 0, but I don’t know why or how.
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Also, although a different question, my partial fractions is also in bad shape. Although I got the right numbers, I got their signs flipped. A is supposed to be positive and B negative, but I got them switched up. Why is this?
Hmmm, in my opinion partial fractions are correct
Okay, I’ll bring it up to my instructor. Thanks.
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So Im trying to understand this example. I get up to the x-int point, but to get pi/8 its supposed to be 1/4th of pi/4, but wouldnt that be pi/16?
to make pi/4 = pi/8 wouldnt that be half?
im not sure what you mean
ig, thats not how id think about it
just always relate it back to tan(x)
look at the zeros of tan(x), then transform them
those are the coordinates with +-pi/8 in them
How do I get pi/8 is what Im asking
on a regular tan graph, youre looking at between -pi/2 and pi/2
a quarter of the way along is -pi/4, 3 quarters is pi/4
tan of pi/4 is 1, of -pi/4 is -1
2x=+-pi/4 so x=+-pi/8
theres a vertical stretch of 3, so +-1 is +-3
(-pi/8,-3), (pi/8,3)
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I'm trying to do this problem at the moment. I went with an overestimate using a right hand sum. I got -92 but I'm not sure how to check if it's correct. I was hoping someone here could check that? My math was 2(7+0-7-15-18-13-0)=-92.
as you see
the maximum value of the function is 20
and minimum is -20
Could you explain how that's relevant please? I don't get it.
ah. so then my answer is too small.
do you have the answer?
I was not given the answer to the problem sadly.
oh. then yay! -92 is between those :3
i think by estimation they meant the range
doesn't the integral just mean the Riemann Sum?
oh this is called riemann sum
yup you can then
we haven't started using limits to find the exact value yet in my class
^W^
thanks for ur help! ^^
have a good day
you too!
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i need help on c and d
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i think c should be approx 34 because you take normcdf and the lb is 22 and ub is 34 then plug mean and sd to get answer.
And I think d should be approx 143 people.
because the data should be the same cause its approx normal because n>30 so we can just use same statistical informaiton and then apply that to 150 and not 50
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hey guys do i just plug in 3 for this?
you have to prove that the $\lim_{x\to 3}f(x)=f(3)$
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yeah this basically does all 3
oh so should i factor
sure, to evaluate the limit
for polynomials you can just plug in the value to obtain the limit, you can also prove it rigorously using an epsilon-delta proof
Technically, you can't just plug in the value to obtain the limit, as that is based on the fact that the polynomial is continuous, which we are trying to prove. So it sounds like OP is stuck with epsilon-delta proving this.
yeah that makes sense
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I dont understand why this problem does not have a practical interpretation of the vertical intercept
because t = 0 would imply we are at the year 0
but it says that it starts at 1987
so wouldn’t year 0 be 1987, there was 923769 banks
it says t is the year so i’m assuming at 1987, t=1987
that’s just my interpretation
the question doesn’t specify much
but the function is based off years 1987 to 1997
yes thats ok
at year 1987 we would have 923769-1987*458 banks
which is 13,723
this is a much more reasonable number
so the number of banks in 1987 is not the vertical intercept?
no
so i just adjust my interpretation and make it so that t = year instead of t is year since 1987?
thats my understanding of the question yes
okay thank you
of course
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can someone explain how wolfram alpha got this i cant get past this step
,rccw
i think substituting u = x^2 does it
what do i do with xdx
is du = 2xdx
yes
that was the idea, the extra x vanishes into the du and you just end up integrating e^u/2
thank you
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I have a question about epsilon closures
so for the starting dfa state i came up with {q0,q2,q3,q4}
from there if i take 0 as an input would the next step include q0 again? making the next state look like {q0,q1,q2,q3,q4,q5}?
the unlabeled orange arrows i drew are just the epsilon paths
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I’m a little confused on how to find the range
For f(x)
Before I start this problem
And to be honest the domain sell
As well
Because the denominator can’t be factored
So I guess the domain is all real numbers
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U first need to do the substitution for the question needed
?
Like 6a, u need to substitute x+4 into f(x) first
And simplify that thing into the format of a/b
Then find the values when b = 0
And that's the domain
Cuz in a fraction, the denominator cannot be 0
Ye but
That doesn’t help me I just tried
Even i plug it in
The denom can’t be factored
And the domain just stays all real numbers
Unless you could work out of the first one
And show me possibly
Because maybe I’m just doing it incorrectly
Ys the domain will be real nunbers if the denominator cannot be factorized
But how would I determine the range
I know it would shifted 2 units down
But wouldn’t I have to determine the original range of f(x)
Range is real numbers
Ye
Done
How
It’s not all real numbers
How?
It has the same end behavior as
1/x
So it has to be as x approaches x infinity f(x) = 0
Right????
Then, make the form of a+(b/c)
Here let me plug in demos
a is the range of start or end
How would I find those
Umm
Maybe my teacher made this problem incorrectly
Try this
And it should be x^x +x +6
No, i remember wrong, this type of question no need dervivatives
Oh ok
Make the form of a+(b/c)
Wdym
I don’t think I follow
Ye
Gl
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Statistics
if you have ti 83 calculator
A recent survey reported that 49% of adults in a certain country own tablets. Using the binomial distribution, complete parts (a) through (e) below.
c. What is the probability that out of the next six adults surveyed, at least four will own a tablet?
I tried binomcdf(6,0.49,3) and it gave me 0.6748
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What is the issue
how i do this with a ti 83
What's wrong with this
What do you think binomcdf(6,0.49,3) tells you
In words
fixed number of trials is 6, probability of success is .49, and 3 is the fixed number of success
binomial cumulative distribution
That doesn't explain what you think binomcdf returns
It's the probability of something
?
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what have you tried?
my thing is I dont understand it
Ik how to find the transformation of two points
idk exactly what to do here'
I dont
do you know what projection means?
theres a normal picture they like to put into peoples heads
like a flashlight, and a shadow
yes I do
so this just means
we shine a light on it from the right or left
the shadow gets cast onto the y axis
so like, say a point is at (4,5)
and we project it onto the y axis
wheres it go? what coordinate?
I am not following anymore
like in this picture
this would be projection onto the x axis
v is some vector, alternatively a point
lets say v is ... (4,1)
and then, we project it onto the x axis
and it becomes the red vector, alternatively coordinate
and now, its at (4,0)
because its just as far to the right as it was before
but we removed all the vertical information by projecting it
do you see what i mean?
a little yes
say v is <4,1>, then the red vector in the picture is <4,0>
okay
say we projected on the y axis instead
what would v become?
right now its <4,1>
well, projecting on the x axis removes vertical information ...
so projecting on the y axis should remove horizontal information ...
wouldnt it be 0,1
thats what I meant my bad
youre good
so, you see what we have to do, right
if we want to project a vector onto the y axis
lets make it more general
yes I do now
yep yep I see it now
so, we gotta design a matrix that does this
yah but idek how to put that into a matrix
well, you can guess
good place to start is like this
1's and 0's
do you know how to do vector matrix multiplication?
yes I do
jan Niku
problem is, we do this
we get <x, y> back
i guess as youd maybe expect
but we want <0, y>
yes
but isnt x negative
here? no, its just the identity matrix
no I am talking about my question
but if I wanted to get <0 y> wouldnt I multiply by <0 1>
you want a matrix
so start here
and this about what we want
we want <0, y>
what can we try to change in the matrix
what seems reasonable to try
remember we are only guessing 1's and 0's
make a 1 into a 0
or make a 0 into a 1
what do you try?
make the first 1 into a 0
jan Niku
did it work?
I mean we got 0 and y

so I would say yah
okay halfway done
oh gawd there is more??
you still need the reflection about the line y=-x
this one is easier to do graphically
would I just change the 1 into a -
well
do you know what you want yet?
i mean like, before we knew we wanted <0, y>
can you tell where P and Q go
when we reflect across this line
looks like <1, 0> goes to <0, -1>
how about <2, 1>?
<-2,-1>
oh hold up
yep I see it now
I wasnt following but now I see
and the quation says y=-x
so we could just write <-y, -x> directly
so, we wanna start with <x, y> and go to <-y, -x>
i can give you a starting point with this one
you fill in the gaps
heres the start:
$\mqty( 0 & 1 \ 1 & 0 ) \mqty(x\y) = \mqty(y\x)$
jan Niku
so close
yea
okay, so we got two matrices
lets call this last one R, for reflection
the other one P, for projection
how do we assemble the answer?
say you have some vector <x, y> and we wanna apply the transformation the problem says in that order
in what order do you put R, P, and <x, y>
thats the order of application, right
so assemble the pieces
oh, i think this is how it ends up
I was looking for PR<x, y> 
but yea i think this is what comes out 
,w {{0,0},{0,1}} * {{0,-1},{-1,0}}
idk I am sorry I was just tryna see if Ik how to do it
looks like you got it, yea
man I appreciate you sooo much

fuck I wish u can tutor me throughout the semester 😭
yes I am
my thing is I dont retain any of the information that is taught because I am just a slow understander
same
but you understand this
i think its pretty universal to not retain very much during a first course in linear algebra
you are insane bro I'll give it to you
ive taken the same class multiple times 
man I need help in this class in calc 2 and in physics its all bad
different names
well calc 2 and lin alg they can help u here
youre in university? do you have a math lab
yes I am and no we do not have math lab
no tutoring center or anything
at my last college they did
thats wild
ive never been to a school that didnt have a big math tutoring room where all the math nerds hung out
no tutoring for this level of math
hmmmmmm
well this is just my luck
well hey im around ping me iyw
other people too
linear algebra and calc ii are popular subjects because math nerds have a soft heart for them
youre lucky
I think Imma transfer colleges because this is bad
real analysis, probability and multivariable stuff is harder to get help with
linear algebra you will have no problem
to not have tutoring available for calc 2 is pretty poor im not gonna lie
but dont get too bent out of shape about it
there are tons of resources
it sure don't feel like it
I studied so hard for my calc 2 exam and still failed
everything is doable if you put in the work
relatable
Idk how to stay positive'
with that
I have to get a B on my next 2 exams in order to pass this class
well im around, so are others
with the way I am retaining information I don't think its doable
so if you have questions, we can help
calc ii can be pretty grab bag
look with calc 2 I swear I thought Ik what I was doing but still managed to fail
its totally possible to not do well in the beginning and get better
maybe the test was hard idk
and retaking calc 2 is a pretty common thing too you know not the end of the world
but you arent even there yet so you know
anyways i dont want to waste all your time
feel free to ping if you got questions
i believe in you fwiw 
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hi i asked this yesterday, but it got timed out so im posting again
i still dont know how 2 do it
assume you know a and b, how would you solve p(x) = 0?
someone suggested yesterday about vieta formula, if the roots are, say p, q
then:
a = -(p + q)
b = pq
also since p and q are distinct integers roots,
p(x) = (x + p)(x + q)
this is what i currently know
as p and q are (distinct) integers and if you would know b, you could determine all prime factors of b and separate them to get all possibilities for p and q.
yep but how 2 satisfy the other condition that p(60) is perfect square
while also getting the least possible value for b
if p(60) is a perfect square it is some c^2, now you can write (c-60)(c+60)=c^2-60^2=60a+b, again you can find some criteria for divisibilty.
i dont get the "now you can write (c-60)(c+60)=c^2-60^2=60a+b" part
ok, lets try it another way. p(60) is a perfect square which means there is some integer c with c^2=p(60). and p(60)=(60-p)(60-q). so every prime factor of 60-q and very prime factor of 60-q must appear twice (or in an even count) in the product (60-p)(60-q) which is c^2..
why it's (60-p)(60-q) and not (60+p)(60+q)
if p and q are roots of a quadratic function, then this function can be written as (x-p)(x-q), now use x = 60.
oh yea, also p,q will be < 0
no one said this.
i just figured since a and b should be positive
and since a = -(p+q) and b = pq
so p,q should be negative?
ok.
so it means (60-p) > 60 and (60-q) both greater than 60 ?
but heres where i get stuck cuz it's kinda hard 2 find a p,q that minimizes b and also makes (60-p)(60-q) a perfect square
as i said before look at the divisibility. is p = -1 an option? 60-p would then be 61 this would give you that 60-q must be 61 times some square which means 60-q is at least 4 x 61 -> q is at least ... -> b is at least ...
no try p = -2 , ....
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so (60-p)(60-q) must have even prime factors exponents
and since p != q, (60-p) != (60-q)
i said this here
so it's kinda like just bruteforcing til i find a suitable p, q
you do not try all possibilites for p and q. you wont calculate all q = -1, - 2, -3, ... for p = -1. youre trying (some) p and make conclusions what q can be.
therefore i wont call it bruteforcing, its a distinction of cases.
makes sense, because i found (60+660)(60+120)
p=-660, q=-120
there is a soluton with much smaller (in absolute values) p and q.
you could make some educated guess. the criteria that (60-p)(60-q) is a perfect square is fulfilled if 60-p and 60-q itself are perfect squares. what are the smallest squares greater then 60?
Why can't p and q be less than -60?
why not?
Have you try it yet?
why should i? you need the smallest b which is p times q. so i need small (in absulut values) p and q. a p like -37654 doesnt help anything for the question. yes, such p and q are possible, btu you need a small b.
i think it's the smallest
but it's hard 2 prove
i'll try submitting this answer now looks correct
omgggg
it's correct
thanks man this has been going on 4 days lol
anyways thanks man i'll close this now
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Does anyone know which textbook this comes from?
@high granite Has your question been resolved?
naw, I've just given up because google won't tell me anything 😭
Have u tried lens
oh I've tried that
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I understand how to go from cos θ/sin θ/tan θ to cos2θ/sin2θ/tan2θ but i when i do the reverse, i get wrong answer
and i also don't get why cos2θ is positive if its quad 3
if theta in quad 3
then cos theta is negative
cos2θ may still be positive
can you show your working?
yeah 1 sec
i was attempting to solve for cosθ by plugging in the known value of cos2θ into the equation cos2θ = 2(cosθ)^2 and i ended up with -(2√5)/5
but when plug -(2√5)/5 back into the equation as cosθ, i don't get back the given value of cos2θ
so i guess basically im looking to reverse the double angle formula but im doing something wrong
is there an inverse function im supposed to use or is my current approach at solving for cosθ directly correct and im just doing something wrong during that process?
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how do i find the derivative of 7/x^2 :?
ok so 7x^-2
and then u bring the negative exponent to the front and subtract the power by 1 ?
but then it would be 14x^-3
look at power rule again
yes
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$\frac{4}{1-\frac{1}{2}}=8$ and $\frac{1}{2^n}=2^{-n}$
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idk how to do this
Forget about the latter requirement for the moment. Can you count the number of ways to assign the five people to the four rooms, assuming five people to a room is allowed?
4^5 isnt it?
subtract 4 i think?
idk
wait i just realised why cant it be 5^4
Sorry my phone just died
alr np
Yes there’s exactly four bad assignments - you put everyone in the same room, and there’s four possible rooms
alr but i was wonder why cant 5^4 be an option for my above answer
So you’re thinking of assigning rooms to persons instead?
Well if you try to count it that way, you might assign multiple rooms to the same person
Also you’d always miss at least one person in the assignment
alr
If you want to count all the things in a set of S objects that DON’T satisfy some property P, then you could instead count how many objects do satisfy P and subtract that from S
Sometimes counting this way is easier than the reverse
Of course
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Look at f-g
Oh sorry wrong question
Did you graph the function
What does it give you
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sin(a+b)
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Why did I get part b wrong? The answer they got is 16
I juts followed the equation
What the fuck
sir or maam I think there may be something on your book
ok never mind
that’s in the page
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Temp increases by 2
You put temp = 2
You need to find the change
f(T + 2) - f(T)
What’s f
Which is -24?
Idk what to do
Pls help
Still got it wrong
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if 2 linear equations are parallel, then what do they share?
the same gradient
yes
im not sure
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Can s1 explain why it equals?
a short answer is that sin is an odd function
a − b = −(b − a)
if you go the opposite direction you end at the same distance, but reflected vertically
sin is y
Okay, so if I have sin equasion, I just can take the "-" and put it inside the angle value (inside the brackets next to the sin)
?
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How would i use contradiction to prove this??
big hint, 21a + 30b = 3(7a + 10b)
oh wait it’s cos 1234 is not divivisble by 3 right
yep
thanks👍👍
3(7a + 10b) is a multiple of 3, can't possibly by equal to a number that's not a multiple of 3
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i was absent for a whole week i don't get this😭
It’s very simple, read the lecture notes
Or Watch a YouTube video
You’ll end up using a calculator
For the problems btw
i can't find anything for double shaded parts🥲
use symmetry
just find one and then multiply that value by 2
what is the area for this part
look up 2.65 in ur z table
subtract 1 from it, my bad
ouhh ok tysmm
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Given the two vectors from R4, u1 = (1, 3, 7, 1)T and u2 = (2, 7, 5, 5)T Find, if possible, two
linearly independent vectors v1,2 ∈ R4 such that v1 is perpendicular to both u1 and u2 and likewise v2 ⊥ u1,2
Could someone remind me what linear depended/independant meant?

I am linearly dependant on chartbit

When you only have two vectors, they are linearly dependent if one is a multiple of the others
So being linearly dependant means that they are paralell and can be written as a linear combination of each other?
That's for two vectors
For more, they are dependent if one is a linear combination of the others
There are equivalent conditions to this, but it's important to understand the meaning
$u_1 = (1,3,7,1) u_2 = (2,7,5,5) v_1 = (x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4) v_2 = (x_5,x_6, x_7, x_8)$
Merineth
But i'm trying to find v1 and v2 where they are perpendicular to u1 and u2
As in the scalar product is 0
The vectors u_1 and u_2 define a plane since they are linearly independent, do you agree?
Then, a vector is perpendicular to them if (and only if) it's perpendicular to that plane.
oooh right that makes sense
Now, the set of vectors that are perpendicular to a plane (in R^4) is also a plane. R^4 can be split into two perpendicular planes.
so basically i can think of it as u_1 and u_2 make x and y axis respectively and in that case z will be perpendicular to both of them? Where x and y make the plane
And from that set of vectors, you want to take 2 that are linearly independent.
That's 3 dimensions
Oh
u_1 and u_2 define a plane. All vectors perpendicular to it are also a part of a plane. The solution set to u_1 * x = 0 AND u_2 * x = 0 is also a plane in itself.
Wouldn't the cross method between u_1 and u_2 create a vector that is perpendicular to both of them?
Yeah in 3D
ah right
We're in 4D
Setting x = (x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4) and solving u_1 * x = 0, u_2 * x = 0 (a system with 2 equations) will give you an infinite number of solutions.
Yes
v instead of x, whatever
Also, we can verify that those solutions form a plane in another way: we have 2 equations but 4 unknowns, meaning 2 degrees of freedom, which is precisely a plane.
So once you have your solution set, which you will express in terms of 2 parameters, you can just choose any 2 linearly independent vectors out of it.
Of course you don't NEED to know the solution set is a plane to solve this, but it's good to develop an intuition for these things.

oooh
so this will be solved using matrix multiplication combined with Gaussian elimination?
$\left(\begin{array}{cccc}
1 & 3 & 7 & 1
\end{array}\right)$ *
$\left(\begin{array}{cccc}
x & y & z & t
\end{array}\right)$
Then using gaussian elimination
Merineth
No
No?
I recommend writing like x_1, x_2, x_3, x_3 and then using t, s for your parameters in the end
Yeah
^T is transpose
So it's just a column vector
1
3 * (x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4)
7
1

time to remember matrix multiplication
$\left(\begin{array}{cccc}
x_1 + x_2 + x_3+ x_4 \
3x_1+3x_2+3x_3+3x_4 \
7x_1+7x_2+7x_3+7x_4 \
x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4 \
\end{array}\right)$
Merineth
Is this how would be multiplied?
Why do you have 4 equations
i thought that was how i would do it
u_1 * x = 0
u_2 * x = 0
2 equations, write them in terms of the coordinates
Like simplify what u_1 * x is, etc
Then, write that as matrix multiplication
(There is actually a way to get the final matrix immediately but I'll tell you how after this)
If you forget how to multiply matrices, here's a mnemonic with rabbits and tall buildings.
Bit of a silly video.
Attributions:
White Rabbit by Mr.Michael is licensed under CC BY 4.0 https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/white-rabbit-c172b26caee64554b30a4da3ea734e80
Go check in your book then
You want to write it as Ax = b
and x is (x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4)
You want a matrix times your vector
@next basalt I muscle memory matrix multiplication by holding my hands up in the air. Left hand moves right, and right hand moves down
Here is an example:
And that's literally how you do matrix mult
Just multiply each row by each column when you have A * B
But that is what i did on this one
and it's wrong apparently
Example:
2 equations, 3 variables:
2x + 3y - z = 6
3x - 2y + z = 8
x + y - 5z = -4
You can write this system as:
You should be writing the matrix multiplication like this
[\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x_{1}\x_{2}\x_{3}\x_{4}\end{bmatrix}]
fishwhale
$\begin{bmatrix}
2 & 3 & -1\
3 & -2 & 1\
1 & 1 & -5
\end{bmatrix} \cdot \begin{bmatrix}
x\
y\
z
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
6\
8\
-1
\end{bmatrix}$
aa
my latex
Wait
No
lemme fix
No
RedstonePlayz09
Here we go
(1,3,7,1) Is in transposed form @calm hull
Take this as an example
.
Try to multiply it out and see why it's equivalent
The transposed form is what you need to get a matrix multiple to get a single dot product
[\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x_{1}\x_{2}\x_{3}\x_{4}\end{bmatrix} = \mathbf{u}{1}\cdot \mathbf{x} = x{1} + 3x_{2} + 7x_{3} + x_{4} \in \mathbb{R}]
fishwhale
But why are you transposing v_1
in the assignment it never says that
u_1 is transposed
not v_1
It's transposed
Because we assume all vectors are columns
Which are $n \times 1$ matrices
fishwhale
what
This is the norm in terms of writing $\mathbf{A}\mathbf{x} = \mathbf{b}$
fishwhale
When they are transposed aren't they supposed to be columns and if not then they are rows?
Then you have done it wrong?
You are literally saying two different things
The matrix multiplication is only defined this way
This doesn't work
$u_1 = (1,3,7,1)^T$
Merineth
Right?
Yes
And it is transposed
Yes
Yes
Ok so
Why are you writing it as a row?
fishwhale
So because the dot product is written like that we should just disregard the entire rule of transposing?
What rule
Dot products do not accept row vectors
[x^{T}\cdot y = \text{Illegal}]
[xy = \text{Illegal}]
fishwhale
You can't multiply a 1x4 * 1x4 matrix
Am I multiplying a 1x4 by a 1x4 matrix?
Like i'm soooo confused now
Is that how you read this notation?
you guys keep saying different things
Am i not supposed to
take u_1 and v_1. Apply matrix multiplication and then find the variables with Gauss elimination?
What is the dimension of (\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix})?
fishwhale
R^4
fishwhale
1x4
What kind of matrix is (\begin{bmatrix}x_{1}\x_{2}\x_{3}\x_{4}\end{bmatrix})?
fishwhale
4x1
Then where do you get 1x4 * 1x4?
You don't have [1 3 7 1}
What
You have $[1,3,7,1]^T$
Merineth
Is [1,3,7,1] transposed here?
[{a^{T}}^{T} \overset{?}{=} \text{Illegal?}]
fishwhale
(\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix}) is just (\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix})
?
fishwhale
You always read (\begin{bmatrix}1&3&7&1\end{bmatrix}) as a 1x4 matrix
fishwhale
But i'm given $[1,3,7,1]^T$ not $[1,3,7,1]$
Merineth
[{a^{T}}^{T} \overset{?}{=} \text{Illegal?}]
fishwhale
If you cannot answer this you have bigger problems than matrix multiplication
WELL
MAYBE
If you instead of repeating everything
you could perhaps
i don't know
explain a little better
You aren't even answering
my questions that i have
So i'm just getting more and more confused
Like how am i supposed to understand when literally none of my questions get answered
You type this
but still haven't answered why you are changing it from transposed form
to row form
.
????????????????
Like if i don't understand it the first time you type it, how do you expect me to understand it by replying to the same message with a "." ???

Tried to catch up but I'm confused 
Merineth
I assume this is what i want to accomplish
Yea and the other products u1.v2 and u2.v1 being zero too
$u_1 \cdot v_1 = 0 \
u_1 \cdot v_2 = 0 \
u_2 \cdot v_2 = 0 \
u_2 \cdot v_1 = 0 \
\
(1,3,7,1)^T \cdot (x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4) = 0 \
(1,3,7,1)^T \cdot (x_5,x_6,x_7,x_8) = 0 \
(2,7,5,5)^T \cdot (x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4) = 0 \
(2,7,5,5)^T \cdot (x_5,x_6,x_7,x_8) = 0$
Merineth
So basically like this?
Effectively, though as per before, notation is a bit off 
either you can write them as say
[
\pmqty{1 \ 3 \ 7 \ 1} \cdot \pmqty{x_1 \ x_2 \ x_3 \ x_4} = 0
]
or
[
\pmqty{1 & 3 & 7 & 1} \pmqty{x_1 \ x_2 \ x_3 \ x_4} = 0
]
or
[
\pmqty{1 & 3 & 7 & 1} \pmqty{x_1 & x_2 & x_3 & x_4}^T = 0
]
(noting the dot product for vectors $x,y$ is defined by $x\cdot y = x^T y$)
@devout valley
Even if i'm given a transposed vector, is it ok to transpose it myself at will?
(of course, strictly speaking, the bottom two are matrix products and get you a 1x1 matrix as a result, but effectively no difference between a 1x1 matrix and a scalar)
And you can transpose stuff as you wish if it makes things more convenient, provided what you end up doing with them is legal 
For that one, so that you get a 1 x 4 multiplied by a 4x1
(which would return you to a 1 x 1, which we wanted)
Generally in text stuff gets written in the transpose notation $(x_1, x_2, x_3, x_4)^T$ to make it look neater on paper, so then when you do something like $x^T y$ then you end up with transposes cancelling out on the left one $x^t$
@devout valley
is matrix multiplcation and dot product equivalent to each other ?
$(1,3,7,1) \cdot (a,b,c,d) = 0 \implies a+3b+7c+d = 0$
Merineth
Not quite "equivalent", but
the dot product can be considered as a matrix multiplication (see if you have $x, y$, then their dot product you can think of as $x \cdot y = x^t y$)
for matrix multiplication, you can consider each entry as something you get from a dot product, in a way
@devout valley
Let $a_{i}$ be the $i$-th row of $A$. Then $Ax=b$ can be written as
[Ax=\begin{bmatrix}a_{1}^{T}x \ a_{2}^{T}x \ \vdots \ a_{n}^{T}x\end{bmatrix}=b]
fishwhale
So knowing how and where the dot products come in multiplication is very useful
$a+3b+7c+d = 0 \
2a+7b+5c+5d = 0
\
\left(\begin{array}{cccc|c}
1 & 3 & 7 & 1 & 0 \
2 & 7 & 5 & 5 & 0
\end{array}\right)$
Merineth
