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I mean all lcm(a, b)= 2024
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im being dumb asking chem but can anyone answer this ?
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I would suggest maybe try asking in #old-network chemistry server
sure thanks
yeah this is a full on chemistry problem, and i havent done IUPAC naming in a year lol
lmao i mean im being dumb asking chem in maths server
Won't it just be pentan-2-on and 2,2-dimethylopropan
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Is this measuring the length or width?
width, if its the shorter one
Ok so r length and height the same thing
well length denotes how long it is, height denotes how tall it is, breadth denotes how broad it is
So in here they’re both the same thing?
look, it depends how you place the object. say you have placed the book (or whatever it is) like you have in the image you shared. then your breadth is what you asked, length is the longer one and height is basically the thickness of the book (here)
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Actually there is no difference between them it depends on what you say
And maybe how the object stands is important
But i don't think it makes any mathematical sense
They are just any of the 3 dimensions
But it is natural that they have names such as height and thickness to make it easier to understand
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can someone calculate this for me? its just a definite integral but i cant find anything that can do it pls help
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its not a problem
i just need to know the answer to that integral
its a surface area of a solid of revolution formula
if u cant help just say so lol
I don't think many people would want to help you without knowing the context.
Or with that attitude of yours.
i didnt mean to sound rude
i just didnt want him to waste time on me which he could help others with
I'm trying to help by saying that what you are asking for sounds ridiculous and without context I doubt anyone is willing to help. I predict solving that integral is a waste of time unless we understand how you got to it in the first place
I do actually recommend you read this
Its a surface area of a solid of revolution and im doing it for an egg
this is the original function for the egg:
https://nyjp07.com/index_egg_E.html i got the original function from this website
Oh were those your estimates of an egg surface?
yes
I tried using calculators online and my gdc but i cant get either to work
I was hoping someone knew a software i didnt
insane lmao
i mean you can use wolfram alpha
just good luck trying to retype that correctly
It might exceed computation time tho
or desmos
desmos didnt work ill try wolfram
eh, maybe. but computers are pretty damn fast at numerical computation
yes lmao i tried doing it on a gdc and i got it stuck
i don't think they want a precise result lol
Use python + mpmath + trapezium rule
Yeah but wolfram is pretty damn finicky about how much computation time it gives out for free
alright thanks ill try those and sorry if i came of as rude
one last question
can wolfram be wrong?
are you getting something weird?
well im gonna look at the value and see if it sounds plausable
oh wait
Yeah but im reintering it
I research numerical methods for solving non linear ODEs and answers blow up all the time. I doubt a simple integral would cause Wolfram to break tho
that would make things simpler but for the sake of my report thing i have to show every step
Anyway i think that would be all
thanks
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how can you find the center of mass of a 1d line?
if you have a density function
You take the weighted average of all positions, this is an integral. Do you have a specific question?
yup
should it be to the first power?
You would want $$\int_0^L \rho(x)\cdot x \dd x$$
Jelle
no
Of course.
! What the hell am I doing here?
It's $\f{\int \dd m x}{\int \dd m}$ in general
! What the hell am I doing here?
why tho
Centre of mass is meant to be a point about which the moment of mass is zero.
If it's a point, it cannot really be something like mass * x. (it needs to be just x)
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how do i start 14
!occupied, but do a substitution for sin(x)
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how :(
As for here, you're aware that polynomials/quadratics are continuous, right?
yes
take #help-44|stanley-🌲-v2-dans quickly before it goes!
Anyways, can you use the fact $\lim_{x\to 1} f(x) = 5$ and $\lim_{x\to -2} f(x) = 8$ to write an equation?
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how
(do you know what continuity implies about those limits?)
no
Hmmm, what do you know about continuity? Do you know how it's defined?
I see, anyways, a tl;dr is that a function is continuous at a point, say $a$, if $\lim_{x\to a} f(x) = f(a)$ (that is the limit exists, and is equal to the function value at that point)
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Having been given that, can you then maybe rewrite the fact that $\lim_{x\to 1} f(x) = 5$ and $\lim_{x\to -2} f(x) = 8$, knowing that $f$ is continuous?
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continuity is basically saying "get rid of the limit sign, and you can then replace x in the function with the numbers you're going to"
yea
Do you know how to take limits?
Welllll, I'll take that...
Can you do that with $\lim_{x\to 1} ax^2 + bx$ for me? You concluded correctly that $c=0$
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a(1)^2+b(1)=5
Cool, and now, that is equal to 5
Can you do similar for the limit $\lim_{x\to -2} ax^2 + bx$, and simplify what you get?
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a+b=5
a + b, the 1 is the only term squared 
wait its -2
Yea fixed 
(may be worth noting the second equation you could write as 2a - b = 4...)
yes
Yes as in you're happy to solve those for a and b?
You can divide by 2, if you find
a + b = 5
2a - b = 4
easier to solve
There you go, looking good 
Heheh, if only that were possible 
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Need help with how to approach this. Tried integration by parts but got way too messy fast.
What if you try a substitution?
Thanks, did u-sub and it worked out nicely
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Just small question
When taking the limit
-ln|b+3| goes to negative infinity
And ln|b+2| goes to positive
And they cancel right
To give an answer of ln(2)
The limit of -ln(b+3)+ln(b+2) as b approaches infinity is not zero if that's what you're asking
wait nevermind it is zero
Yeah
but you should carefully justify why that is
using the continuity of the natural logarithm
It is 0, but to prove it you cant be like "inf - inf"
Ye so -ln(b+3)+ln(b+2) =
No
Oh
Think about what the thing inside the log should be so that ln(that) = 0
-2
Uh
Wait
Nvm
Uh
Has to be ln(1)
Wait
Infinity over infinity
Ln(1) = 0
Is that correct
Again, inf/inf is not satisfying
b²/b is infinity/infinity and yet it goes to infinity
We need a better justification for why b+2/b+3 goes to 1
Can you try to get rid of the b in the numerator?
(Ie doing division of b+2 by b+3)
Oh
Possible, but really unneeded
Is that polynomial long division
Yeah
b+2 = C(b+3) + D
Should be quite easy...
1-(1/b+3)
ln2 - ln1 but yes
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i put this as my answer and it was marked wrong
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real numbers? pi workers?
huh
these are all the options for the thing at the end
and for all the answers under it u can choose makes sense or doesnt make sense
i would choose positive integers for the last point.
is that all i need to change
i cant get it wrong anymore
or i have to do 2 questions instead of just one
f(5.5) does not make sense for me. or do you know 5.5 fulltime workers?
but you decide what to change/not to change.
well i mean it could be 5 workers and one worker only does half the job
then he is not full time.
so would that not make the thing be does NOT make sense
and you cant add or taken off someone.
thats what i said: f(5.5) does not make sense for me. o
yeah i was just trying to make 100% sure
it was correct
thank you bro
i still have 2 questions that i might need help on can i lyk
ok im pretty sure this is right but im not sure if i made a mistake.
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you can buy -5 gallons of paint? you can buy pi gallons of paint?
wdym
theres no -5
and where is there pi
ohh are u refering to because i put all real numbers
youre last answer ist "all real numbers". -5 is a real number. pi is a real number. so can you buy -5 gallons paint? can you buy pi gallons of paint?
pi is non negative
hm
positve integers?
i honestly dont know
i was absent the whole unit when we learned this so ive just been using common snese
sense*
i dont know what you can buy in your country. can you buy one half gallon? maybe. then integer would be wrong., but i am pretty sure, you cant buy pi gallons. no one would be able to measure exact pi.
in "my world" none of them. i would choose maybe positive integers or - if you can buy a half gallon - non negative real numbers. but it doesnt feel right for me.
it was non negitve real numbers
i think ur just over compliacting it, Its alegbra 1, we havent done anything with pie yet
then try to buy sqrt(2) gallons. but anyway.
ok so last one, Just answered this confidently but i got it wrong, So i only have one try left
@polar valve
how do you get f(-20)=-1.6? and again sqrt(2) stairs?
but i am sure, i am overcomplicating.
you should ask someone else.
its (5|-20|+3(-20))/100 which gives 0,4 for me.
oh okay i must have done that wrong.
if its not too much trouble could you double check the other ones too?
thanks for the help btw fr
the other two values look ok for me.
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@torn jolt yo i saw u helpin someone else u think u can help me on one problem rq
sure
okay so i was asking this other dude and he helped me but im not sure if this is still right
cause if i miss this i have to do 2 questions instead of one
u can put this for the last answer
and then for the other 3 u just put makes sense or does NOT make sense
it looks right to me
oh wait
for 42.5
it doesn't make sense
@void portal
you can't run up half a step
because that would mean stopping mid air
and for this one, it's only integers
but its .4 at the end for all of them
ok
burning a decimal amount of calories does make sense
but you can't take like one half of a step
it's either you take a step, or you don't
yes
oohhh
crap it was
but
look i forgot to put a context on the second answer
cause it reset everything and i re put in everything
oh
okay
because i was confused about what i did wrong because everything should be right
gotta do 2 questions now 😭
rip 😭
yeah u did everything right just i made a mistake
alr so i think i got all three answers right but im not sure for the last thing
@torn jolt
uhhh since it is an exponential equation
it should have all real numbers as its domain
the only restriction it has is on the range
what are your choices?
no choices for the 2 things after the first
just type in the boxes
but for the first its still the same
it's just all real numbers
everything is right except the last part
what should the last one be?
does it make sense to sell negative t-shirts?
no
bro can u just tell me the answer i gotta wake up super early tmrw and im tryna get some sleep 😭
@torn jolt
it's just whole numbers
something wrong
weird
actually
it's either positive integers or integers in a≤x≤b
how many attempts do you get here
technically it's positive integers, but i feel like it's integers in a≤x≤b
ok
because there are some amount of t-shirts that wouldn't produce a profit
but then it wouldn't make sense for them to sell like 109,983 shirts
alr
i dont even understand what ur talkin about imma be honest
which ever one u think is right i will put
u figure it out?? @torn jolt
Sorry I’m busy doing my own work
ur good
mb idk how to do that can i just dm u rq
nah i need help with my own stuff
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@void portal Notice that whatever you choose for "does NOT make sense in this context" should be outside the domain
you put that f(2) does not make sense, so that would imply that 2 is not in the domain
2 is in all of the domains except either the real numbers or integers a<x<b
I think f(17.5) would rule out 'real numbers a<x<b' so you're left with one option
however, in my opinion, f(2) does make sense in this context
a negative profit is just a loss
and it makes sense (to me) that if you don't sell enough shirts you aren't profitable
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Can anyone solve this? The issue is that i dont know how to approach the summation
you could first do the left side, transferring n = 8 to the right
you could do them simultaneously
or you could say that n = 3
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No idea what any of this means
But the one on the right doesn't have an i in it, are you sure that's right?
yes
ok basically
u could increment through the 1st summation
and n ends up being 8 at the end
and if u know how to code u can think of it as a variable
and then u put that "variable" into the next summation
or you could do the summations simultaneously
so when n = 4 on the left for example, you do the 1st summation and on the next one you would go from i=1-->4
What is the context of this expression?
Addition is commutative, does it matter?
Anyways, the left thing is just 3(3+4+5+6+7+8) and the right thing is -10(n+n+n+..... N times)
So the whole thing is 99-10n²
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help with bayes' theorem/conditional probability?
this is the question
this is my work so far
i found an answer as 5.8% but that seems really low, and i think i may have taken some liberties with the math
can you see anything wrong?
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If you flip 8 fair coins, what is the probability that you will get: A) Exactly 5 heads?
I did C(8,5)/2^8 = 56/256 is this the correct answer? I need someone to back me up. I can show the work done using LaTeX if needed
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yes
What about if I wanted at least 3 heads? What would I do in that case, find the probability of exactly 3, then 4, then 5, then 6, etc. That seems too lengthy?
1 minus the probability of 0, then 1, then 2
Oh thats smart actually
complementary counting is often useful in combinatorial exercises
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I took an approach with this
sadly i have no answer key
So i just did 0.20 x 76
got 15.20
added 15.20+76
is that bad approac??
answer $91.20
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let 100% = x
let 80% = 76
(x/100)* 80 = 76/80
x/100 * 100 = (76/80)*100
x = (76/80)*100
x = 95
because you are dealing with percentage 20% of 76 is inconsistent, I dont know how to explain it
so just know that when you divide any number by 100, the result is 1% of your original and thats how i set up my equation
so when you do x/100 thats 1% of original and we know that 80% of original is equal to 76$
so we have to multiply that by 80
so we get (x/100)* 80 (this is equal to 80% of our original) = $76
now you just use algebra
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Calculus 2:
Question 8. I have tried multiple times but I am not getting it.
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why is this false
chain rule in the derivative.
(ln|f(x)| + C)'
= (ln|f(x)|)' * (f(x))' + (C)'
= f'(x)/f(x)
but isnt 1/(a variable) = to ln(that variable)
what if f(x) = x^2 + 2? Just as a practical example
f(x) is not a variable, it's a function
so it must be x in the denominator
for that to make sense, yes.
You may not realize this but the chain rule is always being applied.
For example, say if f(x) = x, then
ln|f(x)| + C, then the derivative will be:
(ln|x| + C)'
= (ln|x|)' * (x)' + (C)'
= (1/x) * (1)
= (1/x)
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Because it is an isosceles triangle, the right-angled segment splits the base in half.
y=60?
Correct.
thank you
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position or distance is the integral of velocity
you know, 1- the initial velocity, 2- the acceleration, 3- the time
so like the little squiggle with 3 and 7 as a bound and then -9.8t + 16 dt?
and evaluate the intergral?
yes pretty much yeah
you dont have to integrate
i think
btw
when i did that i got it wrong
I evaluate the intergral or I find the derivative or antiderivative?
wait nvm i got it
can you help me with this one?
is it the antiderivative of the equation?
is -132 right?
yes yes
nono youre all good 🙂
so it's the same thing kinda for this equation
you'd take the integral because distance is the integral of velocity
i mean i would do the integral from -3 to -1 of the velocity equation
yes the integral of that
from -1 to 3
actually what you might need to do is 0 to 3
and -1 to 0
wait what
because the -1 might make be negative area
and that wouldn't be the "total" distance
do I add those or smth
yes you would
wait i might be wrong ab this
i think actually
what you would do
is t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t = 0
and you would get t = 0, 1, and -30
so you would do the (integral from -1 to 0 ) + (integral from 0 to 1) + (integral from 1 to 3)
and then you woudl get the right answer
and I'd just use my calculator to do all that
what do i even put in my calculator sorry im lost hahaha
tysm
is that right 😭
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idk then srry
its okkk dw
i rlly thought that was the answer
actually try to do what the hint says
integral from -1 to 3 of absolute value of v(t)
We are so up
Can I ask one more question and I will leave it alone.
you dont even need to help me i just dont know what its even asking
its all good
i have nothing better to do
none of ur own calc hw?
im on my last problem and I don't understand it at all 💀
what calc are you taking
same
what grade are you in
👍
ur ahead of the game
you would take the integral
yeah lol im a junior in highschool 💀
so the integral would cancel out the d/dx
omg wow ur going to harvard
no chance
anyways finish your problem
take the integral of the equation
by hand without a calculator
where do i put the y = 4?
hooray
hol on this is kinda long
gimme a sec
the thing in the box should be the final answer
make sure you understand the process
you got it?
@tawny nest
you take the integrals
using power rule
and other rules which you should've learned
😭
yeah np
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How would I solve this question?
Have you tried simplifying the left hand side?
Yeah, this is what I got up to
But I feel like I've reached a dead end because idk what to do from here
Like, if I try to get rid of the Ln on the right, it'll make the left have everything raised to the e which is just as bad to deal with
The way you combined those logarithms seems wrong
lna - ln(2a) should result in ln(a/(2a)) which is ln(1/2)
Looks like you forgot about the negative sign in front of ln(2a)
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So I have a hyperbola y=4/x and point A that is NOT located in the hyperbola. I need to find the tangent of the hyperbola that passes trough point A.
im so stuck i get how it is possible but how to find it on paper in writing i dont
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Hmm
Let's say we call the point on the parabola $P = (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, \frac{4}{x_0})$ and the other point $A = (x_1, y_1)$.
Azyrashacorki
Now we want the slope of the line going between those two points to be exactly the slope of the tangent at $x_0$.
Azyrashacorki
We know how to compute the slope of a line between two points, and we also know how to compute the slope of the tangent at $x_0$ using the derivative.
Azyrashacorki
Try and set those equal to find the $x_0$ you need for the right slope, then it's a matter of solving for the right constant b in $y= mx+b$.
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That's what the teacher is doing. Notice on the left bit, they set $y-y_0 = k(x-x_0)$.
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That's really the equation for the slope $k$ between (x,y) and $(x_0, y_0)$.
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And then they set $k = \frac{-4}{x^2}$, which is the derivative of $\frac{4}{x}$
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The rest is just algebraic manipulation to solve for x, they're changing the variable to u to avoid confusion
Ye i dont get why it is why she replaced the y and x in the line equation not x0 and y0
It just depends which point you call what
I decided to put indices 0 on the parabola
But their indices 0 are for the point A
It doesn't really matter.
i will just go put the math book under my pillow see if it helps me in my exams
thanks for trying
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If a limit is equal to 2 can I do limit - 2 is equal to 0?
,, \lim_{x\to a}\m fx = 2 \Implies \lim_{x\to -2}\m fx = 0
is this what you are asking?
That's not what they meant
well im trying to verify because i dont understand myself lol
$\lim_{x\to a}f(x) = 2 \implies \lim_{x\to a}f(x) - 2 = 0$
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ok i see
@torn jolt This is true, does that answer your question?
i mean i don't see why not at face-value. You are still maintaining the equality
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how do i do this
,rotate
what's the question?
,rotate
the have turning points for each line
I don't know how to find it
and I don't know in what instance would I need this because generally I wouldn't think to find it
for a question like this
negative rizz 😭
wdym how to do this?
think of what would happen to various points
if u cant
just put them into the function and take some points as guides
there's no algorithm here
w/o differentiation?
what's that mean
calculus
I'm not sure
yes
or just practicing on ur own?
homework
maybe ur teach made a mistake?
or maybe ur supposeed to use graphing software
w/o calc is too diff for me to even try sorry mate
no she is just a bad teacher
she teaches only easy stuff
and she wants us to suddenly know the hard stuff
well keep checking khan acad on the side if thats true
else it will be too late
cya
okay
Yes
Thanks
What kind of things you learned for functions?
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how to graph every function
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is b+a-c in the right spot? or should it be from the tail of a to the tip of -c
yea it should be from the tail of a to the tip of -c
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I received a task from a book, to show how we get the actual solution of a linear non homogeneous difference equation. I'm stuck at 2.7.19 conditions and 2.7 final solution if we choose Y(0) = 1 and Y(1) = 2. Thanks for help ❤️
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alright so what is another way of saying slope
well not exactly
slope is the change in y over the change in x yes
yet we want the instantaneous slope here
which would be dy/dx or the first derivative
yes
so do you know how to take the derivative of that equation?
yeah i think so give me a sec
wait so can i transform it all on one side and then just do x and y prime seperatly?
btw i though so
like move all the x and y terms?
you can
yeah that’d help
but be honest pls does it make any sens
ah okok
let me reduce it first
btw i send so you dont feel like you are waisting your time with me
so i just prime for example only Y?
well you’re differentiating with respect to x
and since y is a function of x
we have to remember to multiply it by the chain rule
so for example if we take y^2 and differentiate it with respect to x we would get 2y * y’
i’m still not sure if that expansion is right tho
i got something different
yeah nvm i honestly forgot to multiply 2 things
alright
expanding it here honestly kinda makes it worse too
since there are product rules you have to use here
but it does reduce the chance of making a mistake
so just everyhting on the 1 site?
all good
yep
sorry for wasting your time. my friend is willing to explaing it to me with talking and all. thank you very much
you have a patience of an angel
it’s okay
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i got 7pi/6
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So lost on these
you could do both of these geometrically
Well what is throwing me off is the a's for the range
try drawing a picture
Can I just plug in any point?
I wouldn't know what the shift is though
what shift
yeah drawing it helps
take -|x| and shift it upward by a (assuming a > 0)
if it helps, for the moment just give a some value like 5
to get the idea how it works
later generalize to arbitrary a
starting from this, you could look at the positive side, so the function becomes a-x. and then you can graph it. the shape will be a known one.
yea
But how would I get the area of that
and you know how to find the area of a triangle probably?
