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eager obsidian
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Well, consider two numbers with a common divisor of 2024

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they would have 2 as a common divisor too then

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so 2024 cant be "minimum"

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tardy elk
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im being dumb asking chem but can anyone answer this ?

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@full forum

nimble crane
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<@&268886789983436800>

tardy elk
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<@&268886789983436800>

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<@&286206848099549185>

limpid junco
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I would suggest maybe try asking in #old-network chemistry server

tardy elk
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sure thanks

nimble crane
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yeah this is a full on chemistry problem, and i havent done IUPAC naming in a year lol

tardy elk
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lmao i mean im being dumb asking chem in maths server

azure eagle
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Won't it just be pentan-2-on and 2,2-dimethylopropan

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fluid prawn
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Is this measuring the length or width?

brave crater
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width, if its the shorter one

fluid prawn
brave crater
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well length denotes how long it is, height denotes how tall it is, breadth denotes how broad it is

fluid prawn
brave crater
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look, it depends how you place the object. say you have placed the book (or whatever it is) like you have in the image you shared. then your breadth is what you asked, length is the longer one and height is basically the thickness of the book (here)

fluid prawn
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I thought thickness was width

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Well thickness is like 1 cm??

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deep mauve
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And maybe how the object stands is important

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But i don't think it makes any mathematical sense

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They are just any of the 3 dimensions

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But it is natural that they have names such as height and thickness to make it easier to understand

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vestal night
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again, can someone show me how to find the solutions in this interval?

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vestal night
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again, can someone show me how to find the solutions in this interval?

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hidden terrace
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can someone calculate this for me? its just a definite integral but i cant find anything that can do it pls help

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hidden terrace
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i just need to know the answer to that integral

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its a surface area of a solid of revolution formula

hidden terrace
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if u cant help just say so lol

wise wyvern
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I don't think many people would want to help you without knowing the context.

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Or with that attitude of yours.

hidden terrace
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i didnt mean to sound rude

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i just didnt want him to waste time on me which he could help others with

viral jasper
# hidden terrace if u cant help just say so lol

I'm trying to help by saying that what you are asking for sounds ridiculous and without context I doubt anyone is willing to help. I predict solving that integral is a waste of time unless we understand how you got to it in the first place

viral jasper
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hidden terrace
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I tried using calculators online and my gdc but i cant get either to work

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I was hoping someone knew a software i didnt

minor crater
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i mean you can use wolfram alpha

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just good luck trying to retype that correctly

viral jasper
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It might exceed computation time tho

minor crater
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or desmos

hidden terrace
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desmos didnt work ill try wolfram

minor crater
hidden terrace
minor crater
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i don't think they want a precise result lol

nova sigil
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Use python + mpmath + trapezium rule

viral jasper
hidden terrace
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alright thanks ill try those and sorry if i came of as rude

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one last question

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can wolfram be wrong?

nova sigil
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Of course

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Numerical procedures break down all the time

minor crater
hidden terrace
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well im gonna look at the value and see if it sounds plausable

minor crater
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oh wait

hidden terrace
nova sigil
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I research numerical methods for solving non linear ODEs and answers blow up all the time. I doubt a simple integral would cause Wolfram to break tho

hidden terrace
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that would make things simpler but for the sake of my report thing i have to show every step

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Anyway i think that would be all

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thanks

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summer carbon
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how can you find the center of mass of a 1d line?

summer carbon
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if you have a density function

summer echo
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You take the weighted average of all positions, this is an integral. Do you have a specific question?

wise wyvern
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(also note, the dimension doesn't match)

summer echo
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That's the average density, not the center of mass

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*multiplied by the length

summer carbon
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should it be to the first power?

summer echo
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You would want $$\int_0^L \rho(x)\cdot x \dd x$$

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wise wyvern
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no

summer carbon
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I tried that

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it's incorrect

wise wyvern
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$\f{\int_0^L \rho(x)\cdot x \dd x}{\int_0^L \rho(x) \dd x}$

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There.

summer echo
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Oh, yes you're right

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divide by the mass

wise wyvern
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Of course.

glossy valveBOT
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! What the hell am I doing here?

wise wyvern
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It's $\f{\int \dd m x}{\int \dd m}$ in general

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! What the hell am I doing here?

summer carbon
wise wyvern
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Centre of mass is meant to be a point about which the moment of mass is zero.
If it's a point, it cannot really be something like mass * x. (it needs to be just x)

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desert cypress
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how do i start 14

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desert cypress
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like ik c will be zero

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bec f(0)

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but a and b

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i duno how to figure out

versed wagon
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yo

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does anyone know why its like that

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the primitive

desert cypress
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bruuh go to ur own help slot thing

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😭

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# desert cypress

As for here, you're aware that polynomials/quadratics are continuous, right?

devout valley
devout valley
# desert cypress yes

Anyways, can you use the fact $\lim_{x\to 1} f(x) = 5$ and $\lim_{x\to -2} f(x) = 8$ to write an equation?

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@devout valley

desert cypress
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how

devout valley
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(do you know what continuity implies about those limits?)

desert cypress
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no

devout valley
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Hmmm, what do you know about continuity? Do you know how it's defined?

desert cypress
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didnt take it yet

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toms lesson

devout valley
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I see, anyways, a tl;dr is that a function is continuous at a point, say $a$, if $\lim_{x\to a} f(x) = f(a)$ (that is the limit exists, and is equal to the function value at that point)

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@devout valley

devout valley
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Having been given that, can you then maybe rewrite the fact that $\lim_{x\to 1} f(x) = 5$ and $\lim_{x\to -2} f(x) = 8$, knowing that $f$ is continuous?

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@devout valley

desert cypress
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help

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ngl

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i dont get this

devout valley
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RooThink continuity is basically saying "get rid of the limit sign, and you can then replace x in the function with the numbers you're going to"

desert cypress
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yea

devout valley
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Do you know how to take limits?

desert cypress
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sub x

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for z

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x

devout valley
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Welllll, I'll take that...

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Can you do that with $\lim_{x\to 1} ax^2 + bx$ for me? You concluded correctly that $c=0$

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@devout valley

desert cypress
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a(1)^2+b(1)=5

devout valley
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Can you do similar for the limit $\lim_{x\to -2} ax^2 + bx$, and simplify what you get?

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@devout valley

desert cypress
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a+b=5

devout valley
desert cypress
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a(2)^2+b(2)=8

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oops

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4a-2b=8

devout valley
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Perfect OathLove

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You have a + b = 5 and 4a - 2b = 8, can you solve those?

desert cypress
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wait its -2

devout valley
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Yea fixed sadCatThumbsUp

devout valley
desert cypress
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yes

devout valley
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Yes as in you're happy to solve those for a and b?

desert cypress
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wait

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for the second one

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u just divide

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?

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can i leave it as is

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or

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what

devout valley
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You can divide by 2, if you find
a + b = 5
2a - b = 4
easier to solve

desert cypress
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okay

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a=3

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b=2

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c=0

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elimination

devout valley
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There you go, looking good catThumbsUp

desert cypress
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yayay tysmmm

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ur so smart

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gimmie ur brains

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🧠

devout valley
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Heheh, if only that were possible LoveYou

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tyy

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rare plover
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Help

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Can someone check my work

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Did I interrupt this question right

stiff musk
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looks fine

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vapid mango
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Need help with how to approach this. Tried integration by parts but got way too messy fast.

fossil stump
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What if you try a substitution?

vapid mango
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Thanks, did u-sub and it worked out nicely

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Just small question

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When taking the limit

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-ln|b+3| goes to negative infinity

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And ln|b+2| goes to positive

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And they cancel right

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To give an answer of ln(2)

pearl trout
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You can't take the limits separately

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but you can simplify -ln(b+3)+ln(b+2)

river wave
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Oh

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But they cancel out right

pearl trout
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The limit of -ln(b+3)+ln(b+2) as b approaches infinity is not zero if that's what you're asking

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wait nevermind it is zero

river wave
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Yeah

pearl trout
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but you should carefully justify why that is

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using the continuity of the natural logarithm

rapid rain
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It is 0, but to prove it you cant be like "inf - inf"

river wave
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What is the answe then

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After taking the limit

rapid rain
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Use log properties

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Before taking the lim

river wave
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Ln(ab

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Right product

rapid rain
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you have smthg of the form ln(x) - ln(y)

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So almost product

river wave
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Oh

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Quotient

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If you rearrange

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Yeah

rapid rain
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Ye so -ln(b+3)+ln(b+2) =

river wave
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Ln(b+2/b+3)

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Bottom goes to infinity faster

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Right

rapid rain
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No

river wave
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Oh

rapid rain
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Think about what the thing inside the log should be so that ln(that) = 0

river wave
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-2

rapid rain
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Uh

river wave
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Wait

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Nvm

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Uh

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Has to be ln(1)

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Wait

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Infinity over infinity

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Ln(1) = 0

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Is that correct

rapid rain
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Again, inf/inf is not satisfying

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b²/b is infinity/infinity and yet it goes to infinity

river wave
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Ok

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Uh

rapid rain
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We need a better justification for why b+2/b+3 goes to 1

river wave
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Idk

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Not sure

rapid rain
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Can you try to get rid of the b in the numerator?

river wave
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Lhoptial

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?

rapid rain
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(Ie doing division of b+2 by b+3)

river wave
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Oh

rapid rain
river wave
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Is that polynomial long division

rapid rain
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b+2 = C(b+3) + D

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Should be quite easy...

river wave
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1-(1/b+3)

rapid rain
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Exactly

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Now it should be straightforward

river wave
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So it’s ln(1)+ln(2)

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Once limit taken

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So ln(2)

rapid rain
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ln2 - ln1 but yes

river wave
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Thanks

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i put this as my answer and it was marked wrong

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polar valve
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real numbers? pi workers?

void portal
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huh

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these are all the options for the thing at the end

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and for all the answers under it u can choose makes sense or doesnt make sense

polar valve
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i would choose positive integers for the last point.

void portal
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is that all i need to change

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i cant get it wrong anymore

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or i have to do 2 questions instead of just one

polar valve
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f(5.5) does not make sense for me. or do you know 5.5 fulltime workers?

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but you decide what to change/not to change.

void portal
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well i mean it could be 5 workers and one worker only does half the job

polar valve
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then he is not full time.

void portal
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so would that not make the thing be does NOT make sense

polar valve
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and you cant add or taken off someone.

void portal
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right so this would be my final answer

polar valve
void portal
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yeah i was just trying to make 100% sure

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it was correct

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thank you bro

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i still have 2 questions that i might need help on can i lyk

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ok im pretty sure this is right but im not sure if i made a mistake.

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@polar valve

polar valve
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you can buy -5 gallons of paint? you can buy pi gallons of paint?

void portal
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wdym

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theres no -5

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and where is there pi

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ohh are u refering to because i put all real numbers

polar valve
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youre last answer ist "all real numbers". -5 is a real number. pi is a real number. so can you buy -5 gallons paint? can you buy pi gallons of paint?

void portal
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yeah that makes sense

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so what should it be? non negitive real numbers?

polar valve
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pi is non negative

void portal
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hm

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positve integers?

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i honestly dont know

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i was absent the whole unit when we learned this so ive just been using common snese

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sense*

polar valve
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i dont know what you can buy in your country. can you buy one half gallon? maybe. then integer would be wrong., but i am pretty sure, you cant buy pi gallons. no one would be able to measure exact pi.

void portal
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huh

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Which one of these would be correct

polar valve
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in "my world" none of them. i would choose maybe positive integers or - if you can buy a half gallon - non negative real numbers. but it doesnt feel right for me.

void portal
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it was non negitve real numbers

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i think ur just over compliacting it, Its alegbra 1, we havent done anything with pie yet

polar valve
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then try to buy sqrt(2) gallons. but anyway.

void portal
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ok so last one, Just answered this confidently but i got it wrong, So i only have one try left

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@polar valve

polar valve
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how do you get f(-20)=-1.6? and again sqrt(2) stairs?

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but i am sure, i am overcomplicating.

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you should ask someone else.

void portal
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is that sarcaism or r u fr?

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i did 1/100(5(-20)+3(-20)

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and got -1.6

polar valve
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its (5|-20|+3(-20))/100 which gives 0,4 for me.

void portal
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oh okay i must have done that wrong.

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if its not too much trouble could you double check the other ones too?

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thanks for the help btw fr

polar valve
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the other two values look ok for me.

void portal
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ok so everything here is good?

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@polar valve

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??

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<@&286206848099549185>

void portal
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@torn jolt yo i saw u helpin someone else u think u can help me on one problem rq

void portal
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okay so i was asking this other dude and he helped me but im not sure if this is still right

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cause if i miss this i have to do 2 questions instead of one

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u can put this for the last answer

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and then for the other 3 u just put makes sense or does NOT make sense

torn jolt
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oh wait

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for 42.5

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it doesn't make sense

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@void portal

void portal
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ok

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how tho

torn jolt
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because that would mean stopping mid air

torn jolt
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void portal
torn jolt
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but you can't take like one half of a step

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it's either you take a step, or you don't

void portal
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ohh

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okay

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so this is right?

torn jolt
void portal
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dang

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it was incorrect

torn jolt
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really?

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that's weird

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what part was wrong?

void portal
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oohhh

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crap it was

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but

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look i forgot to put a context on the second answer

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cause it reset everything and i re put in everything

torn jolt
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okay

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because i was confused about what i did wrong because everything should be right

void portal
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gotta do 2 questions now 😭

torn jolt
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rip 😭

void portal
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alr so i think i got all three answers right but im not sure for the last thing

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@torn jolt

torn jolt
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it should have all real numbers as its domain

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the only restriction it has is on the range

void portal
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wdym

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like this

torn jolt
void portal
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no choices for the 2 things after the first

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just type in the boxes

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but for the first its still the same

torn jolt
void portal
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thanks it was correct

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one more

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i dont think i did this one right

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@torn jolt

torn jolt
void portal
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what should the last one be?

torn jolt
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you can't sell part of a t-shirt

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so it can't be all real numbers

void portal
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ok

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so what should it be

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@torn jolt

torn jolt
void portal
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no

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bro can u just tell me the answer i gotta wake up super early tmrw and im tryna get some sleep 😭

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@torn jolt

torn jolt
void portal
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torn jolt
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actually

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it's either positive integers or integers in a≤x≤b

void portal
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yeah idk

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which one would it be?

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@torn jolt

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void portal
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2

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already used one

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so if i get the next one wrong i gotta do 2 again

torn jolt
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technically it's positive integers, but i feel like it's integers in a≤x≤b

void portal
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ok

torn jolt
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because there are some amount of t-shirts that wouldn't produce a profit

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but then it wouldn't make sense for them to sell like 109,983 shirts

void portal
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alr

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i dont even understand what ur talkin about imma be honest

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which ever one u think is right i will put

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u figure it out?? @torn jolt

torn jolt
void portal
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ur good

lean venture
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can anyone explain to me what’s wrong.

void portal
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make ur own thing

lean venture
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mb idk how to do that can i just dm u rq

void portal
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nah i need help with my own stuff

turbid jacinth
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@void portal Notice that whatever you choose for "does NOT make sense in this context" should be outside the domain

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you put that f(2) does not make sense, so that would imply that 2 is not in the domain

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2 is in all of the domains except either the real numbers or integers a<x<b

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Can anyone solve this? The issue is that i dont know how to approach the summation

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But the one on the right doesn't have an i in it, are you sure that's right?

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so when n = 4 on the left for example, you do the 1st summation and on the next one you would go from i=1-->4

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What is the context of this expression?

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Addition is commutative, does it matter?

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Anyways, the left thing is just 3(3+4+5+6+7+8) and the right thing is -10(n+n+n+..... N times)
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If you flip 8 fair coins, what is the probability that you will get: A) Exactly 5 heads?

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What about if I wanted at least 3 heads? What would I do in that case, find the probability of exactly 3, then 4, then 5, then 6, etc. That seems too lengthy?

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1 minus the probability of 0, then 1, then 2

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Oh thats smart actually

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complementary counting is often useful in combinatorial exercises

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I took an approach with this

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answer $91.20

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let 100% = x
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so just know that when you divide any number by 100, the result is 1% of your original and thats how i set up my equation

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Calculus 2:
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why is this false

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chain rule in the derivative.

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but isnt 1/(a variable) = to ln(that variable)

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what if f(x) = x^2 + 2? Just as a practical example

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f(x) is not a variable, it's a function

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so it must be x in the denominator

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for that to make sense, yes.

You may not realize this but the chain rule is always being applied.
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Because it is an isosceles triangle, the right-angled segment splits the base in half.

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y=60?

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Correct.

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position or distance is the integral of velocity

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you know, 1- the initial velocity, 2- the acceleration, 3- the time

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so like the little squiggle with 3 and 7 as a bound and then -9.8t + 16 dt?

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and evaluate the intergral?

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yes pretty much yeah

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you dont have to integrate

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i think

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btw

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when i did that i got it wrong

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I evaluate the intergral or I find the derivative or antiderivative?

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wait nvm i got it

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can you help me with this one?

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is it the antiderivative of the equation?

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the answer should be 260 when you integrate

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wait

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i lied

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-132*

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yes i got -132

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idk what i did

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wrong

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first

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is -132 right?

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yes yes

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ok pefect

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mb i didn't read the message

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nono youre all good 🙂

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so it's the same thing kinda for this equation

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you'd take the integral because distance is the integral of velocity

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i got the first answer through evaluation

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so the intergral of 512/3?

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i mean i would do the integral from -3 to -1 of the velocity equation

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so like

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t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t

pulsar token
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yes the integral of that

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from -1 to 3

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actually what you might need to do is 0 to 3

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and -1 to 0

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wait what

pulsar token
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because the -1 might make be negative area

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and that wouldn't be the "total" distance

tawny nest
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do I add those or smth

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yes you would

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0 to 3 is 585/4

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293/12

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wait i might be wrong ab this

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i think actually

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what you would do

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is t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t = 0

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and you would get t = 0, 1, and -30

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so you would do the (integral from -1 to 0 ) + (integral from 0 to 1) + (integral from 1 to 3)

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and then you woudl get the right answer

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and I'd just use my calculator to do all that

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what do i even put in my calculator sorry im lost hahaha

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its all good

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i'll write it out on a notecard and send

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tysm

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and v(t) = t^3 + 29t^2 - 30t

tawny nest
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tysm

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OHHHH

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okay

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yes

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let me add it

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i got 512/3

pulsar token
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is that right 😭

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man oh man

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its over

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ahhhhwejfmaeiflkjef

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idk then srry

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its okkk dw

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i rlly thought that was the answer

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tysm tho

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is it like

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the antiderivative

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idk

pulsar token
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actually try to do what the hint says

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integral from -1 to 3 of absolute value of v(t)

tawny nest
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im ngl idk what that means

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i thought i did that

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We are so up

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Can I ask one more question and I will leave it alone.

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you dont even need to help me i just dont know what its even asking

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i have nothing better to do

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none of ur own calc hw?

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im on my last problem and I don't understand it at all 💀

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what calc are you taking

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i'm doing Calc BC or Calc 2

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depends on what you call it

tawny nest
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same

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what grade are you in

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college

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college grade

pulsar token
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👍

tawny nest
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ur ahead of the game

pulsar token
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so the integral would cancel out the d/dx

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omg wow ur going to harvard

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no chance

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anyways finish your problem

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take the integral of the equation

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by hand without a calculator

tawny nest
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aw man

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howo

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are there anu bounds?

pulsar token
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using power rule for integration

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no bounds

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just of the equation

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where do i put the y = 4?

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dw ab that for now

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ykw ill write it out rq

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hooray

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hol on this is kinda long

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gimme a sec

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the thing in the box should be the final answer

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make sure you understand the process

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you got it?

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@tawny nest

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Uhh

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wait

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sorry

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How did u go from step 2 to 3

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you take the integrals

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using power rule

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and other rules which you should've learned

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😭

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LOL

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its okay

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ill figure it out

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thank you so so so much though!!

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here

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oh

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yes

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im mathed out

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then you just combine

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is that it

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or anything else

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that is it

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How would I solve this question?

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Have you tried simplifying the left hand side?

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Yeah, this is what I got up to

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The way you combined those logarithms seems wrong

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lna - ln(2a) should result in ln(a/(2a)) which is ln(1/2)

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I see now

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So I have a hyperbola y=4/x and point A that is NOT located in the hyperbola. I need to find the tangent of the hyperbola that passes trough point A.
im so stuck i get how it is possible but how to find it on paper in writing i dont

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Hmm

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Let's say we call the point on the parabola $P = (x_0, y_0) = (x_0, \frac{4}{x_0})$ and the other point $A = (x_1, y_1)$.

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Azyrashacorki

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Now we want the slope of the line going between those two points to be exactly the slope of the tangent at $x_0$.

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Azyrashacorki

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We know how to compute the slope of a line between two points, and we also know how to compute the slope of the tangent at $x_0$ using the derivative.

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Azyrashacorki

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Try and set those equal to find the $x_0$ you need for the right slope, then it's a matter of solving for the right constant b in $y= mx+b$.

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Azyrashacorki

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this is how the teacher solved it

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i still dont get it

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That's what the teacher is doing. Notice on the left bit, they set $y-y_0 = k(x-x_0)$.

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Azyrashacorki

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That's really the equation for the slope $k$ between (x,y) and $(x_0, y_0)$.

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Azyrashacorki

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And then they set $k = \frac{-4}{x^2}$, which is the derivative of $\frac{4}{x}$

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Azyrashacorki

narrow ermine
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The rest is just algebraic manipulation to solve for x, they're changing the variable to u to avoid confusion

prime locust
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Ye i dont get why it is why she replaced the y and x in the line equation not x0 and y0

narrow ermine
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It just depends which point you call what

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I decided to put indices 0 on the parabola

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But their indices 0 are for the point A

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It doesn't really matter.

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i will just go put the math book under my pillow see if it helps me in my exams

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thanks for trying

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Hahaha

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If a limit is equal to 2 can I do limit - 2 is equal to 0?

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,, \lim_{x\to a}\m fx = 2 \Implies \lim_{x\to -2}\m fx = 0

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That's not what they meant

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well im trying to verify because i dont understand myself lol

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$\lim_{x\to a}f(x) = 2 \implies \lim_{x\to a}f(x) - 2 = 0$

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孤独な豆

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ok i see

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i mean i don't see why not at face-value. You are still maintaining the equality

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how do i do this

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,rotate

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what's the question?

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I have the answer sheet and

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as you can see

thick hedge
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,rotate

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the have turning points for each line

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I don't know how to find it

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negative rizz 😭

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wdym how to do this?

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think of what would happen to various points

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just put them into the function and take some points as guides

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there's no algorithm here

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I trying to find the tp

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<@&286206848099549185>

silver pasture
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w/o differentiation?

snow niche
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what's that mean

silver pasture
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calculus

snow niche
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I'm not sure

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u want a solution without using calculus?

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have u studied calculus?

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no

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only just started functions

silver pasture
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sad luck

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have u been told to do this?

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yes

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or just practicing on ur own?

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homework

silver pasture
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maybe ur teach made a mistake?

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or maybe ur supposeed to use graphing software

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w/o calc is too diff for me to even try sorry mate

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no she is just a bad teacher

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she teaches only easy stuff

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and she wants us to suddenly know the hard stuff

silver pasture
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well keep checking khan acad on the side if thats true

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else it will be too late

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cya

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okay

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is b+a-c in the right spot? or should it be from the tail of a to the tip of -c

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I received a task from a book, to show how we get the actual solution of a linear non homogeneous difference equation. I'm stuck at 2.7.19 conditions and 2.7 final solution if we choose Y(0) = 1 and Y(1) = 2. Thanks for help ❤️

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alright so what is another way of saying slope

willow trail
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function?

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i think

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well not exactly

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slope is the change in y over the change in x yes

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yet we want the instantaneous slope here

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which would be dy/dx or the first derivative

willow trail
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yes

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so do you know how to take the derivative of that equation?

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yeah i think so give me a sec

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wait so can i transform it all on one side and then just do x and y prime seperatly?

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like move all the x and y terms?

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yeah

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or at least remove them from brackets

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you can

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ah okok

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let me reduce it first

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btw i send so you dont feel like you are waisting your time with me

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so i just prime for example only Y?

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well you’re differentiating with respect to x

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and since y is a function of x

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we have to remember to multiply it by the chain rule

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so for example if we take y^2 and differentiate it with respect to x we would get 2y * y’

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i got something different

willow trail
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yeah nvm i honestly forgot to multiply 2 things

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alright

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expanding it here honestly kinda makes it worse too

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since there are product rules you have to use here

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but it does reduce the chance of making a mistake

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so just everyhting on the 1 site?

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yeah just expand out the brackets

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no need to move the terms around

willow trail
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ah ok i understand

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you’re missing a y^4

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on the left

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yes

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oopsie

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all good

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this is my final product so far

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and now i derrerative

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yep

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sorry for wasting your time. my friend is willing to explaing it to me with talking and all. thank you very much

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you have a patience of an angel

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you’re welcome

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i got 7pi/6

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So lost on these

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you could do both of these geometrically

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try drawing a picture

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Can I just plug in any point?

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what shift

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yeah drawing it helps

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a-

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a

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take -|x| and shift it upward by a (assuming a > 0)

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if it helps, for the moment just give a some value like 5

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to get the idea how it works

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later generalize to arbitrary a

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starting from this, you could look at the positive side, so the function becomes a-x. and then you can graph it. the shape will be a known one.

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Oh ok

stiff musk
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yea

torn jolt
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But how would I get the area of that

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and you know how to find the area of a triangle probably?